[Q] Possible to toggle Data without affecting MMS?? - Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I got my wife a Vibrant the other day to replace her current non-smartphone. She does not have a data plan. She will, however, be adding the pay per use data to her account so she can sporadically use data on a trip next weekend, but she wants to be able to turn the regular data off (as to not incur charges when she does not explicitly want to use the data) while still being able to use MMS (as she has a messaging plan).
Is there a way to toggle the Data on and off at will but still be able to send and recieve MMS with the regular data off? I have read that APNDroid does not work on the vibrant (and other galaxy s phones), though other people say it does.
The phone is stock Froyo 2.2 and only has one APN (T-Mobile US, epc.tmobile.com). Should I create a separate apn for MMS only and change the regular apn's type to just "internet" from "internet + mms"? Or would that still not work with APNDroid in the way I'd like?
Thanks for any help.

No. Go into the APN setting. At the VERY bottom, there is APN type. Set it to MMS only. That way it will only activate when an MMS is received/sent. That is the same setting you describe in your post.
Be aware that MMS data usage will NOT get charged. Yes, it is technically using data but if your wife has texting, sending and receiving MMS messages will not incur you ANY charges, even though it uses data.
Note though that it's not perfect. Sometimes MMS gets bugged where it fails to download because the phone bugged and didn't establish a data connection. In that case, just go in the same menu and refresh it or go to the market so it establishes a connection and everything will work. Hope that helps.
Source: I have my Vibrant with data completely shut off. I don't pay for data and never have since I bought it. I have wifi most places.

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can you switcg data off on 2g networks

Hi Guys, I got fond of the Hero a lot. and requested a friend to get one for me on his way from london (sim free, unlocked)
1 thing concerns me is the data consumption over 2g networks as its quite expensive here
I need to know if I can stop data transfer without affecting calling ability???
this is crucial in my decision to buy
Appreciate your clear and quick responses.
danihasbini said:
Hi Guys, I got fond of the Hero a lot. and requested a friend to get one for me on his way from london (sim free, unlocked)
1 thing concerns me is the data consumption over 2g networks as its quite expensive here
I need to know if I can stop data transfer without affecting calling ability???
this is crucial in my decision to buy
Appreciate your clear and quick responses.
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Settings > Wireless Controls > uncheck "Mobile Network" > Qapl'a!
you can even put a Mobile Network Toggle on the desktop to just switch it on and off.
Whilst off, you can still send and receive SMS and calls, but not MMS.
Dayzzz
Dayzee said:
you can even put a Mobile Network Toggle on the desktop to just switch it on and off.
Whilst off, you can still send and receive SMS and calls, but not MMS.
Dayzzz
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do i need to download a special application or is it a native one?
do i need to root the phone?
Thiesen said:
Settings > Wireless Controls > uncheck "Mobile Network" > Qapl'a!
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does shutting mobile network shut data only?
the toggle is native
no you don't need to root the phone
yes, it only shuts off mobile data (including MMS), this is why it's called mobile data, and not airplane mode. Wifi is unaffected.
Data Roaming
Hi everyone,
We've just started using the Hero at work as a business phone, a lot of our employees travel internationally on a regular basis.
Using our old WinMo phones, picking up emails whilst roaming was automatically disabled by default but could be manually sync'd with our exchange server if required.
On the Hero, there doesn't seem to be a similar function. You have to go in to the Mobile Network settings and disable 'Data Roaming'.
My question is, if I disable 'Data Roaming' but still have 'Enable Always-on Mobile Data' active, will any downloaded apps still be able to connect and update i.e Twitter gadget for instance? Or does disabling 'Data Roaming' stop data connections full stop?
The ideal scenario for us would be something that is quick and easy to turn off (or turn on) that would prevent any data connection but will let us open up the Mail app and sync manually with our exchange server if required (like we could with WinMo).
I currently have the Toggle Selector app on my home screen to quickly get to the Mobile Network settings. I'm just not sure what to enable/disable in the settings menu that will let me get mails manually and prevents all other data connections.
Any advice or suggestions would be more than welcome. It's got us scratching our heads a little and is stopping us from upgrading other staff phones as we don't want to end up with a phone we can't use as a business tool internationally as it costs us the earth in data roaming charges.
The easiest way i can think of would be to have the toggle on screen, and when you want to sync, you turn it on, manually refresh the emails and then turn it off again.
if you have data roaming blocked, it will override the 'always on mobile data' setting, so no, when roaming is turned off, nothing will connect when you are abroad.
honestly though, android is not ready for business really, which is why HTC are pitching it at the consumer market mainly.
I am in the same position, just want to be clear, with the "toggle" will it stop all data? (including browser, mms texts, apps updating) i only want these when i have wifi.
thanks in advance
to make it absolutely clear:
When at home,. turn mobile data off and NOTHING can access GPRS.
When roaming on another network when abroad, turn data roaming off and GPRS is blocked. To access GPRS, you have to turn data roaming AND mobile data on to access GPRS.
The Data roaming toggle has precedence over the Mobile data toggle.
Thank you, appreciate it
I have noticed toggling mobile networks occurs twice. What I mean is, after toggling a couple of times, I cannot seem to coonnect to 3g anymore? In that case I always have to restart my phone. Anyone experiencing this issue? It could be a bug. I used To have a blackberry bold and that bug was fixed by an update

