will galaxy get 3d drivers or not?spica already got.and wokin good.what about this galaxy??this phone graphics sucking me to play many games.
It already has 3D drivers .
First, we need a source of 2.2, with all drivers. Then we can make some optimalizations, but don't think it will run every game at good framerate!
I think it will only let you play some games at better FPS (like Raging Thunder 2), games that doesn't work now (like Modern Combat: Sandstorm) I think will not work ever on this phone
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It already has 3D drivers .
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But can you please share your 3D drivers with us. So that we can also use it with our i5800. It would really be very nice of you.
Thanks in advance.
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But can you please share your 3D drivers with us. So that we can also use it with our i5800. It would really be very nice of you.
Thanks in advance.
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Well, they are included in the phone aren't they ? And they work not so bad..
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Well, they are included in the phone aren't they ? And they work not so bad..
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But whenever i try to play HD games or Sims 3 it only gives me white textures.
Spica does not have a GPU too...
with jpf+mod jpb kernel+lagfix2 quadrant says i have opengl es-cm 1.1 which is weird since i think i had 2.0 before :S. Could it be do to the jpb kernel?
P.S. I can play tank hero which says: "OpenGlL 3D graphics"
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It already has 3D drivers .
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what u have them already??
can u please share them?i'm not able to play so many games on my galaxy i5801.
thanks in advance.
if anyone have galaxy 5 then please check its GPU name using Quadrant sys info and share with us so that we can figure out WHY our galaxy 3 performs bad compared to galaxy 5.
Even galaxy 3 has better cpu.
snowcloud said:
if anyone have galaxy 5 then please check its GPU name using Quadrant sys info and share with us so that we can figure out WHY our galaxy 3 performs bad compared to galaxy 5.
Even galaxy 3 has better cpu.
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i5500-Galaxy 5-has a Qualcomm 7227 processor which features a real dedicated GPU, Adreno 200, which happens to be the SAME GPU that is found in the first generation Snapdragon processors! Galaxy 3 processor is SC56442A6E, which is not better than 7227, only the max operating frequency is higher.
That's why Galaxy 5 performs better than Galaxy 3...
hamsiro said:
i5500-Galaxy 5-has a Qualcomm 7227 processor which features a real dedicated GPU, Adreno 200, which happens to be the SAME GPU that is found in the first generation Snapdragon processors! Galaxy 3 processor is SC56442A6E, which is not better than 7227, only the max operating frequency is higher.
That's why Galaxy 5 performs better than Galaxy 3...
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I want to inform every galaxy 3 owner that guys dont loose hope about 3d gameplay
I just bought galaxy 551 for my brother and to my surprise even though both the phones have identical processor and clocking frequency galaxy 551 scores 373 in 3d graphics in quadrant advanced.So maybe samsung or developers can do something to improve the 3d graphic drivers.
Cheers
rdass3646 said:
I want to inform every galaxy 3 owner that guys dont loose hope about 3d gameplay
I just bought galaxy 551 for my brother and to my surprise even though both the phones have identical processor and clocking frequency galaxy 551 scores 373 in 3d graphics in quadrant advanced.So maybe samsung or developers can do something to improve the 3d graphic drivers.
Cheers
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Galaxy 551 DOES NOT HAVE the same processor than the Galaxy 3 ! Try to compile/run a Galaxy 551 kernel on the Galaxy 3 and you'll see why i say that.
Gsam101 said:
Galaxy 551 DOES NOT HAVE the same processor than the Galaxy 3 ! Try to compile/run a Galaxy 551 kernel on the Galaxy 3 and you'll see why i say that.
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Well you might be correct on that aspect but the main problem about galaxy 3 is bad texture. compression which can be resolved via proper programing as the chipset in galaxy 3 does not require any dedicated gpu to run 3d programmes or games.but just to confirm I will try the 3d drivers of galaxy 551 on galaxy 3 as I have both the phones at my home.
Will post the results soon.
Thank s
disappointed that a lower priced Galaxy 5 has got a 3d processor while the higher version galaxy 3 didn't.
5800 does not support 3D cpu is not it?
G3 dosn't had any opengl hardware.
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why does the galaxy 551 supports 3d
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Criminal23 said:
G3 dosn't had any opengl hardware
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Our G3 already supports OpenGL 1.1
Swypnięte z i5800
Yes, It supports OpenGL 1.1, but CPU is rendering all, so that means we don't have OpenGL hardware
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I just ordered my Galaxy S II from the UK, but there has been a question hangin over my head.
Will games that are optimized for Tegra 2 ( such as games in Tegra Zone ) work on the Galaxy S II with the Exynos chipset?
mahdibassam said:
I just ordered my Galaxy S II from the UK, but there has been a question hangin over my head.
Will games that are optimized for Tegra 2 ( such as games in Tegra Zone ) work on the Galaxy S II with the Exynos chipset?
