Before anything else, I would like to ask you to vote on the poll.
So, uhh, the thread title says it all. Do you prefer or use Darktremor Apps2SD? Why? Do you really use an overwhelming number of apps? You may not answer all these questions, but consider these points for your answer:
1. We have 190MB internal memory (minus preinstalled, dalvik cache, cache)
2. SD read and write speeds.
3. <some other stuff I forgot>
And oh, I have searched the forum for anything similar to this, but found nothing, so I posted this.
Thanks!
Though we have froyo, not all the apps are installed/movable to sd. Games like raging thunder(20 mb), mini squadron(25 mb), pocket legends (25mb), pocket god (20 mb), ninjump(14mb), other racing games, the talking santa, cat, panda, robot series for kids, toss it series, angry birds 3 versions (40 mb), hungry shark 2 versions (25 mb), NINJA SERIES, slice it, some media players, home replacements, google apps, some live wall papers, 3-4 keyboards, etc etc take more than 700 mb memory.
I have a 784 mb partition. Of this only about 110 mb and about 85 mb of internal memory is left.
Hence, nfs(need for space).
eventhough, its still a great help right?
lekhwani said:
Though we have froyo, not all the apps are installed/movable to sd. Games like raging thunder(20 mb), mini squadron(25 mb), pocket legends (25mb), pocket god (20 mb), ninjump(14mb), other racing games, the talking santa, cat, panda, robot series for kids, toss it series, angry birds 3 versions (40 mb), hungry shark 2 versions (25 mb), NINJA SERIES, slice it, some media players, home replacements, google apps, some live wall papers, 3-4 keyboards, etc etc take more than 700 mb memory.
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Wow. That's a lot. Anyway, does your phone boot up reasonably quickly? I mean, how long do you have to wait until the apps become ready to be launched? Just asking, since I was thinking of flashing my copy of Light ROM with Darktremor.
syruz said:
eventhough, its still a great help right?
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Yes, definitely, especially if you have a lot of apps. If you don't, I suggest you stick to the native one. Just a suggestion though.
i dont use apps2sd. probably, i will when the number of apps installed on my optimus gets bigger and bigger.
as of now (while on void echo), i've already installed about 30 neccessary apps for my phone and still have 100mb worth of internal storage.
i just have this impression that apps installed on internal runs smoother and faster.
+ the fact that i only use a class 2 SD card.
My device booting time and ready to launch apps time is ok considering the a2sd and d2sd factor.
Previously I had 512 mb partition on on stock 2g. And I had used up about 485 of this. Everything was fine and I had more than 130 still available on internal. But once you fill up sd partition balance internal memory is useless. And also I needed a bigger sd card. So I went for a 8 gb and a 784 mb partition. I believe with internal memory 190 mb, we can have upto 1024 mb partition running well on our device.
The included 190mb is not enough with all the free apps out there for android. I cannot tell the difference whether the app/game is ran from internal or sd card. Especially since I have a 8gb class 6, the speed is fast enough for me not to notice
What about links2sd? (from gt540 forums)
You move to ext partition only apps with large amount of data. It has GUI.
The only drowback is that: you cannot update apps thet are on ext partition. You have to move the app back in the phone storage, update it and then move back on sd ext partition.
I have devoid zeta and mik_os kernel(with devoid kernel didnt work)
anotherloony said:
What about links2sd? (from gt540 forums)
You move to ext partition only apps with large amount of data. It has GUI.
The only drowback is that: you cannot update apps thet are on ext partition. You have to move the app back in the phone storage, update it and then move back on sd ext partition.
I have devoid zeta and mik_os kernel(with devoid kernel didnt work)
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Thanks! I haven't heard of this until now. This uses symbolic links in the phone memory to the sd card, right?
Problems installing Darktremor's Apps2SD to the stock ROM
Does anyone here have problems installing Apps2SD to the stock ROM?
I've tried the current and several previous versions of the app and don't have any luck getting it to work with my phone. I've got a 8gb card partitioned with 7gb of fat32 and about 1gb of ext3. Before each install, I wipe everything in the phone - data & cache. After flashing the zip file, the phone boots fine and after I run the app, it goes thru moving the files and then it reboots the phone and the phone just goes into a loop displaying the android animation.
Any help would be appreciated.
I liked it but then I realized I don't use/have that many apps and with 199 mb internal mem... I think I can handle that.
have you try using move2sd enabler? just search on market
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Yes, and in fact I use it. Problem is, it doesn't move every part of the app
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My question is why hasn't someone clever enough made a script or mod to make the SDCard the default on stock Samsung ROMs that can be flashed instead of the internal memory. I have searched to no avail. And if you seriously think a mere 11GB is enough you need to have your head examined.
I can't use CyanogenMod because even with it's "stable" 7.2, it's still unstable, even on the stock kernel. And even though the Stock ROM is bloatware from Hell, I'd take stability and bloat over random hangs and reboots. It's just that 11GB isn't enough when you've a 32GB card lyin' around collecting dust.
