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I switched over to the titan from my BB Curve that also had a 2mp camera, and the Curve took beautiful shots. But every photo i've taken with the titan looks terrible at best... unless i'm going for that modern-art-fuzzy-washed-out look... Are there any fixes/hacks/adjustments that are available to improve the camera quality? I have everything set on high, played around with the white balance, all the other settings. Any suggestions are appreciated!
I'm on DCD's 2.3.1 rom right now, but the photo quality has been poorly ever since i purchased the phone with the stock rom and all the roms in between.
I would recommend trying the touch camera. The flash doesnt work, but the pictures are a million times better.
the touch camera is included in DCD's kitchen
Does anyone have a separate link for the Touch Camera as a CAB file, I have trouble downloading large files at work, can't go for the kitchen.
Can I rephrase the question?
Does anyone know why the shutter speed on the titan (and the apache) are so freaking slow?
I've found that the only decent pics I can take are pics of totally stationary objects, so clearly, the shutter is just staying open for too long.
Any input? Any chance there's a registry setting we can change to speed up the shutter?
before the shutter speed comes into effect, the titan just doesn't seem to be able to focus properly, everything is always extremely blurry, especially when trying to take shots of objects close up. I've never had an HTC device before, are they all poorly built when it comes to the camera?
dogbeef said:
before the shutter speed comes into effect, the titan just doesn't seem to be able to focus properly, everything is always extremely blurry, especially when trying to take shots of objects close up. I've never had an HTC device before, are they all poorly built when it comes to the camera?
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that depends on your opinion, and whether you carry your device as a pda, a phone, or a camera. ive seen some wizard and hermes pics that look great to me, but i know nothing about optics.
there are a few threads in other device's forums about removing the back cover of the phone to clean the lense and possibly remove a filter from it. if you have a dirty cover it looks like it makes a difference.
how are the pics on the vogue?
dogbeef said:
before the shutter speed comes into effect, the titan just doesn't seem to be able to focus properly, everything is always extremely blurry, especially when trying to take shots of objects close up.
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Like most cell-phone cameras the lens on the titan is fixed-focus [wikipedia] so the focus doesn't adjust. This has been standard for pretty much any cell-phone camera including those on HTC devices. However they put an auto-focus lens on the Kaiser. Some cameras on cell-phones are becoming more sophisticated, but that doesn't do much for us stuck with the crap-cam on the titan lol.
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that depends on your opinion, and whether you carry your device as a pda, a phone, or a camera. ive seen some wizard and hermes pics that look great to me, but i know nothing about optics.
there are a few threads in other device's forums about removing the back cover of the phone to clean the lense and possibly remove a filter from it. if you have a dirty cover it looks like it makes a difference.
how are the pics on the vogue?
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been lurkin, but here is a topic I have specific experience with...
I've just recently sold my Vogue on eBay after fenagling a $99 Mogul from Sprint. I can tell you first hand that the Vogue camera SUCKS. Every picture I took, even outside, looked like I was inside a shoebox when the picture was taken. Blurry, dreary, orange-tinted and out-of-focus pictures are the norm with the Vogue.
I can't make a comparison yet, because my Mogul won't be here until tomorrow, but I will be sure to do so once it arrives.
Not too bad for a first post, eh?
Guess I gotta go put together a sig/avatar now. Great.
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Does anyone have a separate link for the Touch Camera as a CAB file, I have trouble downloading large files at work, can't go for the kitchen.
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Anyone............???
ertman420 said:
Guess I gotta go put together a sig/avatar now. Great.
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Is that Sho'nuff? I'd say you picked a pretty sweet avatar already.
dogbeef said:
Does anyone have a separate link for the Touch Camera as a CAB file, I have trouble downloading large files at work, can't go for the kitchen.
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I don't know if you can install the camera as a cab file - I haven't heard of anyone being able to just install the other camera drivers/files. You probably have to download the whole kitchen and choose the other camera when you cook the rom.
Yea, i wasn't just talking crap about the phone, i absolutely love the Titan, it just seems to me that with all the ways we've found to customize them and improve them, there HAS to be a way to improve the camera.. I mean 2MP is 2MP, there's only so much you can expect from the resolution, I understand its limited by the hardware in the end, but I'm getting circa '99 digital camera quality with my phone and i take a lot of photos for business AND personal reasons and carrying around an camera PLUS my phone seems like overkill. Anyone found that HTC Touch camera .cab?