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nope.
dungeon defender hd which was optimized for tegra did not work. samurai 2 does not work either.a real bummer
awesome-member said:
nope.
dungeon defender hd which was optimized for tegra did not work. samurai 2 does not work either.a real bummer
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Friut ninja hd, also doesnt work. Says that its optimised for tegra devices only.
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From reading other comments elsewhere it appeared that the Exynos chipset was better than the Tegra 2, or is the Tegra 2 just better in games?...
Tegra games will not work on any other GPU ATM
galaxy s and nexus s PowerVR sgx 540 and other high end GPUs are more than capable of running "tegra 2" games.
Not to mention the tegra 2 really isn't that much faster than the SGS NS sgx540 tegra has two CPU cores and from what i gathered when gaming it dedicated one core for system and the other strictly for games when gaming.
Nvidia is paying off developers just like they do on PC. only difference between mobile and PC though is that PC "nvidia meant to be played" games will still work on ATI
Not the same with other mobile GPUs unfortunately
Nvidia is ruining android by doing this exclusive BS
Also the SGS2 GPU should be on par if not faster than the tegra 2
^ Gotcha thanks!...
Not sure if this has been answered before, but this post seems like a good place for this discussion...
1. Why did samsung launch a phone under two different cpu's...
2. Doesn't this mean that when samsung goes to release an android update for the phone they have to make two different updates, one for each cpu?
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Not sure if this has been answered before, but this post seems like a good place for this discussion...
1. Why did samsung launch a phone under two different cpu's...
2. Doesn't this mean that when samsung goes to release an android update for the phone they have to make two different updates, one for each cpu?
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1. Probably due to the limited supply of Exynos CPUs
2. No, unless there needs to be a new driver written for the CPU (which is highly unlikely)
Nvidia is just causing some more fragmentation. As if we needed anymore.
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Not only that but AMD is actually getting into the Android hardware game so it's about to get even messier. I hope Google comes out with some kind of DirectX thing to help with this.
well this cant go on forever because HTC sensation also comin out with a different cpu. so we should see the games released in different versions for all dual core phones pretty soon.
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well this cant go on forever because HTC sensation also comin out with a different cpu. so we should see the games released in different versions for all dual core phones pretty soon.
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Wouldnt worry to much about that Most game developers make sure their game run on a wide selection of phones. Addapting a game to run on a new phone is not a lot of work, but increases the market potential. As mentioned before, Nvidia is paying developers to make the game tegra2 only. And luckely Nvidia is the only one doing this so far. A direct X solution for android could be a good medicine against the fragmentation, but I do know a certain hackers community that makes tegra 2 games playable on other devices. (have been playing galaxy on fire 2 for a while now) But XDA doesnt support linking to pirated software so I cannot share this, im sorry. (Google is your friend )
If the range of tegra 2 games will grow, there will be more interest in porting those games. Since its not very hard. Lets hope the hackers destroy the fragmentation haha.
As long as game developers stick to OpenGL ES specifications, all devices will be able to play the game (current). The device with more powerful GPU will obviously play it better.
What Nvidia is doing with Tegra is that they are making the sponsored game developers use the proprietary texture compression format that only Tegra Devices can run. This is what I have against Tegra Zone and Tegra as whole. The last thing we want is Nvidia playing dirty games they tried to play in PC gaming arena (they still do to some extent with PhysX and CUDA ).
So there is no real need to worry about developers having to code the game for each GPU core out there. Sensation might have different GPU but it will be OpenGL ES 2.x compatible just like Mali and others.
mahdibassam said:
I just ordered my Galaxy S II from the UK, but there has been a question hangin over my head.
Will games that are optimized for Tegra 2 ( such as games in Tegra Zone ) work on the Galaxy S II with the Exynos chipset?
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Samsung galaxy s and Desire HD can run tegra game ... why would world's fastest phone cannot run it????
Ur solution here...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSAJptywT8Q
Below the video , see description.. he has attached all files needed...
U need to root ur SGS2 and Install chaifire 3d... install nvidia driver.. it will run flawlessly....
here.. .http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1087427
http://samsunggalaxysforums.com/showthread.php/4949-Tegra-only-games-now-working-in-SGSII!
Enjoy...
mahdibassam said:
I just ordered my Galaxy S II from the UK, but there has been a question hangin over my head.
Will games that are optimized for Tegra 2 ( such as games in Tegra Zone ) work on the Galaxy S II with the Exynos chipset?
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Yes but you'll need to Root, download Chainfire3D and the NVidia Tegra patch.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1090032
I can confirm this works for some games...
These are the games I've tested thus far:
Samurai II: Vengeance runs very well - However their is a bug with opening the combo draw.
Pinball HD for Tegra runs flawlessly
Riptide GP doesn't load at all - Just a black screen and then crash to homescreen.
When I have the money I'll buy the other games later and post results later.
