The reason I ask this is because this phone has been the experimental phone for all new ports.
If anyone knows if this is even possible, enlighten me
Thanks
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the only thing that I can say is
even if this is possible apple will f****k us all
so lets get used to winmo wp7 android ubuntu and...(I got tired)
Not possible...well at least not now.
Someone would have to decompile and decrypt the whole firmware and rebuild it for the HD2 with the proper drivers. It'd be very difficult, since Apple's firmware isn't open source.
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Not possible...well at least not now.
Someone would have to decompile and decrypt the whole firmware and rebuild it for the HD2 with the proper drivers. It'd be very difficult, since Apple's firmware isn't open source.
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sorry to bring this to you but thats total bs.
What do u think wp7 is?
That is not open source eighter..
Everything is possible. The only thing we need is a damn smart dev.
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sorry to bring this to you but thats total bs.
What do u think wp7 is?
That is not open source eighter..
Everything is possible. The only thing we need is a damn smart dev.
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I never said WP7 was open source. I know it's not open source, but no devs are working on iOS to try to port it, so atm it's not possible. Also WP7 is more open than iOS. Windows 7 isn't open source, but you can do registry hacks and customize it more. With Mac you can't really. No one is going to put in the effort to port iOS. So sorry to bring this to YOU, it's not total bs.
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I never said WP7 was open source. I know it's not open source, but no devs are working on iOS to try to port it, so atm it's not possible. Also WP7 is more open than iOS. Windows 7 isn't open source, but you can do registry hacks and customize it more. With Mac you can't really. No one is going to put in the effort to port iOS. So sorry to bring this to YOU, it's not total bs.
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you actually feel offended.
You think the WP7 port was easy, forget it.
it can be done, only one man must be willing to do it..
okay if everybody shoots of an idea at first sight then things are never gonna happen, that's one thing I know for sure.
So don't feel offended, I'm just correcting your statement. If you don't like iOS than don't reply to this thread.
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you actually feel offended.
You think the WP7 port was easy, forget it.
it can be done, only one man must be willing to do it..
okay if everybody shoots of an idea at first sight then things are never gonna happen, that's one thing I know for sure.
So don't feel offended, I'm just correcting your statement. If you don't like iOS than don't reply to this thread.
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James_Caliber is correct. You can't compare running WP7 on the HD2 to running iOS on the HD2. The HD2 version of WP7 was built to run on hardware that is basically the same as the HD2. iOS is not, so it would need a complete recode of all the drivers, which would mean decompiling the entire OS.
Anyway, on-topic, I don't know of any dev even interested in doing this (I'm not saying there aren't any - just that I know of none). I think the vast majority of people that use this forum are not interested in iOS, and by vast majority I do not mean everyone, so responding "I want it" doesn't change the validity of the statement.
look the way iOS is build is totally different then WP7,
but you guys go offroad, the OP his question is: is it possible?
so I say yes, it is. will somebody do it? maybe your right, maybe nobody will..
Thanks for all the answers folks!
I'm just seeking answer from fellow XDA forum lover and had no intention or whatsoever to create tension for anyone who's willing to answer my question.
I really appreciate all feedbacks & answers, folks
Thanks again
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you actually feel offended.
You think the WP7 port was easy, forget it.
it can be done, only one man must be willing to do it..
okay if everybody shoots of an idea at first sight then things are never gonna happen, that's one thing I know for sure.
So don't feel offended, I'm just correcting your statement. If you don't like iOS than don't reply to this thread.
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Where did you get the idea that I don't like iOS? I am no fan boy of any OS and I think it's a pretty nice OS, just too closed and missing some features. I don't feel offended, I just know what I'm talking about lol.
It would be hell harder than porting WP7 to HD2.
Also, I think that Apple would sue us all for even thinking of doing such things .
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Dear community,
I humbly express my opinion that except few ROMS on this page (Energy, RRE & Shep's) the rest are basically garbage..
Stop wasting your time and if you have programming skills (I don't), try to port Android on Raphael. I mean Please Focus on something everybody can use. Windows is going nowhere.. and Android is here with big promises.