how to avoid roaming charges while out of the country.

[Q] How do I use my Vibrant for gps and wifi while avoiding roaming related charges when in Canada or another country?
[A] this is the question I asked support at t-mobile. I got 2 answers, neither were completely correct. The problem is that you cannot block IMs and phone calls from reaching your mobile unless you go into airplane mode. (Note that you will receive charges for IMs and for calls you do not pick up as long as they register on your phone. This is what I was told by one rep. Other reo said that I should not be able to receive these since my account was not set up for international services, but as msgs and calls came in, I got worried.)
The short of it is this: for $20, I bought CoPilot off the android market and downloaded the North America maps. This app does not require data connection, and it works remarkably well. I then put the phone into air plane mode. After doing this, I enabled gps and wifi. This allowed me block all direct calls and IMs while retaining the ability the ability to use the phone for gps and for browsing when there was an available wifi network. (having a google voice account actual enabled me to send IMs when connected to a wifi network.)
It all worked so well, I am further considering dropping my data plan altogether since the places I typically use the internet are places with wifi (though perhaps I will wait until the 2.2 update is pushed.)
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pyrusman said:
[Q] How do I use my Vibrant for gps and wifi while avoiding roaming related charges when in Canada or another country?
[A] this is the question I asked support at t-mobile. I got 2 answers, neither were completely correct. The problem is that you cannot block IMs and phone calls from reaching your mobile unless you go into airplane mode. (Note that you will receive charges for IMs and for calls you do not pick up as long as they register on your phone. This is what I was told by one rep. Other reo said that I should not be able to receive these since my account was not set up for international services, but as msgs and calls came in, I got worried.)
The short of it is this: for $20, I bought CoPilot off the android market and downloaded the North America maps. This app does not require data connection, and it works remarkably well. I then put the phone into air plane mode. After doing this, I enabled gps and wifi. This allowed me block all direct calls and IMs while retaining the ability the ability to use the phone for gps and for browsing when there was an available wifi network. (having a google voice account actual enabled me to send IMs when connected to a wifi network.)
It all worked so well, I am further considering dropping my data plan altogether since the places I typically use the internet are places with wifi (though perhaps I will wait until the 2.2 update is pushed.)
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In terms of GPS, you are correct, you would have to purchase a third party GPS app for that (since google maps doesn't cache. Well it does, but if you find yourself lost after choosing a route and don't have wifi available then you are forced to turn on data so it can redownload your route, since it only caches your route and nearby streets.) To block incoming phone calls you just set up unconditional call forwarding (**21*18056377243# send) which will forward all of your calls to VoiceMail. The 1805 number can be replaced with your VM provider of choice (ie Google voice.) To undo, just dial ##21# and send. After that just disable data roaming and you are good.
In terms of stopping IM/SMS/MMS, just have care add message blocking (or better yet, go to your tmobile account and add it from there) its a free service that blocks all incoming or outgoing sms/mms/email as sms/IM. Sometimes the reps will just add the sms/mms block so you might want to add it yourself from the site.
Also if you purchased the vibrant on a contract then you can't remove your data.
pyrusman said:
[Q] How do I use my Vibrant for gps and wifi while avoiding roaming related charges when in Canada or another country?
[A] this is the question I asked support at t-mobile. I got 2 answers, neither were completely correct. The problem is that you cannot block IMs and phone calls from reaching your mobile unless you go into airplane mode. (Note that you will receive charges for IMs and for calls you do not pick up as long as they register on your phone. This is what I was told by one rep. Other reo said that I should not be able to receive these since my account was not set up for international services, but as msgs and calls came in, I got worried.)
The short of it is this: for $20, I bought CoPilot off the android market and downloaded the North America maps. This app does not require data connection, and it works remarkably well. I then put the phone into air plane mode. After doing this, I enabled gps and wifi. This allowed me block all direct calls and IMs while retaining the ability the ability to use the phone for gps and for browsing when there was an available wifi network. (having a google voice account actual enabled me to send IMs when connected to a wifi network.)
It all worked so well, I am further considering dropping my data plan altogether since the places I typically use the internet are places with wifi (though perhaps I will wait until the 2.2 update is pushed.)
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
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Or if you want to keep the FULL functionality of your phone while traveling internationally you could buy a prepaid SIM for a carrier in the country you're visiting.
Col.Kernel said:
Or if you want to keep the FULL functionality of your phone while traveling internationally you could buy a prepaid SIM for a carrier in the country you're visiting.
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this ^^
If you did not want to get a SIM, you could just take your t-mo sim out. This way you could still use wifi, then use Google voice for texts and VM.