Our phones also use an OpenGL compression which no other phone uses as of this moment, so there is nearly 0 support for it at the moment
EDIT: I forgot to mention this is with the use of Chainfire 3D with the Tegra plugin.
Pinball HD is running even on my Xperia X10 with Chainfire 3d...
Samurai 2 ... runs on low texture but not playable on x10.... but i have seen videos of it running on SGS and Desire HD... so it will run on sgs2 too
Dont know about other games...
What is it with this model and those optimized games? and compatibility issues? Seriously? Would it be solved anytime soon? Or is the G in the end means i shud give up hope on my phone? Most S2 optimized games on samsungapps can't be installed
From JayceOoi's website:
In short, Samsung Galaxy S II GT-I9100 is using Samsung own Exynos 4210 SoC CPU and ARM Mali-400 GPU. And GT-I9100G uses Texas Instruments OMAP4430 CPU and PowerVR SGX540 GPU.
TWO DIFFERENT INTERNAL SPECS, DIFFERENT GPU AND CPU.
I9100G
- Doesn’t overheat easily, better battery life.
- CPU seems to be capped at 1008 MHz.
- Poorer 3D performance.
- Can’t download apps / games developed for Samsung Galaxy S II I9100 in Samsung Apps / Android Market.
- Fonts in PAPAGO! very small.
- Not much custom firmware / modification
I9100
- Overheat easily, poor battery life on Android 2.3.3. Android 2.3.5 fixed it.
- Fully use 1.2 GHz CPU.
- Better 3D performance.
- Anti-Aliasing (4xAA and 16xAA) support with Chainfire3D Pro.
- Lot of custom firmware, kernel, modification, tweaks…
Please Vote to get CyanogenMod on your I9100G
Guys,
Please vote the poll in the following link to get CyanogenMod on your I9100G.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1583091
You can find the poll at the top of the thread. Please spread the news.
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- Can’t download apps / games developed for Samsung Galaxy S II I9100 in Samsung Apps / Android Market.
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i didn't get this point really... i have the G-variant and i didn't see any problem when downloading any app or game to it... am not sure if the applications are actually developed for a special mobile version, mostly apps/games are developed for "Android" and not for a certain company such as samsung or HTC or any other and neither for any model like GT-i9000 , GT-i9100 or even GT-i9100G etc...
ICS for GT-I9100G in india is available now!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1679210
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1679210
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enjoy the upgrade hope they keep on releasing other updates for all countries in the upcoming 2 days...am actually waiting for CM9 to be officially finalized so i can flash it
Does any have an opinion as so the speed between the 1.2 GHz dual-core Qualcomm Snapdragon APQ8060 va tegra 2.
Seems like all the major players are using tegra 2 but the hp touchpad sports 1.2 GHz dual-core Qualcomm Snapdragon APQ8060.
Is one chip more costly then the other?
My guess is that the tegra 2 is cheaper thats why the mainstream tablets are using it. But I could be wrong.
Any input?
4.3 said:
Does any have an opinion as so the speed between the 1.2 GHz dual-core Qualcomm Snapdragon APQ8060 va tegra 2.
Seems like all the major players are using tegra 2 but the hp touchpad sports 1.2 GHz dual-core Qualcomm Snapdragon APQ8060.
Is one chip more costly then the other?
My guess is that the tegra 2 is cheaper thats why the mainstream tablets are using it. But I could be wrong.
Any input?
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Most of the Honeycomb tablets use Tegra 2 because Honeycomb was primarily built for Tegra 2 much the same way ICS was built primarily for omap 4.
As far as speed goes, with identical clock speed the GPU in the APQ8060 (Adreno 220) is twice as fast as the one in Tegra, while Tegra has a slightly faster CPU. They average out to be even.
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i will tell you something graphic drivers in android are big problem and google cant do anything about it as the number of devices are too many,i mean to say they cant optimize it as it is in the control of oems and there is the problem as most oems dont have great developers you get scrap drivers on the chipset, you can see tegra drivers on 1 and 2 are not so great, i have notion ink and touchpad alpha 3 the flash videos in touchpad alpha are great with no stuttering but in notion ink there is so much stuttering while playing.coz tegra is new where is qualcomm has been around for longtime and they know much better than nvidia in optimizing their drivers.this is where apple is much better than google as they have a single chipset to optimize and no oems to worry about so their products come with optimized drivers and work great.i wish there was a way oems could collaborate on their drivers with google so it would work great for android in terms of the os delivery for all
Why is this in development for :s
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ace9988 said:
Why is this in development for :s
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A very simple example: Tegra 2 can't play 1080 video, Qualcomm APQ8060 can play flawlessly
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Thank you for this.....
hakkinenvthh said:
A very simple example: Tegra 2 can't play 1080 video, Qualcomm APQ8060 can play flawlessly
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There is a guy who thinks he knows more about tablets than most ppl. He's very annoying with the information that he does have. I came across an HP TouchPad and loaded the CM9 Nightly build and was talking about the difference between a device that had the Tigra 2. He was trying to tell me that the Tigra 2 was better but I couldn't find a difference. So now I can go back and show him what I've never even noticed (except for the fact that I think my video is better) seeing as there is a lack of games that are working on ICS 4.0.4 I'm not able to show him anything that looks good. I cant get any HD games working.
