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I swear the black plastic on the bottom back of the phone is engineered to get "scuffed" the first time you set it down . Other than that I have some lint in the little gap between the screen and the metal rim around the front.
I'm not going to use cases or screen protectors so all of this can be expected, just wondering how everyone else's is holding up? Any drops yet?
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I swear the black plastic on the bottom back of the phone is engineered to get "scuffed" the first time you set it down
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Definately falls in to the "what the hell were they thinking" category.
I'm not going to use cases or screen protectors
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Wow, then I'm guessing we should all come back to this post in a month because you're proably our best durablity test example.
I HIGHLY recoomend a silicon case; protects the phone greatly, and makes it more sturdy to hold!
I got a complete package when I bought my GS2 for 5 euro.. A white and black silicon case, car charger and screen protector. Even though it isnt beautiful, I always keep my GS2 protected by a case
holding out for invisible shield now...
Absolutely fine for me, no marks whatsoever, no slow down of the software.
Have got a little dust around the edges between the edge and the screen.
i never use cases or screen protectors wether in mint or sh*t condition after 1 year who cares its time to upgrade.
sold my SGS after one year for AUD$350 and i never used a case or anything. (hopping to do the same next year with my SGS ii
Don't have any scratches or scuffs on it yet, but that's pure luck...I've managed to drop it twice and both times it landed on something soft. I love the phone but holding it can be a little awkward at times, it's angular shape and width does mean that I often have to shift my hands to accommodate it.
For that reason, I've put on a screen protector and I'm now waiting for an SGP Ultra Capsule Case to arrive. I'm hoping that will make it a bit more 'grippy' and less likely to slip out of my hands. My biggest concern is the camera lens, it seems terribly exposed there on the back of the device and it feels like I could damage it just by putting it down a bit too strongly.
Dropped mine 12 days ago. A juggle managed to launch it to a height of 5ft and then it landed totally flat screen down onto concrete with small stones on it. Shattered glass and non-working LCD.
Still waiting for Samsung to supply a replacement.
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Dropped mine 12 days ago. A juggle managed to launch it to a height of 5ft and then it landed totally flat screen down onto concrete with small stones on it. Shattered glass and non-working LCD.
Still waiting for Samsung to supply a replacement.
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.... .. my condolences. Something like that is the only reason I sometimes fantasize about getting a case.
The dust between the screen, how do we get it out? wet qtip?
I got 1 tiny scratch on the bezel around the headphone jack. It happen the second day I had the phone. I've lost hope in the couple screen protectors I've ordered. I just ordered a zagg full body protector. I've got an a official samsung case coming now.
But I have never heavily damaged a phone besides my hd2. I'm like 48 out of 50 in keeping phones in great condition while not using a consistent case.
I truly hate the silver cheap bezel on all phones. Usually the only thing I tend to scratch.
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Mine has a slightly weird hardware quirk since I first got it - the chrome border around the glass is slightly raised above the glass on right, but slightly below the glass on the left. It's like the glass is a bit angled / tilted up on the left.
Anyone else have this?
Nope mine is fine.
No scratches, have been using it for a month. I always put it on a cloth on my desk when I'm at home.
The dust between the glass and the plastic border annoys the **** out of me. I try to scrape it out with a needle, but they're too thick.
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Nope mine is fine.
No scratches, have been using it for a month. I always put it on a cloth on my desk when I'm at home.
The dust between the glass and the plastic border annoys the **** out of me. I try to scrape it out with a needle, but they're too thick.
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no scratches at all for me...but the dust could be removed with patience and soft brush mate.. i use one that came with my philips shave - just a tip
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Nope mine is fine.
No scratches, have been using it for a month. I always put it on a cloth on my desk when I'm at home.
The dust between the glass and the plastic border annoys the **** out of me. I try to scrape it out with a needle, but they're too thick.
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To remove the dust between the screen and the border all you need is compressed air. I was trying to get it out tonight by using my fingernail through a microfiber cloth to no effect. I pulled out my compressed air and that got it all out instantly.