I believe Raphael is too much of a device for a crippled OS like Windows. I am sure there are millions of people would think the same way.
WinMo:
Still 65K colors, buggy like Bill Gates, sweaty like Steve Balmer.. Touch Pro is one of the coolest devices one can own, but with an ugly ass OS, it becomes completely useless. WinMo has completed it's lifecycle.. 6.5 has no major pluses over 6.1 even 5.0.. The MS mentality for programming needs a communist revolution.
I will try to stick around.. I am sure there will be a huge success if skilled developers focus on porting Android on HTC devices and will make our devices more useful..
Thank you all, especially the aforementioned chéfs.
I don't want Android OS on my Raphael. 65k is enough, I don't have any bugs (using latest official HTC ROM), I have tons of great, useful applications for WM and I do think that WM is the most powerful platform of all. iPhone and Symbian possibilities are ridicioulus comparing with WinMo, and Android is still new...
wow dude, shut up.
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Me or him?
Even though I like android (had it on my kaiser), I still prefer windows mobile. Its just so customizable. But the more choices we have the better, so I say if we can then lets do it.
But to say only the 3 listed roms are good is a little narrow-minded and disrespectful. I have tried a lot of roms and I believe they are very good in their own ways. Like the Mystic Roms were a favorite before, for great aesthetics and battery life. Or the Louzeberry, very original... and thats just those two.
Hope you understand that not everyone has one taste in roms that's why we have so many, and all the chef's deserve a little praise for their hard work.
I'd like to see android on fuze/touch pro, if for nothing other than more freedom of choice and general competition.
More competition makes for better innovation.
You know, i'm quite tempted to make a "madlib" from your post, changing around a few nouns here and there would make it alot more accurate
But i'll refrain from that and just laugh at you for making such an audacious demand under the guise of an 'opinion'
You really want this? Start learning. I'm more than happy to help you learn what you need to accomplish this. Demanding we all spend our time how YOU want, that's not getting you anywhere
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I believe its to the author of this thread, for the rudeness toward the small chefs.
Go ahead and get started on it KoolTurk. WinMo Chefs have their preferences and so do you. What is holding you back?
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Dear community,
I humbly express my opinion that except few ROMS on this page (Energy, RRE & Shep's) the rest are basically garbage..
Stop wasting your time and if you have programming skills (I don't), try to port Android on Raphael. I mean Please Focus on something everybody can use. Windows is going nowhere.. and Android is here with big promises.
I believe Raphael is too much of a device for a crippled OS like Windows. I am sure there are millions of people would think the same way.
WinMo:
Still 65K colors, buggy like Bill Gates, sweaty like Steve Balmer.. Touch Pro is one of the coolest devices one can own, but with an ugly ass OS, it becomes completely useless. WinMo has completed it's lifecycle.. 6.5 has no major pluses over 6.1 even 5.0.. The MS mentality for programming needs a communist revolution.
I will try to stick around.. I am sure there will be a huge success if skilled developers focus on porting Android on HTC devices and will make our devices more useful..
Thank you all, especially the aforementioned chéfs.
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Wow, this seems terribly rude.... if that is your OPINION why not keep it to yourself. Use what you want to off of the forum and don't use the rest...
That is quite a statement coming from someone wih 3 posts . Have you actually tried all of the ROMs here? Or did you start a new account just to come in and rattle cages? Good luck with your project, I'm sure we'll all be tryin it out once you get it ported smart guy
Demanding something like this with 3 post and no history on xda what so ever...dude you got some balls lol, and about android, it already been workt on by various dev groups, so just sit tight and stfu.
Regards
rafyvitto
Oh hey, look at that: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=RaphaelLinux
Your opinion is obviously very ignorant. Go take some computer science classes and come back when you know what you're talking about.
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I believe its to the author of this thread, for the rudeness toward the small chefs.
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small chefs such as da_g
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small chefs such as da_g
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I knew that statement would come back and bite me in the ass (sorry Da_G and others), just thought everyone read it and it was to late to change
I had a mental block, and couldn't remember any chefs' names.
So I apologize to all you LARGE Chefs
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Dear community,
I'm an idiot and should never post again.
