Hi All,
A tale of warning/caution...
Last night my Razr Maxx fell off of my lap and onto the wooden floor. Literally a fall of less than 2 feet. Even though I have a case on it, the screen cracked all the way down the middle.
This seems awfully fragile for "gorilla" glass. Anyone else with an issue? Manufacturer defect?
I'm right there with you...~2 foot drop, happened a few months ago.
Here's carnage:
Science Ninja said:
Hi All,
A tale of warning/caution...
Last night my Razr Maxx fell off of my lap and onto the wooden floor. Literally a fall of less than 2 feet. Even though I have a case on it, the screen cracked all the way down the middle.
This seems awfully fragile for "gorilla" glass. Anyone else with an issue? Manufacturer defect?
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There are many, many complaints of this. Not unusual story at all.
Gorilla glass is still glass. When impact comes from the side or corner, it will still break. This is why some of us drop the phone and it's ok, because it depends on the angle where it's dropped.
For those who paid attention in school, you know that when things are hard, they are brittle.
Gorilla Glass is great the problem is because of the increased strength the manufacturers feel they can use thinner glass and end up making it to thin.
Also thats not much of a case, is it soft or hard plastic?
I think the main purpose of gorilla glass is to prevent scratches. The hardened glass is still going to shatter if dropped...
Also looks like you're case only covers the sides. It appears (correct me if i'm wrong) that the corners of you're phone are exposed, and that the screen has almost no coverage. Good looking case but if it doesn't keep the phone safer...
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My experience is different - I dropped my razr twice and I feel very lucky
The first time it felt of my desk on the tiled floor screen down and not even a scratch
the second was from my chest pocket on the cement pavement - got two tiny scrathes on the botom left of the screen.
My HD2 has a Gglass too and cracked on the first fall. I had better luck after the replacement...
Dropped my Razr from 4 feet up onto concrete, corner hit first, then flipped a couple of times.
No damage.
It depends on the case.
Looks like the good ole TPU case. As others have stated nothing is perfect and imo no matter what case sometimes shiznit happens.
That being said and being the clumsy person i am i have dropped my razr various times in my otterbox commuter and haven't had a problem.
People seem to forget that the most notoriously fragile phone on earth (hint: it's slightly fruity and has a 4 in the name) is made from Gorilla Glass on two sides. It's still glass.
I keep the pictures from these threads to show people who think I'm crazy for using an OtterBox. Haven't had to replace a phone since i started using them.
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otterbox ftw!!!
Monkey glass my walnuts
I was also very disappointed with the promises of gorilla glass. it seems to shatter, chips, and scratches just a little less than regular glass. manufacturers also seem to be using very thin pieces for the digitizers.
I think that monkey glass is a brand recognition like pyrex is to borosilicate. you don't buy borosilicate bowls, you buy pyrex.
Manufactures probably pay a steep tax to incorporate monkey glass in their products. To cut costs they might be using thinner layers than appropriate.
Just go to alibaba.com or dhgate.com and buy a tempered glass digitizer for like 20 to 30 dollars. Heck, buy two for good measure and to save on shipping.
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daniel644 said:
Gorilla Glass is great the problem is because of the increased strength the manufacturers feel they can use thinner glass and end up making it to thin.
Also thats not much of a case, is it soft or hard plastic?
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Just a soft case, but it does cover the sides (see picture). As mentioned, my guess is because of the angle (right on the bottom left corner).
Some one here recommended the Otterbox Commuter. Is that the consensus on the case with which to go?
Thanks for the input!
Yes gorilla glass is strong but not bullet proof like the Kevlar back "hint of sarcasm"
People have already mentioned about manufacturing and size is one of the issues.
Corning are going to push v2 soon it'll be double strength but half thickness ;-)
Screen protector and a camping pouch for cycling down top all's good.
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Science Ninja said:
Just a soft case, but it does cover the sides (see picture). As mentioned, my guess is because of the angle (right on the bottom left corner).
Some one here recommended the Otterbox Commuter. Is that the consensus on the case with which to go?
Thanks for the input!
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I've got the commuter case, it looks great, can't speak to protection factor as I have been fortunate enough to have not dropped it YET, every other touchscreen device I've owned has been dropped atleast once but in recent years I have gotten better at not dropping (after losing a 400 dollar archos 5 to a fall in the gravel driveway).
My brother got the defender case and within the first week it got snagged and pulled off and in his words went across the room, and here we are some 3 months later and its still working great, if your crazy worried about the screen, and your one of those guys that like belt clips (I don't) go with the defender as the phone can be placed in the belt clip screen in creating a full "shell" around the phone.
Also that 4 mentioned above with gorilla on both sides, LOL, has notoriously thin sheets of gorilla glass, which is why they break so easy.
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Just a soft case, but it does cover the sides (see picture). As mentioned, my guess is because of the angle (right on the bottom left corner).
Some one here recommended the Otterbox Commuter. Is that the consensus on the case with which to go?
Thanks for the input!