On another note, I'm using the official Galaxy S II case until my Invisible Shield arrives in the next couple of days, hoping to convert totally to that and not have to use a case.
Can't you remove the dust in there with a can of compressed air and one of those straw attachments? Actually I might go out and buy one.
I definitely agree with the raised bottom on the back of the phone; mine's scuffed quite heavily although the front of the phone is fine, and IMO that's all that matters. A phone's meant to be used and it'll get scratches and whatnot over time.
I've got a feeling i'll be replacing this further down the track anyway since most of my phones don't look too healthy after the 18 month mark. Also have full insurance/warranty cover...if I happen to lose it they'll issue me a new one. Gotta love Korean telcos.
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Mine has a slightly weird hardware quirk since I first got it - the chrome border around the glass is slightly raised above the glass on right, but slightly below the glass on the left. It's like the glass is a bit angled / tilted up on the left.
Anyone else have this?
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Mine is the EXACT same way, I was wondering if it was just mine. Good to know its just a quirk of the phone.
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To remove the dust between the screen and the border all you need is compressed air. I was trying to get it out tonight by using my fingernail through a microfiber cloth to no effect. I pulled out my compressed air and that got it all out instantly.
On another note, I'm using the official Galaxy S II case until my Invisible Shield arrives in the next couple of days, hoping to convert totally to that and not have to use a case.
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The dust can be removed with a piece of paper too.
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AXIS of Reality said:
Mine has a slightly weird hardware quirk since I first got it - the chrome border around the glass is slightly raised above the glass on right, but slightly below the glass on the left. It's like the glass is a bit angled / tilted up on the left.
Anyone else have this?
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So your border is crome? I ask as mine as a black border
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tiny scratch at the back, at the plastic bump, fine elsewhere
apparently i own the DIRTIEST house in the world. ran the shower on hot for 15 minutes, and used 4, count em, FOUR microfiber "lint free" cloths directly from the package to my primes screen and wasted THREE screen protectors because there was more dirt, dust, and lint on my screen than a dryer sheet. soooooo, eff it. ill just pray the gorilla glass holds up. my phone didnt. but whatever. lol youve been warned, dont put on your screen protectors at my house...
You know those micro fiber cloths that are included are pretty crappy. Nine times out of ten they are your problem. I've noticed that some of then leave behind small micro particles.
I've found compressed air works really well to clear dust and diet when trying to put on a protector
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apparently i own the DIRTIEST house in the world. ran the shower on hot for 15 minutes, and used 4, count em, FOUR microfiber "lint free" cloths directly from the package to my primes screen and wasted THREE screen protectors because there was more dirt, dust, and lint on my screen than a dryer sheet. soooooo, eff it. ill just pray the gorilla glass holds up. my phone didnt. but whatever. lol youve been warned, dont put on your screen protectors at my house...
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You should have washed those Microfiber cloths a couple of times before you tried to get your screen perfectly lint-free. A lot of times there are lose fibers from the manufacturing process caught in the surface of those "lint-free" microfiber cloths, but they usually disappear after the cloths have been laundered.
Also, if you really want to get your screen perfectly clean you would be better off using a pre-moistened eye-glass cleaning cloth. They come in little foil packets like wet-naps and are 100% lint free and contain a mild solvent that will help remove any surface contaminant or dust. This kind of treatment might be overkill, (usually a damp microfiber works just as well) but it is almost guaranteed to get your screen clean enough to put a skin on with no trouble
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You should have washed those Microfiber cloths a couple of times before you tried to get your screen perfectly lint-free. A lot of times there are lose fibers from the manufacturing process caught in the surface of those "lint-free" microfiber cloths, but they usually disappear after the cloths have been laundered.
Also, if you really want to get your screen perfectly clean you would be better off using a pre-moistened eye-glass cleaning cloth. They come in little foil packets like wet-naps and are 100% lint free and contain a mild solvent that will help remove any surface contaminant or dust. This kind of treatment might be overkill, (usually a damp microfiber works just as well) but it is almost guaranteed to get your screen clean enough to put a skin on with no trouble
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at this point, there is no such thing as over kill lol i want it done right dammit!
i actually have those eye glass cloths... and i ordered more screen protectors. thank you for the idea! also, ill be buying compressed air too lol...
