Buy / refund apps from Market? - Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I know this condoned but is it possible for someone to buy an app/game from the Android Market, copy it to memory, get a refund, then reinstall the copy? It seems like developers should have protection to prevent this, but is this why they reduced the refund time from 24 hours to 15 minutes? Seems like 15 minutes is more than enough time to do the steps above.

You wouldn't be able to get any updates that the app would get if said app were to get updates

willsnews said:
You wouldn't be able to get any updates that the app would get if said app were to get updates
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That makes sense. And I guess they dont allow you to buy the app again and get a 2nd refund. If thats the case, I dont see why developers have an issue with the old refund time period.

I thought it was always a nice thing to say in comparison to Apple and their image.... "yeah, Android also lets you try out paid apps a full 24 hours, as opposed to a click and pray the app doesn't suck approach like apple"
I can't do that anymore.. Not really.

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someone told me not to use something, looking for more info...

Any thoughts on an app called app planet? I've heard conflicting stories just trying to get some clarification. Thanks.
App planet is highly questionable on a moral level. It is just like the market app BUT only features hacked paid apps. If you are into "stolen" apps you will enjoy app planet but be wary as some apps may contain harmful code. What you see is not always what you get. Virus and data mining are always a risk.
I hope this answers your question. Proceed with caution!
bking_soda said:
Any thoughts on an app called app planet? I've heard conflicting stories just trying to get some clarification. Thanks.
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Nevermind....
That is helpful... This is my first Android, just trying to learn as much as I can. And... Not destroying anything in the process.
My feelings... if someone can't support a developer and pay pocket change for their app that they are going to use, it's pathetic. If people feel $1-$5 is too much, maybe they shouldn't be spending money each month on a cell phone bill...
You're absolutely right... This was a conversation I had with someone last night who wanted to show off his rooted d2. I told him I was using a rooted TB and he tried to one up with this app. I felt it was a little odd to have all apps available for free and he doesn't read this site. Now I can relay the message.
The Amazon app store on the other hand offers a free app every day
i totally understand that stealing apps from applanet is wrong but i think there are still several good uses. i have used it a couple times to download apps that were no longer available in the market like rom gripper and also blocked apps like wireless tether. i also have used it to try out a paid app for more than 15 mins allowed by the official market. if i liked it, i went on the regular market and bought it! it DOESNT HAVE to be used for piracy only....
g00s3y said:
My feelings... if someone can't support a developer and pay pocket change for their app that they are going to use, it's pathetic. If people feel $1-$5 is too much, maybe they shouldn't be spending money each month on a cell phone bill...
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I agree with you 100%, but anyway if the OP would have read the forum guidelines he would know this is not even allowed to be discussed here, so im sure this thread will be closed very soon!
ddarvish said:
i totally understand that stealing apps from applanet is wrong but i think there are still several good uses. i have used it a couple times to download apps that were no longer available in the market like rom gripper and also blocked apps like wireless tether. i also have used it to try out a paid app for more than 15 mins allowed by the official market. if i liked it, i went on the regular market and bought it! it DOESNT HAVE to be used for piracy only....
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Stop trying to cover crap in gold... its illegal, end of story.
ddarvish said:
i also have used it to try out a paid app for more than 15 mins allowed by the official market.
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When did it change from 24 hours to 15 minutes? I noticed this the other day and think its stupid, 15 minutes isn't long enough to test some apps.
eraursls1984 said:
When did it change from 24 hours to 15 minutes? I noticed this the other day and think its stupid, 15 minutes isn't long enough to test some apps.
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This was to help developers, I will agree, 15 minutes is a bit short. But it is needed because of the amount of people that would buy a paid app, use it for that day, then "return" it. That and i'm sure people were downloading the paid app, ripping the apk, then "returning" the app, but still having the full paid version.
g00s3y said:
This was to help developers, I will agree, 15 minutes is a bit short. But it is needed because of the amount of people that would buy a paid app, use it for that day, then "return" it. That and i'm sure people were downloading the paid app, ripping the apk, then "returning" the app, but still having the full paid version.
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The funny thing is that 15 minutes is enough time to rip the apk but not enough time to even check out an app to see if I like it or not. I support the devs but this is going to hurt devs I think. I no longer try any paid app without finding it on the web instead of the market.
No discussion of Warez.

