Wondering if anyone has been able to do this, and if not, if they'd be able to get this working on the device:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=619285
I tried a few things based on my limited knowledge, but I had no luck.
I am trying the same thing as you are trying, only trying to get Android into the Mogul's internal memory (to replace WinMo), per the instructions found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=636024
Would love any thoughts folks in the know might have.
sd_matto said:
I am trying the same thing as you are trying, only trying to get Android into the Mogul's internal memory (to replace WinMo), per the instructions found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=636024
Would love any thoughts folks in the know might have.
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Yea only one really big problem with running NAND Android on the Mogul (Titan). That link is for the Touch (Vogue).
We are stuck with the SD method for now. And anything above 1.6 runs really slow.
RyanMogul6800 said:
Yea only one really big problem with running NAND Android on the Mogul (Titan). That link is for the Touch (Vogue).
We are stuck with the SD method for now. And anything above 1.6 runs really slow.
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Good to know. I was wondering at the speed of the higher versions on the Titan. I think it would be cool to dual boot one of your ROMs with a 1.6 build.
Is anyone working on a NAND Android for the Titan?
i hope so... i got myns warm donut to work fine on my titan, but i had to do it from the sd card.. i figure all we need is a .nbh file, and we can nand this!
I have mssmison's eclair v7 (android 2.1) running off my SD card at a decent speed, i was suprised. its just about as fast as mym's warm donut build. im running a custom default.txt file and the eclair zimage and it seems to work well, not the fastest (fastest is probably the 1.5 ion build) but it works.
just outta curiosity (im a vogue user)
trying to help a friend with a mogul out.
You guys have a class 6 microsd? or is it class 4.
Speed ok with anything below a class 6 microsd?
Also did you guys partition it? ext2 or swap?
I really hope someone can add nand to the mogul.
im using a old class 2 microSD card, slow as hell but it dosent run extremely slow, i partioned ext2 and it ran at decent speeds, i want a better SD card so i can really see how android would run on the mogul but i dont have the money to (odviously or i wouldnt be using such a out of date piece of hardware)
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I have mssmison's eclair v7 (android 2.1) running off my SD card at a decent speed, i was suprised. its just about as fast as mym's warm donut build. im running a custom default.txt file and the eclair zimage and it seems to work well, not the fastest (fastest is probably the 1.5 ion build) but it works.
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Did you have to flash the NBH file to your phone to use this? If not could you post all the files you use?
I'm currently using the initial 1.5 version which is basic. It doesn't require flashing any files. All the files you need are just placed on the sd card.
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Did you have to flash the NBH file to your phone to use this? If not could you post all the files you use?
I'm currently using the initial 1.5 version which is basic. It doesn't require flashing any files. All the files you need are just placed on the sd card.
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um i dont think you can flash android on moguls yet; therefore no nbh can be used. I know nbh is becoming the newer way to have android on either nand or sd but the support isnt there yet for moguls.
The way the person above is using androind on the mogul is through the sd card. You have to (similar to the way you're using android on your phone now). I believe you are using haret.exe. Anyways to FULLY maximize performance for android on sd card, you have to partition the sd card (divide the sd card).
They way you're using it right now is only 1 partition (lets say you have a 2GB SD card formated to fat32 or ntfs).
However to make android run at decent speeds, you have to partition (divide that 2GB SD Card into 3 parts).
2GB SD card gets broken down and split up into:
*256MB formated to ext2 (instead of fat32)
*Another 256MB formated to ext2
*1536MB formated to FAT32 (where you put your data normally)
After you partitioned the sd card..... you now install android (instead of running it like you've been)
You run haret.exe as usual but theres and option to copy data and systemto the ex2 partitions you made on the sd card.
the 2 ext2 partitions above will be contain the android data and system files
and will make android run faster because android files are all in that partition and it doesnt have to search and filter through your user files.
In my signature theres a video on how to partition your sd card.... but you have to figure out how to get your sd card to detect on your computer..(via card reader or other methods)
Thanks for the info intimidatorx31. That helps out tremendously. However, on the newer builds of android that are posted, instead of having the traditional system.img and rootfs.img files there is an androidinstaller.tar. Do I now use that? Also, which files go on each of the 3 partitions? On all of the directions I've found have only stated to put the downloaded files in the "andboot" folder.
