hi i want to know what is the correct apn and system configuration setting for the x10i for tmobile us for the sms/mms but with no data plan. i don't want to set it up wrong and end up being charge for data plan. and i dont' want my mom does not want internet on her phone cause she has no use for internet. thanks a lot.
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Guys I'm totally new to smartphones so I need an advise. I would like to buy myself Moto Atrix but I don't want to buy a data plan for it. I plan on using Rogers pay-as-you-go voice sim card and use wifi for data. Is that even possible on the smartphone? Also I plan on using this phone in europe so question is would a pre paid voice sim work on this phone in europe? Oh and one more question if the voice sim with wifi for data would work would I be able to use all the internet apps on the phone or some would not work over wifi?
Thanks for your time
It is possible and a great way to save money. As long as rogers supports quad band GSM and not CMDA (like verizon), then you can use the voice and texting features of this phone all you wish.
Some things to note:
The phone must be unlocked and have some kind of wifi connection established to set up a motoblur account, (buy a used one not a new one).
Google Maps and navigation will not work unless you can find some kind of cacheing program.
Voice actions will not work, they require the google servers to process your voice.
Rogers may decide to change your service manually if they are like At&t. Check out other GSM networks if they try to do this to you.
Thanks for a quick reply. Now why should I buy a used phone? I think right now new/used prices are close. Also would google maps work in a wifi hotspot? I know that I can't use it unless I'm in the wifi hotspot. The same thing with voice commands souldn't they work as long as I'm in the wifi hotspot? I plan on using CoPilot software on the phone so I guess I wouldn't need any data connection for that right?
Thanks
If you are in a wifi hotspot, your phone will work identically to a phone with a data plan. You must buy it used because to activate moto blur initially, you must have a data connetion (data plan) to sign in, or else it wont let you continue (You cannot enable wifi yet).
Oh I didn't know about motoblur account. Is there a way around that by rooting the phone? What about using my firends sim with data to do that?
I think the process fails and then it'll ask you if you want to connect via wifi..no need for a data connection..
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veshio said:
You must buy it used because to activate moto blur initially, you must have a data connetion (data plan) to sign in, or else it wont let you continue (You cannot enable wifi yet).
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No it's not true. I signed up a motoblur account over the WiFi. I bought mine at costco.com as an upgrade to my original ATT HTC Fuze and I do not have a data plan.
Sean
you can make a blur account on the internet from a real computer
Just add data and quit being cheap. They make basic phones for people who don't see the value in paying for internet.
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i have a bit of a problem with 3G data and mms. in original stock 2.1 from SE i can disable 3G data, but that will not turn off MMS sending and receiving.
however, in most froyo, including in CM6-final. this is not possible. we have to enable both 3G data to get mms to work. however... i dont have a 3G data plan, and it can be very expensive .............
here are some facts that i have tried out:
1. using SE stock 2.1, it is possible to disable 3G data but still receive send mms
2. using SE stock 2.1, it is possible to have only 1 APN for mms without other types (default, supl), but still receive send mms
3. it is a froyo bug, based on things i found on the internet
4. some brand such samsung motorola, have patched it
5. i tried to set up different APN for mms (mms) and 3G (degault,supl). still can not do mms without 3G data
6. i set up only 1 APN for mms... it doesnt work
7. different APN for mms and 3G data, send an mms to myself, works, and then i delete APN for 3G data. now mms can work with only mms APN. and i dont have 3G data activity at all. but after restart. can not work again
anyone, any idea how to get the mms working without enabling 3G data?
ok. thank you
cheers
more info:
code.google.com/p/cyanogenmod/issues/detail?id=2289
this is exactly what i was trying to explain
btw, i tried to use SMART APN apk. but it doesnt help
i am using x10 mini pro on owain CM-6 final
Anyone ..?
i know it might not be important to some. but here, where i live, i could get charge with something like 2000 USD if i am not being carefull with my data usage....
i really need mms to work, without having to enable data for web. just 3G for mms only...coz i can not text sms to other operator, must use mms. sms is locked inter operator only
perhaps this might help u
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044575
thanx man!
unfortunately, i tried that in my step 6 above
"6. i set up only 1 APN for mms... it doesnt work"
it won`t connect. saying data service unavailable... the only way i can get mms to work is by "fishing" 3G data using 2 APN, and then delete APN for internet, leaving MMS alone. still, after i reboot, i get data service unavailable and have to "fish" again.