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I and my daughter both have otterbox commuter's on our razrs. I've been luck enough (*knock on wood*) to not have dropped mine yet. But my daughter has dropped hers enough in parking lots, driveways, classrooms, etc to more than have paid for both and her razr is still perfect.
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I and my daughter both have otterbox commuter's on our razrs. I've been luck enough (*knock on wood*) to not have dropped mine yet. But my daughter has dropped hers enough in parking lots, driveways, classrooms, etc to more than have paid for both and her razr is still perfect.
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A kid with a razr is definitively proof enought of resistence.
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I accidentally threw my phone across the room over a football match. Lol Bounced off my bed, off the wall and onto a wooden floor. All was fine thankfully.
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wrexus said:
I think the main purpose of gorilla glass is to prevent scratches. The hardened glass is still going to shatter if dropped...
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This. Yes. This is still glass. Now, if they could make Gorilla Plexiglass, then you might have a semi dropproof phone.
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I swear the black plastic on the bottom back of the phone is engineered to get "scuffed" the first time you set it down . Other than that I have some lint in the little gap between the screen and the metal rim around the front.
I'm not going to use cases or screen protectors so all of this can be expected, just wondering how everyone else's is holding up? Any drops yet?
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I swear the black plastic on the bottom back of the phone is engineered to get "scuffed" the first time you set it down
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Definately falls in to the "what the hell were they thinking" category.
I'm not going to use cases or screen protectors
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Wow, then I'm guessing we should all come back to this post in a month because you're proably our best durablity test example.
I HIGHLY recoomend a silicon case; protects the phone greatly, and makes it more sturdy to hold!
I got a complete package when I bought my GS2 for 5 euro.. A white and black silicon case, car charger and screen protector. Even though it isnt beautiful, I always keep my GS2 protected by a case
holding out for invisible shield now...
Absolutely fine for me, no marks whatsoever, no slow down of the software.
Have got a little dust around the edges between the edge and the screen.
i never use cases or screen protectors wether in mint or sh*t condition after 1 year who cares its time to upgrade.
sold my SGS after one year for AUD$350 and i never used a case or anything. (hopping to do the same next year with my SGS ii
Don't have any scratches or scuffs on it yet, but that's pure luck...I've managed to drop it twice and both times it landed on something soft. I love the phone but holding it can be a little awkward at times, it's angular shape and width does mean that I often have to shift my hands to accommodate it.
For that reason, I've put on a screen protector and I'm now waiting for an SGP Ultra Capsule Case to arrive. I'm hoping that will make it a bit more 'grippy' and less likely to slip out of my hands. My biggest concern is the camera lens, it seems terribly exposed there on the back of the device and it feels like I could damage it just by putting it down a bit too strongly.
Dropped mine 12 days ago. A juggle managed to launch it to a height of 5ft and then it landed totally flat screen down onto concrete with small stones on it. Shattered glass and non-working LCD.
Still waiting for Samsung to supply a replacement.
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Dropped mine 12 days ago. A juggle managed to launch it to a height of 5ft and then it landed totally flat screen down onto concrete with small stones on it. Shattered glass and non-working LCD.
Still waiting for Samsung to supply a replacement.
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.... .. my condolences. Something like that is the only reason I sometimes fantasize about getting a case.
The dust between the screen, how do we get it out? wet qtip?
I got 1 tiny scratch on the bezel around the headphone jack. It happen the second day I had the phone. I've lost hope in the couple screen protectors I've ordered. I just ordered a zagg full body protector. I've got an a official samsung case coming now.
But I have never heavily damaged a phone besides my hd2. I'm like 48 out of 50 in keeping phones in great condition while not using a consistent case.
I truly hate the silver cheap bezel on all phones. Usually the only thing I tend to scratch.
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Mine has a slightly weird hardware quirk since I first got it - the chrome border around the glass is slightly raised above the glass on right, but slightly below the glass on the left. It's like the glass is a bit angled / tilted up on the left.
Anyone else have this?
Nope mine is fine.
No scratches, have been using it for a month. I always put it on a cloth on my desk when I'm at home.
The dust between the glass and the plastic border annoys the **** out of me. I try to scrape it out with a needle, but they're too thick.
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prodygee said:
Nope mine is fine.
No scratches, have been using it for a month. I always put it on a cloth on my desk when I'm at home.
The dust between the glass and the plastic border annoys the **** out of me. I try to scrape it out with a needle, but they're too thick.
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no scratches at all for me...but the dust could be removed with patience and soft brush mate.. i use one that came with my philips shave - just a tip
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Nope mine is fine.
No scratches, have been using it for a month. I always put it on a cloth on my desk when I'm at home.
The dust between the glass and the plastic border annoys the **** out of me. I try to scrape it out with a needle, but they're too thick.
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To remove the dust between the screen and the border all you need is compressed air. I was trying to get it out tonight by using my fingernail through a microfiber cloth to no effect. I pulled out my compressed air and that got it all out instantly.
On another note, I'm using the official Galaxy S II case until my Invisible Shield arrives in the next couple of days, hoping to convert totally to that and not have to use a case.