If you can let me know what the most compatible game packages I should be looking for with the HP Touch 32 GB please let me know. I've tried just about everything even the Samsung Galaxy II. I get all the way to the game and it just closes.
adreno 220 GPU its 2x more powerful than tegra 2 GPU,
and if you overclocked the touchpad CPU at 1.8ghz will be 50‰ more faster
I've over clocked to 1.5Ghz and she's smooth as a whistle. I'm noticing that none none of the HD games r working is there an update as to when that maybe fixed ? Or am I just using the wrong install files... I've got some HD games for some of my other devices I would love to pay them on this new system :beer:
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I've over clocked to 1.5Ghz and she's smooth as a whistle. I'm noticing that none none of the HD games r working is there an update as to when that maybe fixed ? Or am I just using the wrong install files... I've got some HD games for some of my other devices I would love to pay them on this new system :beer:
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what custom rom use?
because on my touchpad i can play every new and old hd games
I'm using the nightly build 4.0.4 CM9.
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OK the latest update.... I'm not sure what happened or why the games were not working. However after restarting the system (after installing the game) it worked... not sure why.... thanks to everyone for all your help and hard work... I'm wondering when the expected fix for the camera will be out. It will be nice to use Skype on this :beer:
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CPU wise tegra is better just for the fact that they are using a9 cores and the s3 snapdragon uses scorpion cores which are more closely related to the a8. S3 snapdragon @ 1.5 ghz is less than or equal to an a9 based processor running @ 1 GHz.
GPU goes to the snapdragon as its a lot more powerful GPU than the geforce GPU in the tegra... however there is much much more high end games that are tuned in to work with the tegra GPU so in real world performance its about a wash. Do you prefer performance or compatibility.
The one spot that the snapdragon processor shines is battery life. Going back to the s3 running @ 1.5 GHz and the a9 based SoC running @ 1 GHz you'll actually see better battery life from the s3 as the cores are more power efficient, but in the end your not really going to notice the difference unless you plan on playing 1080p videos which is a little bit pointless seeing as our screen isn't even 720p and 1080p video takes up a lot of space.
Long story short its pretty much a wash barring the 1080p video.
Edited because of damn auto correct!
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is there a way to fake a tegra device¿ with the latest nightlys and chainfire i got mothing to work!
or is chainfire working on cm9/
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Helmut_TuT_GuT said:
is there a way to fake a tegra device¿ with the latest nightlys and chainfire i got mothing to work!
or is chainfire working on cm9/
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I don't use chain fire. I'm just using the adreno drivers. Also to spoof as another device u will have to edit your build props. Make sure u do a full backup and backup your build.props
You can use rom toolbox.
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ShadowTech2008 said:
I don't use chain fire. I'm just using the adreno drivers. Also to spoof as another device u will have to edit your build props. Make sure u do a full backup and backup your build.props
You can use rom toolbox.
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This is a useful step by step guide from Reverend Kyle .
http://www.reverendkyle.com/index.php/articles/107-how-to-edit-the-build-prop-file-in-android .
Build.prop Editor (available in play store) is a great way to edit your build.prop. it automatically stores a backup every time you edit as well.
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Helmut_TuT_GuT said:
is there a way to fake a tegra device¿ with the latest nightlys and chainfire i got mothing to work!
or is chainfire working on cm9/
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You can spoof a tegra 2 GPU but not a tegra 3 GPU with chain fire.
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do ihave just to spoof the build or do i have also to install chainfire.?
Helmut_TuT_GuT said:
do ihave just to spoof the build or do i have also to install chainfire.?
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If your spoofing the GPU then you will need chainfire. If your just doing what I'm doing and simply spoofing the market to games built for the adreno GPU then just edit your build.props
I'm spoofing the market to think I'm a galaxy s2 or Motorola Xoom. They both have the same CPU. Galaxy S2 uses the Tegra 2 signature and the Motorola Xoom uses the Adreno signature. Both of these spoofs do not require me to have the chainfire program. I did install the adreno drivers linked to the original install post.
I'm thinking I going to start to play around with the chainfire GPU spoof options more for game download compatibility. As far as downloading and installing a Tegra 2 game, you will need to spoof the GPU for the download (unless you manually find the correct apk) and the install will also need the GPU spoof. Once the install is done then disable the GPU spoof. Then run the game with your Galaxy spoof or your Xoom spoof.
Please note that I've spoofed my build.props and have not changed it since. I'm currently showing my device as a Motorola Xoom. I'm able to play all the games. Only every now and than do I change it for the game install. Then i put it back and I have no issues. HD games and all.