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Cool story bro
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the rest are basically garbage..
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This post is garbage. To come on here and talk trash about other peoples hard work, whether you prefer that work or not, is just asinine. You dont like what these guys have to offer? DONT COME HERE!
One more thing:
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I will try to stick around..
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PLEASE dont!
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You know, i'm quite tempted to make a "madlib" from your post, changing around a few nouns here and there would make it alot more accurate
But i'll refrain from that and just laugh at you for making such an audacious demand under the guise of an 'opinion'
You really want this? Start learning. I'm more than happy to help you learn what you need to accomplish this. Demanding we all spend our time how YOU want, that's not getting you anywhere
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I agree, this guy sounds like a total douche bag and deserves nothing. How's that for a Christmas gift? The people on these forums are doing everyone a favor by creating these ROMs... these ROMS are free and are created on people's spare time, show some f-ing respect.
-1^100 for not doing a more research and dissing the great work done here in the Raphael ROM Forum.
I would like to start an project to port the Windows Phone 7 UI to Android(Including Launcher and some basic utilities like mail/dialer/contacts/music/etc.), not just a theme using LauncherPro or ADW Launcher. Everybody can contribute to this in any way possible. So let the work begin and hope to see your contributions to this one as soon as possible.I will keep updating this thread every day in order to keep things in order. Good Luck!
What do I need?
1) Programmers
2) Designers
3) Beta testers: atomfix, JKshowman, Sellitus, MStott, nickiberli
P.S. Remember all who choose to contribute to this project please P.M me or post what are you willing to do in order to assign task based on your current skills.
MOD EDIT: thread close.
this thread is now here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=818607
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I don't know man
Not to knock solid out of the box thinking but working hard to get microsoft-born things onto Android phones... just doesn't feel right. Have you no sense of rivalry?
Now doing something along the lines of the opposite, different story.
TheRedDrake said:
I would like to start an project to port the Windows 7 UI to Android(Including Launcher and some basic utilities like mail/dialer/contacts/music/etc.), not just a theme using LauncherPro or ADW Launcher. Everybody can contribute to this in any way possible. So let the work begin and hope to see your contributions to this one as soon as possible.I will keep updating this thread every day in order to keep things in order. Good Luck!
P.S. Remember all who choose to contribute to this project please P.M me or post what are you willing to do in order to assign task based on your current skills.
Desire Thread:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8792538#post8792538
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No thanks.
why do we need to bring a Win7 mask? while we even better
MICROSOFT HA HA NO NO
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this guy is high on some bad weed or something
I don't see anything wrong with this. He didn't say port the OS over, he said just the look Did anyone scoff at MIUI? Anyway, this really is a theme request, which I believe as already been done.
This looks like more fun
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=813234
you are correct Evil
You gotta love all the Android fanbois that wince at the very mention of Microsoft. Is Ballmer really all that scary?
So tell me, what video game system do yall use? lol
Hatin' on Microsoft because you think it's cool now that you're an Android fanboy is incredibly stupid.
At first, I didn't like the WP7 interface but the more I've seen it, the more useful it seems. Don't be surprised if you see a bunch of Android fanboys go back to WP7. It already has advantages over Android out of the box - like Exchange support that doesn't suck.
I'd love to see a WP7 launcher.
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Hatin' on Microsoft because you think it's cool now that you're an Android fanboy is incredibly stupid.
At first, I didn't like the WP7 interface but the more I've seen it, the more useful it seems. Don't be surprised if you see a bunch of Android fanboys go back to WP7. It already has advantages over Android out of the box - like Exchange support that doesn't suck.
I'd love to see a WP7 launcher.
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I love android, don't get me wrong. I would just like a clean UI. After all that's the beauty of android it's free to customize any way you want, NO ISUCKERS.
I wouldn't bother
i would LOVE to have such a clean and cool ui for android...
no more desktop/icons from the pc style
unfortunately i have no programming or designing skills...but shure i can provide feedback and ideas
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i would LOVE to have such a clean and cool ui for android...
no more desktop/icons from the pc style
unfortunately i have no programming or designing skills...but shure i can provide feedback and ideas
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You and the other 99% of xda users lol.
