reconditioning battery - Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

IF YOU ARE HERE TO TELL ME THAT RECONDITIONING HURTS MY BATTERY, DON'T BOTHER REPLYING.
anyways...
everytime i flash a rom, should i recondition the battery? will i have the same battery life because i'm about to update from nero 3 to nero 4.1

Dont see why not.
Each rom may read the battery differently. the easiest way to deter that is to drain it all the way down until the phone dies, charge it all the way back up and wipe the battery stats.
Gives each rom a fresh reading

I went from 8-10 hours for the past 6 months to now I'm at 14 hours with 19% left after following http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=722862 .
I read somewhere else after letting it drain and charging (while off) again will further increase the counter/timer/life.
Remember though, doing it TO much to a lion battery will damage it. An every now and then (If you did it once every 3-4 months) is a non-issue.

How do you wipe the battery
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Seaport D said:
How do you wipe the battery
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On ClockWork recovery.

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Reverting from Bionix to NeroV5

So... before I went to Bionix, I made a nandroid backup, how do I restore back to that nandroid (or do I have to reflash nero first?)
Please help I'm too lazy to restore all my settings if I reflash a fresh nero Worst case scenario, I'll just stick with bionix.
The problem I'm having with bionix is the terribly crap battery life. I lost 30% in 3 hrs. ._. I mad.
Oh, and is anyone else having a problem where the phone dies overnight and vibrant is your main alarm in the morning? =/
phone should be on a charger no?its not the rom
Yeah, my phone is always on charger overnight low or high battery (yeah yeah, i know its bad for my battery, but can't risk being late)
draikz said:
So... before I went to Bionix, I made a nandroid backup, how do I restore back to that nandroid (or do I have to reflash nero first?)
Please help I'm too lazy to restore all my settings if I reflash a fresh nero Worst case scenario, I'll just stick with bionix.
The problem I'm having with bionix is the terribly crap battery life. I lost 30% in 3 hrs. ._. I mad.
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Really?
Did you have Bionix long enough to do a few power cycles on your battery? The battery life is always crap right after you flash a rom, which is why you need to recondition it. I think it takes about 3-4 cycles before you start to see your battery's true potential.
I went from Nero v5 to Bionix-V 1.2 and the battery life has been stellar to say the least. I'm dang near 30 hrs unplugged and my battery is like at 73% (although I'd have to admit that I haven't been using my mobile as heavily in the past few days).
As for the first question, it is my understanding that you would have to flash back to Nero first (and make sure that kernel is the same as the one you're going to restore from the nandroid).
Oniyuri said:
Really?
Did you have Bionix long enough to do a few power cycles on your battery? The battery life is always crap right after you flash a rom, which is why you need to recondition it. I think it takes about 3-4 cycles before you start to see your battery's true potential.
I went from Nero v5 to Bionix-V 1.2 and the battery life has been stellar to say the least. I'm dang near 30 hrs unplugged and my battery is like at 73% (although I'd have to admit that I haven't been using my mobile as heavily in the past few days).
As for the first question, it is my understanding that you would have to flash back to Nero first (and make sure that kernel is the same as the one you're going to restore from the nandroid).
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30 hours and 73%?
Turning your phone on just to see the time doesn't count.
When you say "3-4 cycles", what exactly do you mean? I did the whole 100% charge, followed by a full drain, followed by another full charge while the phone was off and then wiping the battery stats in recovery mode, followed by another full drain and another full charge. Do I need to do 2 or 3 more full drains and charges, or should I just use and charge the phone normally? Thanks!
xriderx66 said:
30 hours and 73%?
Turning your phone on just to see the time doesn't count.
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lol! nah, I've actually made some calls today but haven't been gaming or surfing as much as I usually do. From that post till now, my battery went down to 68%.
zormac said:
When you say "3-4 cycles", what exactly do you mean? I did the whole 100% charge, followed by a full drain, followed by another full charge while the phone was off and then wiping the battery stats in recovery mode, followed by another full drain and another full charge. Do I need to do 2 or 3 more full drains and charges, or should I just use and charge the phone normally? Thanks!
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Generally, I do the whole "flash the rom at 100% then wipe battery stats", from then on, I just play games (Angry Birds + City Jump mostly - so addicted ~_~) until my battery goes dead. After that, I'll just use my phone normally, from 100% to 0 and then plug in. After a week or so (depending on my usage) I do end up seeing my battery life extend some (or be shorter depending on kernel, I think). So far, I've been doing great on KA7 and when I was on Nero v5 (KA5 kernel iirc), I was getting an avg of 23 - 26(or 27) hrs.
Is it bad to flash... then use the phone until like 70% and then 100% THEN wipe stats? That's what I did, and i'm not sure if it's good x)
Should I fully DRAIN and then charge back or should I just get to like 20% then fully charge back?
you know? i'm not sure.
i just followed what was in the rom thread (always make sure to read it 2-3 times to avoid asking dumb questions, lol).
you could try fully draining the battery, then wiping stats when it hits %100. just make sure that battery is stone cold dead (or at least, that's what i always did).