Root Explorer only $.99 on Amazon Market

Right now Root Explorer is only $ 0.99 on Amazon. Get it while you can!
Sweet!
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housry23 said:
Right now Root Explorer is only $ 0.99 on Amazon. Get it while you can!
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Great deal for some, that's .99 more then what i paid
root explorer vs file expert
I'm currently using File Expert, which is free, has root access, and sysro/sysrw. What, if any, would be the advantages of spending money on Root Explorer? Or is it simply personal preference and old habit?
Greatest deal I seen on the market lately! I choose root explorer because it's simplistic and yet still has a lot of customizations. If you purchase it for the $1 try it for the 15 minutes you got
Edit: so yes it's personal preference, to me.
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If you buy from Amazon, do you still get the google market updates?
jordant2 said:
If you buy from Amazon, do you still get the google market updates?
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No, you get Amazon market updates.
Which are slower updates
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lilecho said:
I'm currently using File Expert, which is free, has root access, and sysro/sysrw. What, if any, would be the advantages of spending money on Root Explorer? Or is it simply personal preference and old habit?
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Here's a good reason:
Root Explorer DOESN'T export your personal information every time you run it.
File Expert....
(yeah, it does.)
Ever wonder how an app as 'popular' as File Expert managed to be free in the first place?
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jordant2 said:
If you buy from Amazon, do you still get the google market updates?
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It doesn't link to the market, so you have to got through amazon every time. This alone, is enough reason for me to shell out the extra $1.
I got swiftkey x for free, but haven't re-installed it because it I didn't back it up, and I don't feel like messing with amazon apps. Just earn the extra dollar at work -it the time spent will pay for itself
Thanks for the heads up, tor new comers about it long time ago , but now I'm no trusting the amazon app store , they rip off developers and i don't think is right
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XDA members don't care, they are so cheap there asses squeak when they walk. If they can't get it for free then they don't want it.
I tried the app mentioned earlier and found it more difficult to use. Root Explorer works and it works good. It has been around a long time and is well respected and is well maintained. I also tried a free app called Total Commander which is supposed to have rw abilities, but I found it confusing and hard to use, so I was like f it, I'm just gonna buy Root Explorer. Checked on the Android Market $2.99, then checked on Amazon Appstore and it was on sale for $.99 so I bought it from them.
Not all apps are updated slower on Amazon. I have several Amazon Appstore apps and some of them update faster than the Market apps.
To the guy that says he won't use the Amazon Appstore because they ripoff devs, what are your sources on this? I would be interested in reading where devs have been ripped off.
I honestly think this was one of the very first apps I bought. Can you believe I paid full price? CRAZY!
housry23 said:
I tried the app mentioned earlier and found it more difficult to use. Root Explorer works and it works good. It has been around a long time and is well respected and is well maintained. I also tried a free app called Total Commander which is supposed to have rw abilities, but I found it confusing and hard to use, so I was like f it, I'm just gonna buy Root Explorer. Checked on the Android Market $2.99, then checked on Amazon Appstore and it was on sale for $.99 so I bought it from them.
Not all apps are updated slower on Amazon. I have several Amazon Appstore apps and some of them update faster than the Market apps.
To the guy that says he won't use the Amazon Appstore because they ripoff devs, what are your sources on this? I would be interested in reading where devs have been ripped off.
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http://shiftyjelly.wordpress.com/2011/08/02/amazon-app-store-rotten-to-the-core/
It sucks for the free app of the day for developers but for the consumers I guess is good, but sometimes you have to think how much work they put into their apps
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Actually, for a good app, the free app of the day deal is really good for the developer. It's advertising. Imagine, you write an app that is marked $3.99 and hardly anyone buys it so you don't really get any reviews. It hits the free app of the day deal and you get about 200 reviews. If they are positive and talk about how great the app is, when it is no longer free, people are more prone to buy it.
So don't feel too bad for devs on that deal. Without it, their app may never be purchased otherwise.
The only part that pisses me off are the idiots that think any good review of an app *they* don't like means its fake, so instead of rating the app what they truly feel they decide it is their moral imperative to "correct the balance" buy giving a decent app 1-star to counter someone 5-star app they think is fake.
ExploreMN said:
Actually, for a good app, the free app of the day deal is really good for the developer. It's advertising. Imagine, you write an app that is marked $3.99 and hardly anyone buys it so you don't really get any reviews. It hits the free app of the day deal and you get about 200 reviews. If they are positive and talk about how great the app is, when it is no longer free, people are more prone to buy it.
So don't feel too bad for devs on that deal. Without it, their app may never be purchased otherwise.
The only part that pisses me off are the idiots that think any good review of an app *they* don't like means its fake, so instead of rating the app what they truly feel they decide it is their moral imperative to "correct the balance" buy giving a decent app 1-star to counter someone 5-star app they think is fake.
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Actually devs get a hefty percentage of the full cost of the app,paid directly from Amazon, when their app is chosen to be the daily free one. It's either 40 or 60 percent, but is usually a HUGE windfall for the developer. Personally, I get the free app every day, even if I have no plans to use them on any device of mine right now. I'm sure I'm not the only one who does that, and most of the time, they're apps I would NEVER have downloaded if they weren't free for me. The developers LOVE the free app system, 'money-in-their-pocket' wise.
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yang704 said:
why pay when you can get it free from 4share.com. Yes, is the paid version for free.
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And this is the reason why we have more ****ty apps in the android market , I like android a lot but my iPhone apps are better develop.and graphics too, and you are sharing a warez website dude
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Why not purchase the app then navigate to system, data, apps and copy the .apk to your sdcard go back to the market uninstall and get your refund...then go back and install the .apk from your card and voila you have the app. Thats what I do with root access!
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See, it's tactics like that that make me want to ***** slap some people. The whole purpose of buying an app is to support the developer and encourage growth. These are not major companies producing these products. They're regular people like you and me with an idea. ****in support them if you like what they're doing.
And their prices are equivalent to a cup of coffee or a beer at the bar. It's not that bad.
As for the .99 for Root Explorer, it's a steal. Go get it! An excellent program for the price of a candy bar.