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I love android, don't get me wrong. I would just like a clean UI. After all that's the beauty of android it's free to customize any way you want, NO ISUCKERS.
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Does anyone else find it funny that the iPhone interface looks ancient in comparison to Android and Windows Phone 7?
*snicker*
I really think Microsoft has a winner with that interface. I'm not sure on the OS or what the market/developer acceptance will be yet, but I'll pick one up to compare to Android.
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You and the other 99% of xda users lol.
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well actually i've studied 5 years programming in pascal and c++ languages, so i know the basics...but i've understood that it's not my job, too boring for me
sorry for the OT
I love Android and I still think this is a cool idea. Besides, why dis the man's idea
if you don't like it just don't help.
Also the other windows based theme is based off of Win7 for the desktop,
not windows phone 7.
And to the OP this may need to be in the themes section,
but we'll leave that to the mods.
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Does anyone else find it funny that the iPhone interface looks ancient in comparison to Android and Windows Phone 7?
*snicker*
I really think Microsoft has a winner with that interface. I'm not sure on the OS or what the market/developer acceptance will be yet, but I'll pick one up to compare to Android.
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true...my sim card wants to **** an omnia7 right now
Ok, yes i know this question has been asked countless number of times,but is this possible??.
the reason why i would like to have this OS is for the apps and games.
If there is no one out there willing to do this port, thn pls give me a clue on how i could do so, i wouldn't mind spending some free time porting this OS i just need to know how to do it
And pls no clever comments about how this is a stupid question, and u dont want it blah blah blah
thx
pm me if u could tell me how i would start this
Lmao!!!! Ooohhh wow, you made my day man... Thanks!!
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Lmao!!!! Ooohhh wow, you made my day man... Thanks!!
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lol well tht didnt completely piss me off
why not
Just like putting horses power in Donkey A......., lol
i rule123 said:
Ok, yes i know this question has been asked countless number of times,but is this possible??.
the reason why i would like to have this OS is for the apps and games.
If there is no one out there willing to do this port, thn pls give me a clue on how i could do so, i wouldn't mind spending some free time porting this OS i just need to know how to do it
And pls no clever comments about how this is a stupid question, and u dont want it blah blah blah
thx
pm me if u could tell me how i would start this
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While it sounds like a good idea, I think you will have serious issues, with respect to the HD2's hardware vs. the iPhone. Since the OS is closed, and developed for specific hardware, runing it would take reverse enginering the existing drivers and creating all new ones from scratch. This is porbably the biggest hurdle you will face. Not to mention issues with addressing the memory, differances in chip archetecture, and licencing issues, I doubt this will ever come to fuition.
If you like the iOS so much, get a ipod touch to use with your phone (Over WiFi Teather- which is what I do) but I don't think this project will go anywhere
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While it sounds like a good idea, I think you will have serious issues, with respect to the HD2's hardware vs. the iPhone. Since the OS is closed, and developed for specific hardware, runing it would take reverse enginering the existing drivers and creating all new ones from scratch. This is porbably the biggest hurdle you will face. Not to mention issues with addressing the memory, differances in chip archetecture, and licencing issues, I doubt this will ever come to fuition.
If you like the iOS so much, get a ipod touch to use with your phone (Over WiFi Teather- which is what I do) but I don't think this project will go anywhere
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Thx for giving me such a straight answer ,and since u seem to know wht ur talking about, how about making an emulater for the apps? could tht be done?
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Thx for giving me such a straight answer ,and since u seem to know wht ur talking about, how about making an emulater for the apps? could tht be done?
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with enough resources, emulation may be possible, however, I think the overhead of runing an emulator, running an app, would cause teh apps to run very slowly. Most emulators for WM, emulate lesser powered processors (Gameboy, NES, Playstation, DOS, Mac (Old style system 7 Mac Classic),c64) However I think the iphone/ipad probably have a very simmilar chip in terms of speed, to the HD2. While the older hardware may have been inferior, it would still exceede the processing power of existing emulators. Also, you would have to emulate just about everything on a hardware level, which again will slow things down. So while theoretically possible, I will say this is also highly unlikely. I think you would have simmilar issues to porting, and even if solved by emulation, the result would be incredible slow apps.