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Has samsung released drivers for samsung galaxy ace GT-S5830i? As all of us know....we have a different GPU than the normal GT-S5830......i have heard that our GPU is better than the former ace'?
Any help about this would be appreciated
if this is same as SGY (which it is) then it may not have a dedicated GPU..
As far as i know the gpu is not entirely like galaxy y.Our drivers are different..I think broadcom has to release it..
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andy.acei said:
As far as i know the gpu is not entirely like galaxy y.Our drivers are different..I think broadcom has to release it..
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if there is gpu then there is driver for it in kernel sources and blobs in firmwares
http://opensource.samsung.com/index.jsp;jsessionid=4127BB81614787358080E5026BEBE124 can any body tell me what is this then?
if u search for our device there.....it shows some kernel and other files......are these the drivers we are looking for?
Androidnow said:
http://opensource.samsung.com/index.jsp;jsessionid=4127BB81614787358080E5026BEBE124 can any body tell me what is this then?
if u search for our device there.....it shows some kernel and other files......are these the drivers we are looking for?
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Those are only incomplete kernel sources that no one got ever to boot without source modifications.
The GT-S5830i the phone uses CPU for graphic rendering and it does not have a GPU and uses 90%(with the exception of the display RAM, internal memory) of the same hardware as Galaxy Y - proof? you can boot Y's ROM's on 5830i and vice versa.
Androidnow said:
Has samsung released drivers for samsung galaxy ace GT-S5830i? As all of us know....we have a different GPU than the normal GT-S5830......i have heard that our GPU is better than the former ace'?
Any help about this would be appreciated
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You heard wrong. The i model uses a Samsung CPU that's faster than 5830's, but because its used as a GPU replacement too the speed difference is minor
tomsons26 said:
Those are only incomplete kernel sources that no one got ever to boot without source modifications.
The GT-S5830i the phone uses CPU for graphic rendering and it does not have a GPU and uses 90%(with the exception of the display RAM, internal memory) of the same hardware as Galaxy Y - proof? you can boot Y's ROM's on 5830i and vice versa.
You heard wrong. The i model uses a Samsung CPU that's faster than 5830's, but because its used as a GPU replacement too the speed difference is minor
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Then whats broadcom videocore 4 thing?
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Androidnow said:
Then whats broadcom videocore 4 thing?
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There is no seperate gpu. This Broadcom Videocore 4 variant has been added into cpu itself so that cpu can perform graphical calculations.
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Then why on earth samsung had to name it Ace....it could have been galaxy Y plus or advance
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Androidnow said:
Then why on earth samsung had to name it Ace....it could have been galaxy Y plus or advance
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Lol...ask Samsung
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IF the Ace "i" has the same hardware as the SGY then......
CPU = Broadcom BCM21553 ARM11 832 MHz processor, ARMv6
CPU Data sheet = http://www.datasheetarchive.com/BCM2155*-datasheet.html
GPU = Broadcom BCM2763 VideoCore IV LPDDR2 128MB
GPU Data sheet = http://www.datasheetarchive.com/Bcm2763*-datasheet.html
According to Broadcom the processor/gpu is capable of encoding and decoding at full 1080p resolution.
I found this website of the SGY being overclocked to 900mhz.... he/she also supplies the kernel that he/she modified....if its any use to us.
http://advanced-droid.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/galaxy-y-s5360-overclock-900mhz.html
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IF the Ace "i" has the same hardware as the SGY then......
CPU = Broadcom BCM21553 ARM11 832 MHz processor, ARMv6
CPU Data sheet = http://www.datasheetarchive.com/BCM2155*-datasheet.html
GPU = Broadcom BCM2763 VideoCore IV LPDDR2 128MB
GPU Data sheet = http://www.datasheetarchive.com/Bcm2763*-datasheet.html
According to Broadcom the processor/gpu is capable of encoding and decoding at full 1080p resolution.
I found this website of the SGY being overclocked to 900mhz.... he/she also supplies the kernel that he/she modified....if its any use to us.
http://advanced-droid.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/galaxy-y-s5360-overclock-900mhz.html
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BCM2763? Nope
The i model and Galaxy Y has Broadcom VideoCore IV HW there is not much info what is it.
And interesting fact that's useful for gaming on these phones is that it supports only OpenGL ES 1.1, just as any software based GPU, because higher OpenGL ES version is not possible without a GPU.
OpenGL ES 1.1 was used back in Android 1.6 Donut days in 2009/early 2010
The original Ace has Adreno 200 which supports OpenGL ES 2.0 and is used in the cheap version of Xperia Play and a lot of other smartphones even today
OpenGL ES 1.1 VS OpenGL ES 2.0 is the same like DirectX 7 VS DirectX 9c
Samsung like " oh my gawd, we have no more qualcom processor left to put in the SGA"
"This broadcoms thinggy looks nice"
*puts the processor into SGA*
"This my friend, no longer just a galaxy ace, it is galaxy ace with an 'I'.