Can't you remove the dust in there with a can of compressed air and one of those straw attachments? Actually I might go out and buy one.
I definitely agree with the raised bottom on the back of the phone; mine's scuffed quite heavily although the front of the phone is fine, and IMO that's all that matters. A phone's meant to be used and it'll get scratches and whatnot over time.
I've got a feeling i'll be replacing this further down the track anyway since most of my phones don't look too healthy after the 18 month mark. Also have full insurance/warranty cover...if I happen to lose it they'll issue me a new one. Gotta love Korean telcos.
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Mine has a slightly weird hardware quirk since I first got it - the chrome border around the glass is slightly raised above the glass on right, but slightly below the glass on the left. It's like the glass is a bit angled / tilted up on the left.
Anyone else have this?
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Mine is the EXACT same way, I was wondering if it was just mine. Good to know its just a quirk of the phone.
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To remove the dust between the screen and the border all you need is compressed air. I was trying to get it out tonight by using my fingernail through a microfiber cloth to no effect. I pulled out my compressed air and that got it all out instantly.
On another note, I'm using the official Galaxy S II case until my Invisible Shield arrives in the next couple of days, hoping to convert totally to that and not have to use a case.
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The dust can be removed with a piece of paper too.
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AXIS of Reality said:
Mine has a slightly weird hardware quirk since I first got it - the chrome border around the glass is slightly raised above the glass on right, but slightly below the glass on the left. It's like the glass is a bit angled / tilted up on the left.
Anyone else have this?
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So your border is crome? I ask as mine as a black border
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tiny scratch at the back, at the plastic bump, fine elsewhere
Since the Photon has gorilla glass, I don't understand why I would put a piece of plastic on the screen to protect it from scratches. Why are people buying screen protectors? Screen protectors were invented when the glass was prone to scratching.
rklurfeld said:
Since the Photon has gorilla glass, I don't understand why I would put a piece of plastic on the screen to protect it from scratches. Why are people buying screen protectors? Screen protectors were invented when the glass was prone to scratching.
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Because gorilla glass isn't scratch proof, its scratch resistant. I've already got a tiny chip on the face (barely noticeable) from accidentally dropping it flat on the face onto the floor at work (tile floor)
The phone feels better without one but the screen protector is a must. I just need to find the right one that doesn't interfere with the amazing feeling of my raw screen
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Since the Photon has gorilla glass, I don't understand why I would put a piece of plastic on the screen to protect it from scratches. Why are people buying screen protectors? Screen protectors were invented when the glass was prone to scratching.
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Also depends on what you do for a living, your activities, how you carry your phone, etc. I use one because my job requires me to be in the office and the field. However, others never use screen protectors on any phone and never get a scratch. I love how the screen feels without it but until I'm close to my upgrade date the protector is staying on.
I haven't used a screen protector for years ....treat it like a laptop
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kusanagi-sama said:
Because gorilla glass isn't scratch proof, its scratch resistant. I've already got a tiny chip on the face (barely noticeable) from accidentally dropping it flat on the face onto the floor at work (tile floor)
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1. What they said!
2. My last 4 phones as soon as I got them I walked immediately across the mall and got GhostArmour installed. Now I have OtterBox.
3. Although I treat Photon like 2-day old baby, I would not be caught dead without screen protector. I have sold all my phones for more than I paid from them and when I say "Not a scratch on it" I mean exactly that!
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1. What they said!
2. My last 4 phones as soon as I got them I walked immediately across the mall and got GhostArmour installed. Now I have OtterBox.
3. Although I treat Photon like 2-day old baby, I would not be caught dead without screen protector. I have sold all my phones for more than I paid from them and when I say "Not a scratch on it" I mean exactly that!
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And as a person that buys only phones without contract i want to thank you and everyone else that does this. Imho the 300 i paid for this mopho is a great deal
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ekrainey said:
And as a person that buys only phones without contract i want to thank you and everyone else that does this. Imho the 300 i paid for this mopho is a great deal
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$300.00? LMAO!
I paid $600.00 to tell Sprint "Give me the box and kiss my black a**, I'm not signing anything!
$50.00 for 32Gb Class 10 MicroSDHC Card I got in mail the same day.
$45.00 to have GhostArmor Installed.
$34.00 drinking at Fridays while GhostArmor Installed.
$39.00 back to Sprint because I wanted new leather case.
Subtract drinks, $734.00! da** skippy I will kick out a few $$$ for some protection!!! (But, before anyone calls me a sucker, I got $300.00 for Evo with SanDisk Class 2 32Gb!) So, $434.00, again, without drinks at Fridays but the joy of dissing Sprint!
i have used screen protectors on every, from my evo, to my ds, to point and shoots, if its got glass and its mobile, it has a protetor however i broke that with my mopho. it hat 2 almost invisible nicks on it when i bought it [off contract unblemished aside from those two nicks] for 250, with box and everything.
ive since noticed what i can best describe as swirl marks. they look like a bad orbital polish on a cars paint job. that being said its only noticable under bright light with the screen brightness down. so i just let auto brightness do its thing and i dont really notice them.