I would recommend a screen protector. I believed the hype about gorilla glass and have lots of surface scratches in my screen now. I am now convinced that they never put gorilla glass on my prime. All the scratches I have gotten are from cleaning finger prints off my screen with a microfibre cloth I bought at Best Buy. I went to Best Buy yesterday to complain to them. They of course told me that my screen was scratched because of customer abuse. So I put some more fingerprints on my screen and told them to show me how to use the cloth on clean my screen. The guy took to cloth and wiped off my screen and bam, brand new scratches right along the side and bottom of the screen. The rep told me that wasnt right. He tried on screens of the display model and it never scratched. He took his keys and rubbed them on the screen and no scratches. I took my fingernail and rubbed in on the bezel of my prime and it scratched easily. Its like my screen is made from plexiglass or something. They contacted Asus Support for me and they want me to rma my tablet. Now I am scared that they are going to charge me to replace the screen claiming it is customer abuse.
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I would recommend a screen protector. I believed the hype about gorilla glass and have lots of surface scratches in my screen now. I am now convinced that they never put gorilla glass on my prime. All the scratches I have gotten are from cleaning finger prints off my screen with a microfibre cloth I bought at Best Buy. I went to Best Buy yesterday to complain to them. They of course told me that my screen was scratched because of customer abuse. So I put some more fingerprints on my screen and told them to show me how to use the cloth on clean my screen. The guy took to cloth and wiped off my screen and bam, brand new scratches right along the side and bottom of the screen. The rep told me that wasnt right. He tried on screens of the display model and it never scratched. He took his keys and rubbed them on the screen and no scratches. I took my fingernail and rubbed in on the bezel of my prime and it scratched easily. Its like my screen is made from plexiglass or something. They contacted Asus Support for me and they want me to rma my tablet. Now I am scared that they are going to charge me to replace the screen claiming it is customer abuse.
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Doesn't sound right. I've been very impressed by the Gorrila glass protection and I'm very surprised I do not have any scratches. I clean mine with a lint-free cloth also micro fiber all the time and there are no scratches. My screen almost looks wet when I finish cleaning it. I do love the screen.
Its funny you did that. I did that to a set of 3. Each one, I tried and had dust under the film screen protector. $12.00 down the toilet.
I did succeed after going to the dining room table, wiping it down with a damp cloth, used a short sleeve t-shirt, and a can of canned air.
So out of 6 screen protectors, I finally got one on perfect......
spend the money for a quality protector, Zagg, Ishield, etc. any of those "military grade" type protectors, usually are applied with a spray that activates the glue... After using one of these i will never go back to the cheap ones, they pretty much never wear out, are a hell of a lot easier to apply, and look better in the end because no air bubbles!
Also, Gorilla Glass can suck my left testicle, my SGS2 has a couple scratches because of the cleaning cloth i used (mocrofiber my ass), when i worked SELLING cell phones the demo phones (atrix, SGS1, iphone, etc) that we always carried in our pockets had the screens covered in scratches. Scratch resistant maybe, but definately not scratch proof.
A screen protector was the first thing i put on my prime. After what i have seen its worth the $20 investment.
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Its funny you did that. I did that to a set of 3. Each one, I tried and had dust under the film screen protector. $12.00 down the toilet.
I did succeed after going to the dining room table, wiping it down with a damp cloth, used a short sleeve t-shirt, and a can of canned air.
So out of 6 screen protectors, I finally got one on perfect......
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this is exactly my situation... bought 3 more... theyll be here tuesday...
so far, my shopping list consists of a new microfiber cloth, a can of air (or 5), and some wet eye glass cloths
im really even willing to pay some kid to do this for me, thats how frustrated i am lol...
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spend the money for a quality protector, Zagg, Ishield, etc. any of those "military grade" type protectors, usually are applied with a spray that activates the glue... After using one of these i will never go back to the cheap ones, they pretty much never wear out, are a hell of a lot easier to apply, and look better in the end because no air bubbles!