Marbieskarb said:
Thanks for the info intimidatorx31. That helps out tremendously. However, on the newer builds of android that are posted, instead of having the traditional system.img and rootfs.img files there is an androidinstaller.tar. Do I now use that? Also, which files go on each of the 3 partitions? On all of the directions I've found have only stated to put the downloaded files in the "andboot" folder.
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You're right; forgot everything has moved to andboot folder setup with no more roofts as well.
Well the android rom im using (Myn's warm donut for the vogue) has
the classic sqsh files which is what YOU need to run it off sd card using haret.exe (running off sd card).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=619980
this is where the thread is
Heres the direct link to dwonload:http://download203.mediafire.com/9k22dfx80ymg/kzyxtqkzcwa/myn-WarmDonut-03-16-2010-SQSH.zip
for additional instructions go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=648045
Remember if you are using off sd card its highly recommended to partition the sd card; so it doesnt have to search the entire sd card...itll just have to search within that partition you've created (ext2 partition which is recognized by android)
Thanks again for the info.
Lost trying to get Android 2.1 on my Titan!!!
I have mssmison's eclair v7 (android 2.1) running off my SD card at a decent speed, i was suprised. its just about as fast as mym's warm donut build. im running a custom default.txt file and the eclair zimage and it seems to work well, not the fastest (fastest is probably the 1.5 ion build) but it works
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have a few questions if anyone can help:
1. when i go here to get the myns warm donut version post am i supposed to use the SQSH version? if not i should be using the NoMoRootFs 240x320 version correct?
2. how do you install the mssmison's eclair or myn's warm doughnut? I just come back with errors each time.
3. what is the correct setup of the 3 partitions? I used partition manager 9 and made 3 partitions, but when i tried to install android there was no option to choose a partition.
4. is mssmison's more stable than myn's doughnut?
Sorry for all the questions, i'd love to mess around with android, but my last install was the myn's warm doughnut sqsh version, and it was installing for like 2 days....scrolling a bunch of files repeatedly it got up to 53276.1234 until i finally just said forget it, and rebooted. If anyone can help i'd be GREATLY appreciative!!
Thanks Gang!
miraclmoore, read the post a few above mine, it explains how to partion the SD card, and how i did it? custom default.txt, zimage for the mogul and a little technical knowldge, prettymuch all you have to do is put the androidinstall.tar in the andboot folder and run haret.exe then as soon as it vibrates press and hold the center button til the install screen appears, select to put data and system on ext2 and install it, runs with no errors (except completely randomly tty access errors when it first starts but those dont matter)
just wondering.....
nyterage..where did you find the custom default.txt and zimage for the mogul? considering all builds are for vogue, kaiser, and polaris? also when I use myns sqsh the system tries to create a new dataa store instead of just using the sqsh files like i've seen in others installations. I used partition manager 9 to partition my card. also do u need to give the 2 ext partitions drive letters? hope I am not asking stupid question as this is all a little new to me.
So am I completely boned if the down direction on my d pad is doesn't work? I can get to the install menu but then I can;t do anything at it
can someone provide a exact instructions on how to get a ppc 6800 titan.
i have spl-2.40
ppck 23569 image installed.
i couldnt get the android 1.5 to work from the "android packages" thread.
can someone say if this (android 2.1) or if android 1.5 working on the ppc 6800 titan thread.
if it is working please provide an exact instructions on how to get this working with the exact files needed for the sd card method im guessing.
I have the same problem
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So am I completely boned if the down direction on my d pad is doesn't work? I can get to the install menu but then I can;t do anything at it
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Any build I use when I get to the install screen to select where I want to install it, I cannot select anything. Only 2 things I can highlight in the list are install to NAND and quit.
The proper options are selected by default buy I cannot get to menu option 1 to do the install.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
theirs been alot of hype over this but ive been wondering how much it takes
how much does an android build take? wp7? and WinMo 6.5.X? if you were to make an android build and a data image with 250MB ( like on sd builds) and then use sd card for extension on space, and have a partitioned sd card (a 16 GB- 4 or 8GB for wp7 ) then that leaves you with about 10 -12 GB of space for WinMo 6.5.X and android and if they make WinMo Roms that are minimal and the rest for WP7 an when meego is released move the android to sd card and replace it with meego OS or something in that direction (wish it had more space x/ )
im probably completely wrong but someone please clear this up for me
I'm not sure if its possible to have more than 1 os on nand.... but if it can be done, cotulla will figure it out. But I know cotulla is working on wm6.5 that can run off sd, so if that works out, we can have wp7 on nand, and then winmo, android, meego, and ubuntu on sd.
