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Ok so I am aware that as of now there is no rollback from the leaked 2.1 to the original 1.5...I haven't seen anyone ask and I'm sorry if this is in the wrong section of the forum...my question is, is there anyway to just completely wipe the phone and reinstall with an image of 1.5. At this point my problems with 2.1 outweigh my want to retain my apps and what not. To reiterate I do not care about losing the information on my phone I just want 1.5 back, is there anyway at all to do this??? I can always reactivate and get my apps back.
if you're on a leak.. you already answered you own question. NO
if you're on OTA 2.1, yes you should be able to roll back to 1.5, I was.
your suggested method is a rollback
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I am pretty sure that this has been tried before... In fact Jemezelle (is that the right spelling?) has been trying everything they can think of to fix the issue at hand, and has had no avail.
The issue is that the bootloader was updated when you installed the leak, and that is what is preventing you from rolling back or reinstalling the 1.5 image or the root image.
What they are trying to do is reload the old bootloader to set everyone who has leak up for rooting or rolling back the phone.
how about this. im sure this is impossible but could we somehow wipe EVERTHING including Android os and the bootloader and start over again from scratch?
Nikolai2.1 said:
how about this. im sure this is impossible but could we somehow wipe EVERTHING including Android os and the bootloader and start over again from scratch?
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No, this is not possible.... if it were everyone on leak would have root at this point.
Ok so I know that this phone had to be blank at one point in time. As in there was no software on it at all. There has to be a way to return it to that state to reload any software you want on it. Maybe it would be an HTC internal program. Because they wipe them and reflash them all the time to refurbish them.
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Ok so I know that this phone had to be blank at one point in time. As in there was no software on it at all. There has to be a way to return it to that state to reload any software you want on it. Maybe it would be an HTC internal program. Because they wipe them and reflash them all the time to refurbish them.
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Exactly. any HTC people among us willing to be awesome?
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I used to have the leaked 2.1 on my Eris. I had the 3rd leak and went to the Verizon store after the 2.1 OTA came out and complained because I didn't have any audio output from my handset or speaker. They just gave me a replacement with 1.5 on it cause I told them that the OTA update to 2.1 was what caused the problem. I suggest trying to do that. Good luck.
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I used to have the leaked 2.1 on my Eris. I had the 3rd leak and went to the Verizon store after the 2.1 OTA came out and complained because I didn't have any audio output from my handset or speaker. They just gave me a replacement with 1.5 on it cause I told them that the OTA update to 2.1 was what caused the problem. I suggest trying to do that. Good luck.
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Totally. Fraud is cool. ...perfect user name by the way.
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Totally. Fraud is cool. ...perfect user name by the way.
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I can't say that I haven't done something like that myself. I figure, as long as the phone is in good condition, then that is the big deal, they can still sell it, and I have a phone that I can actually work with. Not only that, he might have actually had audio problems.. Which would normally be covered under the warranty.
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Totally. Fraud is cool. ...perfect user name by the way.
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It wasn't fraud. The 3rd leak is supposedly the same as the OTA. And my audio wouldn't work. Couldn't listen to music through the 3.5mm jack or the speaker, and I didn't get any sound when in calls. I had to reboot my phone every time I wanted to make a call.
is there a way i could cough short out cough my 3.5 mm jack so i could get a new phone?
1. Get an extension cord.
2. Cut cord in half, exposing bare wires.
3. Plug cord into electrical outlet.
4. While holding your phone, insert energized bare wires into phone's audio lack.
5. Profit!!
*please note: Derrek7503 is not responsible for any damages to your person or property resulting from using this patented technique.
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petec920 said:
is there a way i could cough short out cough my 3.5 mm jack so i could get a new phone?
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that is fraud man , u really shouldnt post **** like that here , people get real pissed off
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1. Get an extension cord.
2. Cut cord in half, exposing bare wires.
3. Plug cord into electrical outlet.
4. While holding your phone, insert energized bare wires into phone's audio lack.
5. Profit!!
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Sir, that there, sir, is fraud. should not be posted in these forums, against the law, and against forum policy.
Wow ECLIPSE3 you got like no sense of humor. I would have to guess that was a joke. What idiot would run 110 volts of current through their phone. You need to lighten up Mr. High and mighty. And anyone that would try that make sure you got some good health insurance cause your going to get fried. But also I heard it works real good if you stand in a tub full of water when you do it. LMFAO
but really don't damage your phone to try to get a new one. It's an Eris give it time it will brick on its own. Ha
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Wow ECLIPSE3 you got like no sense of humor. I would have to guess that was a joke. What idiot would run 110 volts of current through their phone. You need to lighten up Mr. High and mighty. And anyone that would try that make sure you got some good health insurance cause your going to get fried. But also I heard it works real good if you stand in a tub full of water when you do it. LMFAO
but really don't damage your phone to try to get a new one. It's an Eris give it time it will brick on its own. Ha
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I think Eclipse was being sarcastic. FFS...
actually, i was being blunt. that is fraud to knowingly do that to a company or person. it actually is against the law. and talking about fraud is actually against forum policy.