3G data MMS bug in froyo? or is it the problem in CM6? help....

i have a bit of a problem with 3G data and mms. in original stock 2.1 from SE i can disable 3G data, but that will not turn off MMS sending and receiving.
however, in most froyo, including in CM6-final. this is not possible. we have to enable both 3G data to get mms to work. however... i dont have a 3G data plan, and it can be very expensive .............
here are some facts that i have tried out:
1. using SE stock 2.1, it is possible to disable 3G data but still receive send mms
2. using SE stock 2.1, it is possible to have only 1 APN for mms without other types (default, supl), but still receive send mms
3. it is a froyo bug, based on things i found on the internet
4. some brand such samsung motorola, have patched it
5. i tried to set up different APN for mms (mms) and 3G (degault,supl). still can not do mms without 3G data
6. i set up only 1 APN for mms... it doesnt work
7. different APN for mms and 3G data, send an mms to myself, works, and then i delete APN for 3G data. now mms can work with only mms APN. and i dont have 3G data activity at all. but after restart. can not work again
anyone, any idea how to get the mms working without enabling 3G data?
ok. thank you
cheers
more info:
code.google.com/p/cyanogenmod/issues/detail?id=2289
this is exactly what i was trying to explain
btw, i tried to use SMART APN apk. but it doesnt help
i am using x10 mini pro on owain CM-6 final
Anyone ..?
i know it might not be important to some. but here, where i live, i could get charge with something like 2000 USD if i am not being carefull with my data usage....
i really need mms to work, without having to enable data for web. just 3G for mms only...coz i can not text sms to other operator, must use mms. sms is locked inter operator only
perhaps this might help u
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044575
thanx man!
unfortunately, i tried that in my step 6 above
"6. i set up only 1 APN for mms... it doesnt work"
it won`t connect. saying data service unavailable... the only way i can get mms to work is by "fishing" 3G data using 2 APN, and then delete APN for internet, leaving MMS alone. still, after i reboot, i get data service unavailable and have to "fish" again.
hahuhe said:
thanx man!
unfortunately, i tried that in my step 6 above
"6. i set up only 1 APN for mms... it doesnt work"
it won`t connect. saying data service unavailable... the only way i can get mms to work is by "fishing" 3G data using 2 APN, and then delete APN for internet, leaving MMS alone. still, after i reboot, i get data service unavailable and have to "fish" again.
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i assumed that u followed the instructions word by word rite?
personally, i'm not using 3G connection, i only use 2G and my service operator won't charge any excess fee if i leave my connection on..so i can't really help much
i just happen to saw that thread and i thought that might do some help to u..
Yup
Thanks. I really appreciate it. I can not use 2g here in japan. All network services are in 3g. No more 2g.
Oot a bit, it was quiet amazing for me, as a foreigner, in sendai that during the earthquake, 3g data service are fully operasional at full speed eventhough we hno gas water and all.
Anyway, I finally found the answer.
I installed quick settings from market (they have several app with that name, i use the one by sergej shafarenka). Use it to disable mobile data.get mms, with not 3g internet.
it wasnt my idea too to be honest. Someone post it in an old thread for samsung galaxy. I ran in to it accidentally today. Fiuuuhhhh...now I would not have to worry anymore