Again, you can pick up a cheap used touch, and teather with WiFi, and do almost everything an iPhone can do, and much better than emulation could ever do. I will add, WiFi teather is available on the NRG Rom's for the HD2, and works quite well. Also if you are still stock ROM, you may want to flash/upgrade to a custom ROM like the one in my sig...
if i remember correctly Cotulla said that it can be done..
if i remember correctly Cotulla said that it can be done..
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It has been proven that a human being can fall from 34,000 feet without a parachute and survive... The question is "Would you jump from 34,000 feet without a parachute?"...
Airborne Aircrew said:
It has been proven that a human being can fall from 34,000 feet without a parachute and survive... The question is "Would you jump from 34,000 feet without a parachute?"...
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If an iTard's iDevice told them too...prolly yeah. But seriously, porting iOS? To another device? Crazy talk, will never happen. And especially if you don't have any knowledge of programming....and since you are asking for someone to show you how to do it...you obviously don't....I have one thing to say about your question-i lol'd.
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If an iTard's iDevice told them too...prolly yeah. But seriously, porting iOS? To another device? Crazy talk, will never happen. And especially if you don't have any knowledge of programming....and since you are asking for someone to show you how to do it...you obviously don't....I have one thing to say about your question-i lol'd.
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wht an ass -.-
hmm, an emulator would be nice, if only to shove it down an iDrones throat! The number of 'apps' (what happened to calling them 'programs'?) is the only thing they have over us, even if 90%+ are junk.
I've read in several places that upto the 3GS, the processor was about 660 MHz, way slower than the HD2
I've not heard what the iClone4 A4 processor speed is yet.
Interesting idea re the iPod touch, but I don't want to carry a second device & the screen is too small! ;-)
As has been said in every other iOS on the HD2 thread, the kernel is where porting happens, and it IS open source. Also porting the mach kernel has been done before, as both iOS and Mac OS run off it. So yes iOS can be ported to other platforms like the HD2, but apple's legal team would be all over it before anyone got started. The only way not to get sued if it were to happen would be to not distribute the port, the most that could be done would be posting up detailed instructions. But it defeats the purpose if you can't distribute it from the devs to the end user.
LMAO
Who would like to put iOs on such a great smartphone ? I mean a real smartphone ?
Anyway thank you that was funny to read !
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pfft......... I do it all the time......
Im also dual booting iOS and WP7 on my 1995 casio calculator wristwatch.....
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pfft......... I do it all the time......
Im also dual booting iOS and WP7 on my 1995 casio calculator wristwatch.....
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lolsssssssssss
ok my opinion in that is:
1- yes kernel wise it CAN be done
2- it IS nice t say we can do it
3- should we burn time/resources/devs for a NICE thing to do
in my humble opinion HELLLLLLLL NO we have more useful/important/promissing projects like NAND Android
так что там с портатированием, состоится?
Hey, you probably heard that WP7 has been ported on HD2.
Well, that's a great start. But I think we can try it out... Even it would be a lot buggy or slow or anything else... I think if we contact DFT (Dark Forces Team) they might help us out... I know it's near impossible (because of our ARMv6 CPU. == WP7 needs an ARMv7 CPU which HD2 has it.) But it's not impossible completely... Let's do something about it... What do you say devs?
I'm just waiting for the hackers team is to discuss about this. Because I am only new person in the world PHONE.
im will suporter to u all
Come on ,it will be great to run wp7 on topaz
Oh golly, because you demanding it will sure make them motivated.
When you say "Lets do something" you must mean, "I cant do it, can you do it for me?". Why not learn reverse engineering, and then doing something yourself? Because realy, if you want dev's to do all the work for you, you obviously should stick to the Windows-GUI manipulation level, doubt being spoof-feed will help you.
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Oh golly, because you demanding it will sure make them motivated.
When you say "Lets do something" you must mean, "I cant do it, can you do it for me?". Why not learn reverse engineering, and then doing something yourself? Because realy, if you want dev's to do all the work for you, you obviously should stick to the Windows-GUI manipulation level, doubt being spoof-feed will help you.