[Q] Battery Bizarreness

Yesterday, I let my battery die. Charged it last night, and wiped battery states. Ran the phone like normal today. Was down to about 30% left, rebooted. When everything came back up and running, that battery showed to be 5%. WTF!!! How do I drop 25%, just by rebooting?!?!?!?
chadhoard said:
Yesterday, I let my battery die. Charged it last night, and wiped battery states. Ran the phone like normal today. Was down to about 30% left, rebooted. When everything came back up and running, that battery showed to be 5%. WTF!!! How do I drop 25%, just by rebooting?!?!?!?
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Bad battery stats...
Recondition
xriderx66 said:
Bad battery stats...
Recondition
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So...I should wipe the battery stats again after re-charging to 100%?
Then wipe the battery stats in advanced of recovery mode
xriderx66 said:
Then wipe the battery stats in advanced of recovery mode
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I re-wiped the battery stat this morning. I was down to about 50% when I needed to reboot. When everything came back up, it showed I was down to 28%. Is this an indication that the battery needs to be replaced or should I try a different Kernel?
Either you have a bad battery, bad battery meter, or your not reconditioning right.
Longcat14 said:
Either you have a bad battery, bad battery meter, or your not reconditioning right.
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What would you suggest I try? What is the proper way to recondition my battery?
Charge to 100%
Boot into recovery
Wipe battery stats
Reboot
Don't unplug charger until at desktop again (You could debate this one, but that's when I do it)
And don't worry about killing your battery, it'll do more harm than good.
Explanation - When you wipe battery stats, it tells your phone you're at 100%
So, if you wipe when you ARE at 100% you'll get accurate readings.
Eogram said:
Charge to 100%
Boot into recovery
Wipe battery stats
Reboot
Don't unplug charger until at desktop again (You could debate this one, but that's when I do it)
And don't worry about killing your battery, it'll do more harm than good.
Explanation - When you wipe battery stats, it tells your phone you're at 100%
So, if you wipe when you ARE at 100% you'll get accurate readings.
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The past 2 times I did this, the phone was turned off and plugged in and charged over night. this morning I wiped the stat, but i do not remember if I had unplugged it before it finished booting up. I am charging it now, with it on. When it reaches 100%, should I reboot into recovery and wipe it or should I let it run all the way down?
What exactly do you mean by 'let it run all the way down'?
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Eogram said:
What exactly do you mean by 'let it run all the way down'?
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Down to say some were around 20 - 5%.
As far as I understand that shouldn't be necessary, and could weaken your battery.
As long as it's fully charged when you wipe the stats you should be good to go.
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Eogram said:
As far as I understand that shouldn't be necessary, and could weaken your battery.
As long as it's fully charged when you wipe the stats you should be good to go.
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I have another 20% to go. i will let you know tomorrow how things work out.
Eogram said:
As far as I understand that shouldn't be necessary, and could weaken your battery.
As long as it's fully charged when you wipe the stats you should be good to go.
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Ok...I have ran the phone like normal. Within 6 hours, I am down to 62%. I rebooted the phone, and it still shows me at 62%. At least I have that fixed.
Now, I see some people use OverStock and seem to be getting better battery life. I just want to get about 16+ hours out of my battery. Right now i seem to be pushing 12 hours. What is the tick that i am missing??
For every hundred vibrant users there seems to be a hundred different accounts of battery life, and a hindered different opinions on how to keep it down. 12 hours on the stock battery is pretty good, especially compared to stock.
Mine'll last me around 15+, if I left it not charging, i think.
I'm on overstock, the screen is at the dimmest 95% of the time, and I use setcpu. 1000/1000 with a screen off profile of 200/200. So, that works for me pretty well.
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You need to recondition yr battery as posted above, 2-4 cycles. But i prefer to re-flash ROM when battery 100%, should you get proper batt stats.
You may buy new one to test yr system n batt stats, also good for spare. Or just borrow yr friends battery, just to check yr rom n batt stats. Treat it like you did before.
Good luck.
Eogram said:
For every hundred vibrant users there seems to be a hundred different accounts of battery life, and a hindered different opinions on how to keep it down. 12 hours on the stock battery is pretty good, especially compared to stock.
Mine'll last me around 15+, if I left it not charging, i think.
I'm on overstock, the screen is at the dimmest 95% of the time, and I use setcpu. 1000/1000 with a screen off profile of 200/200. So, that works for me pretty well.
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200/200 conservative scaling and no sleep death? Didn't know that was possible on overstock...guess I'll try it.
Edit: sleep of death...you must be on power save or something which afaik doesn't work at all.
*checks*
Yeah, powersave. What's this about it not working? It occasionally lags a little when I unlock it and the widget definitely says 200
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I don't think powersave is supported...try conservative and you'll get sleep death due to the low frequency...you don't get this with powersave because I don't believe it's working...trying to confirm this.