*sells SGA*
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To think back that SAMSUNG actually markets/advertise galaxy ace of having a powerfull qualcomm cpu, i wonder how the ace with i are marketed
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chekuhakim said:
Samsung like " oh my gawd, we have no more qualcom processor left to put in the SGA"
"This broadcoms thinggy looks nice"
*puts the processor into SGA*
"This my friend, no longer just a galaxy ace, it is galaxy ace with an 'I'.
*sells SGA*
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To think back that SAMSUNG actually markets/advertise galaxy ace of having a powerfull qualcomm cpu, i wonder how the ace with i are marketed
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Yeah Qualcomm stopped supporting and manufacturing ARMv6 chipsets in the end of 2011 so Samsung needed a replacement.
Maybe this is the reason my friend's new galaxy ace is on GB firmware not froyo.
It is quite a weird because she doesnt know how to use kies or odin.
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The SGY and the SGAi does not have a separate GPU chip.
Instead it has a Broadcom BCM21553 multimedia baseband processor, that not only has an integrated ARM11 processor running at 832mhz, but also a separate GPU within the same architecture. The same as the Qualcomm msm7227 and Adreno 200 chip.
While Qualcom chips are classed as "system-on-a-chip". The one chip die that handles the processing, graphics processing, usb interface, camera sound.
The Broadcom classes its chip as a '3G phone-on-a-chip'. Im assuming, reading the literature, that this chip takes care of the Processing, Graphics, 2G, 3G data connection and voice data........ although it doesn't mention anything about usb interfaces ect.
It also dose mention that it supports OpenGL 2.0
info from here
http://www.broadcom.com/products/Cellular/3G-Baseband-Processors/BCM21553
and here
http://www.broadcom.com/products/Mobile-Multimedia/Mobile-Multimedia-Processors/BCM2763
VideoCore Wiki link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VideoCore
Video Core Broadcom link
http://www.broadcom.com/products/technology/mobmm_videocore.php
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The SGY and the SGAi does not have a separate GPU chip.
Instead it has a Broadcom BCM21553 multimedia baseband processor, that not only has an integrated ARM11 processor running at 832mhz, but also a separate GPU within the same architecture. The same as the Qualcomm msm7227 and Adreno 200 chip.
While Qualcom chips are classed as "system-on-a-chip". The one chip die that handles the processing, graphics processing, usb interface, camera sound.
The Broadcom classes its chip as a '3G phone-on-a-chip'. Im assuming, reading the literature, that this chip takes care of the Processing, Graphics, 2G, 3G data connection and voice data........ although it doesn't mention anything about usb interfaces ect.
It also dose mention that it supports OpenGL 2.0
info from here
http://www.broadcom.com/products/Cellular/3G-Baseband-Processors/BCM21553
and here
http://www.broadcom.com/products/Mobile-Multimedia/Mobile-Multimedia-Processors/BCM2763
VideoCore Wiki link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VideoCore
Video Core Broadcom link
http://www.broadcom.com/products/technology/mobmm_videocore.php
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Then why somehow benchmarks and system informations say that its extreamly crappy if its capable of 1080p video?
http://www.glbenchmark.com/compare....30i Galaxy Ace&D2=Samsung GT-S5830 Galaxy Ace
Look at GL_EXTENSIONS it doesn't even support something as old as cube maps that were introduced in 1996 or tiled rendering or paletted textures and the max texure resolution is 2048.
So correction its DirectX 6.1 VS DirectX 9c. :laugh:
According to this website it does support OpenGL ES 2.0 so i was wrong about that.
tomsons26 said:
Then why somehow benchmarks and system informations say that its extreamly crappy if its capable of 1080p video?
http://www.glbenchmark.com/compare....30i Galaxy Ace&D2=Samsung GT-S5830 Galaxy Ace
Look at GL_EXTENSIONS it doesn't even support something as old as cube maps that were introduced in 1996 or tiled rendering or paletted textures and the max texure resolution is 2048.
So correction its DirectX 6.1 VS DirectX 9c. :laugh:
According to this website it does support OpenGL ES 2.0 so i was wrong about that.
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There must be some code missing from the kernel limiting the capabilities if the chip. Damn Samsung. Which is why we don't have a complete kernel to compile.
Imagine if we had a "fully working" kernel....... It would compete with their more expensive products.
Here is an article and Youtube video I've found showing the awesomeness of the Videocore gpu (its dated 2009 and shows Videocore III not the new Videocore IV that our phone supposedly has).
http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile...-video-and-gaming-to-mobile-devices-20090112/
I think that the SGAi and SGY are a base model to see how this chip performs in the real world, and future phones made by Samsung will be using this chipset to its full potential, and that might be why they haven't released a fully working kernel.