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I don't know if you can install the camera as a cab file - I haven't heard of anyone being able to just install the other camera drivers/files. You probably have to download the whole kitchen and choose the other camera when you cook the rom.
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oops, just saw your reply, are you sure about this?
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oops, just saw your reply, are you sure about this?
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No, not sure at all. I've never tried it myself. But I seem to remember dcd posting a while back (around the time that the Vogue camera first got ported) that you couldn't just drop the installation files into a ROM you were already using.
the option is in his new 2.3.2 and 1.7 roms already.
Ok, i downloaded the 2.3.2 kitchen at home installed the TOUCH cam, the improvement is... well, not enough to really call it improvement.
Any other suggestions?
this is something i know about as ive had some great cell cams until i came across the mogul.
What makes this camera so bad is a mixed between three things.
1. The shutter takes way to long
This could be un-fixable as it could just be lousy hardware.
2. The camera apps takes up to much cpu processing
The mogul is constantly trying to automatically fix the exposure/ brightness/ saturation and what not, and it never seems to stick to a setting. My best example is that when in very bright light, it doenst go through a ton of different settings.
You can test this by just cutting the camera on and going outside on a bright day, the FPS of the camera will be smooth. Then go back inside or somewhere pretty dim, the framerate will stutter as it does a bunch of constant auto settings changes.
3. The exposer just plan sucks
Theres really no excuse except this being a cell cam and cell cams generally suck.
I had a a900 and sanyo m1 before my mogul, and geez, they cost half as much and half twice the quality camera wise. The m1 practically takes studio quality shots when in the proper light (it also had auto focus ).
Ive searched the registry of the mogul hundreds of times looking for whatever is slowing the camera down, but to no avail.
I think the only thing that would give it any noticeable improvement would be something that kills problem #2, all those auto settings changes. That will speed up the shutter for sure because like i posted, when in bright light, it doesnt go through those transitions and takes higher quality and faster pics.
IMO, htc shouldve left it up to me rather i wanted brightness and saturation to fix them selfs, even if you take off the auto settings in the camera menu, they are still running.
Thats my two cents, i hope someone can further investigate
just so you guys know... i cabed it up for ya.
see this thread
codyppc said:
just so you guys know... i cabed it up for ya.
see this thread
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Well then, go ahead and disregard what I said earlier about not being able to install it via a cab file.
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Well then, go ahead and disregard what I said earlier about not being able to install it via a cab file.
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no, you were right. it can't be installed via cab alone.
what i did is use a cab to put the files on the device. then i move them with resco or totalcommander to the windows folder.
see cabs can't overwrite ROM files. neither can the stock PPC file explorer, but resco and total commander can.
instructions are in that thread.
Currently Running Jt's Awesome CM6.2 Beta, (Quick thanks to Everyone Involved in bringing this to Us)
I Have a Personal Issue and wondering if anyone feels the same or could lend me a Helping Hand in getting it fixed.
My Question, Relates to the Black and White Preview. I gotta say that as much as i tried to like it, Im just not a fan of the Black and White.
I cant seem to get good looking pictures specially in dark or low light areas. where I cant see what Im shooting.
I tried Looking at the Settings and those were only for flash/contrast/Gps/zoom.
Switching the Camera Apk from the one in EC01 Rom, as well as an ASOP one but that did not thing, well it actually just removed the camera link from the launcher and App drawer
Once again this is a Personal Preference Issue/Question, that I Figured I'd Bring up, just in case anyone felt the Same way...
Its Not meant to Bang On Anyone Related to this Awesome project
Thanks in Advance.
I'm right there with you, and with all the hope everyone has in JT, I'm sure he'll fix that as well as the camcorder issue. What I never understood (Unless I overlooked it completely), was the camera didn't have a 5MP camera option, correct me if I'm wrong.
Yes, I hope Jt will get them fixed soon enough as well.
In regards to the 5MP you are correct, i didn't see an option either, which means its already set to 5, or its lower, which would explain why sometimes the pictures come out extra grainy.