[Q] When do you have to wait for full battery to flash?

I know it is recommended to charge battery to full before flashing a new rom to keep from messing up battery stats. Do you have to wait for a full charge to flash other things too? Kernel, themes, updates to roms?
Really...it doesnt matter. I know it is suggested. But if you are anything like me, or many others, I am sure you are flashing ROMs and kernels and fixes and etc. all the time. I have flashed with my battery at pretty much any charge there is. It doesn't matter as long as you drain your battery a lot. I drain mine daily sometimes twice a day.
rubbamade said:
Really...it doesnt matter. I know it is suggested. But if you are anything like me, or many others, I am sure you are flashing ROMs and kernels and fixes and etc. all the time. I have flashed with my battery at pretty much any charge there is. It doesn't matter as long as you drain your battery a lot. I drain mine daily sometimes twice a day.
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you drain your batt twice a day!!! jesus, poor phone LOL.
I flash all ROMs at 100% BOOM! everything else i flash at 100% most of the time but not every time as you probably should. I purchased a wall charger and 2 spare batts all for $1 off ebay. Its awesome cuz there is always a batt at 100% life lying around. Everyone should invest in it if ur interested in flashing at 100% batt life to insure batt stats
I often flash in the evening when my battery is around 30%. Still works normal. With JVK I get 5 % battery drain over night.
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I flash things almost daily... and I have never done it at 100%, unless it was coincidental.
I have concluded that the reason for being at 100% when flashing a ROM is because when flashing a ROM, it creates a new batterystats.bin file essentially wiping battery stats. Flashing a new kernal, etc. does not, and therefore a 100% charge should not be required.
Flash away. If for some reason you need to, you can always wipe stats at another time. I generally can't wait to flash a new ROM, so I test it out and if I like it, charge overnight, wipe stats in the morning, and I'm off...
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when you do it at 100% it helps your phone read your battery stats better...
If you don't it'll be a few % off, and thats it.
I use to wait till I had a full charge. Then I did it whenever and would recondition my battery. Now I do it whenever and swap out my batterstats.bin with one I have saved and gets good life. Does it do any good don't know but it amuses me.