Then again this is all speculation and i could be wrong.
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There must be some code missing from the kernel limiting the capabilities if the chip. Damn Samsung. Which is why we don't have a complete kernel to compile.
Imagine if we had a "fully working" kernel....... It would compete with their more expensive products.
Here is an article and Youtube video I've found showing the awesomeness of the Videocore gpu (its dated 2009 and shows Videocore III not the new Videocore IV that our phone supposedly has).
http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile...-video-and-gaming-to-mobile-devices-20090112/
I think that the SGAi and SGY are a base model to see how this chip performs in the real world, and future phones made by Samsung will be using this chipset to its full potential, and that might be why they haven't released a fully working kernel.
Then again this is all speculation and i could be wrong.
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I think you are right. Videocore 4 seems to be something better than adreno....its for samsung's new age devices. But until and unless we derive its full potential its of no use. We need to pursue samsung to help us in doing that. Is there a way so that they are forced to release it asap?
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I think you are right. Videocore 4 seems to be something better than adreno....its for samsung's new age devices. But until and unless we derive its full potential its of no use. We need to pursue samsung to help us in doing that. Is there a way so that they are forced to release it asap?
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Go to court and sue them
Notice how the nexus 5 lags whilst the galaxy s3 and nexus 10 are smooth?
Nexus 5- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRMnXO8cMgY
Galaxy s3- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjVD0zHygm4
Nexus 10- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxTcbt4sHps
Could this be because the snapdragon is crap or because of optimization?
Well frankly speaking mali 400 is kinda old now, but i guess it still is a decent performer for most of today's games, though some lags r there on some games
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Mali is known for it's good (close to console's) graphics and good power too,though it might be still optimization.
Well,at least,nexus 5 still should run it better.
abhibnl said:
Well frankly speaking mali 400 is kinda old now, but i guess it still is a decent performer for most of today's games, though some lags r there on some games
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Games,which lag on Mali are just unoptimized (a little). I think,if developers of those games will optimize their games better,Mali will probably won't lag even in today's games.
Wow
The fact that the nexus 10 can run that game at that crazy resolution is pretty impressive
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Mali is known for it's good (close to console's) graphics and good power too,though it might be still optimization.
Well,at least,nexus 5 still should run it better.
Games,which lag on Mali are just unoptimized (a little). I think,if developers of those games will optimize their games better,Mali will probably won't lag even in today's games.
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Well we'll hope for the best, these new drivers does work though. Graphics performance is kinda better now
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Mali and exynos are ****** trash compared to Qualcomm CPU's and GPU's Slower at everything. And FYI i haven't met a person with a s3 that doesn't lag, if you argue against you obviously don't use your phone to much.. under load, Exynos sucks. It's that simple. Why do you think the i9505 is a hell of alot more popular than the crappy octa core one? Exynos is a mess, Mali is crap too. #rant
Also we don't really need posts comparing video clips from youtube. It's not a thread we like around here. If you don't like lag, get a HTC One or a iphone. I know i'm dumping this samsung trash called the S3 which i use now for a nexus or a HTC One 2014 models..
yeah it snapdragon 2.3ghz to keep up with the 1.9ghz of exynos
Hey there,bull,calm down. S3 doesn't suck. I use it every day heavily and multitasking,RAM management are amazing. Yeah,I agree,S3 lags in all of new games,but there's a reason. Know it? Because it's old already. Soon 2 years will pass since S3 was released and of course new games will lag on such an old device.
So again,calm down there.
Someone needs to chill
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Mali and exynos are ****** trash compared to Qualcomm CPU's and GPU's Slower at everything. And FYI i haven't met a person with a s3 that doesn't lag, if you argue against you obviously don't use your phone to much.. under load, Exynos sucks. It's that simple. Why do you think the i9505 is a hell of alot more popular than the crappy octa core one? Exynos is a mess, Mali is crap too. #rant
Also we don't really need posts comparing video clips from youtube. It's not a thread we like around here. If you don't like lag, get a HTC One or a iphone. I know i'm dumping this samsung trash called the S3 which i use now for a nexus or a HTC One 2014 models..
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Don't be an idiot. The Exynos on the S3 is far superior to the Qualcomm version. The Exynos version had a quad-core CPU vs. dual-core for the Qualcomm version. That's what the OP is talking about and you just sound like an immature little teenager.
On the S4, it's a different story because Samsung's big.LITTLE was poorly implemented on the Exynos. However, on the new Galaxy Note 3, Exynos is just as good, if not better than the Qualcomm 800. And when Samsung updates the chipset with octa-core capability, it has the potential to surpass the competition significantly.
As for your idiotic argument of popularity, Samsung decides which regions will receive Exynos chips based on LTE availability and Qualcomm's licensing restrictions. It's not based on popularity, it's based on patents and licensing costs.