Now that EDO1 came out, hopefully there some good stuff in there so that we finally see a Full CM7. But only time will tell
Hi all. I just got the FFC for the Vibrant in the mail after 3 weeks (awesome!) and I just opened up the phone, installed it according to all the instructions, made sure that it snapped in, but now my phone is not detecting either a rear or front camera! I'll try a new ROM, but I'm sure it's not that and I'm POSITIVE that I did not harm the new camera assembly. I took great care of it. I'll also try flashing the FFC_Mod.zip via CwM and see if it works. Will update once I've tried all of this. Anyone have any other ideas as to what's wrong?
even if the rom dosent support it should at least detect the rear camera.....
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even if the rom dosent support it should at least detect the rear camera.....
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That's what's freaking me out!!!
Ok the FFC_Mod.zip didn't work. Let's see what re-flashing the ROM does.
Hmm well what rom are you on?
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Hmm well what rom are you on?
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I was on Revolution ROM 2.0 (2.3.4 JVP) when I first tried it out. No luck, even after flashing FFC_Mod.zip. So, I swapped the new camera out with the old one just to see what would happen. The stock camera works, but the new GT-I9000 camera wont work in either case, whether it's the rear cam or the FFC. I checked all over the new camera. Except for the FFC attachment (obviously), EVERY little detail of that camera is the same as the old one, so I agree with you, the problem is most likely a software issue, but I'll still do one last test of it. I'll go and try a ROM and kernel that's proven to work, and if it doesn't, then I know that it's the camera itself and not something software based. I'll update this post once I'm done.
I bought the Evo 3D on launch day, but returned it shortly after because I needed some money due to a sudden emergency. I am now thinking about buying it again. One of the issues i had was the camera flash made little to no difference in low light pictures. I have read in a few threads that a recent update fixed an issue with shutter lag, but have found nothing in regards to the flash issue. I would just like to know if the pictures in low light situations have improved with recent OTA updates.
I know people will say "its just a cell phone, buy a camera." I understand that completely. Im just trying to weigh my options as to what my next phone will be.
The flash has always helped me, update or not. it lights up what you're taking a pic of. Its impossible for it NOT to help. So yes, the flash works. The only problem with the camera prior to update that bugged me was the green tint. That's been resolved now though. No issues with that.
There is a camera mod floating around if you root that turns off the picture compression and adds a few new features (panorama, scene modes and hdr - except I see no difference with the hdr). Pics look worlds better without the compression, mostly noticeable on a larger screen.
I just wondered, because with my EVO 4G, I never really had problems taking pictures. I had tons of problems taking pics in even moderately low light with the 3D. I changed every setting possible. I just have to check it out. Thanks for your input
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This should be in the q&a section...
- Coz i just saw it in 3D with the Shooter -
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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Hello! This is a request to all the developers for Galaxy S II. You probably already know that some Galaxy S II suffer from the problem of low-fps (stuttering) with low-light conditions. That is resolved with the firmware of the camera of the Samsung I997 (Infuse 4G), but putting this firmware, the LED flash does not work anymore. You can change the firmware?
The firmware does help is the SIEG03. Camera firmwares topic here on XDA: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098834&page=110
Thank you in advance if can help.
Behind SGS2's Camera: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4686/samsung-galaxy-s-2-international-review-the-best-redefined/9
It would be great if some of devs look at this fw and changes what is problem so flash stop working
Indeed, i would be great +1
I sent a private message to Chainfire and email to Supercurio. I hope they meet!
Great thread! SC cameras are the ones that have low light framerate issue. If someone resolves the flash issue it will be great.
Is this the same thing as the low-light autofocus laggy thing?
I made a video at my friends birthday in a nightclub and it's crap! Had to delete it! Blurring and lagging every few seconds!
I know potatoman might do something about it but he's busy at uni now, I'm kinda surprised nobody has jumped on this issue. One of the big reasons I got the S2 was the camera...turns out it's not that good
Yes. Its that problem. And is laggy beacuse of some galaxy s2 camera modules have some bad firmware. The SIEGO3 fix the suttering in video but remove the led flash of the videos and we cant use it like assisted lamp for autofocus. If someone implement in the firmware, our problem is solved.
