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Hello,
I'm new here and recently bought a live with walkman, my first android phone.
However, I'm running short on space and so I'm looking into rooting.
But before attempting anything I would like to ask a few questions a bout it.
I'm planning on using DooMLoRD's Easy Rooting Toolkit, which seems pretty straightforward. The thing is that I'm not sure
what to do before or after attempting this, the closest 'guide' I found for this was the following thread:
http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-all-things-root/129648-quick-intro-rooting-those-new-rooting.html
It explains you how to back up your files so you don't lose stuff, but it's quite old, so is it still applicable?
Second question, the live is getting an ice cream sandwich update late march, can I still upgrade to it using doomlord's method,
and/or if necessary using his unroot kit?
I'm quite excited about android 4.0, but is the upgrade possible or even necessary with (perhaps better) roms out there?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1389501&highlight=ice+cream+sandwich
This topic goes over this, but I want to be sure...
On the same note, if I just unlock my phone without using any custom Roms, would I still be able to use go launcher?
Thirdly, some of the articles I read listed tethering and screenshot taking as benefits of rooting, but my walkman is already
capable of doing these, or at least should be. Is it still worthwhile to root for this?
And finally, the main reason why I want to root my phone. I'm using apps2sd at the moment to get as much space in my
internal memory as I can right now, but it is only capable
of transferring some applications partially. As I've read it, rooting allows you to transfer most applications to your sd, but
does it also allow for a bigger part to be transferred? Thus allowing you to install all the applications you want instead of
having a hard time deciding what app is essential and what not.
I also want to delete some of the bloatware that came with the device...
I guess that's all for now, I'm really anxious at the moment to see what my device is capable of.
Sorry if there are some spelling mistakes, English isn't my main laguage and I loved the noob register video
Oh, and thank you for reading through all of this if you've made it this far
ok first of all rooting will give your live a super power to do anything inside system so rooting is awesome,
You can do more things that unrooted phone can't do like
1] Can use titanium back up to backup apps and its configured settings
2] Can modify system files for looks and performance
3] and can you CPU boosters to overclock underclock CPU can use sd-ext for external SD as phone memory and much more...................
Second you can root unroot your live with this,so don't worry
Root Unroot Toolkit
Third i have unlocked boot loader of my XMP (SK17i) but the above method of rooting doesn't require unlocked boot loaders.But its up to you whether to unloack bootloader or not as it will void your warranty....
About ICS so yes you can get it anyhow after rooting unlocking bootloader and using other roms don't worry...
You can use Link2sd for getting extra phone storage space after rooting
for more information search the threads on xda
So after doing a lot more reading after the last time I posted here 2 days ago, I made myself this checklist of things I have/want to do.
But before I do this, I have these questions:
- Is this the right way to do it. I may have forgotten something or may have used an outdated guide…
- If I succeed in doing this, but am, for whatever reason, unhappy about the result, will the unroot give me back my untouched phone, or would it still be detectable that I tempered with it?
- I’m having a hard time deciding what to do whit the partitioning of the sd card. Mainly because I haven’t found a guide (yet) that explains what everything is used for. As I understand it, you delete everything on it, create a new primary FAT32 partition (for a 16gb card), which you use as you would your original sd card. But I don’t yet understand whether to use ext2 or swap system or both, as I do not yet understand what they are meant to do. Is the ext2 used to store the applications and act as a second internal storage and the swap system as extra memory for the phone? I’m still reading but haven’t found an answer yet :/
EDIT: just found this:
http://www.diy-computer-repairs.com/partition-sd-card-android-installation/
- Forgot one thing. The article on partitioning from xda mentions you have to remove your sd card from your phone before partitioning, but can this be done as well by leaving it in your phone?
How to backup, root and install custom roms for your live with walkman?
