So since we can make stock ROMs for the Atrix, wouldn't it be possible to make a stock Android 2.2 ROM?
Your post makes no sense. First of all, we can't make stock ROMs and don't have any for the Atrix, or at least not yet. And second, this phone already has 2.2, so even if we had a stock ROM for the Atrix, it already would be 2.2.
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Your post makes no sense. First of all, we can't make stock ROMs and don't have any for the Atrix, or at least not yet. And second, this phone already has 2.2, so even if we had a stock ROM for the Atrix, it already would be 2.2.
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You clearly don't know anything about Android. First off, the Atrix doesn't have a Stock Android 2.2 ROM.... its running MotoBlur. Stock Android is just plain Android without the skin. Just like it was on the Nexus One.
And there is already one ROM.
Now, before you post some more stupid sh*t. Think.
http://source.android.com/ feel free to get started
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http://source.android.com/ feel free to get started
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Hahaha i dont know how i didnt find this!, THANK YOU!
Didn't someone make a ROM already? I know that one isn't stock but I'm guessing we are on the right track.
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Didn't someone make a ROM already? I know that one isn't stock but I'm guessing we are on the right track.
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Yeah: Adeo v0.1 ROM
With that being made its suppose to be possible to make strait up stock Android ROMs that we see in the Nexus S and the Nexus One.
Magic_Bunny said:
Yeah: Adeo v0.1 ROM
With that being made its suppose to be possible to make strait up stock Android ROMs that we see in the Nexus S and the Nexus One.
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Lol, that'll never happen. Not until the bootloader is cracked, and that will be a long time from now, if ever.
di11igaf said:
Lol, that'll never happen. Not until the bootloader is cracked, and that will be a long time from now, if ever.
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@ di11igaf - do you think its possible that when (and i know it will be some time) android 2.3 is released for the Atrix that it will be released with an unlocked bootloader? Could this possibly be our ONLY hope for now? A long shot and a pipe dream... ?
di11igaf said:
Lol, that'll never happen. Not until the bootloader is cracked, and that will be a long time from now, if ever.
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oooh. I was told that by a "developer" but I had a feeling that it was BS.
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You clearly don't know anything about Android. First off, the Atrix doesn't have a Stock Android 2.2 ROM.... its running MotoBlur. Stock Android is just plain Android without the skin. Just like it was on the Nexus One.
And there is already one ROM.
Now, before you post some more stupid sh*t. Think.
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I know it doesn't have a stock android ROM. You said "So since we can make stock ROMs for the Atrix"...NOBODY HAS OR MADE A STOCK ROM FOR THE ATRIX.
You seem to think so, you're WRONG. Yes, there is a "ROM" for the Atrix (it's not really a ROM, or what your thinking of at least but technically yes it is a ROM) but it is not a "stock" ROM. So anyways, you're an idiot that thinks you know what your talking about, and you don't. Go read up on some stuff so your not an asshole to other users when they are just trying to explain something.
I think both of you should take this argument into pvt conversation and keep it out of the forum... have some respect for other members...
Yea you're right, sorry. But yea I'm just going to quit now I guess, no need to waste my time in a pvt conversation.
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@ di11igaf - do you think its possible that when (and i know it will be some time) android 2.3 is released for the Atrix that it will be released with an unlocked bootloader? Could this possibly be our ONLY hope for now? A long shot and a pipe dream... ?
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i wouldnt count on it. maybe if motorola realizes its not a good idea to screw developers and people who actually want use android the way we should be able to, since it is open source and not an iphone, but thats just wishful thinking. i wish everyone who was unhappy about the bootloader situation would return the phone or not buy it instead of saying ya, the bootloader things sucks, but other than that i love the phone(and i do like the phone, but im not keeping it for this reason), and let them know why. im sure there will be quite a few who do return it for this reason(me), but most people will mention that they hope its cracked, but theyll keep the phone.
and moto will keep doing it if they keep selling phones, and maybe if their flagship phones start to fail and this was a reason, they will reconsider giving us a way to unlock it, but this is about as unlikely as the bootloader being cracked
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I know it doesn't have a stock android ROM. You said "So since we can make stock ROMs for the Atrix"...NOBODY HAS OR MADE A STOCK ROM FOR THE ATRIX.
You seem to think so, you're WRONG. Yes, there is a "ROM" for the Atrix (it's not really a ROM, or what your thinking of at least but technically yes it is a ROM) but it is not a "stock" ROM. So anyways, you're an idiot that thinks you know what your talking about, and you don't. Go read up on some stuff so your not an asshole to other users when they are just trying to explain something.
