I still can't believe it myself too ...
But apparently DFT is managing to port WP8 on HD2 :
http://twitter.com/CotullaCode
http://www.wpcentral.com/against-all-odds-windows-phone-8-has-been-hacked-htc-hd2
http://windowsphonehacker.com/articles/windows_phone_8_ported_to_the_htc_hd2-11-29-12
"Hopefully more details will be coming out soon with an actual release because as you have probably figured out, if the HD2 can run Windows Phone 8, there might be a chance for Windows Phone 7 devices too."
I guess it is right to ask ourself such a question indeed.
I don't think HD2 has something Titan doesn't have.
Surely it would be interesting to understand what DFT really has really done.
In the meanwhile I'd like to know what our beloved Titan cookers think about this.
i hope so that windows phone 8 will port to HTC titan
Don't get your hopes up. It will never happen. I wish it would. What does the HD2 have that the titan doesn't? Drivers that are more or less open sourced with a team (DFT) that specializes in them.
I don´t think, that port to Titan never be. Titan have better HW than HD2. You´ll see, port for Titan will be Now, we only waiting ...
Many phones have hardware better than the HD2, that is completely irrelevant.
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Many phones have hardware better than the HD2, that is completely irrelevant.
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not as irrelevant ... Titan is first series device with windows phone, i´m thinking, that port WP8 will be for all first series device - like trophy, hd7, mozart ... Maybe I´m wrong .... time will tell ....
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not as irrelevant ... Titan is first series device with windows phone, i´m thinking, that port WP8 will be for all first series device - like trophy, hd7, mozart ... Maybe I´m wrong .... time will tell ....
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Titan isnt first series device WP, Titan and Radar are second series. First series are HD7, Omnia etc...
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not as irrelevant ... Titan is first series device with windows phone, i´m thinking, that port WP8 will be for all first series device - like trophy, hd7, mozart ... Maybe I´m wrong .... time will tell ....
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sorry HTC Titan is a Second serie of WP7
Second Windows Phone 7.5
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sorry HTC Titan is a Second serie of WP7
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HTC Radar
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Yes, yes, you have right ... I mean, that except faster CPU is Titan the same device as hd7, tropy etc ......... I ´m wrong wrote it. My mystake.
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Anyway, the point is the HD2 has drivers that can be worked with and a team of expert that specialize in it.
Titan has neither. Titan will not get WP8, don't get your hopes up.
I found the photo of the HD2 a bit interesting; one the build number's last few digits were blacked out and did all the zeroes escape everybody? What I find curious is the Titan I is flashable, as of this typing the Titan II is not. I own both the HD2 and Titan and the Titan runs 7.8 much better than the HD2 though I have nothing but sincere admiration for the HD2; an incredible piece of hardware despite it's lack of memory.
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Don't get your hopes up. It will never happen. I wish it would. What does the HD2 have that the titan doesn't? Drivers that are more or less open sourced with a team (DFT) that specializes in them.
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Do you have any proof of what you are saying ?
Well not "open sourced" but here's how it works (and all of this I have gathered from browsing XDA over the years):
In order to get android to work, someone had to either find drivers or reverse engineer something for the HD2 to get the hardware to work. This led to native ports of Ubuntu and Debian and MeeGo. Whatever was done, the previously closed drivers are now well understood enough to port it around to any linux. Then I've heard that the HD2 was a WP7 test device, and those drivers were leaked from HTC (I presume). That is the ONLY reason the HD2 has WP7. I imagine the leaked drivers aided the port to WP8.
Moreover I don't know if you follow DFT, but they have entirely rewritten and replaced the original bootloader and have added the ability to multi boot up to 32 (or some absurd number) different operating systems from multiple sources. They know the HD2 in and out.
It does not matter at all that other devices have better specs. Nearly any phone made after the HD2 has better specs. Specs are irrelevant. The HD2 is a special beast. In fact I don't think any other phone can even run android natively- all the android "ports" for other WM phones rely on HarEt, whereas the HD2 can run it natively... So afaik the HD2 is the only device that can natively run another OS.
Asking when *your* random phone is going to be able to do cool things like the phone that has *years* of community development behind it is rather self serving, a little ignorant and kind of annoying.
