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Hi,
I am considering of buying a HD2, and I know the differences between T-mobile version HD2 and HTC version HD2.
I just woundering, what if the ROM of WP7 is larger then 512MB? Does that mean the HTC version HD2 cannot be upgraded to WP7 but the T-mobile version can (hypothetically, both of them can meet other require of WP7)? Or, the size of WP7 Rom is smaller than 512MB for sure, so either of them can be upgraded?
qingqing202 said:
Hi,
I am considering of buying a HD2, and I know the differences between T-mobile version HD2 and HTC version HD2.
I just woundering, what if the ROM of WP7 is larger then 512MB? Does that mean the HTC version HD2 cannot be upgraded to WP7 but the T-mobile version can (hypothetically, both of them can meet other require of WP7)? Or, the size of WP7 Rom is smaller than 512MB for sure, so either of them can be upgraded?
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The HD2 is almost a year old. Do you really want to buy a year old phone now?
Why dont you wait untill true WP7 phones hit the market? Or buy a newer android phone....
Neither phone meets the official requirements of WP7. There will be NO official update. Most probably someone here at XDA will get a non official version working, but allot like the android development it will take months (At best) to perfect.
Just hang on a bit, and buy a native WP7 phone.
Got it.
Thank you for your advice!
qingqing202 said:
I just woundering, what if the ROM of WP7 is larger then 512MB?
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its very unlikely to be anywhere near that size. The leaked WP7 rom for the mondrian is around the same size as a normal winmo 6.5 rom, (without all the branding) , 150 meg or so.
Wp7 hd2 illegal
qingqing202 said:
Hi,
I am considering of buying a HD2, and I know the differences between T-mobile version HD2 and HTC version HD2.
I just woundering, what if the ROM of WP7 is larger then 512MB? Does that mean the HTC version HD2 cannot be upgraded to WP7 but the T-mobile version can (hypothetically, both of them can meet other require of WP7)? Or, the size of WP7 Rom is smaller than 512MB for sure, so either of them can be upgraded?
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Buy HD7, WP7 on HD2 is illegal
abq1230 said:
Buy HD7, WP7 on HD2 is illegal
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I know it voids your warranty, but is it actually illegal to put it on a phone you own?
lonelykatana said:
The HD2 is almost a year old. Do you really want to buy a year old phone now?
Why dont you wait untill true WP7 phones hit the market? Or buy a newer android phone....
Neither phone meets the official requirements of WP7. There will be NO official update. Most probably someone here at XDA will get a non official version working, but allot like the android development it will take months (At best) to perfect.
Just hang on a bit, and buy a native WP7 phone.
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HD2 was one year old but it's hardware is very advance in todays mobile world (576MB RAM & 1GB ROM in T-MOBILE HD2 or 448MB RAM & 512MB ROM in International Version) till todays no any phone compared with HD2... also one more thing, this phone capable for porting many operating system like android, wp7, ubuntu, etc... so it is great phone till today.
Let this be just discussion first...
So today was the Windows Phone 7 announcement and a lot of new devices were announced including the HTC 7 Mozart:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/11/htc-7-mozart-and-7-trophy-set-out-to-conquer-the-wp7-world-7-pr/
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/11/htc-7-mozart-first-hands-on/
Pretty similar hardware and look to our Desire... I know it's early now but do you think that we will be able to port Windows Phone 7 to our Desire? Just for fun... Android is good enough.
Moved to General as not development.
Would be much more difficult since that's 100% reverse engineering 'cause Windows Phone 7 OS is not open source at all. But not impossible, though don't expect any...
EleCtrOx666 said:
Would be much more difficult since that's 100% reverse engineering 'cause Windows Phone 7 OS is not open source at all. But not impossible, though don't expect any...
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Devs here have made wonders, and I think I saw a dev here running WP 7 on an HD 2....
I think we only need some sort of a bootloader... as the hardware is pretty similar it should boot and some parts should work.
I'm also more than satisfied with Android, but hey... as a geek, dual booting my smartphone does have some appeal
Seems unlikely. One of the biggest problems with pouring android to a wm phone is that some of the drivers are in the radio rom and that is closed. So a huge among of work goes into figuring out how to talk to the hardware then coding that into the linux kernel source. In the case of wp7, there will be no source code at all, just binaries. Without haret and debug information, there is no way to start other than flashing the rom and seeing whether it bricks. Maybe if haret got ported out would be a start. (maybe it already has, I didn't look at this for a while).