0. Creating SD partition
- Backup everything on the sd card
- Download and install “MiniTool Partition Wizard Home Edition” on your computer
- Delete the old partitions on your sd card
- Create a new FAT/FAT32 primary partition that will be the “new sd card”
- Create ext2 or swap file system with the unallocated space
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/SD_card_partitioning
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVK-tJe8pXE&feature=related
1. Pre-instal back-up
- Backup contacts to gmail cloud
- Use program like mybackup pro to backup other data
http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-all-things-root/129648-quick-intro-rooting-those-new-rooting.html
2. Actual rooting
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...oting-your-android-phone/#install-custom-roms
- Install SDK
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312859
- Use DooMLoRD’s Easy Rooting Toolkit v4 to root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321582
3. Post-Rooting
3.1 Using Stock Rom
http://www.androidpolice.com/topics/features-2/best-apps-for-rooted-users-series/
- Backup using Titaniumbackup
- Uninstall bloatware using Rootexplorer or es file explorer
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1425461&highlight=walkman
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14002417
3.2 Using Custom Rom
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/05/01/custom-roms-for-android-explained-and-why-you-want-them/
- Install Rom Manager
- Create a recovery image using Rom Manager
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...nandroid-backup-and-clockworkmod-rom-manager/
- Make Backup of current Rom using Rom Manager
- Download and install custom Rom to root folder SD (Cyanogen?)
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...d-7-makes-my-android-phone-feel-future-proof/
- Flash custom rom
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...d-phone-with-rom-manager-full-backup-restore/
4. Unrooting
- (If using custom rom, restore backup of stock Rom using Rom manager)
- Use DooMLorD’s Unroot kit to return to original state
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18879974#post18879974
No one?:/
Then I'll just try it out myself hopefully I won't brick my phone
i also have live with walkman which i bought few days back.
i also have some questions
i want to root the device using doomlord.
1. Since on rooting my warranty will void but since i can unroot the device. Will unrooting make it same as packed .
2. also after rooting i can uninstall the SE apps that i dont need can SE service center can detect that i have rooted my phone.
Ok, I've been able to root my device, which didn't take long, and I don't know what I was afraid of. I'm going ahead and I'm going to download titaniumbackup and rootexplorer to backup/freeze and use rom manager to create an image and a complete backup and then I'm off exploring
@abhishekcal: As I understand it, unrooting will, providing everything goes as planned, will give you back your stock phone, but while it's rooted SE might detect this and you may lose your warranty, but then again, I'm not completely sure, so you better wait for an answer from a senior member
thanks for answering my query since SE have released the new update did u tried the update and rooting again.
Please answer these also:
1. DID u do only root or also use any other modifiaction like custom rom and unlocking boot.
2. if after the rooting i delete all the system apps can i get then back using a backup so that it remain undetected that it has been rooted.
Hi
I accidentally did a system update on my razr that was given by verizon. Titanium backup is forcefully closed when I open it. But, superuser does not. It is open-able. I would like to re-root my device. Should I unroot it first and then root it again because apps like superuser are still present and open-able? Or is rooting just fine even if there seems to be some kind of problem with the root apps.
In general, is it fine to reroot though the device is already rooted? (I guess this is the general question.)
Yes, it's fine to re-root - in fact, you can't unroot without first rooting again, because the files you need to remove are now protected like all the other system files.
Use the new motofail exploit.
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Im getting the problem that a lot of people have gotten, that the android market is no longer working (try to start it; You must add an account to the device to continue. Do you want to add one now?), probably due to an auto update. I had rolled back to 1.4.1 to root (which i later learned was unecessary), so the device updated itself a few weeks after my root. I used albert's method on a 4gb microSD.
Do I need to reroot the device? my concern is, will I lose all my apps, and all the settings of those apps? what all is lost / how should I go about fixing this?
anyone else have or know how to fix this issue?
go back to 1.4.0 and use albert's root sdcard method.
Will this cause it to try to update to 1.4.2 again in the future? Or will this fix it because the root was meant for blocking updates on 1.4.0?
I'll lose all my apps correct?
brutalmouse said:
Will this cause it to try to update to 1.4.2 again in the future? Or will this fix it because the root was meant for blocking updates on 1.4.0?