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Ummmm yes there is a "stock" rom for the Atrix dumb b*tch. that Rom thats up is a MotoBlur Android 2.2 Rom..... and when I said Android 2.2 Stock Rom that is the ROM that is on the Nexus One.....
Go back to iOS where you belong.
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Seriously? I'm the first? come on... gotta be some devs out there with this phone!
OK, so, let me ask this... how much of the Atrix stuff will work with this phone? I mean, if I have to go more than a few hours without my CM7 I'm gonna get grumpy!
OK, mostly I want the webtop through hdmi hack, but CM7 is right there with it.
How about starting the Motorola Photon 4G channel boyz!?
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Seriously? I'm the first? come on... gotta be some devs out there with this phone!
OK, so, let me ask this... how much of the Atrix stuff will work with this phone? I mean, if I have to go more than a few hours without my CM7 I'm gonna get grumpy!
OK, mostly I want the webtop through hdmi hack, but CM7 is right there with it.
How about starting the Motorola Photon 4G channel boyz!?
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OK, so, let me ask this... how much of the Atrix stuff will work with this phone? I mean, if I have to go more than a few hours without my CM7 I'm gonna get grumpy!
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Then you shouldnt have bought the Photon. Despite having similar hardware, they're still completely different phones. We dont even have CM7 on the Atrix yet.
And even if we did, and it were a quick port to the Photon, it doesnt matter because the Photon still has a locked bootloader. Right now, its not entirely clear if the Atrix was a one-off or if Motorola has genuinely had a change of heart regarding their bootloader policy.
Hope you like Motoblur. As for the webtop hack, I'm sure you'll get that shortly after root.
How can you ask for CM7 when the Atrix doesn't have it?
Coming into the Atrix section seeming like you deserve something is not the way to act.
Woah, woah!
Hold your horses.
The Atrix has been out for half a year, and we still dont have CM7 yet, despite having an unlocked bootloader.
The Photon isn't even officially available yet, and you want what we've been waiting for?
Give it time.
You don't even have a thread for the Photon yet...
Photos? 10char
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Seriously? I'm the first? come on... gotta be some devs out there with this phone!
OK, so, let me ask this... how much of the Atrix stuff will work with this phone? I mean, if I have to go more than a few hours without my CM7 I'm gonna get grumpy!
OK, mostly I want the webtop through hdmi hack, but CM7 is right there with it.
How about starting the Motorola Photon 4G channel boyz!?
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Well how about you starting downloading all the Atrix mods/hacks and let us know which ones work on your NEW phone.....you could be the first tester!
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seriously? I'm the first? Come on... Gotta be some devs out there with this phone!
Ok, so, let me ask this... How much of the atrix stuff will work with this phone? I mean, if i have to go more than a few hours without my cm7 i'm gonna get grumpy!
Ok, mostly i want the webtop through hdmi hack, but cm7 is right there with it.
How about starting the motorola photon 4g channel boyz!?
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gtfo op tyvm
Sorry guys, guess I was a bit excited and didn't think about hurting your feelings. :-/
I probably WILL try some of the Atrix hacks, why not?
The Atrix has a locked bootloader, and no sign of being unlocked... however, the Photon will have it's unlocked in August, I hear. That's how I can suggest we start work on CM7. Or CM8?
Anyway, I've had some time to play with it more - really not so bad in its stock form, I have to say. I wish it had the finger scanner though.
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Sorry guys, guess I was a bit excited and didn't think about hurting your feelings. :-/
I probably WILL try some of the Atrix hacks, why not?
The Atrix has a locked bootloader, and no sign of being unlocked... however, the Photon will have it's unlocked in August, I hear. That's how I can suggest we start work on CM7. Or CM8?
Anyway, I've had some time to play with it more - really not so bad in its stock form, I have to say. I wish it had the finger scanner though.
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The atrix has already been unlocked. CM7 for the atrix is already in the alpha stage. Trying atrix hacks on the Photon sounds like a great way to brick your phone since they are different phones.
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Sorry guys, guess I was a bit excited and didn't think about hurting your feelings. :-/
I probably WILL try some of the Atrix hacks, why not?
The Atrix has a locked bootloader, and no sign of being unlocked... however, the Photon will have it's unlocked in August, I hear. That's how I can suggest we start work on CM7. Or CM8?
Anyway, I've had some time to play with it more - really not so bad in its stock form, I have to say. I wish it had the finger scanner though.
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have you not read anything about the atrix these past few months? Coming on the forum of a device that isn't yours and demanding CM7 is not the way to get it.