....speaking about Bravo clones, how about one that runs WinMo 6.5?
http://phonereplica.info/dual-sim/touch-g7-dual-sim-phone-htc-desire-clone.html
....and a video of the action:
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/Un6h1tEL1GE/
rete said:
....speaking about Bravo clones, how about one that runs WinMo 6.5?
http://phonereplica.info/dual-sim/touch-g7-dual-sim-phone-htc-desire-clone.html
....and a video of the action:
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/Un6h1tEL1GE/
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These clones always make me laugh a little. Why don't they just put Android on them? Lol.
I'm 100% sticking with Android but, I'd love to be able to dual boot WP7. You know, just to say I can
This would be hard work!
WP7 ist not OpenSource so creating driver etc is vey heavy!
Side note, anyone know if its going to be SIM free? Orange have the exclusive as an operator but I'm quite tempted to have a look at this...first previews are saying WP7 is VERY fast
Orange will have paid through the nose to get exclusivity of this phone so don't expect to see it sim free for at least a couple of months, they normally have either 6 weeks, 3 months or 6 months exclusive rights before going sim free.
I suppose cause the ROMs are out it could just be debranded, assuming it's not too hard to break the bootloader
given desire and mozart have very similar specs, does that mean there's a good chance android can be ported to mozart? im guessing through some kind of bootloader? anyone working on it?
Wondows 7 on htc desire
I would also love, If My HTC Desire is capable of dual boot on Windows 7 and Android. After having such a good hardware but if it does not support on software then it such hardware is of no use.
ameel said:
given desire and mozart have very similar specs, does that mean there's a good chance android can be ported to mozart? im guessing through some kind of bootloader? anyone working on it?
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Any one found a workaround to this yet? Dual booting is lovely. For this reason, I happen to put a hand on a HD2 with WinMo 6.5 and I can boot Android on it but the phone is not mine, so now Im searching for a good HTC phone that gives me the options to play with.
Hi dear,
I bought my great HTC HD2 for T-Mobile a week ago.
I'm using Android as a daily OS.
It's quite cool and smooth. Actually, it's faster than my old phone, galaxy s.
By the way, I'm wondering if my HD2 will be able to get Windows Phone 7 OS.
Although it will not be official version, will it be possible to be released custom rom?
Please let me know about it. To be honest, I'm really enjoying with Android but
I just want to try New OS.
I have used BlackBerry Bold 9700, Samsung Omnia 2, Nokia N900, Galaxy s and HD2 which will be my destination.lol (ah, ipod touch as well..-_-)
Each OS has totally different system so I've been very exciting using OSes.
atm its not possible to get the WP7 to the HD2
this is because the lack of good drivers for sound, display ect ect
maybe in the near future
I just read an article regarding the Samsung Focus S, basically a Windows Phone 7 version of our beloved Galaxy S II... I was wondering if they have similar hardware inside? And will it be possible for some awesome dev to port the Mango ROM found on it to run on our GS2? Read something here on xda about dualbooting ROM's on the Galaxy S2... Wouldn't it be awesome if you could have both? The HTC HD2 is quite a old device but it can run Android, Windows Mobile and Windows Phone 7 perfectly... Could the same be possible for a Galaxy S2, except the Windows Mobile of course.
Please don't reply things like 'if you wanted WP7 why didn't you buy a WP7 device'. I'm extremely satisfied with my GS2 but if it were possible to see how the other side lives I'd really like to do that. Any thoughts?
As WP7 is not open source, its more or less like illegal to port it to other devices to which it is not intended to run.
The HD2 is a windows phone, so don't forget that! This is the ONLY reason it can run WP7
I also would love to have that option, if nothing else, to just try WP7. Would also be willing to donate, though I understand the awesome developers don't do it for money.
pietpodlood said:
I just read an article regarding the Samsung Focus S, basically a Windows Phone 7 version of our beloved Galaxy S II... I was wondering if they have similar hardware inside? And will it be possible for some awesome dev to port the Mango ROM found on it to run on our GS2? Read something here on xda about dualbooting ROM's on the Galaxy S2... Wouldn't it be awesome if you could have both? The HTC HD2 is quite a old device but it can run Android, Windows Mobile and Windows Phone 7 perfectly... Could the same be possible for a Galaxy S2, except the Windows Mobile of course.
Please don't reply things like 'if you wanted WP7 why didn't you buy a WP7 device'. I'm extremely satisfied with my GS2 but if it were possible to see how the other side lives I'd really like to do that. Any thoughts?
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WP7 is not compatible with the Galaxy S2 proccessor. But WP7 is made almost exclusively for Qualcomm processors. So, don't ever expect a WP7 mango port for Galaxy S2.