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thanx man!
unfortunately, i tried that in my step 6 above
"6. i set up only 1 APN for mms... it doesnt work"
it won`t connect. saying data service unavailable... the only way i can get mms to work is by "fishing" 3G data using 2 APN, and then delete APN for internet, leaving MMS alone. still, after i reboot, i get data service unavailable and have to "fish" again.
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i assumed that u followed the instructions word by word rite?
personally, i'm not using 3G connection, i only use 2G and my service operator won't charge any excess fee if i leave my connection on..so i can't really help much
i just happen to saw that thread and i thought that might do some help to u..
Yup
Thanks. I really appreciate it. I can not use 2g here in japan. All network services are in 3g. No more 2g.
Oot a bit, it was quiet amazing for me, as a foreigner, in sendai that during the earthquake, 3g data service are fully operasional at full speed eventhough we hno gas water and all.
Anyway, I finally found the answer.
I installed quick settings from market (they have several app with that name, i use the one by sergej shafarenka). Use it to disable mobile data.get mms, with not 3g internet.
it wasnt my idea too to be honest. Someone post it in an old thread for samsung galaxy. I ran in to it accidentally today. Fiuuuhhhh...now I would not have to worry anymore
I got my wife a Vibrant the other day to replace her current non-smartphone. She does not have a data plan. She will, however, be adding the pay per use data to her account so she can sporadically use data on a trip next weekend, but she wants to be able to turn the regular data off (as to not incur charges when she does not explicitly want to use the data) while still being able to use MMS (as she has a messaging plan).
Is there a way to toggle the Data on and off at will but still be able to send and recieve MMS with the regular data off? I have read that APNDroid does not work on the vibrant (and other galaxy s phones), though other people say it does.
The phone is stock Froyo 2.2 and only has one APN (T-Mobile US, epc.tmobile.com). Should I create a separate apn for MMS only and change the regular apn's type to just "internet" from "internet + mms"? Or would that still not work with APNDroid in the way I'd like?
Thanks for any help.
No. Go into the APN setting. At the VERY bottom, there is APN type. Set it to MMS only. That way it will only activate when an MMS is received/sent. That is the same setting you describe in your post.
Be aware that MMS data usage will NOT get charged. Yes, it is technically using data but if your wife has texting, sending and receiving MMS messages will not incur you ANY charges, even though it uses data.
Note though that it's not perfect. Sometimes MMS gets bugged where it fails to download because the phone bugged and didn't establish a data connection. In that case, just go in the same menu and refresh it or go to the market so it establishes a connection and everything will work. Hope that helps.
Source: I have my Vibrant with data completely shut off. I don't pay for data and never have since I bought it. I have wifi most places.
Hey all,
I was wondering if anyone has been able to disable the AT&T mobile network but still been able to get multimedia messages. From the home screen I push menu, settings, battery & data management, data delivery and uncheck data enabled.
While this does turn off my internet connection to AT&T, I cannot get mms messages from my buddies.
I was able to disable the internet on the htc inspire.
Not sure if this is just phone related or rom related. Im using the alien rom.
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you need to be connected to AT&T with data enabled, thats how the message is downloaded lol.
If you're not connected to the ATT network, there's no way they can get a message to you. It's looking for your IMEI/ESN on the network to be able to transmit the information to your phone.
Then how come with my old inspire I could get mms while mobile network was turned off?
I have the 200 MB limit and I don't want to go over it... with the inspire it had an option to disable the internet from att. The only internet I had was with.
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MMS needs data connection however AT&T text messaging plan includes data for MMS.
for internet browsing and apps you needs separate data plan. MMS will work (keep your phone's data connection enabled) with regular text messaging plan.
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I would be okay with that if the data from the mms didn't count toward our data quota. That is the problem with the mms on our phones.
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I am using the Atrix on T-Mobile US and I can tell you that for my carrier MMS data DOES NOT count towards data plan limit.
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The data used to send an MMS message does not count towards your data plan quota on AT&T either.
I think you need to enable data using a mms only APN. Sorry, i'm not real good with APNs so i'm not sure what the settings need to be.
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I have a couple of friends that want to still be able to text but say they spend way too much time on their phones and want to NOT BE ABLE to get on the internet on their phones, not on cellular data or wifi, but still want to be able to SMS and MMS and of course make calls.
Is there a way to do this? They aren't very tech savvy so I think changing APN settings or host file (I don't know if phones use that?) would probably work but ideally don't want to actually turn off wifi because we have T-Mobile and one of the best things about T-Mobile is being able to call/text over wifi.
Any help is much appreciated!