Will Google fix the malware problem?

I just hope Google puts its foot down on this epidemic...Maybe release a antimalware app or something..or make some strict laws to developers...
A good start is to only download reputable apps and make sure the developer is easily contactable and documented.
Not having or using a credit card helps too.
With Google clearly having the information and power of Big Brother, I'm sure they will take care of it one way or another.
Grant Barker said:
A good start is to only download reputable apps and make sure the developer is easily contactable and documented.
Not having or using a credit card helps too.
With Google clearly having the information and power of Big Brother, I'm sure they will take care of it one way or another.
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+1 to that... I don't download apps unless for one, I see good reviews, and more importantly, that I can easily contact the dev if I run into any unusual activity after using their app.
Google usually removes malware apps and removes the developer from the Android Developer Program.. I doubt people would continuously pay the 25 dollar registration fee over and over just to release malware.. Time will run is course and malware will exit the Market, but I can guarantee you you'll always find malware outside of the Market, especially within those Chinese Markets that offer Market apps "for free/ at a discount".. they're usually infected.
$25 is a minimal fee when you look at the big picture, like how much information can be pulled from a smartphone, and the sheer number of people that use them. If the benefits outweight the cost to the malware devs, im sure they'll keep paying the $25 to keep their feet in the door.
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$25 is a minimal fee when you look at the big picture, like how much information can be pulled from a smartphone, and the sheer number of people that use them. If the benefits outweight the cost to the malware devs, im sure they'll keep paying the $25 to keep their feet in the door.
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Still doubt it. Hopefully they'll soon enough stay out of the Market and target the 3rd party vendors, like Slideme. Not saying they should, but they need to get the hell out of the Market.

Order and chaos on amaze?

Anyway to get it to work on the Htc amaze? Thanks in advance!
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Is it not compatible? Ask the developer.
hasoon2000 said:
Is it not compatible? Ask the developer.
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It should work fine, the amaze just isn't on the list of devices they will allow to download it from the market.. the only way to get it is by illegitimate means(or read the last paragraph).
Contacting the developer is totally pointless, this is the worst company to deal with in any way.. I spent $15 in game and never got what I paid for, months went by, multiple times they contacted me.. but never got the refund no matter what I did. I eventually gave up since I put in more work than it was worth for the $
I would recommend buying it with another compatible device(if you have one), copying the apk to the amaze(I hope I don't get in trouble, it isn't pirating if you paid), and it should work fine. I may have had to edit my build.prop, I can't remember. That is how I was playing it on my nook color(from my vibrant). But don't spend a dime in game unless you just don't want the money. Really, I would say avoid the game altogether, it is cool for a minute, but FAR from a product worth paying monthly for.
Downloaded but not working
I changed my build prop and it appeared on the market. Bought, installed completly, logged in created character, selected server, but then it tells me their's an update. Takes me to market and no update for the game. Weird cause theirs no compatibility issues, but ive been talking to Customer Service and they've been helping. Till they fix dont try the hack apk(does the same) or download it from market, hoping they officially release for our phone...ridiculous they dont.
Got it working!
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Thread closed since there is a new walkthrough on how to get it working. Please visit the above link.