If you really want it to happen, put a bounty on it with a reward. Then maybe someone could work a miracle... If it were to be any Gen 2 windows phone, I suppose it would be the Radar or the Titan though, given that we have HSPL. But IMO the titan/radar are going to be left behind very quickly as the hacking scene transitions to WP8 devices.
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Well not "open sourced" but here's how it works (and all of this I have gathered from browsing XDA over the years):
In order to get android to work, someone had to either find drivers or reverse engineer something for the HD2 to get the hardware to work. This led to native ports of Ubuntu and Debian and MeeGo. Whatever was done, the previously closed drivers are now well understood enough to port it around to any linux. Then I've heard that the HD2 was a WP7 test device, and those drivers were leaked from HTC (I presume). That is the ONLY reason the HD2 has WP7. I imagine the leaked drivers aided the port to WP8.
Moreover I don't know if you follow DFT, but they have entirely rewritten and replaced the original bootloader and have added the ability to multi boot up to 32 (or some absurd number) different operating systems from multiple sources. They know the HD2 in and out.
It does not matter at all that other devices have better specs. Nearly any phone made after the HD2 has better specs. Specs are irrelevant. The HD2 is a special beast. In fact I don't think any other phone can even run android natively- all the android "ports" for other WM phones rely on HarEt, whereas the HD2 can run it natively... So afaik the HD2 is the only device that can natively run another OS.
Asking when *your* random phone is going to be able to do cool things like the phone that has *years* of community development behind it is rather self serving, a little ignorant and kind of annoying.
If you really want it to happen, put a bounty on it with a reward. Then maybe someone could work a miracle... If it were to be any Gen 2 windows phone, I suppose it would be the Radar or the Titan though, given that we have HSPL. But IMO the titan/radar are going to be left behind very quickly as the hacking scene transitions to WP8 devices.
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I have to agree. I stopped flashing my smart phones for quite some time and just recently picked it up. The HD2 is that device we all wish every other device since could do. If there is to be a WP8 port, that is the device that will garner the most attention. Currently as of this typing, I have the NexusHD2 on that device. It isn't Samsung's mini-beast, the Galaxy S3 nor is it enabled with that beautiful touch screen, but the HD2 is a stud among steers. The day my HD2 is put to rest, it will be buried with honors.
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Titan will not get WP8, don't get your hopes up.
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Don't mind for me DO getting my hopes up
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Don't mind for me DO getting my hopes up
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Patience, patience, patience. There is rumor there is a HTC Titan III, the HTC Zenith in the pipeline. I know there are many who have this philosophy that they must get their hands on the latest and state of the art devices. I don't doubt that Windows Phone 7 should have been what we now know is Windows Phone 8. There's nothing more irritating than the inability to not run programs like Skype as they do on Android and an overall general attitude that appears contrary to customer loyalty 101. Today (as of this typing) we do not know if the SPLs on the HTC 8X, Nokia Lumia 820 and 920 and future unknown devices in the pipeline will be akin to the HTC Titan II (Radiant) which remains unlockable. It is unlikely there will never be another device like the HD2 and for me, that is what is wrong with carriers and Microsoft in regards to the devices they sell within the United States and Canada; it is internationally how different and many of us wish we had their device hardware.
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Let this be just discussion first...
So today was the Windows Phone 7 announcement and a lot of new devices were announced including the HTC 7 Mozart:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/11/htc-7-mozart-and-7-trophy-set-out-to-conquer-the-wp7-world-7-pr/
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/11/htc-7-mozart-first-hands-on/
Pretty similar hardware and look to our Desire... I know it's early now but do you think that we will be able to port Windows Phone 7 to our Desire? Just for fun... Android is good enough.
Moved to General as not development.
Would be much more difficult since that's 100% reverse engineering 'cause Windows Phone 7 OS is not open source at all. But not impossible, though don't expect any...
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Would be much more difficult since that's 100% reverse engineering 'cause Windows Phone 7 OS is not open source at all. But not impossible, though don't expect any...
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Devs here have made wonders, and I think I saw a dev here running WP 7 on an HD 2....
I think we only need some sort of a bootloader... as the hardware is pretty similar it should boot and some parts should work.