Also, Gorilla Glass can suck my left testicle, my SGS2 has a couple scratches because of the cleaning cloth i used (mocrofiber my ass), when i worked SELLING cell phones the demo phones (atrix, SGS1, iphone, etc) that we always carried in our pockets had the screens covered in scratches. Scratch resistant maybe, but definately not scratch proof.
A screen protector was the first thing i put on my prime. After what i have seen its worth the $20 investment.
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exactly. my eoic 4g touch has ''gorilla glass'' and more scratches on it that my samsung moment did... im not chancing it any more. and i REALLY need to get good at this before sgp comes out with one, since i dont want $30 for ONE protector down the drain...
Wow, what do you people do to your devices to scratch them so much? I have had my Droid charge for over six months and had my Samsung fascinate for near a full year before that and neither have a single scratch on them. In and out of my pockets all day every day, even dropped both of them on concrete more than once. I also clean my screen with my shirt and my jeans and have no issues at all. Even my prime I rub on my tshirt to wipe off the finger prints and screen is still flawless.
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Wow, what do you people do to your devices to scratch them so much? I have had my Droid charge for over six months and had my Samsung fascinate for near a full year before that and neither have a single scratch on them. In and out of my pockets all day every day, even dropped both of them on concrete more than once. I also clean my screen with my shirt and my jeans and have no issues at all. Even my prime I rub on my tshirt to wipe off the finger prints and screen is still flawless.
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It's simple, just because you haven't gotten scratches doesn't mean you won't necessarily get them. You can close your eyes and walk across the street and not get hit by a car, that doesn't mean you're immune to car accidents.
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Wow, what do you people do to your devices to scratch them so much? I have had my Droid charge for over six months and had my Samsung fascinate for near a full year before that and neither have a single scratch on them. In and out of my pockets all day every day, even dropped both of them on concrete more than once. I also clean my screen with my shirt and my jeans and have no issues at all. Even my prime I rub on my tshirt to wipe off the finger prints and screen is still flawless.
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My prime came with plexiglass like screen not gorilla glass. I've had my Samsung Captivate for a year and a half and screen still looks flawless. I treat my prime with much more care and I have hundreds of scratches from using a microfiber cloth to clean off my fingerprints. Evertime I clean my screen I get new scratches. I wiped a pop bottle with my cloth and it didn't scratch. The plastic of a pop bottle is more scratch resistent than my prime. Sending it in to Asus to fix. Bad batch of gorilla glass or something.
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After hearing the stories here I'm glad the first thing I did was slap a screen protector on. I found a dual pack on ebay for $9 called S-Shieldz. They were wet applied. I grabbed my glasses cleaning kit, sprayed some of the solution on, lined up the screen protector quite easily, squeegied out the excess liquid and waited 24-48 hours for the haze to go away and now its fully protected. There are 1 or 2 minor flaws in the screen protector that look like dust under but they're actually just knicks in the plastic. I only ended up with 1 particle underneath and its not on the visible part of the screen so I don't really care.
For being $9 with free shipping the quality is quite nice. Its glossy without the orange peel texture. I have no issues with touch sensativity.
Glad to know that I'm not the only one... I only ruined two screen protectors. Haha. I got really close to getting the second one perfect, but ended up with a bunch of particles under it as well. Guess I wouldn't recommend trying to put one on at my place either. I'll look into the other screen protectors that are wet applied mentioned in this thread.
I got a skanomi protector. Got it on perfect.
I cleaned the screen really good with 5 microfiber cloths. Then put the screen protector on top of it still stuck to the paper it came on and pt a piece of plastic I wiped off with a microfiber cloth.
I took a nice hot steamy shower. Bout 20 mins.
Took the protector of its sheet and sprayed on all of the solution and lined it up. I used a single fly cardboard credit card (like the examples they send you in the mail) to squeegee the excess fluid out starting from the middle going out.
After about an hour, I noticed a particle in the middle of the screen. So I took it off, used a very fine pair of tweezers to get the particle off. The second time, I dunked the protector in a sink full of water with a couple drops of soap in it (thats all the 'solution' really is).
Perfect.