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It would be great! Thanks
Maybe someone who knows cyanogen can tell him to tell samsung to fix it. I mean he does work for them now
666fff said:
Is this the same thing as the low-light autofocus laggy thing?
I made a video at my friends birthday in a nightclub and it's crap! Had to delete it! Blurring and lagging every few seconds!
I know potatoman might do something about it but he's busy at uni now, I'm kinda surprised nobody has jumped on this issue. One of the big reasons I got the S2 was the camera...turns out it's not that good
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Its that problem.
Chainfire didn't respond to private message. Even Supercurio. ...someone "knows" Cyanogen?...
We need forum member with "connections"
Set exposure to minimum level and frame drops is gone.
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Set exposure to minimum level and frame drops is gone.
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This is not a solution since makes videos dark as hell.
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Maybe Samsung are aware of the framerate issue... they should be considering how many of us have this problem, but before they can release the firmware it proberly need to be tested ect so takes time.
Im using the infuse 4G firmware & more than happy to plod along with it, until a fix is released by either a Dev or Samsung.
I had a Galaxy S before i got the S2, so having no light in video isn't to much of a problem for me, the camera flash works which is more important, even without the pre focus light the camera still locks on 99% of the time in low light.
TBH that pre focus light of the orginal cam firmware was annoying as hell to some people, as it use to blind them before the flash kicked in lol.
Anyways im happy with having constant 30fps in either 720p or 1080p without any framerate problems.
The well-known dev's are unlikely to respond to PMs as they'd get hundreds\thousands a day, mostly from noobs, so unless they're from people they already know, I wouldn't expect a response. Plus a lot of them don't frequent XDA as it's turned into a noobfest where the "popular" devices are involved.
You could try posting over on the Cyanogen forums.
Steve (Cyanogen) is not likely to be in a position to "tell" Samsung to fix anything, and certainly not for a device that is as old as the SGS2 is now.
You could try logging a fault with Samsung themselves, they have been known to respond, but I wouldn't hold your breath.
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Set exposure to minimum level and frame drops is gone.
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Ok but when I paid the phone, my money worked very well and did not need to decrease the exposure!
ixon2001 said:
Maybe Samsung are aware of the framerate issue... they should be considering how many of us have this problem, but before they can release the firmware it proberly need to be tested ect so takes time.
Im using the infuse 4G firmware & more than happy to plod along with it, until a fix is released by either a Dev or Samsung.
I had a Galaxy S before i got the S2, so having no light in video isn't to much of a problem for me, the camera flash works which is more important, even without the pre focus light the camera still locks on 99% of the time in low light.
TBH that pre focus light of the orginal cam firmware was annoying as hell to some people, as it use to blind them before the flash kicked in lol.
Anyways im happy with having constant 30fps in either 720p or 1080p without any framerate problems.
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The same for me! I don't feel a strong lack of flash, but can be useful with app. that use it like "Tiny Flashlight" etc.
knightnz said:
The well-known dev's are unlikely to respond to PMs as they'd get hundreds\thousands a day, mostly from noobs, so unless they're from people they already know, I wouldn't expect a response. Plus a lot of them don't frequent XDA as it's turned into a noobfest where the "popular" devices are involved.
You could try posting over on the Cyanogen forums.
Steve (Cyanogen) is not likely to be in a position to "tell" Samsung to fix anything, and certainly not for a device that is as old as the SGS2 is now.
You could try logging a fault with Samsung themselves, they have been known to respond, but I wouldn't hold your breath.
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In fact already figured that nobody would respond! shame! I just hope that they look, at least, the topic!
I guess that's that then. Nokia WP7 here I come. At least I know it will have a good camera.
666fff said:
I guess that's that then. Nokia WP7 here I come. At least I know it will have a good camera.
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Personally I'm happy with the GS2 camera! And in my opinion, is not this little difficulty make it worse!
PS: Maybe give us a hand!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1288994
And here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1289720
Just a heads up that while I'd love to help with this, I don't experience the issue myself, so I wouldn't even be able to test if my fix would work or not. I'm also not comfortable with my code being flashed- my firmware modding capabilities are limited at best... and flashing a bad camera firmware can be irreversible.
Sorry guys, good luck finding someone else who can help though.