I'm also more than satisfied with Android, but hey... as a geek, dual booting my smartphone does have some appeal
Seems unlikely. One of the biggest problems with pouring android to a wm phone is that some of the drivers are in the radio rom and that is closed. So a huge among of work goes into figuring out how to talk to the hardware then coding that into the linux kernel source. In the case of wp7, there will be no source code at all, just binaries. Without haret and debug information, there is no way to start other than flashing the rom and seeing whether it bricks. Maybe if haret got ported out would be a start. (maybe it already has, I didn't look at this for a while).
....speaking about Bravo clones, how about one that runs WinMo 6.5?
http://phonereplica.info/dual-sim/touch-g7-dual-sim-phone-htc-desire-clone.html
....and a video of the action:
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/Un6h1tEL1GE/
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....speaking about Bravo clones, how about one that runs WinMo 6.5?
http://phonereplica.info/dual-sim/touch-g7-dual-sim-phone-htc-desire-clone.html
....and a video of the action:
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/Un6h1tEL1GE/
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These clones always make me laugh a little. Why don't they just put Android on them? Lol.
I'm 100% sticking with Android but, I'd love to be able to dual boot WP7. You know, just to say I can
This would be hard work!
WP7 ist not OpenSource so creating driver etc is vey heavy!
Side note, anyone know if its going to be SIM free? Orange have the exclusive as an operator but I'm quite tempted to have a look at this...first previews are saying WP7 is VERY fast
Orange will have paid through the nose to get exclusivity of this phone so don't expect to see it sim free for at least a couple of months, they normally have either 6 weeks, 3 months or 6 months exclusive rights before going sim free.
I suppose cause the ROMs are out it could just be debranded, assuming it's not too hard to break the bootloader
given desire and mozart have very similar specs, does that mean there's a good chance android can be ported to mozart? im guessing through some kind of bootloader? anyone working on it?
Wondows 7 on htc desire
I would also love, If My HTC Desire is capable of dual boot on Windows 7 and Android. After having such a good hardware but if it does not support on software then it such hardware is of no use.
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given desire and mozart have very similar specs, does that mean there's a good chance android can be ported to mozart? im guessing through some kind of bootloader? anyone working on it?
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Any one found a workaround to this yet? Dual booting is lovely. For this reason, I happen to put a hand on a HD2 with WinMo 6.5 and I can boot Android on it but the phone is not mine, so now Im searching for a good HTC phone that gives me the options to play with.
I just read an article regarding the Samsung Focus S, basically a Windows Phone 7 version of our beloved Galaxy S II... I was wondering if they have similar hardware inside? And will it be possible for some awesome dev to port the Mango ROM found on it to run on our GS2? Read something here on xda about dualbooting ROM's on the Galaxy S2... Wouldn't it be awesome if you could have both? The HTC HD2 is quite a old device but it can run Android, Windows Mobile and Windows Phone 7 perfectly... Could the same be possible for a Galaxy S2, except the Windows Mobile of course.
Please don't reply things like 'if you wanted WP7 why didn't you buy a WP7 device'. I'm extremely satisfied with my GS2 but if it were possible to see how the other side lives I'd really like to do that. Any thoughts?
As WP7 is not open source, its more or less like illegal to port it to other devices to which it is not intended to run.
The HD2 is a windows phone, so don't forget that! This is the ONLY reason it can run WP7
I also would love to have that option, if nothing else, to just try WP7. Would also be willing to donate, though I understand the awesome developers don't do it for money.
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I just read an article regarding the Samsung Focus S, basically a Windows Phone 7 version of our beloved Galaxy S II... I was wondering if they have similar hardware inside? And will it be possible for some awesome dev to port the Mango ROM found on it to run on our GS2? Read something here on xda about dualbooting ROM's on the Galaxy S2... Wouldn't it be awesome if you could have both? The HTC HD2 is quite a old device but it can run Android, Windows Mobile and Windows Phone 7 perfectly... Could the same be possible for a Galaxy S2, except the Windows Mobile of course.
Please don't reply things like 'if you wanted WP7 why didn't you buy a WP7 device'. I'm extremely satisfied with my GS2 but if it were possible to see how the other side lives I'd really like to do that. Any thoughts?