First, you have a locked bootloader. Second, where did you hear you would be unlocked in august?
Third, please don't try these Atrix hacks. that's asking for something bad to happen
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Sorry guys, guess I was a bit excited and didn't think about hurting your feelings. :-/
I probably WILL try some of the Atrix hacks, why not?
The Atrix has a locked bootloader, and no sign of being unlocked... however, the Photon will have it's unlocked in August, I hear. That's how I can suggest we start work on CM7. Or CM8?
Anyway, I've had some time to play with it more - really not so bad in its stock form, I have to say. I wish it had the finger scanner though.
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Dude, you have no idea what you are talking about.
Atrix had an unlocked bootloader for one month now. Two days ago GB kernel source for Atrix was released,- meaning new roms will start flooding in like there's no tomorrow. CM7 is already in alpha release state at the moment. But even before that we had a working CWM. And even before we had 2nd-init and pseudo roms.
So far, Photon has absolutely nothing, meaning you can't even theme your phone. I bet it will be at least half a year before you start having any roms.
You trust Motorola when they say they will unlock Photon? LOOL.
Motorola promised to unlock Atrix with the gingerbread update, but as always failed to deliver. Thanks to the devs for finding the way to unlock it.
Don't get me wrong, I support Android community in general and would love for Photon to succeed - having CM7, bootloader unlock, etc. But your phone hasn't been officially released yet.
Like I said, even if Moto keep their word, you will be on stock rom at least for a couple of months until the first mods appear.
And if I were you I woudln't try flashing Atrix stuff if you don't want a 600$ ? brick.
How's the phone treating you?
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Sorry guys, guess I was a bit excited and didn't think about hurting your feelings. :-/
I probably WILL try some of the Atrix hacks, why not?
The Atrix has a locked bootloader, and no sign of being unlocked... however, the Photon will have it's unlocked in August, I hear. That's how I can suggest we start work on CM7. Or CM8?
Anyway, I've had some time to play with it more - really not so bad in its stock form, I have to say. I wish it had the finger scanner though.
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Now what? How about, go find your own forum
Seriously though...Atrix has an unlocked bootloader. CM7 isn't something a random person can just decide to work on. And there is no CM8 yet.
Now, run along.
SMH......should've gotten an Atrix.
But why would you get a phone without doing research on it??? Or at least compare it to other phones so you could get the best buy, future proof(cause u don't wanna have to buy a different phone within 3 months), and most of all, a phone that will fit your needs.
Haha this n00b obviously hasn't read anything in this section of xda. Have fun bricking your photon with atrix hacks and best of luck getting CM anything.
Patiently waiting for atrix CM nightlies
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one of the Commandments of Online forums:
Thou shall not feed the Trolls.
such threads shall be left unreplied.. make the OP do some basic reading that way.
Photon vs atrix = same phone just a lil bigger
From all the research iv done the photon in the middle betwen atrix and bionic im willing to bet it pretty darn similar to the atrix. but thats my 2 cents
twayneo said:
From all the research iv done the photon in the middle betwen atrix and bionic im willing to bet it pretty darn similar to the atrix. but thats my 2 cents
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It's still different. It doesn't matter what it's between. It's a totally different device. Sure, some things could be used. But flashing between phones is a bad idea.
Any CM7 news for X2?
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/24376-motorola-droid-x2-mb870/page__p__227934
Nothing new.
Not until we unlock the bootloader...
Probably nothing especially since the bionic has come out. DX2 has always been the Red Headed Step Child.
quadjacks said:
Probably nothing especially since the bionic has come out. DX2 has always been the Red Headed Step Child.
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And once the Prime and Vigor come out....wait what phone are we talking about?!
SwiftLegend said:
Not until we unlock the bootloader...
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That's not true. CM7 for the DX1 works with a locked bootloader and 2nd-init. DX1 CM7 also only works right now with a Froyo kernel. It should not be impossible now that we have 2nd-init with GB.
Did anyone ask who was actually working on it? I remember the name "dragonzkiller" thrown around but nothing seemed to have come from it. If he isn't, did anyone actually start up the project again? I hate this idea of asking "what the status?" without asking "who is working on it?" and "can we help out?"
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That's not true. CM7 for the DX1 works with a locked bootloader and 2nd-init. DX1 CM7 also only works right now with a Froyo kernel. It should not be impossible now that we have 2nd-init with GB.
Did anyone ask who was actually working on it? I remember the name "dragonzkiller" thrown around but nothing seemed to have come from it. If he isn't, did anyone actually start up the project again? I hate this idea of asking "what the status?" without asking "who is working on it?" and "can we help out?"
