can you switcg data off on 2g networks - Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi Guys, I got fond of the Hero a lot. and requested a friend to get one for me on his way from london (sim free, unlocked)
1 thing concerns me is the data consumption over 2g networks as its quite expensive here
I need to know if I can stop data transfer without affecting calling ability???
this is crucial in my decision to buy
Appreciate your clear and quick responses.

danihasbini said:
Hi Guys, I got fond of the Hero a lot. and requested a friend to get one for me on his way from london (sim free, unlocked)
1 thing concerns me is the data consumption over 2g networks as its quite expensive here
I need to know if I can stop data transfer without affecting calling ability???
this is crucial in my decision to buy
Appreciate your clear and quick responses.
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Settings > Wireless Controls > uncheck "Mobile Network" > Qapl'a!

you can even put a Mobile Network Toggle on the desktop to just switch it on and off.
Whilst off, you can still send and receive SMS and calls, but not MMS.
Dayzzz

Dayzee said:
you can even put a Mobile Network Toggle on the desktop to just switch it on and off.
Whilst off, you can still send and receive SMS and calls, but not MMS.
Dayzzz
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do i need to download a special application or is it a native one?
do i need to root the phone?

Thiesen said:
Settings > Wireless Controls > uncheck "Mobile Network" > Qapl'a!
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does shutting mobile network shut data only?

the toggle is native
no you don't need to root the phone
yes, it only shuts off mobile data (including MMS), this is why it's called mobile data, and not airplane mode. Wifi is unaffected.

Data Roaming
Hi everyone,
We've just started using the Hero at work as a business phone, a lot of our employees travel internationally on a regular basis.
Using our old WinMo phones, picking up emails whilst roaming was automatically disabled by default but could be manually sync'd with our exchange server if required.
On the Hero, there doesn't seem to be a similar function. You have to go in to the Mobile Network settings and disable 'Data Roaming'.
My question is, if I disable 'Data Roaming' but still have 'Enable Always-on Mobile Data' active, will any downloaded apps still be able to connect and update i.e Twitter gadget for instance? Or does disabling 'Data Roaming' stop data connections full stop?
The ideal scenario for us would be something that is quick and easy to turn off (or turn on) that would prevent any data connection but will let us open up the Mail app and sync manually with our exchange server if required (like we could with WinMo).
I currently have the Toggle Selector app on my home screen to quickly get to the Mobile Network settings. I'm just not sure what to enable/disable in the settings menu that will let me get mails manually and prevents all other data connections.
Any advice or suggestions would be more than welcome. It's got us scratching our heads a little and is stopping us from upgrading other staff phones as we don't want to end up with a phone we can't use as a business tool internationally as it costs us the earth in data roaming charges.

The easiest way i can think of would be to have the toggle on screen, and when you want to sync, you turn it on, manually refresh the emails and then turn it off again.
if you have data roaming blocked, it will override the 'always on mobile data' setting, so no, when roaming is turned off, nothing will connect when you are abroad.
honestly though, android is not ready for business really, which is why HTC are pitching it at the consumer market mainly.

I am in the same position, just want to be clear, with the "toggle" will it stop all data? (including browser, mms texts, apps updating) i only want these when i have wifi.
thanks in advance

to make it absolutely clear:
When at home,. turn mobile data off and NOTHING can access GPRS.
When roaming on another network when abroad, turn data roaming off and GPRS is blocked. To access GPRS, you have to turn data roaming AND mobile data on to access GPRS.
The Data roaming toggle has precedence over the Mobile data toggle.