I'm technical enough to use the command line, but I'm just too lazy. I'd gladly donate a few bucks/buy a beer for an earnest devs time just for the sake of convenience.
So why hasn't anyone done it yet? I call fail on hobbyist devs everywhere. This is kind'a sad, y'know (Yes, I'm from Wisconsin).
ive been using cm9 for weeks/months without any crashes/hangs? So its not the rom but your apps that causing problems.
Why dont you try an app2sd app?
Ive never filled my 11GB of internal storage with apps because all my video's and pictures are on my external sd and my big apps (games and gps) automaticly save on external sdcard aswell.
How many apps do you get? because 11gb of just apps is alot... I think you should better do a full wipe and install your apps again one by one.
Also check the lost.dir map everything in there may be deleted, i once had 2 gig of data in it.
manmad said:
ive been using cm9 for weeks/months without any crashes/hangs? So its not the rom but your apps that causing problems.
Why dont you try an app2sd app?
Ive never filled my 11GB of internal storage with apps because all my video's and pictures are on my external sd and my big apps (games and gps) automaticly save on external sdcard aswell.
How many apps do you get? because 11gb of just apps is alot... I think you should better do a full wipe and install your apps again one by one.
Also check the lost.dir map everything in there may be deleted, i once had 2 gig of data in it.
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Full disclosure: I bounce around from CM7, to stock, to CM9, and everytime it's a full wipe.
I'm sick of random reboots and mobile data hangs on the CMs, which is why I'm on stock. App2SD is only a stopgap, I want a permanent solution, and having my SDcard as default rather than telling certain apps to save to it. That becomes tedious with 200+ apps.
Hi - probably a stupid question, but when I open up Titanium Backup... on the home page, it shows the space available for the various partitions: System ROM, Internal, SD Card, and Ext SD Card. I notice that my System ROM partition is 87% full (87MB free, out of 667MB total).
When I first noticed this, I started to move some more apps to SD card, hoping to clear up some space. I think I moved about 15 apps, some of which were pretty large (Angry Birds, Angry Birds Rio, Firefox, for example). Yet, after a reboot, the System ROM space availability was exactly the same. What gives? Is this a fault in Titanium Backup? (dev won't answer any questions.. so I'm asking here...) If it's just a fault, then how do I know what an accurate space availability is?
Thanks in advance!
Hey gang,
Ok - so it's been a few months since my last post about this. I've even updated to JB a few weeks ago too. Removed a bunch of apps entirely, moved some more to SD Card, and now I have even less System ROM space - I'm down to 2kB What gives? Does anybody understand how this is calculated? Why is it showing such a small amt of free space? 2kB available should mean that my phone would lock up because there's no space available, I would think.
Does anyone know how to create more space? Just about a week or two ago I had 30MB avail, now down to 2kB!
Are you on xt912?
System is only for "main ROM" not really a biggie
Apps use internal for data
Sd card is for your data
Sd card ext is well the removable sd card
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Oops - sry, yes, I'm on 98.72.16.xt912.Verizon.en.us - CDMA - JB 4.1.2, using stock OTA update without any custom recoveries at the moment (I'm still deciding if I want to put BootStrap back on, or change to SafeStrap).
I guess I'm not overly concerned about the minimal space to the ROM, but 2kB! C'mon, that's virtually out of space. I have a hard time figuring out why I have so little space. If Verizon pushes out any updates (that's a huge IF), then I won't have any room to update. That could cause an issue, don't you think? How much space do you have on your ROM?
I have 37mb available in my system, i do remember on ics there was video in the system that could be removed to free up around 40mb.. Worth a look to see if it's hidden somewhere , although root access is probably needed. Lucky for me i have it
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I might have to remove the vids - where are they located? Are they the ones in the /preinstall/KnowYourDevice/ folder??
If so, I removed them and placed them on my PC. System ROM size didn't change. hmph
I was very close to spiking my phone against the wall in frustration over this so I really hope someone can help me.
I have a Sprint Evo 3D, its rooted and S-OFF. I am using the SmoothCriminal ROM which is a highly optimized version of the stock ICS ROM.
Even with the custom rom, I have a mere 800 megs of space, not nearly enough for my usage (Especially since some of my apps are 200-400 megs and can't be moved to the SD card). So I created a 4GB partition on my SDcard and used Link2SD. Everything was working perfectly.... until I needed to reboot.
Despite the fact that I should have around 300-400 mb free on internal. 800 mb free on the link2sd partition, and around 2GB free on the SD card, my phone goes absolutely NUTS when I reboot it. It clearly fails to re-link or re-mount or whatever all the linked apps, and thinks they are all internal. So it basically thinks I have 4GB of apps installed on 800 megs of space, believes it has zero space left, and everything crashes nonstop. Half the time the "desktop" doesn't even load and all I see is a notification bar. I have to uninstall a random internal app just to clear enough "space" so I can boot up Link2SD and frantically try to get SU to not crash so I can re-link everything. This isn't even that functional as a large amount of my apps it thinks are missing as they just appear as com.whatever in the apps list when I do this.