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The 'locked bootloader' response is pretty standard on this, and it's getting annoying.
Original X= locked bootloader = CM7
However (I may be wrong) didn't they get CM7 to work by using a dev X? Figured out some way to use 2nd-init after playing with a fully unlocked X? I remember reading something like that...
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That's not true. CM7 for the DX1 works with a locked bootloader and 2nd-init. DX1 CM7 also only works right now with a Froyo kernel. It should not be impossible now that we have 2nd-init with GB.
Did anyone ask who was actually working on it? I remember the name "dragonzkiller" thrown around but nothing seemed to have come from it. If he isn't, did anyone actually start up the project again? I hate this idea of asking "what the status?" without asking "who is working on it?" and "can we help out?"
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That being said, you will wind up with a CM7 that has no custom kernel. Nothing wrong with that, but it's kinda half assed if you ask me. Basically like installing a theme + apps and debloating. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
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The 'locked bootloader' response is pretty standard on this, and it's getting annoying.
Original X= locked bootloader = CM7
However (I may be wrong) didn't they get CM7 to work by using a dev X? Figured out some way to use 2nd-init after playing with a fully unlocked X? I remember reading something like that...
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That wouldn't make any sense. If you are unlocked, you wouldn't need 2nd-init since you have complete access to the first init. Also, they had to pull a number of modifications to get the Froyo kernel to work on the CM7 GB base. If you are unlocked, you shouldn't need to do all that work. You would've just flashed the latest and greatest kernel.
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That being said, you will wind up with a CM7 that has no custom kernel. Nothing wrong with that, but it's kinda half assed if you ask me. Basically like installing a theme + apps and debloating. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
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True. But my feeling right now is that we have no idea at the phone's base performance with all of the Moto blur running on top of it. I'd like to see at least one pure AOSP ROM to see where we are at.
Plus more flashing options are good and CM7 is not a bad option.
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That wouldn't make any sense. If you are unlocked, you wouldn't need 2nd-init since you have complete access to the first init. Also, they had to pull a number of modifications to get the Froyo kernel to work on the CM7 GB base. If you are unlocked, you shouldn't need to do all that work. You would've just flashed the latest and greatest kernel.
True. But my feeling right now is that we have no idea at the phone's base performance with all of the Moto blur running on top of it. I'd like to see at least one pure AOSP ROM to see where we are at.
Plus more flashing options are good and CM7 is not a bad option.
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My message came out wrong.
I always ask the same thing, "Why can they figure out CM on an X but not an X2?" - and someone told me they learned from an unlocked developer device what it would take to make it run on a standard locked X. Basically the ones engineers get.
This was the answer I got in a forum, so I guess I should take it with a grain of salt, but that's what I read.
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That being said, you will wind up with a CM7 that has no custom kernel. Nothing wrong with that, but it's kinda half assed if you ask me. Basically like installing a theme + apps and debloating. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
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That's why I responded with "Not until unlocked bootloader"
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That's why I responded with "Not until unlocked bootloader"
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Not to offend you because I don't really even know you, but I think this highlights a problem in our community.
I think our community has an awful mentality. There are too many people who say they want something without really knowing what to do to get it, let alone have the initiative to get it. I think the biggest problem in the community is our lack of devs. Most of them don't even own this phone. Yet we somehow expect good ROMs to appear overnight and when we don't get them, we blame Moto and VZW for all our problems. Really? Say we get a bootloader unlock at the end of this year. Do we really expect devs to come to our phone in droves with all the LTE goodness in everyone's road map? Really? If we want CM7 on our phone, how about we work on a 2nd-init version today so if we get unlocked, it takes a few weeks for a kernel-enhanced CM7 instead of a few months.
I want us to change our mentality to doers instead of winers. So much time is wasted on flaming Moto and VZW and wining about our phone instead of something constructive. Take the initiative people. You want a ROM that does X, Y, Z? How about you learn how to make that ROM. Don't know how to make a ROM? Ask Nitro. Ask navenedrob. Go and ask someone who knows to help. If someone else has a ROM with the same idea, pair up and become a team. You want a kernel to overclock? Learn about kexec and how to get that to work. Learn about our bootloader and possible ways to crack it. There are so many ways to contribute to this community yet soo many people love to post in the "state of our crappy phone" thread. Seriously. Take the initiative people.
Now that I got that out. Is anyone still working on a DX2 CM7? If not what, do we need to do to get that started up again if someone wants it?