Since WP7 is not opensource, the custom ROMs and ports are just repacked existing ROMs with minor modifications or mix and match different ROMs. Since there is no WP7 phones running on similar hardware, this is not possible on Galaxy S2.
As, for HD2, it's hardware is similar to most WP7 phones with HD7 being almost same hardware has HD2 with just minor change.
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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TheSobadef said:
The HD2 is a windows phone, so don't forget that! This is the ONLY reason it can run WP7
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The fact that it is possible to run WP7 has nothing to do with the fact that it is shipped with Windows Phone.
It is unlikely that it will ever be ported to our device. Sad but true. Sad because WP7 is a great platform and it would be great to have Android and WP7 on our device.
thanks for all the reply's, it is quite sad though that this will likely never happen... oh well, we still have the phone of the year...
Oh and sorry for posting in the wrong section... my bad...
if you wanted WP7 why didn't you buy a WP7 device
mcardielo said:
if you wanted WP7 why didn't you buy a WP7 device
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Why would you ever buy a Windows phone XD
mcardielo said:
if you wanted WP7 why didn't you buy a WP7 device
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someone didnt read the op.
mcardielo said:
if you wanted WP7 why didn't you buy a WP7 device
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Your an idiot, what did he say in his first post, don't say why not buy a windows phone. Get a grip.
I still can't believe it myself too ...
But apparently DFT is managing to port WP8 on HD2 :
http://twitter.com/CotullaCode
http://www.wpcentral.com/against-all-odds-windows-phone-8-has-been-hacked-htc-hd2
http://windowsphonehacker.com/articles/windows_phone_8_ported_to_the_htc_hd2-11-29-12
"Hopefully more details will be coming out soon with an actual release because as you have probably figured out, if the HD2 can run Windows Phone 8, there might be a chance for Windows Phone 7 devices too."
I guess it is right to ask ourself such a question indeed.
I don't think HD2 has something Titan doesn't have.
Surely it would be interesting to understand what DFT really has really done.
In the meanwhile I'd like to know what our beloved Titan cookers think about this.
i hope so that windows phone 8 will port to HTC titan
Don't get your hopes up. It will never happen. I wish it would. What does the HD2 have that the titan doesn't? Drivers that are more or less open sourced with a team (DFT) that specializes in them.
I don´t think, that port to Titan never be. Titan have better HW than HD2. You´ll see, port for Titan will be Now, we only waiting ...
Many phones have hardware better than the HD2, that is completely irrelevant.
link68759 said:
Many phones have hardware better than the HD2, that is completely irrelevant.
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not as irrelevant ... Titan is first series device with windows phone, i´m thinking, that port WP8 will be for all first series device - like trophy, hd7, mozart ... Maybe I´m wrong .... time will tell ....
bartCZ said:
not as irrelevant ... Titan is first series device with windows phone, i´m thinking, that port WP8 will be for all first series device - like trophy, hd7, mozart ... Maybe I´m wrong .... time will tell ....
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Titan isnt first series device WP, Titan and Radar are second series. First series are HD7, Omnia etc...
bartCZ said:
not as irrelevant ... Titan is first series device with windows phone, i´m thinking, that port WP8 will be for all first series device - like trophy, hd7, mozart ... Maybe I´m wrong .... time will tell ....
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sorry HTC Titan is a Second serie of WP7
Second Windows Phone 7.5
HTC Titan
HTC Radar
First Windows Phone 7.0
HTC 7 mozart
HTC 7 pro
HTC 7 Surround
HTC HD7
HTC 7 Trophy
Diepvriezer said:
sorry HTC Titan is a Second serie of WP7
Second Windows Phone 7.5
HTC Titan
HTC Radar
First Windows Phone 7.0
HTC 7 mozart
HTC 7 pro
HTC 7 Surround
HTC HD7
HTC 7 Trophy
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Yes, yes, you have right ... I mean, that except faster CPU is Titan the same device as hd7, tropy etc ......... I ´m wrong wrote it. My mystake.
Moved to General as there is nothing for the Titan at this point.
Thank you,
mf2112
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Anyway, the point is the HD2 has drivers that can be worked with and a team of expert that specialize in it.
Titan has neither. Titan will not get WP8, don't get your hopes up.
I found the photo of the HD2 a bit interesting; one the build number's last few digits were blacked out and did all the zeroes escape everybody? What I find curious is the Titan I is flashable, as of this typing the Titan II is not. I own both the HD2 and Titan and the Titan runs 7.8 much better than the HD2 though I have nothing but sincere admiration for the HD2; an incredible piece of hardware despite it's lack of memory.
link68759 said:
Don't get your hopes up. It will never happen. I wish it would. What does the HD2 have that the titan doesn't? Drivers that are more or less open sourced with a team (DFT) that specializes in them.