I'll lose all my apps correct?
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It all depends which root method you use to root but what you can do is always once rooted apply the the block separately by using titanium backup (indirect's method) that way you won't get the update, so far that is the most reliable way.
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My bad if this is a dumb question, but where can i find documentation on the indirect method? Instructions files etc.. Ready to try this one
brutalmouse said:
My bad if this is a dumb question, but where can i find documentation on the indirect method? Instructions files etc.. Ready to try this one
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In the development section.
How do i roll back to 1.4.0 with out any back updates and fastboot is not working with the adb fix?
so i got the s3 two nights ago (eep!:highfive
and i want to transfer all my game data (ie, saves) over from my Desire Z.
contacts, sms, photos etc arent a problem.
its just the games! well, not just any games, the kairosoft ones. i dont want too lose all my hard work on those little things!!
anyone able to help?
neither device is rooted
Desire Z is running 2.3.3 (stock)
S3 is running 4.0.4
i tried using a program via pc called "wondershare mobilego for android" but it didnt transfer the saved games. same with "moborobo" (it has the option, but only for rooted devices!)
i also tried transferring via sd card, and that didnt work either D=
i was told mybackup pro would work - fail
i've seen many people suggest titanium backup in my searches - however i have heard that it will only back up game data if the device is rooted
i am happy to root the s3 if needed to install the data (providing i can find a simple guide XD - i like to think i am pretty tech savvy, but this is just something i havent done yet!)
i've searched for hours already and from my understanding, both (?) devices have to be rooted.
however, i have seen (unless i misunderstood) that if i root my Desire Z to do the backup, i will lose my data anyway (before i backup that is).
is this true? or am i understanding this wrong?
p.s sorry if i posted in the wrong forum. wasn't sure which one :/
You have to root.
Root Desire, install TiBackup, backup any apps you need.
Root S3, install TiBackup, tranfer microSD from Desire to S3 (in which the backups are on) and restore through TiBackup.
Simplest way I know of, and you don't lose data from rooting.
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Good Q
i need know the same thing!! but whit a G note and a s3 ;P
gagdude said:
You have to root.
Root Desire, install TiBackup, backup any apps you need.
Root S3, install TiBackup, tranfer microSD from Desire to S3 (in which the backups are on) and restore through TiBackup.
Simplest way I know of, and you don't lose data from rooting.
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according to (sorry cant post links yet)
wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Desire_Z:_Rooting
and
wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Vision:_CyanogenMod
i will lose my data
or am i missing something?
[sorry, new to the whole rooting/flashing etc so trying to figure it all out ]
Titanium backup usually backups your apps to the external sd card. Anything on there is safe from rooting or fully wiping in recovery. Installing custom roms on it will not delete anything on it.
If you want to be extra safe, I would copy the titanium backup folder from your external sd card to your computer, so you have another copy of it in case something happens.
vx117 said:
Titanium backup usually backups your apps to the external sd card. Anything on there is safe from rooting or fully wiping in recovery. Installing custom roms on it will not delete anything on it.
If you want to be extra safe, I would copy the titanium backup folder from your external sd card to your computer, so you have another copy of it in case something happens.
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Thanks for clarifying
However it is my understanding that you need to root your phone in order for Titanium to be able to back up your game saves
So. My question is... does rooting cause you too lose data because that would defeat the purpose for me
No rooting will not cause loss of data.
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All Rooting does is modify a few system files and if you didn't know it was Rooted you'd never notice the difference, and to put it simply everyone who's scared to Root can end up losing years worth of data when they get their new phone so you have to balance the tiny negatives with the huge positives.
NIMBAH said:
No rooting will not cause loss of data.
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Michael_P said:
All Rooting does is modify a few system files and if you didn't know it was Rooted you'd never notice the difference, and to put it simply everyone who's scared to Root can end up losing years worth of data when they get their new phone so you have to balance the tiny negatives with the huge positives.