I like the anti glare ones i can't stand the shinyness and all the finger prints off the regular screen, drives me crazy, also i like the matte feel of them too.
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rklurfeld said:
Since the Photon has gorilla glass, I don't understand why I would put a piece of plastic on the screen to protect it from scratches. Why are people buying screen protectors? Screen protectors were invented when the glass was prone to scratching.
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good call, treat it like you would if you had a protector anyways and you will be fine
whatch ya dont get a airborne venereal disease
Naked for general use, freakin massive defender when needed. With the defender your phone doubles as a weapon
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Always a screen protector for me. Probably not necessary for me - it's usually in a dress shirt pocket, sometimes a holster.
But, once in a while, in a jeans pocket -- and all it takes is a few pieces of sand in a jeans pocket.... (Some of the harder mineral particles in sand are about all that appear to scratch Gorilla Glass)
Seidio screen protector all of the way!
I never bought a screen protector for my photon, was broke after buying it, but I don't feel the need to get one.
I usually don't like the feel of screen protectors, a lot I've tried stick too much. If I were going to buy one I'd get a Steinheil, used one on my Evo and it felt like the protector wasn't even there.
First, use a screen protector, later retracted, now, after two months - not a scratch. The main thing - the careful use!
s1yder said:
First, use a screen protector, later retracted, now, after two months - not a scratch. The main thing - the careful use!
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That's how I started lol! What the hell
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Just curious as to how many people use a screen protector on their TF. If you don't, how's your screen holding up?
I've had my transformer since black Friday and the screen has not one scratch and I take it to class everyday. I have a case on it too.
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I have dogs that like to jump on beds, so I use one just in case. Also I use one so I don't fret about my glass being dirty or when a girl with rings on is playing with it, I will always know I have a perfect glass behind the screen protector. Sadly my screen underneath has funky **** going on like light bleed and a discolored spot
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I don't have a screen protector, but I am looking into getting one.
I have a very tiny dot on the border of the glass which I don't like much, just in case.
But the problem is how to apply a screen protector!! on my HD2 with its 4.3" display I had too much difficulty to put a screen protector without leaving dust underneath it, on a 10" display it is impossible....
I don't use a screen protector and my screen is perfect.
Tough i always keep it docked, so i guess it helps a lot
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I don't have a screen protector, but I am looking into getting one.
I have a very tiny dot on the border of the glass which I don't like much, just in case.
But the problem is how to apply a screen protector!! on my HD2 with its 4.3" display I had too much difficulty to put a screen protector without leaving dust underneath it, on a 10" display it is impossible....
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Biggest tip I can give is to apply the screen protector in the bathroom after running a hot shower to get the steam in the room to make the dust die down. Also, the bit of added moisture in the air helps to let you slide the screen protector around a bit before letting it become settled.
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Biggest tip I can give is to apply the screen protector in the bathroom after running a hot shower to get the steam in the room to make the dust die down. Also, the bit of added moisture in the air helps to let you slide the screen protector around a bit before letting it become settled.
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I use clear tape to get dirt out from underneath. But yes bathroom helps although I don't make it steamy. The biggest problem I ran into was aligning the whole thing. One corner would always be off just a tad. I ended up trimming it a bit and I can't even tell.
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checking for videos on how to apply a screen protector, I found this video:
where can I find this Dust Isolation sheet ?!? it seems GREAT
I use a screen protector on my TF101 mainly because it reduces glare and the fingerprints come off easier and it feels smoother that the regular gorilla glass
My tf101 was a best buy display model. It didn't have a screen protector then and it doesn't have one now. I sell saltwater livestock for a living and I'm a mechanic on the side, so it frequently comes in contact with dirt, grease, and saltwater. Not a scratch on the screen. I use a targus case to protect the screen when its not in use.
Regarding putting a screen protector on. Its just like window tint fellas. Clean screen as best you can. Mix some hand soap and tap water in a spray bottle. Spray screen protector and device and apply screen protector. Now spray front side of screen protector. Use a credit card or rubber squeegee to squeegee the water out from under the protector. As the water comes out it will drag the dust with it. Keep a towel on hand to dry the device as the water runs out. You might see a little water left under the protector after squeegeeing but it will dry completely over the next few days so don't worry about it.
TF101 EOS JB v63 Guevor 700 @ 1.5
Steinheil ultra crystal on mine. Best on the market bar none, and dry install. Nice and easy with no liquid.
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crzycrkr said:
Steinheil ultra crystal on mine. Best on the market bar none, and dry install. Nice and easy with no liquid.
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its just too bad that SGP has no longevity... and by that I mean I can still get a martian fields and skinomi products for my old Touch Pro 2 but cant get a screen protector for either OR my TF101 through SGP/Steinheil...