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First of all, I don't see any reason to answer you directly. In second, I'm a developer but can't do it alone. I'm asking for help. So just keep learning things. You may someday understand what I was asking for.
Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing a port for the Topaz, and I'd probly try it out... But I'm looking forward to the cracking of WP7 on WP7 phones so that I can upgrade to a new phone and not be stuck with that horrible start screen
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First of all, I don't see any reason to answer you directly. In second, I'm a developer but can't do it alone. I'm asking for help. So just keep learning things. You may someday understand what I was asking for.
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I know you have some developing skills, although I dont know if it goes beyond changing the registry and gui-manipulation, but the system-level developers are unlikely to port the Windows 7 to the Topaz, mainly because its a old device now, outdated and slow.
(And I know that you've got some knowledge because I used eclipse for few days, good ROM)
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I know you have some developing skills, although I dont know if it goes beyond changing the registry and gui-manipulation, but the system-level developers are unlikely to port the Windows 7 to the Topaz, mainly because its a old device now, outdated and slow.
(And I know that you've got some knowledge because I used eclipse for few days, good ROM)
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I appreciate that... But as I mentioned above, it's near impossible... Not completely. Your'e right... Topaz has ARMv6 processor... WP7 requires ARMv7. But i'm talking about experiencing it on Topaz... By the way, I agree with oldness of Topaz... I'm gonna buy a Desire HD
It's wishfull thinking and never going to happen. The best us topaz owners can expect to get for our outdated phones is a 100% working Android.
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The best us topaz owners can expect to get for our outdated phones is a 100% working Android.
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And wouldn't that be great!!!!
That ain't true I find that the ui from wp7 is lite and simple. This can easily be ported to our devices with a little magic. But The part of windows live games or xbox live is the part that our devices cant handle. Our devices aren't old they where made cheap by htc and att to cover some sectors of the market. But our devices could have been easily been made with the same stuff as hd2, as few months passed since each launched.
The ui is simpler than ours and faster I think it could be done......just that I need to finish studying by then to make this. And I don't think of waiting is another great idea. As we are shadowed by what could have been if we had a twin processor to hd2's. But, we bought this and I find it great!
And please respect each other!!!!!
I think it's NOT possible because of hardware requirements.
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our device was made of tinking on this.. As I read before it was tought to be ported in form of an upgrade. But it was left in the clouds. And our device have the custom buttons on a new device like android and wp7. Ram can't be a prob. If the UI was made for speed and simplicity. Just the xbox live games won't run properly.
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our device was made of tinking on this.. As I read before it was tought to be ported in form of an upgrade. But it was left in the clouds. And our device have the custom buttons on a new device like android and wp7. Ram can't be a prob. If the UI was made for speed and simplicity. Just the xbox live games won't run properly.
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I agree... But no one is taking TD2 seriously. Because there are at least 2 similar devices (TP2, THD) no one is focusing on TD2. That's why we don't see any salient improvement on Android development. HD2 devs focused on it and made the progress finished soon. I think the best way we can do right now, is contacting Cotulla from DFT. He could help me and other devs. I just don't know how to contact him!
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I agree... But no one is taking TD2 seriously. Because there are at least 2 similar devices (TP2, THD) no one is focusing on TD2. That's why we don't see any salient improvement on Android development. HD2 devs focused on it and made the progress finished soon. I think the best way we can do right now, is contacting Cotulla from DFT. He could help me and other devs. I just don't know how to contact him!
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AH man! I've been focussing on another site. WWW.htc-pure.com, which I am a moderator. And for years I've been here quietly. but I think I will try to move here to help. Lets see what I can do.
wp7 requires ARMv7 instruction set on cpu. but topaz is just ARMv6 i think. that's why I think it's not possible
Moreover, why would you want WP7? The only thing it has going for it is that it runs smoothly and doesn't crash, which it would NOT do if someone did manage to port it. Better off building skins over 6.5.x; that way you could at least retain functionality...
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AH man! I've been focussing on another site. WWW.htc-pure.com, which I am a moderator. And for years I've been here quietly. but I think I will try to move here to help. Lets see what I can do.