I guess I should mention that I had my TFP OFF during the process and 24 hours after.
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My prime came with plexiglass like screen not gorilla glass. I've had my Samsung Captivate for a year and a half and screen still looks flawless. I treat my prime with much more care and I have hundreds of scratches from using a microfiber cloth to clean off my fingerprints. Evertime I clean my screen I get new scratches. I wiped a pop bottle with my cloth and it didn't scratch. The plastic of a pop bottle is more scratch resistent than my prime. Sending it in to Asus to fix. Bad batch of gorilla glass or something.
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Yeah something is definitely up with your glass, that is just not right.
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It's simple, just because you haven't gotten scratches doesn't mean you won't necessarily get them. You can close your eyes and walk across the street and not get hit by a car, that doesn't mean you're immune to car accidents.
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State the obvious with sarcasm much? Thanks for this utter flash of brilliance, never would have come to that conclusion on my own... may want to give it another read and try actual comprehension of it this time.
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State the obvious with sarcasm much? Thanks for this utter flash of brilliance, never would have come to that conclusion on my own... may want to give it another read and try actual comprehension of it this time.
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Haha I got it, you've been lucky your devices haven't gotten scratched. Were all very happy for you haha
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bought a cheap pack of 3 for like 2.99 took 3 attempts but the 3rd worked perfect, used the screen cleaner that came with my prime
Hi All,
A tale of warning/caution...
Last night my Razr Maxx fell off of my lap and onto the wooden floor. Literally a fall of less than 2 feet. Even though I have a case on it, the screen cracked all the way down the middle.
This seems awfully fragile for "gorilla" glass. Anyone else with an issue? Manufacturer defect?
I'm right there with you...~2 foot drop, happened a few months ago.
Here's carnage:
Science Ninja said:
Hi All,
A tale of warning/caution...
Last night my Razr Maxx fell off of my lap and onto the wooden floor. Literally a fall of less than 2 feet. Even though I have a case on it, the screen cracked all the way down the middle.
This seems awfully fragile for "gorilla" glass. Anyone else with an issue? Manufacturer defect?
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There are many, many complaints of this. Not unusual story at all.
Gorilla glass is still glass. When impact comes from the side or corner, it will still break. This is why some of us drop the phone and it's ok, because it depends on the angle where it's dropped.
For those who paid attention in school, you know that when things are hard, they are brittle.
Gorilla Glass is great the problem is because of the increased strength the manufacturers feel they can use thinner glass and end up making it to thin.
Also thats not much of a case, is it soft or hard plastic?
I think the main purpose of gorilla glass is to prevent scratches. The hardened glass is still going to shatter if dropped...
Also looks like you're case only covers the sides. It appears (correct me if i'm wrong) that the corners of you're phone are exposed, and that the screen has almost no coverage. Good looking case but if it doesn't keep the phone safer...
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My experience is different - I dropped my razr twice and I feel very lucky
The first time it felt of my desk on the tiled floor screen down and not even a scratch
the second was from my chest pocket on the cement pavement - got two tiny scrathes on the botom left of the screen.
My HD2 has a Gglass too and cracked on the first fall. I had better luck after the replacement...
Dropped my Razr from 4 feet up onto concrete, corner hit first, then flipped a couple of times.
No damage.
It depends on the case.
Looks like the good ole TPU case. As others have stated nothing is perfect and imo no matter what case sometimes shiznit happens.
That being said and being the clumsy person i am i have dropped my razr various times in my otterbox commuter and haven't had a problem.
People seem to forget that the most notoriously fragile phone on earth (hint: it's slightly fruity and has a 4 in the name) is made from Gorilla Glass on two sides. It's still glass.
I keep the pictures from these threads to show people who think I'm crazy for using an OtterBox. Haven't had to replace a phone since i started using them.
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otterbox ftw!!!
Monkey glass my walnuts
I was also very disappointed with the promises of gorilla glass. it seems to shatter, chips, and scratches just a little less than regular glass. manufacturers also seem to be using very thin pieces for the digitizers.