When it comes to screen protectors for me its SGP/Steinheil then Martian Fields (then pretty much anyone else), but like I said, 8-12 Months later they drop it completely... so unless you stock up on them, be prepared to be screwed to find a different brand if you have an issue (I had my nephew destroy one of mine... I couldnt get my finger under the side but 2min with him and me not looking and it was off and bent in half )
My .02 anyway..
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its just too bad that SGP has no longevity... and by that I mean I can still get a martian fields and skinomi products for my old Touch Pro 2 but cant get a screen protector for either OR my TF101 through SGP/Steinheil...
When it comes to screen protectors for me its SGP/Steinheil then Martian Fields (then pretty much anyone else), but like I said, 8-12 Months later they drop it completely... so unless you stock up on them, be prepared to be screwed to find a different brand if you have an issue (I had my nephew destroy one of mine... I couldnt get my finger under the side but 2min with him and me not looking and it was off and bent in half )
My .02 anyway..
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I upgrade every year, so that doesn't concern me too much, but that's a good point. I also usually do buy an extra pack
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unnecessary i'd say.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUcJnwyCtes
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unnecessary i'd say.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUcJnwyCtes
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And...you'd be wrong. All those things he did most likely wouldn't scratch regular glass. For the most part keys and coins aren't hard enough. What will scratch glass, gorilla or not, is sand. Sand and grit is everythere. If your hands are dirty its there. It there's lint in your pockets its there. That's the enemy of screens.
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And...you'd be wrong. All those things he did most likely wouldn't scratch regular glass. For the most part keys and coins aren't hard enough. What will scratch glass, gorilla or not, is sand. Sand and grit is everythere. If your hands are dirty its there. It there's lint in your pockets its there. That's the enemy of screens.
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I still had some fun when he sliced an Apple on it
Anyway, mine lives with the dock, so my screen isn't in contact with random dirty stuff.
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Had the transformer since it was first released. After a few months of ownership i tried the SGP ultra fine matte protector as the insane glare was starting to bother me. Had that on for a few months during which the screen nor the protector took any damage as i keep it docked when its not in use. Took it off 3 months ago and since then i've gotten one hairline scratch thats about a cm long, not noticeable unless you knew where it was.
I would say if you keep the thing docked and take care when cleaning the screen its not necessary to have a screen protector. However if you don't use a dock and the tablet is constantly exposed to any number of things that can scratch it, or you're not in the habit of taking good care of your gadgets then a screen protector might not be a bad idea.
Every time i see one of those glass scratch demos i facepalm as i've had quite a few devices that were supposed to be "scratch proof" get scratched by the most mundane things. Its all about angle, material, and force. I can slice a screen and not get a scratch but angle it a bit and give it more pressure and I bet i can get these screens to scratch pretty easily.
Scratch resistance is awesome in the lab, but in the real world there are just too many variables to be absolutely sure.
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Scratch resistance is awesome in the lab, but in the real world there are just too many variables to be absolutely sure.
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Says my Galaxy note.
Got some ugly scratches when I decided to use the flip cover case. Some sand or dirt got in between the glass and the leather cover. My heart is still broken because of it.
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So how do we feel about ZAGG screen protectors? I'm looking to put one on my Slider. In the past, I have been pleased with Caseen and their glareshatter screen protectors. Just wondering if there's any really recommended brands?
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So how do we feel about ZAGG screen protectors? I'm looking to put one on my Slider. In the past, I have been pleased with Caseen and their glareshatter screen protectors. Just wondering if there's any really recommended brands?
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I've used ZAGG a few times, once on my zune, once on my evo and again on my evo LTE. The original ZAGG product is one of those soft wet apply films that are a bit grippy compared to a hard plastic film protector. I hated it for my zune and i hated it for my evo because of the grippiness as well as the slight orange peel effect. Over time the zune's wore down enough so that it was smooth and had no orange peel, but that took about a year and only in the spots you swipe around to change tracks and volume. Same thing happened with my evo.
On the Evo LTE I was tempted to try zagg HD, which actually was much better than the original film in that it was a lot more clear and had less grip, but alas it was still a soft wet apply film and i just couldn't get used to it.
If you like the grippy texture then the zagg and similiar soft films last longer than the hard plastics. It seems like a love it or hate it situation for a lot of people, myself included.
I will always go with the hard plastic dry install as those are in my opinion easier to apply because you can hover over the screen and slowly lower it as opposed to sliding it around on liquid and then have to squeegee it all out later. Even if i have to replace it once every few months as opposed to once a year for the zagg, i will still stick with the hard plastics.
On your brand new EVO LTE. I see so many people get these ZOMGCOPTER cases that are bullet proof and rapture proof. Do not get a case that directly touches your phone without a rubber insulator. Otterbox is awesome. They use a nice rubber in between your phone and their plastic case. Plastic clips still clutch at your phone and will scratch the four corners that they do touch over time.
Do us all a favor and buy a TPU or nice gel case on ebay for $3 in two weeks. Your phone will last until then.
I made the horrible mistake of using a plastic case on my OG Epic the day it came out. Yeah your remember. The Sprint case that was chrome and had a leather middle piece. It looked pimp. In fact it was. It made my phone it's ho. Plastic to plastic = scratches all around the edge of my phone.