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WP7 is not compatible with the Galaxy S2 proccessor. But WP7 is made almost exclusively for Qualcomm processors. So, don't ever expect a WP7 mango port for Galaxy S2.
Since WP7 is not opensource, the custom ROMs and ports are just repacked existing ROMs with minor modifications or mix and match different ROMs. Since there is no WP7 phones running on similar hardware, this is not possible on Galaxy S2.
As, for HD2, it's hardware is similar to most WP7 phones with HD7 being almost same hardware has HD2 with just minor change.
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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The HD2 is a windows phone, so don't forget that! This is the ONLY reason it can run WP7
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The fact that it is possible to run WP7 has nothing to do with the fact that it is shipped with Windows Phone.
It is unlikely that it will ever be ported to our device. Sad but true. Sad because WP7 is a great platform and it would be great to have Android and WP7 on our device.
thanks for all the reply's, it is quite sad though that this will likely never happen... oh well, we still have the phone of the year...
Oh and sorry for posting in the wrong section... my bad...
if you wanted WP7 why didn't you buy a WP7 device
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if you wanted WP7 why didn't you buy a WP7 device
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Why would you ever buy a Windows phone XD
mcardielo said:
if you wanted WP7 why didn't you buy a WP7 device
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someone didnt read the op.
mcardielo said:
if you wanted WP7 why didn't you buy a WP7 device
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Your an idiot, what did he say in his first post, don't say why not buy a windows phone. Get a grip.
Anyone know if there is Android out for the HTC Radar and if so are there any tutorials I could follow to put it onto my phone? I didn't see an android development in these forums which is why I was asking.
Thanks,
Indian
Android on WP hardware is an abomination. I hope you never get to experience it.
The hardware on this unit should easily run android. Just look at the number or old htc devices that are doing that now.
Unfortunately, the Radar 4g didn't sell in great numbers, so I doubt any dev would want to spend their time and effort on it.
I would love to try android on my Dutch htc radar.
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It is impossible.
i think its better for you to buy an android phone for you to have android.
if you want an android softphone, i think you must sell your radar, and buy one. only htc hd2 can install wp and android.
Is it possible to install Android 4 on Nokia Lumia 920?
Unfortunately not at this point in time, Many users would love to have a dual boot option, Set a bounty to the Dark Forces Team to work on HSPL and if there is enough interest then may be work will begin
Either way it will not be happening for a very long time.
Yes, you just need the boot floppy.
i want Android too.
Not much love in WM8 now.
According to the reviews I read getting HSPL for the WP8 devices is close to impossible. (although that was said about a lot of things) I personally would however not want Android on this awesome device even if someone paid me for it
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Is it possible to install Android 4 on Nokia Lumia 920?
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Fortunately, no.
sk22 said:
i want Android too.
Not much love in WM8 now.
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Buy an Android phone then. Problem solved.
These aren't desktop computers you can just load any OS onto, they are complex embedded devices.
There is a surprising lack of compatibility on ARM processors, so you're better buying the phone with the OS you want to run.
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Buy an Android phone then. Problem solved.
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Have to agree, why get a WM8 phone if you want to put Android on it?
HD2 was also a wm6.5 phone, right??
But I don't think there are a lot of HD2 still running wm6.5.
Why people keep porting different OS into it? They can just buy an android device, problem solved, too.
I think there will be more fans if 920 can be ported other OS.
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What is "WM8"?
There are more than enough Android phones bro.
You bought the wrong phone if you really want Android
the Lumia 920 is pure Windows Phone, you can fell the power and style it
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There was not a single port of Android to a WP7 phone and almost all of them had HSPL. When looking into HSPL for Nokia though some Devs decided it was to hard to crack - I would guess with Secure Boot this has not gotten easier.
So all in all: it is highly unlikely that you will see an Android port for the Lumia phones or any other WP for that matter. If you don't like WP8 and want an Android device: sell the Lumia and buy an Android - everything else seems likely to just frustrate you to no end.
Hi, I have a lumia 920 and I'd love to put on android, how can I do?
It is not possible. Why give to the Mercedes engine from Trabi...?