I think that monkey glass is a brand recognition like pyrex is to borosilicate. you don't buy borosilicate bowls, you buy pyrex.
Manufactures probably pay a steep tax to incorporate monkey glass in their products. To cut costs they might be using thinner layers than appropriate.
Just go to alibaba.com or dhgate.com and buy a tempered glass digitizer for like 20 to 30 dollars. Heck, buy two for good measure and to save on shipping.
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Gorilla Glass is great the problem is because of the increased strength the manufacturers feel they can use thinner glass and end up making it to thin.
Also thats not much of a case, is it soft or hard plastic?
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Just a soft case, but it does cover the sides (see picture). As mentioned, my guess is because of the angle (right on the bottom left corner).
Some one here recommended the Otterbox Commuter. Is that the consensus on the case with which to go?
Thanks for the input!
Yes gorilla glass is strong but not bullet proof like the Kevlar back "hint of sarcasm"
People have already mentioned about manufacturing and size is one of the issues.
Corning are going to push v2 soon it'll be double strength but half thickness ;-)
Screen protector and a camping pouch for cycling down top all's good.
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Science Ninja said:
Just a soft case, but it does cover the sides (see picture). As mentioned, my guess is because of the angle (right on the bottom left corner).
Some one here recommended the Otterbox Commuter. Is that the consensus on the case with which to go?
Thanks for the input!
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I've got the commuter case, it looks great, can't speak to protection factor as I have been fortunate enough to have not dropped it YET, every other touchscreen device I've owned has been dropped atleast once but in recent years I have gotten better at not dropping (after losing a 400 dollar archos 5 to a fall in the gravel driveway).
My brother got the defender case and within the first week it got snagged and pulled off and in his words went across the room, and here we are some 3 months later and its still working great, if your crazy worried about the screen, and your one of those guys that like belt clips (I don't) go with the defender as the phone can be placed in the belt clip screen in creating a full "shell" around the phone.
Also that 4 mentioned above with gorilla on both sides, LOL, has notoriously thin sheets of gorilla glass, which is why they break so easy.
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Just a soft case, but it does cover the sides (see picture). As mentioned, my guess is because of the angle (right on the bottom left corner).
Some one here recommended the Otterbox Commuter. Is that the consensus on the case with which to go?
Thanks for the input!
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I and my daughter both have otterbox commuter's on our razrs. I've been luck enough (*knock on wood*) to not have dropped mine yet. But my daughter has dropped hers enough in parking lots, driveways, classrooms, etc to more than have paid for both and her razr is still perfect.
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I and my daughter both have otterbox commuter's on our razrs. I've been luck enough (*knock on wood*) to not have dropped mine yet. But my daughter has dropped hers enough in parking lots, driveways, classrooms, etc to more than have paid for both and her razr is still perfect.
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A kid with a razr is definitively proof enought of resistence.
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I accidentally threw my phone across the room over a football match. Lol Bounced off my bed, off the wall and onto a wooden floor. All was fine thankfully.
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I think the main purpose of gorilla glass is to prevent scratches. The hardened glass is still going to shatter if dropped...
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This. Yes. This is still glass. Now, if they could make Gorilla Plexiglass, then you might have a semi dropproof phone.
So i have read rants on the Z1 having self breaking glass, and alittle on the ultra. Most of the threads on the ultra though have been, slight to moderate abuse (sat on)(backpack of stuff) causing breaks. Not the classic Z1 of "took phone out of front pocket". My normal routine is only having the phone in my front pocket when going from my desk to the car. Other than that its on my desk or left in my car (i hate walking around with a phone in my pants).
Mines coming this week and i kinda want to take some preventive steps, and wondering if sony really is replacing "not blown to bits" screens under warranty in at least the USA.
I hear it comes with a factory "screen protector" that you should leave on, and put another screen protector on top of it. Is that true or is the factory protector just the stock "tabbed" film that should be removed right after opening the box? I have a front/back screen protector coming, but wanted to know if i should peel off the factory one first.