[Q] when to wipe battery stats

should i wipe battery stats i switching from extend. battery to stock. or only when switching roms? when does this matter?
[Also i know this doesn't belong here but my PC is really slow do easiest way is to ask: is there someway to search all my posts at once as they're becoming hard to keep track of ?]
CleveRuse said:
should i wipe battery stats i switching from extend. battery to stock. or only when switching roms? when does this matter?
[Also i know this doesn't belong here but my PC is really slow do easiest way is to ask: is there someway to search all my posts at once as they're becoming hard to keep track of ?]
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I switched back to my stock battery after my extended died. I wiped battery stats, wiping stats when flashing new roms is recommended.
Wiping battery stats is never really considered an essential thing to do no matter what. It is nice though to do. I suggest it when you start realizing crap battery life on one ROM/kernel compared to the last one. The suggested way is to wipe it after installing a new kernel and as well as when you swap batteries. Other than that, really no need to in my eyes.
I wipe after every new ROM install, period.
ProTekk said:
The suggested way is to wipe it after installing a new kernel and as well as when you swap batteries. Other than that, really no need to in my eyes.
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This is when I do it also.
Digging up a thread here, didn't want to waste a new one.. But I have the OEM Extended Battery and I tried wiping my battery stats.. Charge full, reboot into recovery, wipe stats, unplug.. After this I noticed that my battery said 93% even tho the charge light was green.. I drained it until it turned off and charged again overnight.. In the AM, light was green, i turned phone on and its still showing 93% even though it was green. Any ideas? Did I lose that 7% forever?
Sometimes wiping the stats causes a bad battery read. A few reboots should get you back on track. If that doesn't work, try a full battery drain then a full charge. Let us know.
Will try that, even tho I kinda did already. I'm hoping with a few battery cycles the problem goes away.. What Im hoping is I don't need to bump charge now every time like I did when I had my inc
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drawde said:
Did I lose that 7% forever?
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I doubt you lost anything. It would be like Spinal Tap having an amp which only went to 9.
I only had to wipe when my battery wasn't decreasing in percentage. After I wiped, it started decreasing like it should. I would think any fast reduction in percentage would be a bad battery.
Are there any proven facts out there that it is really ever necessary to wipe them? It's not like it actually improves battery life am I correct?
as far as wiping battery stats goes.
i have only used it when reconditioning a battery.
ie if you start noticing bad (read: worse that you have been getting) battery life after flashing a new rom or kernel. or just after a time using a standard rom.
what i do is
1 turn the phone off.
2 charge it on AC until it goes green and for an hour afterward.
3 unplug it and wait 30 seconds.
4 plug it back in and repeat step 3 until the light goes from red to green within 20 or so seconds. (this is called bump charging)
5 boot into CWR and wipe battery stats. and let it burn all the way down until it wont even turn on (flashing orange led)
6 charge to full and enjoy your maybe improved battery life.
when wiping battery stats, do i have to do it a few times or no? i wiped battery stats at full and drained battery until it turned off twice.. once wiping the stats with CWR and once, and after a cycle, with the 'battery calibrate' app (made by someone here on xda i believe)..
seems to be working okay i guess, but lets say i have 94%, i reset my phone and it comes back with only 84%.. it appears it's still reading my battery wrong by around 10%. is this normal?
It doesn't happen at every reset, looks like just the first one of the day. I guess I can charge to full, reboot, and charge to full again as a workaround.
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i meant to ask this before but I forgot, can anyone try to do that and let me know if it happens to them too or if its just me
Charge with phone on until full then turn it off and charge.. about how long does it stay amber?
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Strange Problem - Battery Wont Charge to 100%