I run a fine line between against the law, and walking the line. talk to me outside of the forums, and i will tell you all about it. talk to me in here, and i will follow the law, and forum policy, because it is what it is.
i do like a nice joke now and then, but when the user doesnt know when your joking about how to get a new phone, and actually giving him instructions, then that brings up a lot of questions. if you said something like "dont actually do this, as it could hurt yourself, and is against the law to defraud a company." that i would be find with that.
Thanks, and have a great day!
For us with currently unlockable bootloaders (branded phones), will removing the sim-lock give us the option to unlock the bootloader?
No
That was a definitive answer. Strange, cause I know people with unlockable bootloaders in their Arcs and Rays have managed to unlock them.
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We just have to wait for a dev to crack it
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That was a definitive answer. Strange, cause I know people with unlockable bootloaders in their Arcs and Rays have managed to unlock them.
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I can confirm, O2 UK unlock code does not alter the bootloader status
Slightly worried about getting the phone from Rogers here. Hopefully the Sony store will have a working unit so I can enter the command into the dialer to see if I can easily unlock it or not.
Daymmm, this is hard to hear lol...
am i right in saying that we cant root our phones without unlocking the bootloader first?
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Daymmm, this is hard to hear lol...
am i right in saying that we cant root our phones without unlocking the bootloader first?
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Currently there is no way to root without unlocking the bootloader, it will probably come at some point, but not now .
There is no drawback to unlocking your bootloader though, as they will still probably accept your device for warranty, unless you fry your phone with overclocking and such.
But yea, branded phones cant be unlocked at this moment, or well, they haven't figured it out yet. So if you are branded you can't even unlock your bootloader...yet . Give it time, everything will be figured out in time .
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Slightly worried about getting the phone from Rogers here. Hopefully the Sony store will have a working unit so I can enter the command into the dialer to see if I can easily unlock it or not.
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I am under the impression that selling it in the Canadian Sony store means it will not be branded for any carrier, since they'll be offering the phone unlocked. Probably even if they offer it on contract with a carrier like Rogers, it would still be unlocked, but just subsidized with your contract plan.
edit: They did say that the phone is exclusively with the Sony Store in Canada, so you can't get it straight from Rogers anyways, so no worries!
If there is brand in rogers, I am pretty sure they will lock the bootloader just like they did in xperia arc
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Bought mine from the sony store locked to rogers. I can confirm that the bootloader are in fact locked. Bought mine at launch early tuesday morning.(12th)
They currently only sell XpS's locked to rogers. They unfortunately don't sell the unbranded version(/unlocked). They were also surprised by this fact apparently.
BTW the rogers bloatware that came with the device is annoying as hell. If you're going to buy on frim the Sony store in canada. Debranding would be the first thing I would suggest to do. Seeing as rooting or custom roming is out of the question.
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Have to admit that i'm a little disappointed i got my phone as soon as it was released on my neywork.
That was before the information came to light, that branded fw's have their bootloaders locked.
Had i known that BEFORE i took the plunge, i would have upgraded via a third party mobile phone shop.
I am even more disappointed to see custom roms and tweaks coming out, only to find myself unable to go anywhere near them. Grrrr!
I have de-branded my Xps but i still have the bloat-crap on it. Which is now filling the ten whole spaces in my main menu.
I have been checking on here everyday hoping for a root solution and also on the omnius and setool sites but still i am without a solution :-( and my biggest concern of all is...
As most the devs and rom chefs have unlocked bootloaders, that means hardly anyone (if anyone) will be working on a solution. Double :-(
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Kiefels said:
Have to admit that i'm a little disappointed i got my phone as soon as it was released on my neywork.
That was before the information came to light, that branded fw's have their bootloaders locked.
Had i known that BEFORE i took the plunge, i would have upgraded via a third party mobile phone shop.
I am even more disappointed to see custom roms and tweaks coming out, only to find myself unable to go anywhere near them. Grrrr!
I have de-branded my Xps but i still have the bloat-crap on it. Which is now filling the ten whole spaces in my main menu.
I have been checking on here everyday hoping for a root solution and also on the omnius and setool sites but still i am without a solution :-( and my biggest concern of all is...
As most the devs and rom chefs have unlocked bootloaders, that means hardly anyone (if anyone) will be working on a solution. Double :-(
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I hear you bro
Don't worry, it will come
I have faith in this community that something will be figured out. A few weeks ago it wasn't even possible to flash custom kernels and such, and they managed to figure it out. Now that things are flowing nicely, the rom developers have started working on making things again, and maybe there's more things being looked into in terms of rooting.