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Now that I got that out. Is anyone still working on a DX2 CM7? If not what, do we need to do to get that started up again if someone wants it?
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if i knew what to do id totally help. ive wanted to get into android development for a while just never had a device until a few weeks ago
mostKnownUnknown said:
Not to offend you because I don't really even know you, but I think this highlights a problem in our community.
I think our community has an awful mentality. There are too many people who say they want something without really knowing what to do to get it, let alone have the initiative to get it. I think the biggest problem in the community is our lack of devs. Most of them don't even own this phone. Yet we somehow expect good ROMs to appear overnight and when we don't get them, we blame Moto and VZW for all our problems. Really? Say we get a bootloader unlock at the end of this year. Do we really expect devs to come to our phone in droves with all the LTE goodness in everyone's road map? Really? If we want CM7 on our phone, how about we work on a 2nd-init version today so if we get unlocked, it takes a few weeks for a kernel-enhanced CM7 instead of a few months.
I want us to change our mentality to doers instead of winers. So much time is wasted on flaming Moto and VZW and wining about our phone instead of something constructive. Take the initiative people. You want a ROM that does X, Y, Z? How about you learn how to make that ROM. Don't know how to make a ROM? Ask Nitro. Ask navenedrob. Go and ask someone who knows to help. If someone else has a ROM with the same idea, pair up and become a team. You want a kernel to overclock? Learn about kexec and how to get that to work. Learn about our bootloader and possible ways to crack it. There are so many ways to contribute to this community yet soo many people love to post in the "state of our crappy phone" thread. Seriously. Take the initiative people.
Now that I got that out. Is anyone still working on a DX2 CM7? If not what, do we need to do to get that started up again if someone wants it?
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Agree. I would try helping with development if I knew how. I'd have to go learn Java now and who knows how long that will take. I was only saying that we needed an unlocked bootloader because you know that people are going to complain that we have CM7 (theoretically) but no custom kernel. You know how many headaches that would cause just from reading a bunch of threads full of complaints...
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Now that I got that out. Is anyone still working on a DX2 CM7? If not what, do we need to do to get that started up again if someone wants it?
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Someone named dragonzkiller is who your looking for...just posted in the development section that he's still trying to get it going...
So as I understand it, the Photon has drivers issues which is why we dont have a port of for instant a droid bionic version of moto ICS, or moto jellybean. I am wondering what we need to get a kernel going. If this happened this would open up the possibility for doing webtop on a non stock rom.(Which I really would love cm 10.1 with ubuntop) I have been using linux for many years and am familiar with compiling and modifying kernels and packages I am just still new with android I came from the Epic 4G. I just would like to be pointed in the right direction or maybe someone who already makes kernels has attempted this and we could work together.
Thanks for your time.
You need source from Motorola and whatever company it was that Apple bought. You can try the Compendium thread for kernel links but as of now a new kernel is highly unlikely.
So then maybe we should look into writing our own? I mean if they can do it why can't we?
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So as I understand it, the Photon has drivers issues which is why we dont have a port of for instant a droid bionic version of moto ICS, or moto jellybean. I am wondering what we need to get a kernel going. If this happened this would open up the possibility for doing webtop on a non stock rom.(Which I really would love cm 10.1 with ubuntop) I have been using linux for many years and am familiar with compiling and modifying kernels and packages I am just still new with android I came from the Epic 4G. I just would like to be pointed in the right direction or maybe someone who already makes kernels has attempted this and we could work together.
Thanks for your time.
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There's a thread over in the Atrix 4G forums where some people are working on a port from the Galaxy R kernel. You may want to follow that thread and offer your assistence there, because chances are that any progress that benefits the Atrix will benefit the Photon in the long run.
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There's a thread over in the Atrix 4G forums where some people are working on a port from the Galaxy R kernel. You may want to follow that thread and offer your assistence there, because chances are that any progress that benefits the Atrix will benefit the Photon in the long run.
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In theory that is sound, but the Atrix has a much newer kernel version than ours from the start (not sure how that happened with our device being more recent release). If you're planning to try, make sure that you have device protection or a good number of devices to work with....they've already hard bricked one or two from what I had seen.
What drivers are required, and I assume you mean for a 3.x kernel?
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Unless you want to rev-eng a couple of parts of the kernel to make the GalaxyR kernel exaclty compatible with the Photon, you won't be able to use the stuff. Sorry.
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Unless you want to rev-eng a couple of parts of the kernel to make the GalaxyR kernel exaclty compatible with the Photon, you won't be able to use the stuff. Sorry.
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What ever happened to the magic kernel?