every time i charge my phone to full, the battery level reads that i'm at 91%, never at 100%. i deleted battery stats in recovery but the problem persists. i got an htc inspire and running absolution 3.7. how do i fix this?
my current absolution rom is a backup. i had 3 different roms before restoring this rom. should i have done a full wipe besfore restoring the rom? could this be the problem why my battery doenst give a good read?
How did you charged before wiping stats?
The best way:
- power off your phone completely
- charge battery
- wait till battery-LED is green (maybe just wait a little bit longer)
- start into recovery
- wipe battery stats
choliemelan said:
How did you charged before wiping stats?
The best way:
- power off your phone completely
- charge battery
- wait till battery-LED is green (maybe just wait a little bit longer)
- start into recovery
- wipe battery stats
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hi choliemelan.. to answer your question, i had my battery at 90% before wiping battery stats in recovery.
but i got a quesrtion for you.. my current rom is a backup of absolution. i had 3 different roms before restoring this rom. should i have done a full wipe before restoring the rom?
omarrq said:
hi choliemelan.. to answer your question, i had my battery at 90% before wiping battery stats in recovery.
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Ok, just try out my suggestion with charging in power-off-mode
omarrq said:
but i got a quesrtion for you.. my current rom is a backup of absolution. i had 3 different roms before restoring this rom. should i have done a full wipe before restoring the rom?
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the 3 Roms you used before were Absolution, too, but different versions? So a full wipe is recommended, but shouldn't be essential.
In case of trying fully different Roms, a full wipe / factory reset is neccessary, also if you are using a "xyz"-Rom before and want to roll back to a backup of Absolution-Rom.
also your battery might have started to get weaker. if you use the phone a lot and make lots of charging cycles battery life gets shorter. also if you plug it for a minute or for an hour its considered a charging cycle. so if you have a lot, then you might have to get a new one
choliemelan said:
the 3 Roms you used before were Absolution, too, but different versions? So a full wipe is recommended, but shouldn't be essential.
In case of trying fully different Roms, a full wipe / factory reset is neccessary, also if you are using a "xyz"-Rom before and want to roll back to a backup of Absolution-Rom.
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hi choliemelan.. actaully, i used 3 completely different roms, not different versions of Absolution, just to let you know. tell me what you think i should do.
Its not a strange problem man, google it, it happens all the time, just keep charging it properly and it will be fine. I wouldnt worry about it, some phones go to 100% and drop like a stone till 90% then go normal, its just the way your phone translates it
I had similiar problem...whenever i played games or anything that used 30% battery or battery was below 20% I pluged to charge but it stayed there for 1:30 hour 0o. So i unpluged and played games till 0% and phone "died". Than removed battery for 2 mins and charged to 100% without turning on...
when you use all of battery take battery out(i dont know why but it makes battery better). This battery in androids really mess up things...hope u fix it
Nokia 3310 ftw x)
CdTDroiD said:
Its not a strange problem man, google it, it happens all the time, just keep charging it properly and it will be fine. I wouldnt worry about it, some phones go to 100% and drop like a stone till 90% then go normal, its just the way your phone translates it
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thanks man,., will do
Kresh0 said:
I had similiar problem...whenever i played games or anything that used 30% battery or battery was below 20% I pluged to charge but it stayed there for 1:30 hour 0o. So i unpluged and played games till 0% and phone "died". Than removed battery for 2 mins and charged to 100% without turning on...
when you use all of battery take battery out(i dont know why but it makes battery better). This battery in androids really mess up things...hope u fix it
Nokia 3310 ftw x)
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yeah my battery today started off at 97& after full charge. then when i checked on it 6 hours later, it reads like it started at 100%.. this is very strange.
Kind of similar problem with me, Even after keeping my htc one v in charging for 4 hrs, the battery still reaches 85 ~ 90% always, and then it charges at snail's speed.
If i restart my phone at this point, the battery indicator shows 100% !
I am confused, since if it was a genuine trickle charge, the battery percentage should remain same even after reboot.

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