I don't have any lag on my S3 and I happen to like comparisons of different chipsets, even from YouTube. You aren't qualified to speak on everyone's behalf and I appreciate this thread which asks a perfectly fine question.
I think mali and snapdragon are sort of budget type processors whereas qualcomm and exynos(some models) are the higher end of things
Mali=Exynos
Snapdragon=Qualcomm
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Snapdragon=Qualcomm
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What?
Mali is a GPU whereas Exynos is the CPU. The Exynos version of the S4 didn't have a Mali GPU, it had a PowerVR one.
And to whoever said the S3 had perfect RAM management and multitasking: that couldn't be further from the truth.
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What?
Mali is a GPU whereas Exynos is the CPU.
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See post above mine. I was trying to clear up the assumption that Exynos, Qualcomm, Snapdragon and Mali were all different chipsets.
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See post above mine. I was trying to clear up the assumption that Exynos, Qualcomm, Snapdragon and Mali were all different chipsets.
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Yes but you made the wrongful assumption that mali is something that just goes with exynos. Exynos is made by Samsung while Mali is made by ARM and not even by Samsung at all
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Mali and exynos are ****** trash compared to Qualcomm CPU's and GPU's Slower at everything. And FYI i haven't met a person with a s3 that doesn't lag, if you argue against you obviously don't use your phone to much.. under load, Exynos sucks. It's that simple. Why do you think the i9505 is a hell of alot more popular than the crappy octa core one? Exynos is a mess, Mali is crap too. #rant
Also we don't really need posts comparing video clips from youtube. It's not a thread we like around here. If you don't like lag, get a HTC One or a iphone. I know i'm dumping this samsung trash called the S3 which i use now for a nexus or a HTC One 2014 models..
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i own nexus 4 htc one and exynos s3. u re just kidding urself. try gta vice city , san andreas on a adreno phone atleast try on one and nexus 4 im %100 sure they will lag i use one as daily driver. all you will see is lag. i didnt see any game laging on exynos s3 yet. asphalt 8 full graphics s3 30+fps one 20+ fps. because adreno just fails with thermal throtting. and dont realy have great drivers to work with. like on htc one you are playing most wanted working on 30+ fps 15 mins gaming and you will see laging low fps drops to 10 to 20 i tested like every game with fps meter on all 3 phones.
all you are talking about lag is simple fail touchwiz launcher its not about processer or gpu. yes one is runing smoother (2013 phone it should) because sense launcher doesnt get kicked from ram like touchwiz. it doesnt make processor good or bad it just makes launcher is bad. just remove bloatware on a s3 and use nova launcher and make it stay on ram. and you will see lag is gone .
i use this 3 phones like everyday but one most and its not smoother cuz of its processor its about sense. and its worse than exynos s3 on gaming because adreno 320 and 1080p not the best combination.
my girlfriend has nexus 5 and san andreas just lags. mali (Arm) still works better with games adreno just fails on real life performance. im using nexus 4 for 1 year and htc one for 7 months now.
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i own nexus 4 htc one and exynos s3. u re just kidding urself. try gta vice city , san andreas on a adreno phone atleast try on one and nexus 4 im %100 sure they will lag i use one as daily driver. all you will see is lag. i didnt see any game laging on exynos s3 yet. asphalt 8 full graphics s3 30+fps one 20+ fps. because adreno just fails with thermal throtting. and dont realy have great drivers to work with. like on htc one you are playing most wanted working on 30+ fps 15 mins gaming and you will see laging low fps drops to 10 to 20 i tested like every game with fps meter on all 3 phones.
all you are talking about lag is simple fail touchwiz launcher its not about processer or gpu. yes one is runing smoother (2013 phone it should) because sense launcher doesnt get kicked from ram like touchwiz. it doesnt make processor good or bad it just makes launcher is bad. just remove bloatware on a s3 and use nova launcher and make it stay on ram. and you will see lag is gone .
i use this 3 phones like everyday but one most and its not smoother cuz of its processor its about sense. and its worse than exynos s3 on gaming because adreno 320 and 1080p not the best combination.
my girlfriend has nexus 5 and san andreas just lags. mali (Arm) still works better with games adreno just fails on real life performance. im using nexus 4 for 1 year and htc one for 7 months now.
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I dont know wether your results are true or not.But your post make me feel like a proud owner of s3.
Theshawty said:
What?
And to whoever said the S3 had perfect RAM management and multitasking: that couldn't be further from the truth.
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Why so? I have this phone,and I use it everyday,so I know what I'm talking about.
Iqbal Ansari said:
I dont know wether your results are true or not.But your post make me feel like a proud owner of s3.
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He's talking absolute truth,which people don't want to believe to.
AssassinGEO said:
Why so? I have this phone,and I use it everyday,so I know what I'm talking about.
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*sigh*
:banghead:
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Theshawty said:
*sigh*
:banghead:
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What's up? Maybe I misunderstood something? English isn't my native language,my apologies.