Use a rubber ladies and gentlemen.
If your me, you don't use anything, but with the new upcoming changes to Sprint's TEP program, you may want to consider an awesome case and drop that coverage. Research it, unless you want to pay more come June.
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newfireorange said:
On your brand new EVO LTE. I see so many people get these ZOMGCOPTER cases that are bullet proof and rapture proof. Do not get a case that directly touches your phone without a rubber insulator. Otterbox is awesome. They use a nice rubber in between your phone and their plastic case. Plastic clips still clutch at your phone and will scratch the four corners that they do touch over time.
Do us all a favor and buy a TPU or nice gel case on ebay for $3 in two weeks. Your phone will last until then.
I made the horrible mistake of using a plastic case on my OG Epic the day it came out. Yeah your remember. The Sprint case that was chrome and had a leather middle piece. It looked pimp. In fact it was. It made my phone it's ho. Plastic to plastic = scratches all around the edge of my phone.
Use a rubber ladies and gentlemen.
If your me, you don't use anything, but with the new upcoming changes to Sprint's TEP program, you may want to consider an awesome case and drop that coverage. Research it, unless you want to pay more come June.
That is all.
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well said!
It's going to scratch the machined aluminum corners?
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It's going to scratch the machined aluminum corners?
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No that part is fine, the plastic area; not so much.
My otterbox has no rubber except the outer covering. The trick to not scratching your phone while in a case is to keep dirt out of it, which the otterbox does extremely well.
"ZOMGCOPTER"
What's that?
I don't understand why people buy covers and screen protectors at all.
1. The glass is IMPOSSIBLE to scratch. It will NOT scratch. The lame plastic cover will, and will look stupid.
2. A scratched thin phone looks infinitely better than a perfect phone that's inside of a huge case.
Your phone is worth nothing in 24 months, enjoy it.
.jond said:
I don't understand why people buy covers and screen protectors at all.
1. The glass is IMPOSSIBLE to scratch. It will NOT scratch. The lame plastic cover will, and will look stupid.
2. A scratched thin phone looks infinitely better than a perfect phone that's inside of a huge case.
Your phone is worth nothing in 24 months, enjoy it.
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Exactly I used a case for all of 2 weeks with my og Evo and a screen protector for about 3 hours. Never put anything on my 3D and both phones were fine. I just hate that cases make buttons less functional and screen protectors blah nothing beats finger to glass.
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ive been rocking the same og evo 4g since january 2011 no case or screen protector and its flawless still. so perfect infact that the other day someone asked me if i got a new phone because it still looks as mint as day one haha
i only use cases when doing potential phone dangering things like football with people or other things
.jond said:
I don't understand why people buy covers and screen protectors at all.
1. The glass is IMPOSSIBLE to scratch. It will NOT scratch. The lame plastic cover will, and will look stupid.
2. A scratched thin phone looks infinitely better than a perfect phone that's inside of a huge case.
Your phone is worth nothing in 24 months, enjoy it.
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I call BS.
1. It is most definitely possible to scratch. I have done so. Working construction, my phone is subjected to metal shavings and concrete dust. The latter will most certainly scratch the screen.
2. A working phone looks infinitely better than a broken phone
.jond said:
I don't understand why people buy covers and screen protectors at all.
1. The glass is IMPOSSIBLE to scratch. It will NOT scratch. The lame plastic cover will, and will look stupid.
2. A scratched thin phone looks infinitely better than a perfect phone that's inside of a huge case.
Your phone is worth nothing in 24 months, enjoy it.
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If you drop your phone on its corner while it is in a case, most likely, the case is the only thing that gets damaged. Not always, but most likely. After the newness wears off on the phone and you start putting it in your pocket with your keys, the screen will eventually get scratched.
Buy a decent case and screen protector and you can't go wrong. I personally love the Clarivue screen protectors. Static cling. Cases, I haven't found any that impress me but I haven't had an OtterBox.
Well the case that sprint is going to sell with the eco looks decent. But then again I didn't open it
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cubbieswin said:
If you drop your phone on its corner while it is in a case, most likely, the case is the only thing that gets damaged. Not always, but most likely. After the newness wears off on the phone and you start putting it in your pocket with your keys, the screen will eventually get scratched.
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I agree with dropping the phone. I have a Seidio surface on my EVO 4g. It saved my butt quite a few times.
As far as keys, I can't be the only one that puts them in separate pockets. Keys in left and phone in right, ALWAYS.
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As far as keys, I can't be the only one that puts them in separate pockets. Keys in left and phone in right, ALWAYS.