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ok, so to recap...
(sorry guys, just want to make sure i've got it straight in my head before i do anything!! i'm not ignorant, i swear )
i can root my desire z using this method: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Desire_Z:_Rooting
(can someone confirm if i need to downgrade my firmware? across various tuts i've read they all say something different - or nothing at all! currently running 2.3.3)
install Titanium Backup and backup all my game saves
THEN
root my S3 (still need to google an easy to understand method, but if you know a simple one let me know )
install Titanium and restore my game saves :fingers-crossed:
AND in this process, i won't lose my data?
NOTE: neither device has and ANY modification, both are completely stock at this point in time.
p.s i had someone mention to me that i need to unlock my bootloader to root the device, and unlocking the bootloader will cause data loss. is this true?
Anyone able to confirm above post???
Would really like to get my games transferred if it's possible
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hi
I have a problem with internal memory, as usual with many
so i tried link2sd , and i figured out i must be rooted to mount 2nd ext2 partition using SU
by the way i have sony xperia c for only 2 weeks, this is my 1st android phone i have so i know just a little
so i guessed, i need the su only to mount 2nd partition,
so i wonder is there a way doing this other than rooting?? as i knew it voids warranty
for example using adb shell commands or executing a script doing this ??
as a last resort, i may consider rooting, and that leads me to more questions
is there a way to unroot after rooting, so the warranty is still there?? i knew about rooting apps like root master and another SU apps,
that enables fully unrooting, so maybe could i do it, after mounting 2nd partition n after link2sd recognizes it??
how bad is rooting n loosing warranty?? is there problems with xperia c that needs badly warranty??
thanks in advance
mina.ed.2010 said:
hi
I have a problem with internal memory, as usual with many
so i tried link2sd , and i figured out i must be rooted to mount 2nd ext2 partition using SU
by the way i have sony xperia c for only 2 weeks, this is my 1st android phone i have so i know just a little
so i guessed, i need the su only to mount 2nd partition,
so i wonder is there a way doing this other than rooting?? as i knew it voids warranty
for example using adb shell commands or executing a script doing this ??
as a last resort, i may consider rooting, and that leads me to more questions
is there a way to unroot after rooting, so the warranty is still there?? i knew about rooting apps like root master and another SU apps,
that enables fully unrooting, so maybe could i do it, after mounting 2nd partition n after link2sd recognizes it??
how bad is rooting n loosing warranty?? is there problems with xperia c that needs badly warranty??
thanks in advance
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Definitely not a way to do it without root. Also, you would have to stay rooted to make Links2SD function after rebooting. Scripts and adb commands won't help with out superuser permission as you can't make changes to /system like that without root. Most Xperias can easily be returned to stock / non rooted with the Flash Tool and the correct firmware for your build version - assuming you have access to a PC. I recommend downloading the firmware, drivers, and Flash Tool and watching a video or 2 on YouTube or check out one of the many guides here on XDA about using it to return to stock. Once you are comfortable with that, you can fix almost any software thing you might need making rooting not so scary.
es0tericcha0s said:
Definitely not a way to do it without root. Also, you would have to stay rooted to make Links2SD function after rebooting. Scripts and adb commands won't help with out superuser permission as you can't make changes to /system like that without root. Most Xperias can easily be returned to stock / non rooted with the Flash Tool and the correct firmware for your build version - assuming you have access to a PC. I recommend downloading the firmware, drivers, and Flash Tool and watching a video or 2 on YouTube or check out one of the many guides here on XDA about using it to return to stock. Once you are comfortable with that, you can fix almost any software thing you might need making rooting not so scary.