Thank you, appreciate it

I have noticed toggling mobile networks occurs twice. What I mean is, after toggling a couple of times, I cannot seem to coonnect to 3g anymore? In that case I always have to restart my phone. Anyone experiencing this issue? It could be a bug. I used To have a blackberry bold and that bug was fixed by an update

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[Q] Data Roaming popup

In Settings->Wireless Networks->Mobile Networks,
I have "Data Roaming" unchecked.
I'm in an area when my weak-signal 2G connection on T-mobile frequently drops out and restores. Every time it restores, a popup graciously informs me: "Attention! Data Roaming will incur extra charges. Disable Data Roaming?" I must click yes to dismiss the window.
I don't get what part of the setting (Data Roaming: UNCHECKED) the OS doesn't understand!
Am I missing something or is there a special way to really disable data roaming or get rid of the popups?
thanks!
phone: vibrant JI6
Does it still show that it is connected to data when it is roaming?
chichu_9 said:
Does it still show that it is connected to data when it is roaming?
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I sometimes see the Edge symbol in the top row. I just figured out that a couple of other carriers are sometimes weakly picked up at my location. I have a pay-as-you-go tmo sim in the phone (unlocked). I thought data roaming was not a possibility anyhow (I'm a noob at this). I only want to use 2G for phone, and wireless for data.
What I'm really hoping for is to NOT be asked to disable data roaming, since I made that setting.
fritzthevan said:
I sometimes see the Edge symbol in the top row. I just figured out that a couple of other carriers are sometimes weakly picked up at my location. I have a pay-as-you-go tmo sim in the phone (unlocked). I thought data roaming was not a possibility anyhow (I'm a noob at this). I only want to use 2G for phone, and wireless for data.
What I'm really hoping for is to NOT be asked to disable data roaming, since I made that setting.
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Well here is a better option. Go into Settings>> Wireless and Network >> Mobile Networks >> Access Point Names >> Click on Menu & select New APN and create Dummy one. Then before selecting the back button make sure there the radio button for the dummy APN is selected. This should prevent you from connecting to Tmobile Data Services.
chichu_9 said:
Well here is a better option. Go into Settings>> Wireless and Network >> Mobile Networks >> Access Point Names >> Click on Menu & select New APN and create Dummy one. Then before selecting the back button make sure there the radio button for the dummy APN is selected. This should prevent you from connecting to Tmobile Data Services.
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Thanks. That seemed to have worked, in that I don't get the roaming popups anymore. It seems that it may prevent me from roaming on 2G as well, but I'm not sure - I'm trying to figure this out whilst in cellphone hinterlands (in the San Juan Islands where the locals hate cell towers). Now I'm getting a string of popups requesting that I automatically search for providers, even though I've set it to manually select tmo. What I'm hoping for is just tmo 2G for phonecalls and SMS, with no guff from the phone about it. My Razr does that just fine.
Tomorrow, I'll drive off to a more cell-friendly area and make a better determination.
Appreciate the help!
fritzthevan said:
Thanks. That seemed to have worked, in that I don't get the roaming popups anymore. It seems that it may prevent me from roaming on 2G as well, but I'm not sure - I'm trying to figure this out whilst in cellphone hinterlands (in the San Juan Islands where the locals hate cell towers). Now I'm getting a string of popups requesting that I automatically search for providers, even though I've set it to manually select tmo. What I'm hoping for is just tmo 2G for phonecalls and SMS, with no guff from the phone about it. My Razr does that just fine.
Tomorrow, I'll drive off to a more cell-friendly area and make a better determination.
Appreciate the help!
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I am glad it worked. Just set your phone to select automatically and you should be ok. Since you changed your APN, it will not connect to internet anymore using 3G. I know this coz, I used this while in Toronto last month.

Download MMS Pics w/ Network Data off?