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So i have read rants on the Z1 having self breaking glass, and alittle on the ultra. Most of the threads on the ultra though have been, slight to moderate abuse (sat on)(backpack of stuff) causing breaks. Not the classic Z1 of "took phone out of front pocket". My normal routine is only having the phone in my front pocket when going from my desk to the car. Other than that its on my desk or left in my car (i hate walking around with a phone in my pants).
Mines coming this week and i kinda want to take some preventive steps, and wondering if sony really is replacing "not blown to bits" screens under warranty in at least the USA.
I hear it comes with a factory "screen protector" that you should leave on, and put another screen protector on top of it. Is that true or is the factory protector just the stock "tabbed" film that should be removed right after opening the box? I have a front/back screen protector coming, but wanted to know if i should peel off the factory one first.
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one year in, and no glass breaking
your routine won't break the phone, i'm sure
screen protector, i have one on top of the anti shatter film provided with the phone, both front and back, and both scratched to hell, but too lazy to replace
Definitely put a aftermarket screen protector over the anti shatter film. The ASF is too soft, but is a pain in the arse to remove by all accounts
I've had my ZU for about 9 months now and have dropped it 3 times onto concrete, once without any screen proctor or case, the other two times has been with a wallet/flip case. The last time I dropped it the case even broke - still the screen is intact.
I too thought it wont happen to mine, till it really did, of course it's not self breaking glass for no reason, but more likely the most logical reason I could think of is, the stress accumulated from the daily use, a bit of pressure while in pocket, or backpack, along with the heat / cold temperature, whatever other bull crap from regular use, over a period of time, that stress cause the glass to be broken.
I pretty much babied my Z Ultra, have back casing, Glass M on the front, Skinomi on the back, never dropped, all in like new condition. Then last Sunday I was on my bike ride, put it inside my backpack, along with my wallet, then couple hours later, took it out from my backpack only to find the glass, under the M Glass screen protector, under the original ASF, has a hairline crack, and pretty much as good as brick, since it wont register any touch, I can see a call coming in, but cant answer it since the display doesnt work.
OP said it happens with Z1, I read that it happens with Z2, and it happens with my Z Ultra, so I think it's just something on their glass quality along with their full glass design, it is impacting a small number of them, not all, just small number, but still the problem indeed does exists.
But I still buy another Z Ultra in a heart beat without much thinking, as a matter of fact already got another one from expensys, with the price is so cheap now, the smoothness, the crisp display, the waterproofness, it still worth every penny.
Mine broke in the pocket, and so did others.
It can break. But with that said, the risk yours will break in the pocket with no abuse is small.
Sony aren't very consistent in handling these cases. Sometimes they get it fixed on warranty, sometimes they're not. But if you get a first negative answer just send in a complaint and they might turn around (as in my case).
I just got mine back. I had the asf removed on the previous one, I'm not taking it off now. And I'm doubling up with tempered glass protectors.
i personally recommend removal of the anti shater layer, if you live in humid climates, as it can cause the residual moisture and oils from your fingers to cause key presses. i had a bad issue with this till i spend an hour with a razor blade removing it.
some people also claim that removing the layer voids your warranty, but i had the phone replaced about a month back with my extended warranty and had no issues with replacement regardless of having the film removed.
boystuff said:
i personally recommend removal of the anti shater layer, if you live in humid climates, as it can cause the residual moisture and oils from your fingers to cause key presses. i had a bad issue with this till i spend an hour with a razor blade removing it.
some people also claim that removing the layer voids your warranty, but i had the phone replaced about a month back with my extended warranty and had no issues with replacement regardless of having the film removed.
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There is so much wrong with this post.
boystuff said:
i personally recommend removal of the anti shater layer, if you live in humid climates, as it can cause the residual moisture and oils from your fingers to cause key presses. i had a bad issue with this till i spend an hour with a razor blade removing it.
some people also claim that removing the layer voids your warranty, but i had the phone replaced about a month back with my extended warranty and had no issues with replacement regardless of having the film removed.
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i live right on the equator, and have not had any problems with this (i also use a screen protector on top of the antishatter film). do you mean to say by removing the anti-shatter film, the glass doesn't pick up any fingerprints and oil? a screen can only be oleophobic for so long.