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This. I always make sure that my keys and my phone are NOT in the same pocket lol
I would love to go naked in my phone but o know the minute I do I will drop it and it will shatter ..I try to buy very minimal cases. But as the op said plastic on phone does scratch ..I have an evo 3d and bought a plastic case that was two pieces..top and bottom that would slide together in the middle and click..it also had a dandy kickstand built in ..its a nice case but I flashed the **** out of that phone so needless to say I was pulling that case often to remove the battery ..after a while all the paint around the edge of the screen had come of ..it looked fine in the case but looked terrible when I took it off..not a prob now since the digitizer went back and I just got jt replaced ..and the replacement speaker is bad..so I have another waiting at Sprint ..I enjoyed my evo 3d and think it got a bad rap but I did go through like 4 before I had one that lasted me 9 months
Always keys on left, phone on right.
Since I like charging on a dock I wanted a simple pull off case, so I got a case mate one piece case, (just to protect the back and camera lense), and a bodyguard screen protector. Best screen protector I've ever used.
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newfireorange said:
Use a rubber ladies and gentlemen.
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you don't say !!!
lol
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Most of my pants have pockets inside of pockets. Since I am a firefighter, i do sometimes have my phone on scene and it tends to go through a beating throughout its life. All my phones have a OtterBox defender (would get lifeline if they got smart and went ouside of just crApple products) with a screen protector that gets replaced about every 3 months.
I took my screen off the case and screen protector the other day and 1 of my co-workers asked if my new phone came in yet. It looks brand spanking new minus a tiny barely noticeable scratch on the screen.
FattySparks said:
I call BS.
1. It is most definitely possible to scratch. I have done so. Working construction, my phone is subjected to metal shavings and concrete dust. The latter will most certainly scratch the screen.
2. A working phone looks infinitely better than a broken phone
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+1
I work building cranes and constantly dig metal shavings out of my pocket...I can only imagine what my old 3D would look like without the case/screen protector. The phone might be worthless in 2 years but not only do I usually sell it after 1, if I do keep it for 2 it doesnt mean I want it to look like hell..
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.jond said:
I don't understand why people buy covers and screen protectors at all.
1. The glass is IMPOSSIBLE to scratch. It will NOT scratch. The lame plastic cover will, and will look stupid.
2. A scratched thin phone looks infinitely better than a perfect phone that's inside of a huge case.
Your phone is worth nothing in 24 months, enjoy it.
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I agree with the sentiment. I go naked
However, gorilla glass most certainly can scratch if you're not careful. Been rocking my OG Epic for 18 months naked, and I'm really careful, but somehow I did acquire a few minor scratches on the screen. I can only assume I had sand in my pocket or something.
Hello,
. About 3 weeks ago I got an S4. That makes me the 4th of 5 people I know with them. The first three all have cracked glass. I thought they were just abusing their phones. Last night at a concert my phone slipped out of my pocket while sitting. It fell a foot and a half. I am now the fourth to have a cracked screen. A foot and a half. I will save you the stories of what my Motorola Droid and DNA took without any damage at all. I just paid $600 for this phone, I'm not paying $200 to get the glass replaced.
The 5th person is my wife. She accepted the S4 on performance recommendations. Hers is not cracked yet, but she only got it 2 days ago, we'll see how long it lasts. Why yes I could buy a nice case like an otterbox to protect the phone, but then why would I buy a thin, lite weight phone? Why didn't Samsung just use some real material such as gorilla glass instead of the cheap crap?
I am truly disappointed in this product.
The S4 has gorilla glass 3, the latest release of gorilla glass. Did any of these people you mentioned have cases on their phone?
Cheap crap? You realize they used Gorilla Glass 3? I've dropped mine caseless with no issues.
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The S4 has gorilla glass 3, the latest release of gorilla glass. Did any of these people you mentioned have cases on their phone?
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Hmmm maybe Gorilla Glass 3 is the windows vista of glass! My first s 4 had 2 scratches on it right out the box...
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Balsta said:
Cheap crap? You realize they used Gorilla Glass 3? I've dropped mine caseless with no issues.
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accually gorilla glass has been tested, not with just phones, and they're prone to be anti-scratch, but they are compacted and thinner then most cellphone glass screens, so even if it is gorrilla glass 3, i might not scratch as bad, but since its compacted glass, and slightly thinner, its prone to crack and break easier(under circumstances), hence why its a thin phone, some smartphones are thick cause the glass and parts, to make a compacted phone its almost taking the risk of becoming fragiler the thinner it gets, like mica, but more expensive lol
Otterbox Commuter Case....sweet as colors and really nice case, get yourself one!
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Hello,
. About 3 weeks ago I got an S4. That makes me the 4th of 5 people I know with them. The first three all have cracked glass. I thought they were just abusing their phones. Last night at a concert my phone slipped out of my pocket while sitting. It fell a foot and a half. I am now the fourth to have a cracked screen. A foot and a half. I will save you the stories of what my Motorola Droid and DNA took without any damage at all. I just paid $600 for this phone, I'm not paying $200 to get the glass replaced.
The 5th person is my wife. She accepted the S4 on performance recommendations. Hers is not cracked yet, but she only got it 2 days ago, we'll see how long it lasts. Why yes I could buy a nice case like an otterbox to protect the phone, but then why would I buy a thin, lite weight phone? Why didn't Samsung just use some real material such as gorilla glass instead of the cheap crap?