Hi All,
My wife doesn't have a data plan for her Mini Pro, so we have the network data turned off.
She uses text/mms a lot and I wanted to see if there is a way to allow her MMS (Handcent) to access the network data to download pictures without allowing any other programs to access the network data.
Currently, when she receives an MMS, I turn on her network data, download the pic and then turn it back off. As you can imagine, it is not a long-term solution.
For all other data, she uses wifi -
I appreciate any help/insights you all may have!
Afaik, MMS uses a separate apn from data connections. Meaning you could totally turn off data and she would still be able to use MMS. As to your question, Permissions Denied or LBE Privacy Guard might be what you're looking for.
This may be an issue specific to AT&T in the US, but to receive picture messages on their network, you need to enable the network data.
For text messages, they will come and go even with the data turned off as they are routed seperately.
I'll see if the programs you recommended might be a way for me to restrict all network data access except to mms -
I have the same problem using Telcel in Mexico.
I do the same thing as you do to your wife's phone, sadly I haven't found a workaround. Good thing is we get notified when we receive a MMS so we know when to enable it.
You can add a widget or use the status bar to turn data on/off with a single touch, I think that's the fastest way without leaving it on all the time.
I forgot to mention APNdroid. Just search for it on the market. It disables the network connection by modifying the APN.
I saw this posted elsewhere on XDA and it seemed to work so far (I'll let you know after I receive my bill at the end of the month).
"Go into apn settings. If you have only one for data and mms, then edit it, and right at the end "apn type" probably says "default " or perhaps "*" or maybe "default,supl,mms "
Change that to say just "mms"
If you have two entries one will be for default,supl and will have a on off toggle, the second will be for mms and won't have a toggle. Just toggle off the data one or edit out the default in apn type."
When I launched the web browser it said I was not connected to the internet, but I was still able to send and receive picture messages.
Original thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=912719

Question on data usuage.

Hi all, i've been having this problem with my Sony Ericson xperia Play.
My bills came in as a hefty $$ bomb. I do not have data plan, so all internet activities are charged at GPRS connection rate. I've had my mobile network switched off, so there's no possibility that applications would still connect to data? Or there is? i only use my phone for smsing and dealing calls.
I called my service provider up, and they told me that my phone's internet activity is active and running. have you guys ever encountered such problem? Could anyone please enlighten me?
Thanks in advance to all.
Usually there arent any problems like this for android. And just to
make sure, the box u checked off was in Settings>Wireless & Networks>
Mobile Networks>Data enabled right?
Normally once you get a phone, the data will automatically on. So normally I will boot up without sim at first, then switch off data.
(I've unlimited plan btw)
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Dataslycer said:
Usually there arent any problems like this for android. And just to
make sure, the box u checked off was in Settings>Wireless & Networks>
Mobile Networks>Data enabled right?
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Yes it was unticked.
melvinchng said:
Normally once you get a phone, the data will automatically on. So normally I will boot up without sim at first, then switch off data.
(I've unlimited plan btw)
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Hmm normally on as in, everytime you switched it on. The data runs automatically even when i unticked Data Enabled??
Droidwall
You could always use an app that will not allow any apps to access the network. ie a firewall like (droid wall for rooted users). That would eliminate your problem. There are many apps out there which need permission to access the network, including the stock email, google maps, the market, and etc.
I'm of the same mind as the previous posters. But if you see data being used ie. the 3G symbol or whatever your data symbol is and it lights up or is present when the check mark on mobile data is off then it's not actually off. In other words if you don't see only the cell singal bars you could be using data. Hope that helps.
Edit: Also you said "SMSing" would that also include pictures or video in your defn of that? If so those are data. At least in the U.S. they are.
There is a program called APNdraoid or sg like that. this program modifies the apn settings and dont allow your phone to connect to mobile internet. btw you can manually change the apn settings from Settings->Wireless&Networks-> Mobile Networks->Access Point Names. all you have to do is to modify the settings (add some text to the end of the apn row)
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To avoid data charges (and seems that you don't have a data plan), I would suggest delete all your APN settings under Access Point Name in Mobile network settings.
If the problem still occurs, you can call your operator to disable internet access from your mobile account.
leftfieldhero said:
You could always use an app that will not allow any apps to access the network. ie a firewall like (droid wall for rooted users). That would eliminate your problem. There are many apps out there which need permission to access the network, including the stock email, google maps, the market, and etc.
I'm of the same mind as the previous posters. But if you see data being used ie. the 3G symbol or whatever your data symbol is and it lights up or is present when the check mark on mobile data is off then it's not actually off. In other words if you don't see only the cell singal bars you could be using data. Hope that helps.
Edit: Also you said "SMSing" would that also include pictures or video in your defn of that? If so those are data. At least in the U.S. they are.
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nope just plain text, in sg pictures and vid would be charged too.
PsHegger said:
There is a program called APNdraoid or sg like that. this program modifies the apn settings and dont allow your phone to connect to mobile internet. btw you can manually change the apn settings from Settings->Wireless&Networks-> Mobile Networks->Access Point Names. all you have to do is to modify the settings (add some text to the end of the apn row)
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tjfoo said:
To avoid data charges (and seems that you don't have a data plan), I would suggest delete all your APN settings under Access Point Name in Mobile network settings.
If the problem still occurs, you can call your operator to disable internet access from your mobile account.
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Thanks for the suggestions ! i'd just go ahead and change the apn ! But i still can't find the root to the problem. It's like paying for something i had never used at all ..
Btw, I am curious that if you tried to load a webpage in your browser when mobile network is unticked? If you did, does it load?