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What ever happened to the magic kernel?
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I was wondering the samething, have heard any news of it, he must not be able to release it.
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I was wondering the samething, have heard any news of it, he must not be able to release it.
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Yeah, he said he had something special for us, but never told us what it was.
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R2DeeTard said:
Yeah, he said he had something special for us, but never told us what it was.
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maybe, jut maybe some day it will be leaked.
after the screwing Moto gave us he might as well post it. wtf are they gonna do? lock our damn phones?
My guess is it just never panned out and the guy didn't want to disappoint us. This was around the time of the Atrix leak, and that never amounted to anything, and a bunch of people got let down. It's my theory, which is far from concrete, that the leak included Photon files as well, that also never amounted to anything, but less was said here, so fewer people will be let down. I'm personally not worried. Come whatever may. My phone may not be able to do MMS or camcorder, or run Chrome or Swiftkey Flow, but I like it. It does the things I want it to. And it looks sexy as hell. I'd appreciate this mystery kernel or whatever, but I'm not gonna lose sleep if some mad scientist is holding out. Not saying that's what cybik is (I actually don't know much about him), just saying neither of the two extremes affect me much. And they shouldn't affect y'all either. If you're locked I'm sorry, that sucks, so is my brother, but you can run Holo Launcher/Locker and use either utter!, Maluuba, or Dragon Go! for voice commands/personal assistant, Notification Toggle for, well, the toggles, and Dolphin for your browser, and that puts you fairly close to Android 4. Motoblur can't keep a WiFi lock to save its life, but there are apps for that... I'm trying to test one on my wife's phone, but I'm not getting very good data from it. If you're unlocked, you have a lot of good choices as it is.
I may be an Atrix owner, but if the 2.6.39.4 kernel that is being dev'd for the Atrix is a success, couldn't you take the post-dev'd 2.6.39.4 kernel and port it to the Photon?
Hey guys, I've got a question. Our situation with the whole N4 roms and kernel stuff sometimes working "But Dont Do It" but it works "but it doesn't" thing is confusing. So, we have JB, 4.1, all that. What's safe to flash? Like, one place says Now we can use N4 Kernel Sources, then the next line says "Dont flash n4 kernel or face perma brick". All I really want to know short term is Can I flash Paranoid Android from the N4, and long term, whats safe to flash? Thanks guys
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Hey guys, I've got a question. Our situation with the whole N4 roms and kernel stuff sometimes working "But Dont Do It" but it works "but it doesn't" thing is confusing. So, we have JB, 4.1, all that. What's safe to flash? Like, one place says Now we can use N4 Kernel Sources, then the next line says "Dont flash n4 kernel or face perma brick". All I really want to know short term is Can I flash Paranoid Android from the N4, and long term, whats safe to flash? Thanks guys
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If you are converted then you can flash PA on your phone.
I know its a bit confusing when you have people say all kinds of stuff about the conversion but let me put it to you in a way a lot of people can relate. Doing the conversion is like when my mom used to tell me not to have girls spend the night, but I did it anyway because it was awesome.
So basically is up to you... and as you can see they tell you not to convert because the chance of a brick, and then if you do not convert you will still be a risk of a brick for flashing other stuff. You paid for the phone with your own money and you happen to live in a free country so you can pretty much do what ever you want with the phone that you paid for!
Here's what you need to remember. On non converted phones mako aka nexus 4 kernels are compatible but can't just be flashed from the nexus 4 forums because on a nexus 4 the partition map is different and the installer will put the kernel where it expects to find the boot img on a Nexus 4. Our boot partition is not in the same location
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If you are converted then you can flash PA on your phone.
I know its a bit confusing when you have people say all kinds of stuff about the conversion but let me put it to you in a way a lot of people can relate. Doing the conversion is like when my mom used to tell me not to have girls spend the night, but I did it anyway because it was awesome.
So basically is up to you... and as you can see they tell you not to convert because the chance of a brick, and then if you do not convert you will still be a risk of a brick for flashing other stuff. You paid for the phone with your own money and you happen to live in a free country so you can pretty much do what ever you want with the phone that you paid for!
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Awesome analogy, I'll do the conversion when KLP drops, im stoked.
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Here's what you need to remember. On non converted phones mako aka nexus 4 kernels are compatible but can't just be flashed from the nexus 4 forums because on a nexus 4 the partition map is different and the installer will put the kernel where it expects to find the boot img on a Nexus 4. Our boot partition is not in the same location
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Ok, that makes sense. So, The PA build from N4 probably has their kernel built in, and I should wait till someone brings it over here. Thanks guys, I appreciate it.