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Do you have any proof of what you are saying ?
Well not "open sourced" but here's how it works (and all of this I have gathered from browsing XDA over the years):
In order to get android to work, someone had to either find drivers or reverse engineer something for the HD2 to get the hardware to work. This led to native ports of Ubuntu and Debian and MeeGo. Whatever was done, the previously closed drivers are now well understood enough to port it around to any linux. Then I've heard that the HD2 was a WP7 test device, and those drivers were leaked from HTC (I presume). That is the ONLY reason the HD2 has WP7. I imagine the leaked drivers aided the port to WP8.
Moreover I don't know if you follow DFT, but they have entirely rewritten and replaced the original bootloader and have added the ability to multi boot up to 32 (or some absurd number) different operating systems from multiple sources. They know the HD2 in and out.
It does not matter at all that other devices have better specs. Nearly any phone made after the HD2 has better specs. Specs are irrelevant. The HD2 is a special beast. In fact I don't think any other phone can even run android natively- all the android "ports" for other WM phones rely on HarEt, whereas the HD2 can run it natively... So afaik the HD2 is the only device that can natively run another OS.
Asking when *your* random phone is going to be able to do cool things like the phone that has *years* of community development behind it is rather self serving, a little ignorant and kind of annoying.
If you really want it to happen, put a bounty on it with a reward. Then maybe someone could work a miracle... If it were to be any Gen 2 windows phone, I suppose it would be the Radar or the Titan though, given that we have HSPL. But IMO the titan/radar are going to be left behind very quickly as the hacking scene transitions to WP8 devices.
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Well not "open sourced" but here's how it works (and all of this I have gathered from browsing XDA over the years):
In order to get android to work, someone had to either find drivers or reverse engineer something for the HD2 to get the hardware to work. This led to native ports of Ubuntu and Debian and MeeGo. Whatever was done, the previously closed drivers are now well understood enough to port it around to any linux. Then I've heard that the HD2 was a WP7 test device, and those drivers were leaked from HTC (I presume). That is the ONLY reason the HD2 has WP7. I imagine the leaked drivers aided the port to WP8.
Moreover I don't know if you follow DFT, but they have entirely rewritten and replaced the original bootloader and have added the ability to multi boot up to 32 (or some absurd number) different operating systems from multiple sources. They know the HD2 in and out.
It does not matter at all that other devices have better specs. Nearly any phone made after the HD2 has better specs. Specs are irrelevant. The HD2 is a special beast. In fact I don't think any other phone can even run android natively- all the android "ports" for other WM phones rely on HarEt, whereas the HD2 can run it natively... So afaik the HD2 is the only device that can natively run another OS.
Asking when *your* random phone is going to be able to do cool things like the phone that has *years* of community development behind it is rather self serving, a little ignorant and kind of annoying.
If you really want it to happen, put a bounty on it with a reward. Then maybe someone could work a miracle... If it were to be any Gen 2 windows phone, I suppose it would be the Radar or the Titan though, given that we have HSPL. But IMO the titan/radar are going to be left behind very quickly as the hacking scene transitions to WP8 devices.
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I have to agree. I stopped flashing my smart phones for quite some time and just recently picked it up. The HD2 is that device we all wish every other device since could do. If there is to be a WP8 port, that is the device that will garner the most attention. Currently as of this typing, I have the NexusHD2 on that device. It isn't Samsung's mini-beast, the Galaxy S3 nor is it enabled with that beautiful touch screen, but the HD2 is a stud among steers. The day my HD2 is put to rest, it will be buried with honors.
link68759 said:
Titan will not get WP8, don't get your hopes up.
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Don't mind for me DO getting my hopes up
Pneumo said:
Don't mind for me DO getting my hopes up
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Patience, patience, patience. There is rumor there is a HTC Titan III, the HTC Zenith in the pipeline. I know there are many who have this philosophy that they must get their hands on the latest and state of the art devices. I don't doubt that Windows Phone 7 should have been what we now know is Windows Phone 8. There's nothing more irritating than the inability to not run programs like Skype as they do on Android and an overall general attitude that appears contrary to customer loyalty 101. Today (as of this typing) we do not know if the SPLs on the HTC 8X, Nokia Lumia 820 and 920 and future unknown devices in the pipeline will be akin to the HTC Titan II (Radiant) which remains unlockable. It is unlikely there will never be another device like the HD2 and for me, that is what is wrong with carriers and Microsoft in regards to the devices they sell within the United States and Canada; it is internationally how different and many of us wish we had their device hardware.