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It is not possible. Why give to the Mercedes engine from Trabi...?
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Its not impossible...but DEVs are not so intrested in it an its really hard process
Dont forget Htc Hd2 which is basically Windows 6.5 device (many dont know this!)and enjoyed every android version perfectly till now 4.2.2 Jb...even it ran almost all feature of iOS port...
The Thing Needed is... Dev Interest & Some hard work...but Who
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Petulinek said:
It is not possible. Why give to the Mercedes engine from Trabi...?
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in today's world you can do it all
g0ku92 said:
in today's world you can do it all
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Why don't you take the initiative and start porting it then?
I would if I could but unfortunately I do not know where to start
ipsuvedi said:
Its not impossible...but DEVs are not so intrested in it an its really hard process
Dont forget Htc Hd2 which is basically Windows 6.5 device (many dont know this!)and enjoyed every android version perfectly till now 4.2.2 Jb...even it ran almost all feature of iOS port...
The Thing Needed is... Dev Interest & Some hard work...but Who
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You cannot assume that every piece of hardware "under the hood" is like the HD2; it is not. The last Windows Phone device that could be HSPL was the HTC Titan I (Eternity); the Titan II (Radiant) is locked tight as a drum. I own to Titans with HSPL and I have been on the fence in regards to getting the Lumia 920 despite my device being WP7.8. I was playing around with my HTC Rhodiums which have NRGZ28's EnergyROM on them and runs great to this day albeit slower. It continues to run Skype 3.0 for Windows Mobile 6.x and runs Pandora. There are other devices similar to the Lumia 920 that run Android. Those who are up to speed on T-Mobile's Nokia Lumia 521 may note its specs are quite similar to the HD2 with one lone exception; T-Mobile's Wi-Fi calling will be enabled and unlike most new high end devices; this budget device will come with a expandable memory slot. It was announced T-Mobile will be adding the Nokia Lumia 925; a WP8 version of the a HTC One (M7); it will be metal cased.
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I would if I could but unfortunately I do not know where to start
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Other than the HD2; name me one newer Windows Mobile/Phone device Android was installed on and the last "newest" Android device that some eager beaver installed Windows Mobile/Phone on?
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You cannot assume that every piece of hardware "under the hood" is like the HD2; it is not. The last Windows Phone device that could be HSPL was the HTC Titan I (Eternity); the Titan II (Radiant) is locked tight as a drum. I own to Titans with HSPL and I have been on the fence in regards to getting the Lumia 920 despite my device being WP7.8. I was playing around with my HTC Rhodiums which have NRGZ28's EnergyROM on them and runs great to this day albeit slower. It continues to run Skype 3.0 for Windows Mobile 6.x and runs Pandora. There are other devices similar to the Lumia 920 that run Android. Those who are up to speed on T-Mobile's Nokia Lumia 521 may note its specs are quite similar to the HD2 with one lone exception; T-Mobile's Wi-Fi calling will be enabled and unlike most new high end devices; this budget device will come with a expandable memory slot. It was announced T-Mobile will be adding the Nokia Lumia 925; a WP8 version of the a HTC One (M7); it will be metal cased.
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Other than the HD2; name me one newer Windows Mobile/Phone device Android was installed on and the last "newest" Android device that some eager beaver installed Windows Mobile/Phone on?
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Exactly... It's just not happening. If you want Android then buy an Android phone. Plain and simple.
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Exactly... It's just not happening. If you want Android then buy an Android phone. Plain and simple.
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I'm on the same boat but with a Lumia 925. We have some shady employers who expect us to learn the tech but tell us they are too broke to pony up the funds to buy us what we need to learn it so we have to resort to getting these things loaded on devices we already own, and knowing of the incredible work done on the HTC HD2 running Android a few years back perhaps it could be done with today's devices.
I know that there are some very talented individuals that because of time constraints (work/life balance) can't devote time to make something like this happen and I respect their time and efforts on these sort of projects.
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Exactly... It's just not happening. If you want Android then buy an Android phone. Plain and simple.
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and if you want WP, buy WP device...
when i buy real WP device i see how HTC HD2 with WP or android is bad and c*ap...