Download MMS Pics w/ Network Data off?

Hi All,
My wife doesn't have a data plan for her Mini Pro, so we have the network data turned off.
She uses text/mms a lot and I wanted to see if there is a way to allow her MMS (Handcent) to access the network data to download pictures without allowing any other programs to access the network data.
Currently, when she receives an MMS, I turn on her network data, download the pic and then turn it back off. As you can imagine, it is not a long-term solution.
For all other data, she uses wifi -
I appreciate any help/insights you all may have!
Afaik, MMS uses a separate apn from data connections. Meaning you could totally turn off data and she would still be able to use MMS. As to your question, Permissions Denied or LBE Privacy Guard might be what you're looking for.
This may be an issue specific to AT&T in the US, but to receive picture messages on their network, you need to enable the network data.
For text messages, they will come and go even with the data turned off as they are routed seperately.
I'll see if the programs you recommended might be a way for me to restrict all network data access except to mms -
I have the same problem using Telcel in Mexico.
I do the same thing as you do to your wife's phone, sadly I haven't found a workaround. Good thing is we get notified when we receive a MMS so we know when to enable it.
You can add a widget or use the status bar to turn data on/off with a single touch, I think that's the fastest way without leaving it on all the time.
I forgot to mention APNdroid. Just search for it on the market. It disables the network connection by modifying the APN.
I saw this posted elsewhere on XDA and it seemed to work so far (I'll let you know after I receive my bill at the end of the month).
"Go into apn settings. If you have only one for data and mms, then edit it, and right at the end "apn type" probably says "default " or perhaps "*" or maybe "default,supl,mms "
Change that to say just "mms"
If you have two entries one will be for default,supl and will have a on off toggle, the second will be for mms and won't have a toggle. Just toggle off the data one or edit out the default in apn type."
When I launched the web browser it said I was not connected to the internet, but I was still able to send and receive picture messages.
Original thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=912719

MMS without ATT Data

Hey all,
I was wondering if anyone has been able to disable the AT&T mobile network but still been able to get multimedia messages. From the home screen I push menu, settings, battery & data management, data delivery and uncheck data enabled.
While this does turn off my internet connection to AT&T, I cannot get mms messages from my buddies.
I was able to disable the internet on the htc inspire.
Not sure if this is just phone related or rom related. Im using the alien rom.
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you need to be connected to AT&T with data enabled, thats how the message is downloaded lol.
If you're not connected to the ATT network, there's no way they can get a message to you. It's looking for your IMEI/ESN on the network to be able to transmit the information to your phone.
Then how come with my old inspire I could get mms while mobile network was turned off?
I have the 200 MB limit and I don't want to go over it... with the inspire it had an option to disable the internet from att. The only internet I had was with.
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MMS needs data connection however AT&T text messaging plan includes data for MMS.
for internet browsing and apps you needs separate data plan. MMS will work (keep your phone's data connection enabled) with regular text messaging plan.
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Deafcyclist said:
I would be okay with that if the data from the mms didn't count toward our data quota. That is the problem with the mms on our phones.
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I am using the Atrix on T-Mobile US and I can tell you that for my carrier MMS data DOES NOT count towards data plan limit.
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The data used to send an MMS message does not count towards your data plan quota on AT&T either.
I think you need to enable data using a mms only APN. Sorry, i'm not real good with APNs so i'm not sure what the settings need to be.
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