On the Convert/don't convert issue I agree with what else has been said in this thread. It's your phone, you own it, you can decide whether or not you want to risk something going horribly wrong ™.
I converted my phone and ran N4 stock 4.2.2 for a while. everything worked as expected.
Currently I'm on stock Jellybean, trying to decide if I should stick with it or install one of the AOSP based ROMS.
I like the stock LG camera better for some reason.
Yeah whatever you do, if you do not convert, stick to ROMs posted in the OG forums.
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So after attempting the goomanager method of unlocking my Galaxy S4 and after getting stuck in odin mode, and after a little more limited research, I have read in a few forums that you CANNOT unlock the bootloader of this particular model. Can some please verify or repudiate this for me, and if this is not the case, can someone guide me to a forum that can help me, because I haven't read a forum that specifies whether or not their method will work on this model of the Galaxy S4.
Thanks for any and all help...
First off I'm guessing you didn't read any of the stickies on this forum about rooting and or unlocking this device. Secondly, it depends on which bootloader version you have as to if you can unlock it.
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Idk exactly what you're talking about, but this phone is rooted and what are you talking about "bootloader version?" Are you making things up? If you're talking about my build number I am MK2. I'm not sure what you're talking about lol. Help me out here.
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Idk exactly what you're talking about, but this phone is rooted and what are you talking about "bootloader version?" Are you making things up? If you're talking about my build number I am MK2. I'm not sure what you're talking about lol. Help me out here.
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dude you cant unlock bootloader. Only if you were on mdk.... So you need to full wipe odin the factory mk2. then root and then use safestrap. Please read the forums dude
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dude you cant unlock bootloader. Only if you were on mdk.... So you need to full wipe odin the factory mk2. then root and then use safestrap. Please read the forums dude
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Lol, I promise you I have searched up and down for a clear answer and I haven't seen it yet. Besides, most of these forums are several months old and I wasn't sure if anything has changed since the next version of this phone is about to be released. I didn't know if, perhaps, Verizon themselves had released an unlocked bootloader like HTC initially did with the DNA.... And I don't need to odin factory mk2, all I needed was a battery pull. I already have Safestrap installed. I'm way ahead of you. I'm not looking for a work-around. I want this damn bootloader unlocked so I can flash Cyanogemod. If that is still impossible I understand, but you people need to chill out. This is the QUESTION AND ANSWERING forum.
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Lol, I promise you I have searched up and down for a clear answer and I haven't seen it yet. Besides, most of these forums are several months old and I wasn't sure if anything has changed since the next version of this phone is about to be released. I didn't know if, perhaps, Verizon themselves had released an unlocked bootloader like HTC initially did with the DNA.... And I don't need to odin factory mk2, all I needed was a battery pull. I already have Safestrap installed. I'm way ahead of you. I'm not looking for a work-around. I want this damn bootloader unlocked so I can flash Cyanogemod. If that is still impossible I understand, but you people need to chill out. This is the QUESTION AND ANSWERING forum.
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XDA is actually one of the sites that most for the most part is updated daily. There are multiple threads on here stating how the retail version of the Verizon S4 after MDK build ( the 1st release ) cannot have a custom recovery enabling you to flash any aosp ROMs.
Just takes some getting used to when someone is new on here that's all. Browse to the Verizon S4 forums and you'll see a ton of Stickies created addressing these kind of things.
Go to Swappa and get an MDK S4 if you really want CM.
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XDA is actually one of the sites that most for the most part is updated daily. There are multiple threads on here stating how the retail version of the Verizon S4 after MDK build ( the 1st release ) cannot have a custom recovery enabling you to flash any aosp ROMs.
Just takes some getting used to when someone is new on here that's all. Browse to the Verizon S4 forums and you'll see a ton of Stickies created addressing these kind of things.
Go to Swappa and get an MDK S4 if you really want CM.
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See, that's actually helpful. Nice and concise. Believe it or not, I'm not new to XDA. I've been flashing ROMs since my O.G. A855. That phone was a beast! No locked bootloader b.s., one-click-root, simple clockworkmod installation... Those were the good ole days! I simply rarely post because I usually know what I'm doing. My last phone (Droid DNA, wouldn't recommend that phone to anyone) almost kicked my ass. I literally just purchased this Galaxy S4 today and couldn't believe the bootloader is still locked. But alas, Verizon are jerks and you'd probably need 100 years to crack their encryptions on windows 8 64-bit lol. Thanks for the input guys. I suppose I'll settle for Hyperdrive.