Disabling ALL roaming?

It's relatively easy to disable data roaming on an Android device in the "Wireless & networks" settings section, but the phone still tries to connect to other services via roaming like voice and SMS. Is there a way to disable ALL roaming whatsoever? I know about airplane mode, but that completely disables all connectivity, and it's also annoying to have to remember to keep turning airplane mode off and on again when I enter/leave the vicinity of this network. I'd like to be able to connect to my network but not allow any roaming.
Why disable? Becuase the network offering the roaming isn't one I trust, as I think it may be intercepting and recording my data. So I don't want my phone to use it.
It seems Windows Mobile has a relatively straightforward to do this by selecting "Don't roam". If Android doesn't have any option to do this (no, not Airplane mode - that disables ALL comms!), then that is a rather annoying lack of a feature!
This might not be the answer you are looking for but your operator should provide some means to prevent roaming completely; your phone then would not be able to access any other network for any service apart from emergency call.

[Q] Can rooting disable international roaming?

My venerable Samsung Galaxy S i9000 (rooted, Android 4.2.2 using CyanogenMod 10.1.2 ROM, on Virgin UK) has always served me very well when roaming abroad, and up to last year I had no problems with data connections. I'm just back from France, and could not get any data connection for the entire 2 weeks I was away (I bought a travel pass of course, and got confirmation of validity). This is totally unprecedented. I spent hours on the phone (calls and texts were OK) to Virgin, who variously said they needed to refresh my account settings at their end, then that there were known European network issues, and then that the problem was with the phone. I was told to turn on international roaming, but I don't have that option. The options at Settings>networks>mobile networks are:
Data enabled - ticked
Data roaming - ticked
National data roaming - ticked
Access point names
Use only 2G networks - unticked
Network operators
I don't have anything called international data roaming, and indeed have never seen this on any Android version I have ever had. I have seen images of other phones where `data roaming' is replaced by `international data roaming', and I'm sure there is no technical difference. Roaming is roaming surely?
I am very suspicious that there is actually nothing wrong with my phone, and that something odd is going on with Virgin. The reason is that last year I was running Android ICS using a different ROM, and mobile data kept turning off. This went on for over a week until Virgin found it was their fault and fixed it. At that time they never mentioned international roaming. I've done the usual searches and not turned up anything useful. There can't be anything wrong with the handset because data access turned straight back on when I got back to the UK. Can anyone shed any light?
Hmm. Calls and texts were working though, just not data? And it wasn't an APN setting? I'm assuming they had you check those. Did it show you were connected to data but there was no data transfer? In Settings > About Phone > Status - what would it say? Disconnected? You've used the phone on that other network before? It's possible that the other carrier's data frequencies aren't supported by the phone.
es0tericcha0s said:
Hmm. Calls and texts were working though, just not data? And it wasn't an APN setting? I'm assuming they had you check those. Did it show you were connected to data but there was no data transfer? In Settings > About Phone > Status - what would it say? Disconnected? You've used the phone on that other network before? It's possible that the other carrier's data frequencies aren't supported by the phone.
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Yes they got me to check all settings and all were OK, except that according to Virgin there should be this `international data roaming' option which I don't have. The signal strength icon on the home screen showed a little R not a little H as normal. So I don't think there was any data connection. My key question though is whether there is any evidence at all that rooting affects roaming. I've been searching the web for over a week and found nothing about that. Frankly I don't believe it.

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