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I am waiting, good luck man
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I agree... But no one is taking TD2 seriously. Because there are at least 2 similar devices (TP2, THD) no one is focusing on TD2. That's why we don't see any salient improvement on Android development. HD2 devs focused on it and made the progress finished soon. I think the best way we can do right now, is contacting Cotulla from DFT. He could help me and other devs. I just don't know how to contact him!
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actually, hd2 had devices that only need to be (partially) reverse-engeneered. hell some libs etc worked directly from Desire, cotulla took half of its radio SW to get rmnet data working and ...HD7...well it's hd2 without hardware buttons!...
magldr is child's play and development was over in 2 months but they kept it testing for that time to see how phone will respond to tottaly diffrent os.
now find something like that for Touch(something).
htc was lazy with hardware at the time and hackers took advantage of that.
but these devices nature is so much different that every piece of system would have to be homebrew-and devs struggle with android for a long time with sources and inch from their nose. imagine rewriting even basic parts of kernel to support armv6 without any proper source. i truly can't imagine wp7 being done...
even with few developers, reasonable timeframe would be over year or two!
i own 3 htc phones and one td2 just for fun of it, to see evolution of htc's over the years.. go buy yourself hd2 if you really wish to hack the hell out of your phone. they go really cheap - around $200 - and save yourself time
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actually, hd2 had devices that only need to be (partially) reverse-engeneered. hell some libs etc worked directly from Desire, cotulla took half of its radio SW to get rmnet data working and ...HD7...well it's hd2 without hardware buttons!...
magldr is child's play and development was over in 2 months but they kept it testing for that time to see how phone will respond to tottaly diffrent os.
now find something like that for Touch(something).
htc was lazy with hardware at the time and hackers took advantage of that.
but these devices nature is so much different that every piece of system would have to be homebrew-and devs struggle with android for a long time with sources and inch from their nose. imagine rewriting even basic parts of kernel to support armv6 without any proper source. i truly can't imagine wp7 being done...
even with few developers, reasonable timeframe would be over year or two!
i own 3 htc phones and one td2 just for fun of it, to see evolution of htc's over the years.. go buy yourself hd2 if you really wish to hack the hell out of your phone. they go really cheap - around $200 - and save yourself time
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I agree. I'm moving to iPhone 4 or Sensation or EVO 3D...
Just want to know if anyone else knows about this new app that is in dev at the moment.
It is a way of having a dual boot with ios5 and android
Links -
http://code.google.com/p/bootdroid/
and
http://bootdroid.blogspot.com/
As said in the other thread, Im not sure whether its a fake rip off or a real one. Apple hasn't and wouldn't give source codes for their crap.
And erm, ios would just dirty my phone
Yes, im a fanboy
I am slightly convinced that if might be real, although as said on the blog he has run into some legal problems but thinks he might have found a way around this, I am a Droid fan but this is a show off feature that would be pretty cool.
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s.d.oconnor said:
I am slightly convinced that if might be real, although as said on the blog he has run into some legal problems but thinks he might have found a way around this, I am a Droid fan but this is a show off feature that would be pretty cool.
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Yea, me too. It might be real too for all it matters
Wow it would be really nice to have ios running on my SII. i love android, but showing the fanboys that our device can do both. It's priceless. keep up the good work
im interested in this project mostly because would be nice to test performance on the s2 but then you would run into issues like their retina display, apple would never allow it since there platform is copyright, but luckily this guy is named Anonymous
heres a pic from his blog
http://i44.tinypic.com/24n0eph.jpghttp://i44.tinypic.com/24n0eph.jpg
It would be intresting to see how this would work and i think the galaxy s2 is the perfect phone to test on, but i cant see how he going to get over the legal issues.
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It would be intresting to see how this would work and i think the galaxy s2 is the perfect phone to test on, but i cant see how he going to get over the legal issues.
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If he could create a script or program that could take an IPSW (Firmware file) and make it "android ready" for lack of a better term, he would be completely safe. As the user would be downloading the IPSW and supplying it not him. Also the IPSW are available freely on Apple's site so they couldn't come after the users at that point at all. He just has to find a way to do that (not going to be easy).