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here is another method moving apps to sd using adb commands, how efficient is it??
instructables.com/id/How-to-install-apps-onto-your-SD-Card-No-Root/?ALLSTEPS
in this case, do i format the whole sd card as fat32??
i knew link2sd needs the 2nd partition to be EXT2->4 format to move data files, not only apks, so how it comes this method to work using fat32??
also here is another 2 techniques to unroot using es explorer to delete some files in /system, n another method, how reliable is it??
androidtipsz.com/two-simple-methods-to-unroot-any-rooted-android-device
but anyway it doesn't make sense to me to unroot to get back warranty, in other words, suppose a permanent
damage to screen, or whatever happened making it impossible to unroot, then how it comes i could do it??
maybe if i were lucky to get it back
anyway i'm hopeful i won't need warranty, n perhaps i won't need it...it seems to me to unroot is to 95% lose warranty, n maybe i'm lucky 5% to get it back
mina.ed.2010 said:
here is another method moving apps to sd using adb commands, how efficient is it??
instructables.com/id/How-to-install-apps-onto-your-SD-Card-No-Root/?ALLSTEPS
in this case, do i format the whole sd card as fat32??
i knew link2sd needs the 2nd partition to be EXT2->4 format to move data files, not only apks, so how it comes this method to work using fat32??
also here is another 2 techniques to unroot using es explorer to delete some files in /system, n another method, how reliable is it??
androidtipsz.com/two-simple-methods-to-unroot-any-rooted-android-device
but anyway it doesn't make sense to me to unroot to get back warranty, in other words, suppose a permanent
damage to screen, or whatever happened making it impossible to unroot, then how it comes i could do it??
maybe if i were lucky to get it back
anyway i'm hopeful i won't need warranty, n perhaps i won't need it...it seems to me to unroot is to 95% lose warranty, n maybe i'm lucky 5% to get it back
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Not very. It only moves part of the apk and not the app data. Plus some apps just don't work well there such as 3rd party launchers and keyboards. FAT32 is fine for this method because it doesn't move the data.
As far as returning it to normal - it depends on if you have a custom recovery and root or just root only. If you have a custom recovery, you have to get that back to stock as well as do the unroot. Unrooting - which you can just do from inside the root app, but the best way is to just use the factory firmware and the flashtool because it will restore everything - including the recovery. This method will return the phone to stock whether or not the screen is broken as screen input isn't necessary.
es0tericcha0s said:
Not very. It only moves part of the apk and not the app data. Plus some apps just don't work well there such as 3rd party launchers and keyboards. FAT32 is fine for this method because it doesn't move the data.
As far as returning it to normal - it depends on if you have a custom recovery and root or just root only. If you have a custom recovery, you have to get that back to stock as well as do the unroot. Unrooting - which you can just do from inside the root app, but the best way is to just use the factory firmware and the flashtool because it will restore everything - including the recovery. This method will return the phone to stock whether or not the screen is broken as screen input isn't necessary.
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first of all, i really appreciate your guidance, as i was really confused between huge stuff on google...thanks for your help...
so, that adb commands method isn't far different from stock android app2sd..right??
anyway, to take the decision, should i go for rooting?? and what is the best method??
i found apps, that needs no pc or usb, like root master, framaroot, maestro and poot, and usb debugging method like vroot,
one click root, and dozens of other names...all i know is just names..as i told you i'm just a beginner
so what method should i go into??
but first and all, should i go for rooting, i feel i'm still hesitated
as i mentioned, that's my 1st ever android phone for only 2 weeks and i don't wanna take a decision like this in a hurry
so, if the worst scenario happened like software breakdown, would it be to download stock firmware??
and if a hardware damage like a crash or screen damage or whatever, is it guaranteed to download firmware to
unroot it n to get it back to waranty??..i feel i'm still a little confused
thanks again for your help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2764341
Has most of the info you need there.
I'm all about root. But I might be a bit biased being a huge fan of making my phone better and I root/upgrade/customize phones for a living, but there's no way I would put up with the limitations of a non rooted system. But like I said, if you are hestitant, then download the original firmware, read the guides, and watch some videos on how to return an Xperia device back to stock and the problems that might arise from rooting won't be that big of a deal since it takes about 10 minutes to restore the phone if you have everything set up (firmware downloaded and drivers and flash tool installed).