This is a total mess, I can't spend over an hour every time fumbling with an unresponsive device that warns me every 10 seconds that it thinks it is out of space, only to do it again every time it reboots, and now not even all the apps are re-mounting anymore when I do it!
Is there any way I can get Link2SD to not lose all of these mount-settings on boot? Or is there some better alternative? I tried other sd installing apps, but they didn't work.
Please, I am about to smash this damn thing.
After using the phone for a while, even if you don't install lots of apps, the 16GB internal storage area will eventually get full. Facebook, chrome, twitter etc develop large caches on the device. The thumbnail file balloons to several GBs. Even if you have a microSD, Google these days limit portability to the microSD. There are some workarounds. I use an app called Link2SD. I have created a 2nd partition on my microSD card, and use this app to move app data and cache files to this storage area.
How do you cope with the 16GB storage limit? How do you move apps and/or app data to the microSD card?
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After using the phone for a while, even if you don't install lots of apps, the 16GB internal storage area will eventually get full. Facebook, chrome, twitter etc develop large caches on the device. The thumbnail file balloons to several GBs. Even if you have a microSD, Google these days limit portability to the microSD. There are some workarounds. I use an app called Link2SD. I have created a 2nd partition on my microSD card, and use this app to move app data and cache files to this storage area.
How do you cope with the 16GB storage limit? How do you move apps and/or app data to the microSD card?
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And use folder mount. But the ultra does seem to collect a lot of a cache I've noticed over the years. I just clear it. Not to mention es file explorer has a recycling bin which is a nightmare.
I don't use the phone storage expect for Google everything else I run on my SD card.
Link2SD sucks its all complicated folder mount gets right to the point. Plus I use CyanogenMod so out of the box my phone only uses like 700mb
i remember on my desire hd on og the devs made a way to make the phone think that sd card was iternal memory so in other words i had 32gb internal also did this on my samsung tablet too
I have never filled up the internal storage completely. I have a 64GB SD which I use to store some of my music on, and all wallpapers and photos are moved to the SD. The only things I have on the internal storage are apps, and non of them manages to balloon the cache up to several gigs. Chrome has a cache limit of 200 MB, Reddit Sync has an option to clear the cache every day/every time I close it etc, so the things that takes up the most space are games. Those aren't causing any issues either since I only have 2 or 3 games installed at all times. When I'm done with them, I uninstall them. The stock ROM also has "App to SD" (which I don't use, but it's there). So all in all, I don't have to overcome any limits.
I can see how it's an issue if you insist in having 600 apps installed at all times, but then it's not the hardware's fault, but the user that's incredibly messy and stupid.
I use Obb on SD (Xposed) for games such as the GTA series and have a task for cleaning the Album cache with Tasker every day (that app tend to build huge cache files, I have experienced 1 GB....) and I am also careful to move downloaded stuff to the microSD card.
I also clean the cache regularly under storage and is usually with 2 GB free on the internal disk.
It is handy to set up Tasker to do regular cleaning of cache folders for those apps who tend to create big caches as well. When decent Marshmallow ROMs are out, my plan is to format my microSD card as "internal storage" (ext4 per the new feature introduced) which will make everything more seamless.
Hi everyone. Sorry for starting a new post, but I looked and I wasn't sure where my question fit in. I'm using Link2SD on my kids' tablets and overall it works great. I got really fast (SanDisk extreme) micro SD cards for black Friday and the games run faster than with tablet memory. One thing I'm trying to figure out is why, even though I have both tablets set up mostly the same, one of the tablets has a lot less free space showing. I do have about 400-500 MB more of apps on the tablet showing less free space, BUT it is showing 4.0 GB free space vs. 5.8 GB free space on the other tablet. Why would this be (1.8 GB difference) if all else is the same?
Is it something to do with dalvik/cache? Speaking of it, is it safe to wipe the dalvik/cache through TWRP now that I have Link2SD set up with 30+ apps linked? Do I then just relink the dalvik files after rebooting? Or do things get messed up? I'm hesitant to do any of that because I have everything working well now, except the free space issue.
Or, if I multi-select and then choose to relink everything (apk, dex, internal data), could that help? Everything appears to already be linked correctly, so would relinking mess it up? Also, as a side note, I don't have any lib files linked as I have found that in the past it did mess things up for me. It would cause some apps to re-optimize at every boot, I think because the lib files wouldn't relink, even though I enabled it in the Link2SD settings. So now I stay away from that and all else is good, except this free space issue.
Any ideas on a solution? Is there something else taking up free space that's not listed in internal or system memory? Maybe downloaded Google play books? Or are they listed in the app data? Is the free space shown not correct, and it's actually more? I just can't figure it out. Any ideas would be great. Thanks!!!!
Here are the screenshots. You can see 5.76GB vs 4.07GB, but only 6.94GB vs 7.34GB for internal space difference. Why?