Also iOS source is available on apple's dev site for anyone to look at it. It's just mostly copywrited (besides the BSD portions). I'm not sure if all of it's there but I have looked at some of it in the past for hints to exploits for jailbreaking.
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If he could create a script or program that could take an IPSW (Firmware file) and make it "android ready" for lack of a better term, he would be completely safe. As the user would be downloading the IPSW and supplying it not him. Also the IPSW are available freely on Apple's site so they couldn't come after the users at that point at all. He just has to find a way to do that (not going to be easy).
Also iOS source is available on apple's dev site for anyone to look at it. It's just mostly copywrited (besides the BSD portions). I'm not sure if all of it's there but I have looked at some of it in the past for hints to exploits for jailbreaking.
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Well he has been quiet for a while, so maybe that is what he is working on, i am no dev so wouldent have any idea of how long a process like that would take.
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Well he has been quiet for a while, so maybe that is what he is working on, i am no dev so wouldent have any idea of how long a process like that would take.
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I have some development background, and from my knowledge of iOS and ARM Devices this would be quite a task if this is what he is doing.
I really want to believe this is real but I just found a link from github by someone called Peter42 who freshly uploaded a "BootDroid" code.
Last update to his blog dated 24 March is the same date the files were uploaded.
I have a Motorola Xoom and believe I can't test them.
Could anyone (for God's sake!) confirm whether they were real or not?
If possible, I already downloaded the files and would upload them for you in case original was removed.
this should be awesome, running ios in the powerfull SII... just for shutup the izombies xP
Even better, the upcoming Galaxy SIII!
But for real, can anyone try that?
I just ran the installation process on my Motorola Xoom and didn't notice any difference like a new app nor by or through restarting.
I'm kinda hyped up on this and would love to brag about how Android is superior to iOS if it was true
I heard about this and i think the guy plans to do it by vnc so just displaying the iPhone screen over internet
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I heard about this and i think the guy plans to do it by vnc so just displaying the iPhone screen over internet
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I seen that on his blog, i hope he dosent take that route for this development as that is somthing i couldent use or want to really.
waaaavvv great project
where is the download link?
OMG
Oh my GOD, this can not be true ... ,i can not belive, ios running on the most powerful smartphone ever built, i can not belive that ... honestly. This a dream, someone tell me that's a dream ... . I can't wait to test the stable version! iOS on Samsung Galaxy S II. Guys do you realise what that means? This is something fantastic, awesome. Can't wait. Keep workin guys till the stable version. Many of us will be so so so so happy! Keep it up!
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waaaavvv great project
where is the download link?
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It is not avaible to download yet as he is working on some problems before an alpha release, and their are some legal issues to got over. Also the dev has been calla fraud by some, it is not know if this is true or not but i belive the project is true.
ismailykr said:
waaaavvv great project
where is the download link?
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allocen said:
Oh my GOD, this can not be true ... ,i can not belive, ios running on the most powerful smartphone ever built, i can not belive that ... honestly. This a dream, someone tell me that's a dream ... . I can't wait to test the stable version! iOS on Samsung Galaxy S II. Guys do you realise what that means? This is something fantastic, awesome. Can't wait. Keep workin guys till the stable version. Many of us will be so so so so happy! Keep it up!
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I don't really know if this was the link to the program or not though it's called the same.
But as I said before, these files were uploaded the day he last updated his post.
You can download it from there.
I don't really know how this should work since it doesn't even have iOS firmware files but I figured someone with a supported device could try and see for himself.
Nothing appeared on my Xoom at all which is not supported!
And, you can uninstall it from the same installation wizard.
Hi everybody !
Sorry for my english, I'm french.
I am really interested on this application, so I wonder if somebody has already succed in make it working ?
I' ve downloaded the Zip package on the website shared on the link below, but I don't understand how to instal it...
I think that even if it's possible to run iOs and Adroid on a Iphone, it woould be difficult to do the same on a androphone beacause iOs in not an open source system ...
Can somebody help me please ?
Thanks to you guys