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I'm not sure if its possible to have more than 1 os on nand.... but if it can be done, cotulla will figure it out. But I know cotulla is working on wm6.5 that can run off sd, so if that works out, we can have wp7 on nand, and then winmo, android, meego, and ubuntu on sd.
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THATS AWESOME and with start-up haret coming to magldr it will be basicly nand booting all of them right?
Is it possible to triple boot WP7, WM6.5 and Android?
From what I've read from searching I would presume the answer is no, but is there anyone out there who has any more information on the topic?
WinMo 6.5 still not available as an SD build, same for WP7. One of them should be ported this way, then you´d be fine.
I guess some time and efforts of the great devs behind all those solutions will go into the soon-to-come WP7 update, maybe kind of "blocking" other stuff. But you never know, do you? At least, HSPL4 came out of nowhere...
So an SD build, thats where the OS boot directly from an SD card? So you could just have 3 SD cards, one for each OS?
Wow I've been out of the HD2 game for too long
As of now, the dual boot option runs 1 OS from NAND, then Android, the only one available as SD build, from the memory card.
Since you can make different partitions on an SD card, it could be imaginable to have 2 or even more partitions. At the end, in grey theory, 1 OS from NAND, 2 others from memory card.
Or, even if the partition stuff wouldn´t work, you still might have 1 card with Android, another one with either WP7 or WinMo 6.5 - while one of them runs from NAND again.
There has been some interesting developments recently over at the HD2 forums. Check out the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31110691#post31110691
It is all really new at this point but this seems pretty exciting to me. The thought of being able to run multiple roms off of the SD card, with possibly greater performance than on NAND, makes me drool a little. You could run a winmo base and have OMGB and GBXO* at your disposal with nearly unlimited data size, or it seems even run a NANDroid rom as base with other versions off of SD! (ie GBX0* on NAND with the ability to boot OMGB\CM7.2 from SD)
From the original thread:
securecrt said:
Introduction
We have SD ROMs for very long time, but I think most of the people should agree with me that the SD ROMs are slower than NAND ROMs. because the SD ROMs use system.ext4 and data.ext4 files to store all the ROM contant on the FAT partition, the IO access is the bottleneck.
My Class10 SD card has 10MB/s R/W speed, but the NAND flash R/W speed is only about 4MB/s. so if we can directly install the ROMs to SDCARD and boot from SDCARD we will get lots of benifits:
Faster Read/Write speed than NAND ROMs
Bigger data partition for user space (depends on how big the ext4 partition on SDCARD)
Install servel ROMs at the same time. and each ROM share the same space
Muilt-boot support, easy to switch between the ROMs been installed.
The NativeSD Rom is a new kind of ROM it needs an ext4 partition on your SDCARD.
This thread will tell you how to install a ROM to SDCARD and give some script templates for ROM Devs to make the ROM installer which can support install the ROM to NAND flash or SD/EXT4.
Install the ROM to SD/EXT4 will not effact the ROM(WM or Android) on NAND flash, NativeSD should support run from MAGLDR CLK or WM6.5(need test).
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For the time being this is of course all for the HD2. Now I monkeyed around with this a bit but had no luck on the TP2, since I have no knowledge of what is really going on here! Just thought I would share this because it is an interesting change in porting ideology.
I will be keeping a close eye on that thread waiting for the level of skill involved in getting a similar setup for Rhod to come down to my level! (the sub-basement )
It's basically what Neopeek has been doing for ages. Create native ext* partitions on the SD card, and use those.
I think the real problem is the interface on the RHOD for reading and writing to the SD card isn't so great - so a class 10 card will probably be lost.
Also, I don't know what that guy is talking about - raw linear write or read speed is not what OSes do... they are mostly random read/writes, so you'd want to test SD card performance for that.
I'd like to know if there's a program yet to resize sd card partitions from within Android like gparted.
I'm stuck on an old netbook for now and windows xp doesn't behave with 4.0+ android devices so I'd very much prefer to do it from within android.
I'd like to mention my phone is a rooted LG F60, with the stock rom because nobody cares enough about that phone to cook up some rom that is complete.