I am truly disappointed in this product.
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That is very interesting. I am wondering if yours is some of the early run phones? Up here in Canada, I haven't heard of any cracked glass yet. And from what I have seen, the S4 has a metal ring around it or is in a metal case now something like an Iphone style. I am wondering if the clearance are too tight and that caused it to crack. We may see a second gen phone if this is the problem and more have the same issues.
Now for the other post about scratches. Ya, I have a very slight scratch on mine. I don't by all of this damage, scratch resistance glass. Although I have an S3, they say that they tried scratching the screen with a key and it didn't scratch. A key has dull edges and aren't always in a pocket with a phone. Mine was scratched with a piece of paper. As that is all that was in that pocket.
Still fragile
As I said, I know 5 people now with S4's. All have damaged screens from minor issues. The only one that doesn't is only 3 days old.
I had a case on it but have to get a new one because the case doesn't fit with the QI charger receiver in it. Mine fell 1.5 feet, I was sitting in a chair at a concert and it slid out of my pocket. 1.5 feet, gorilla glass should be able to take that without issue, but that is definitely not the case with this phone.
If I wanted a big, thick phone from an otterbox I'd have bought a big thick phone.
i know 4 people with S4's who have had them since launch, and none of them are broken.
one of them even just uses the holster shell case.
then again, i don't think any of my friends are really irresponsible with their $650 pieces of technology.
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Hello,
. About 3 weeks ago I got an S4. That makes me the 4th of 5 people I know with them. The first three all have cracked glass. I thought they were just abusing their phones. Last night at a concert my phone slipped out of my pocket while sitting. It fell a foot and a half. I am now the fourth to have a cracked screen. A foot and a half. I will save you the stories of what my Motorola Droid and DNA took without any damage at all. I just paid $600 for this phone, I'm not paying $200 to get the glass replaced.
The 5th person is my wife. She accepted the S4 on performance recommendations. Hers is not cracked yet, but she only got it 2 days ago, we'll see how long it lasts. Why yes I could buy a nice case like an otterbox to protect the phone, but then why would I buy a thin, lite weight phone? Why didn't Samsung just use some real material such as gorilla glass instead of the cheap crap?
I am truly disappointed in this product.
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Lol it is gorilla glass.
Even so, gorilla glass is just glass after all. Glass is brittle, it will break upon shock.
If you want a phone that isn't as fragile as these new smartphones, you might want to get one of those old Nokia phones that has plastic screens.
i love how people cry when they drop a phone and it breaks.. like what are you expecting? I know it has gorilla glass but that doesnt mean it wont survive everything. you forget its GLASS.... it is insanely fragile and can be affected by many many factors that will cause it to either survive or not survive even the smallest of drops. temperature, humidity, height, weight load behind it, fracture point and the list goes on.
it is glass, it will break, dont be surprised when you drop it and it cracks. but yes gorilla glass should help reduce them but you have no idea what kind of stress factors went on in that glass.
remember, cars have airbags, have made car insanely safe for people yet people still get injuries and even death from car accidents. airbags cant save you every time. same goes for gorilla glass.
Here is a video from Samsung showing the S4 endurance test. http://youtu.be/K4f9gQ7b6Gg There is a thread in the Verizon S3 forum that was similar to this one. Some people said the phone was bullet proof, some said it was fragile. I think it depends on how the phone lands on a hard surface as to whether it breaks or not, hence the discrepancy.
Not sure I agree with the perspective, since a lot of folks are not engineers, or may have had more resilient phones (once with less glass) before this. Case in point, the S3 handles drops better, but a relative point and both will crack on a hard surface and if the impact is an acute angle (a corner). The more surface glass and less bezel, the more likely a display crack when kinetic energy needs displaced (a drop).
On top of that reality of physics, Samsung have gone way out of their way to pimp how tough the S4 is lately. Perhaps giving some consumers a false sense of security, along with the Gorilla glass misnomers (assumptions it will not crack).
Has there ever been a phone releases without people complaining about how weak it is? I read the same things about my galaxy nexus.
Sometimes they break. It happens. I've dropped mine from shoulder height without a case... Only a nick... And do you know what that means?
Nothing. It means absolutely nothing. With such a small sample size I am unwilling to make any sweeping claims about all S4s. Unfortunately I may be in the minority.
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same here... mine fell out of my pocket and cracked instantly.
Wait so because your glasd cracked all of a sudden all s4's are fragile and break easily? No, it all depends on how you drop it. If you drop any phone face first it'll crack.
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I must have not read the line that said S4's are shatter proof.
Seems the only absolute in all this is glass can break if you drop it.
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from what I have seen, the S4 has a metal ring around it or is in a metal case now something like an Iphone style. I am wondering if the clearance are too tight and that caused it to crack.
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It's not metal is plastic just kinda looks like metal.
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You probably need the Active S4, I have pretty thin tpu case on mine, dropped it a few times. No problems here. Always get some kind of case.