To those who have had the screen crack in their pockets: were you using a hard case to provide rigidity to the device?
I also just received a Z Ultra and read through the massive threads on Sony's forums on these problems. It just seems the device is so thin it has too much flex in the pocket. I'm even hesitant to use the leather flipstyle case if it doesn'tt provide enough rigidity.
I'm thinking maybe the aluminum bumper case with GlassM protectors on both sides would work nicely together. Hopefully the aluminum won't degrade the signal quality too harshly.
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To those who have had the screen crack in their pockets: were you using a hard case to provide rigidity to the device?
I also just received a Z Ultra and read through the massive threads on Sony's forums on these problems. It just seems the device is so thin it has too much flex in the pocket. I'm even hesitant to use the leather flipstyle case if it doesn'tt provide enough rigidity.
I'm thinking maybe the aluminum bumper case with GlassM protectors on both sides would work nicely together. Hopefully the aluminum won't degrade the signal quality too harshly.
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Those hair thin aluminum bumper cases wont do squat, the thick glassM m shields wont do squat. The device is just too long and think. Your best bet is to treat it like a full size tablet. Dont sit with it in your pocket, dont put it in your bag without being in a separate compartment. The poor thing is like 1/4" thick and made out of aluminum and glass. I still dont know why they choose this glass. I can take my droid incredible with gorilla glass and pound the screen on the corner of a desk over and over, no scratches. This sony phone just doesnt have any flex for the glass.
I just through an iLLumiShield on the front and back so i can throw it on the table and not worry about scratches.
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Those hair thin aluminum bumper cases wont do squat, the thick glassM m shields wont do squat. The device is just too long and think. Your best bet is to treat it like a full size tablet. Dont sit with it in your pocket, dont put it in your bag without being in a separate compartment. The poor thing is like 1/4" thick and made out of aluminum and glass. I still dont know why they choose this glass. I can take my droid incredible with gorilla glass and pound the screen on the corner of a desk over and over, no scratches. This sony phone just doesnt have any flex for the glass.
I just through an iLLumiShield on the front and back so i can throw it on the table and not worry about scratches.
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But if flex is the issue then wouldn't a solid metal frame that doesn't bend around the perimeter of the phone rectify such concern?
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But if flex is the issue then wouldn't a solid metal frame that doesn't bend around the perimeter of the phone rectify such concern?
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Yes but the aluminum bumper case is very flimsy stamped aluminum. You would need something with zero give like aircraft grade. An aluminum or plastic shell would be the way to go, but That bumper case is just to prevent chiping of the sides, and give a mm lip when laying the phone on its front/back.
I just use a rubber back cover and THAT'S IT. No problems for me. And yes i keep it in my jeans' pocket most of the time. It does hinder my movement a little though
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The better way to deal with the size is not to put in jeans pocket. In winter, jacket pockets I guess are ok. In summer, I guess the best way would be to buy a camera bag or something for this. I think that would solve this problem.
I just got the phone and I am kinda surprised to see how thin it is. Definitely not a phone you should stress too much.
I see on some youtube videos and pictures elsewhere that the bumper is easily scratched. Are you guys worried?
This was of no concern on z3c whereas that was made of plastic.
Anyone?
Im on a beach holiday in spain 7 days in. Sand all over the place and no scratches yet. I always make sure i have nothing in the pocket the phone goes in. No screen protector either. I do want to buy a screen protector when i can find a decent one.
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Don't know what you are referring to with the bumper? But my screen have scratches and it have only been alone in my pocket, seems like it scratches very easily ?
The bumper scratches like crazy. I bought the black X thinking even if I scratch it then they wont stand out.
Got the phone yesterday and it has more scratches than my previous G3 in 1,5 years. I went cycling and after 1 mile I took it out of my pocket to find an few little scratches near the camera button. Didn't do anything out of the ordinary so I have no idea how they got there.
Then I went cycling again and smacked the phone out of my hand due to the beyond stupid headphone jack placement . It fell and the screen was unharmed where it should have had scratches. The bumper ofc was scratched more then it was a few hours prior. Needless to say I am ordering a case.