[APP]Tapatalk (Pro)

I figured I would come here for some sort of guidance about Tapatalk. I'm sure some of you remember way back when Tapatalk was a paid app. I bought it. And now there is a Pro version. Problem is, the app that I paid for is now free. I emailed customer support about it almost 2 weeks ago and still haven't received word back. Anybody else feel this pain or has anybody even been able to reach them about being compensated for it? Guess for now I have to resort to Aptoide to get what I want.
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Nobody yet?
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I might be missing something, but I don't understand the issue.
The app was good enough for you to pay for it when you paid for it, and no features have been removed. The only thing you're upset about is that now other people can get it free? It doesn't sound like you lost anything here. Why would they refund you when you had the app and used it far longer than anyone who is just using the free version now?
The license is lifetime so he has a right to want any refund.
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palco2 said:
The license is lifetime so he has a right to want any refund.
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I don't understand.
The license says you can get a refund for this app any time you want, even months after purchasing it?
orangekid said:
I don't understand.
The license says you can get a refund for this app any time you want, even months after purchasing it?
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i think he's upset that it's free now and he paid for services that r now i guess:good:
The issue is that he paid for a fully working product, now that product has been removed from the play store and replaced by a gimped version of another product that he possibly paid for as well. I myself find this extremely wrong from the company to do this. Instead they should have left the two versions as they were and add a new free gimped one, but they wanted the good ratings from the paid one for the free one... Such bad practice
crnkoj said:
The issue is that he paid for a fully working product, now that product has been removed from the play store and replaced by a gimped version of another product that he possibly paid for as well. I myself find this extremely wrong from the company to do this. Instead they should have left the two versions as they were and add a new free gimped one, but they wanted the good ratings from the paid one for the free one... Such bad practice
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They didn't remove anything.
They made the pro version free and the HD with tablet enhancements paid.
What features did they remove?
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Can I use it for accessing XDA Dev?
orangekid said:
They didn't remove anything.
They made the pro version free and the HD with tablet enhancements paid.
What features did they remove?
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that shows you have no idea what you are talking about.
The original 2 version has been removed from the play store (can now only be accessed with some link from them) and replaced by a gimped version of the "tapatalk pro" application. I wont go into detail as to what is all gimped, as you can look t hat up yourself, but just so you wont post something like "whats removed again", for instance posting picturesin the "free" version goes only with watermark...
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that shows you have no idea what you are talking about.
The original 2 version has been removed from the play store (can now only be accessed with some link from them) and replaced by a gimped version of the "tapatalk pro" application. I wont go into detail as to what is all gimped, as you can look t hat up yourself, but just so you wont post something like "whats removed again", for instance posting picturesin the "free" version goes only with watermark...
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But the version you paid for (that you installed initially) still posts pictures without a watermark, even though it is not in the Play Store anymore, no?
If not, then I see your point.
orangekid said:
But the version you paid for (that you installed initially) still posts pictures without a watermark, even though it is not in the Play Store anymore, no?
If not, then I see your point.
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Just go to their forums and read all the threads about the mess they did themselves because they were greedy.
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Just go to their forums and read all the threads about the mess they did themselves because they were greedy.
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Looks like I'll have to do that to get the full story.
I'm a little miffed too because I paid for it, but now I have to use their free version with ads, and if I want the ad free version I have to pay again? Thats messed up to me. Make your paid version free and add back the ads, then make a "new" version that you now have to pay for? So basically I can stick with the old version (which I am), but now I don't get any updates or new features. Yes they are greedy, there have been 1 or 2 app devs that ive encountered that have made changes where previous buyers would "lose out" in some way, but they came up with some kind of way for previous buyers to redeem the new or corrected version. These guys did not....I mean didn't they already have a free version? I know they at least allowed individual forums to create their own version they could distribute freely.
+1 I've paid for 2 versions of the app already, they just taking advantage now. I won't be paying for anymore versions. Came here thinking many more would be as annoyed but not so. Tapatalks own forum has some interesting info but little care from the devs. Poor form.
dave- said:
+1 I've paid for 2 versions of the app already, they just taking advantage now. I won't be paying for anymore versions. Came here thinking many more would be as annoyed but not so. Tapatalks own forum has some interesting info but little care from the devs. Poor form.
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Yep, they even go so far as to locking every thread that touches this problem... Worst company ever.
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Yep, they even go so far as to locking every thread that touches this problem... Worst company ever.
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Yes, they won't even talk about it. Second time this year I've had a developer screw me over changes to a paid app. Then they complain about people not buying it.
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I don't mind buying better apps etc but all they ever do is rebrand the same app with a feature or 2 and then ask for more money. Almost like we're paying to beta test. The arguments about buying a new copy of windows are stupid. But if people must, XP -> Vista -> 7 were significant enough changes to warrant paying for a new product IMO.
I was fooled twice, my fault but won't happen a 3rd time. If they do happen to release something amazing, I'll obtain it from a 3rd party source unfortunately.
Well I don't think you will receive a refund. This isn't even logical enought to debate.
I remain of the view that the old version was much better with the themes, and everything else

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