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See, that's actually helpful. Nice and concise. Believe it or not, I'm not new to XDA. I've been flashing ROMs since my O.G. A855. That phone was a beast! No locked bootloader b.s., one-click-root, simple clockworkmod installation... Those were the good ole days! I simply rarely post because I usually know what I'm doing. My last phone (Droid DNA, wouldn't recommend that phone to anyone) almost kicked my ass. I literally just purchased this Galaxy S4 today and couldn't believe the bootloader is still locked. But alas, Verizon are jerks and you'd probably need 100 years to crack their encryptions on windows 8 64-bit lol. Thanks for the input guys. I suppose I'll settle for Hyperdrive.
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LOL. "Settle" for Hyperdrive? I am on the developer edition S4 and can flash any of the ROM's for it, including the ASOP, Cyanogen, whatever. I still come back to Hyperdrive. Simply the best (IMHO). Easy to forget that it's TouchWiz based. All the customization one could want. As stable as any. Don't know exactly what limits safestrap may impose but HD is my DD.
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LOL. "Settle" for Hyperdrive? I am on the developer edition S4 and can flash any of the ROM's for it, including the ASOP, Cyanogen, whatever. I still come back to Hyperdrive. Simply the best (IMHO). Easy to forget that it's TouchWiz based. All the customization one could want. As stable as any. Don't know exactly what limits safestrap may impose but HD is my DD.
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I'll trade you my non dev S4... I'm missing CM so bad. HyperDrive isn't bad, it's Just not CM.
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I'll trade you my non dev S4... I'm missing CM so bad. HyperDrive isn't bad, it's Just not CM.
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Thanks, but I'm hanging on to my DEV Edition. Hope you can find one, or at least an MDK.
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Thanks, but I'm hanging on to my DEV Edition. Hope you can find one, or at least an MDK.
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Meh... If the S4 doesn't get unlocked soon, I'll sell it.
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Idk exactly what you're talking about, but this phone is rooted and what are you talking about "bootloader version?" Are you making things up? If you're talking about my build number I am MK2. I'm not sure what you're talking about lol. Help me out here.
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Making things up? No. Apparently you seem to be missing the forest for the trees.
Start with reading this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2606501
Then read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2578569
The important thing to know is NOT the build number, it's the bootloader version. You can run whatever build you want if you have the MDK bootloader, and can't if you don't have that bootloader. So, that's the important question, whether or not you understand it.
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Making things up? No. Apparently you seem to be missing the forest for the trees.
Start with reading this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2606501
Then read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2578569
The important thing to know is NOT the build number, it's the bootloader version. You can run whatever build you want if you have the MDK bootloader, and can't if you don't have that bootloader. So, that's the important question, whether or not you understand it.
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I see, I apologize to the commenter. But this is why I'm here, to get help with what I am not familiar with. I was a hardcore Moto fan for years, all the way from the A855 until they ruined the experience with the Bionic. That was a terrible device. My first non-Moto phone was the HTC DNA. I had that about 8 months before I just got this Samsung yesterday. They all work by the same basic principles but I am finding quirky little differences that throw me off a little. It seems that with every phone I get flashing gets a little more difficult and I am forced to learn more and more about this OS then I ever intended lol. I honestly appreciate the help guys.
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LOL. "Settle" for Hyperdrive? I am on the developer edition S4 and can flash any of the ROM's for it, including the ASOP, Cyanogen, whatever. I still come back to Hyperdrive. Simply the best (IMHO). Easy to forget that it's TouchWiz based. All the customization one could want. As stable as any. Don't know exactly what limits safestrap may impose but HD is my DD.
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HyperDrive is a quirky and clumsy version of CM with mediocre animations. It isn't up to par with a several ROMs, including Eclipse and especially not CM or Paranoid Android. That's my opinion. In fact, I'm about to flash to Eclipse from HD.
wtherrell said:
LOL. "Settle" for Hyperdrive? I am on the developer edition S4 and can flash any of the ROM's for it, including the ASOP, Cyanogen, whatever. I still come back to Hyperdrive. Simply the best (IMHO). Easy to forget that it's TouchWiz based. All the customization one could want. As stable as any. Don't know exactly what limits safestrap may impose but HD is my DD.
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ericerk said:
I'll trade you my non dev S4... I'm missing CM so bad. HyperDrive isn't bad, it's Just not CM.
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Agreed, I'd cut off my left nut to get CM on this device.
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Agreed, I'd cut off my left nut to get CM on this device.
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I'd just buy a dev edition... Save your left nut.