I've been here since my X1 and the community hasn't let me down yet, I'm confident they will find a way to get a root, and probably (given the speed even a tester CM9 came out) before ICS.
I guess you might have wait for those paid software like setool .... It will be like the same case like xperia arc. Rogers or any branded phone do not allow bootloader unlock.
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My XS was locked to Orange UK 10 minutes back. Bootloader unlockable - No.
Got the code from Orange and phone unlocked to any network now.
Imagine my surprise when I saw this: Bootloader unlockable - Yes
Talk about double bonus
Too bad the phone is going to Sony on Monday for the yellow screen issue.
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My XS was locked to Orange UK 10 minutes back. Bootloader unlockable - No.
Got the code from Orange and phone unlocked to any network now.
Imagine my surprise when I saw this: Bootloader unlockable - Yes
Talk about double bonus
Too bad the phone is going to Sony on Monday for the yellow screen issue.
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Interesting... I'm a bit skeptical though...
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Yeah, I can't take the plunge and use this phone as my daily driver. Not with Timescape (or whatever you call the Sony UI). I want to be able to use AOSP apps. What I hate is when the UI elements creep over when you're using an app (stuff like checkboxes) and it just makes the overall experience feel inconsistant.
I have since buying the phone debranded it and flashed the singpore rom, and it does a good job at eliminating bloatware, but I want to go in deeper and install CM9 whenever that's ready.
The phone does have what looks like the test point connections, I wanted to mess around with them but I didn't have the proper screws to remove the battery cover. Anyone know what the size of the screws are so I can get a screwdriver that fits?
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The phone does have what looks like the test point connections, I wanted to mess around with them but I didn't have the proper screws to remove the battery cover. Anyone know what the size of the screws are so I can get a screwdriver that fits?
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If you could have done the test point process, I'm sure it would already be posted here. It's quite possible there will be some type of testpoint exploit in the future.. But as of now not the case. I wouldnt suggest messing around inside your phone unless your ready to void your warrenty and at least somewhat know what your doing.
Who knows you could be some secret dev-ninja-genius. ...but then again your asking about screwdriver sizes instead of just eyeballing it like most people would do, so I very much doubt that bro.
Just my 2 cents.
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If you could have done the test point process, I'm sure it would already be posted here. It's quite possible there will be some type of testpoint exploit in the future.. But as of now not the case. I wouldnt suggest messing around inside your phone unless your ready to void your warrenty and at least somewhat know what your doing.
Who knows you could be some secret dev-ninja-genius. ...but then again your asking about screwdriver sizes instead of just eyeballing it like most people would do, so I very much doubt that bro.
Just my 2 cents.
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I know you were just trying to be mindfull of what happens to my phone and stuff, but if I "eyeballed" the size what good would it do if I don't have a small enough bit to fit the screw? I was able to remove the frearson screws but am missing the torx.
A test point method is still possible (maybe) but the reason that there are no posts about it is that the software used (Omnius, SEtools, etc) is not yet compatible with the XS.
Im toooo interested too, my phone has bootloader blocked for my phone company, so I cant get root or do anything
Im waiting, I hope too much they find a solution soon !
So I need to send my Atrix back to Motorola and need to flash a .sbf file in order to relock it (running CM7 for now).
I've read tutorials so I'm not concerned about the procedure but more about which .sbf file I need. My Atrix was bought from ibood.de so it's probably coming from Belgium or The Nertherlands.
Any idea of the version that is used ?
Here's a screenshot of the box for some info : http://i.imgur.com/8j7DP.jpg
Thanks !
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So I need to send my Atrix back to Motorola and need to flash a .sbf file in order to relock it (running CM7 for now).
I've read tutorials so I'm not concerned about the procedure but more about which .sbf file I need. My Atrix was bought from ibood.de so it's probably coming from Belgium or The Nertherlands.
Any idea of the version that is used ?
Here's a screenshot of the box for some info : http://i.imgur.com/8j7DP.jpg
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you dont need to reload original (i sent mine with just a 2.3.6 fruitcake rom)
they will lock your phone forever with new stock rom (no way to unlock it with current procedures)
hope it help[s
Do they always lock it ? Don't you think it has to do with the fact that you send it unlocked ?
Sometimes they don't permalock it, but most of the time they do. Just assume it is going to get locked.
That's super ****ty. And there's nothing that can be done to unlock it ?
I mean, I don't even think that is legal, they just can't change my product if they want it. It's mine now and I want them to fix it not to change it.
Not only do they cancel ICS but they would now stuck me with stock rom !
DannyBiker said:
That's super ****ty. And there's nothing that can be done to unlock it ?
I mean, I don't even think that is legal, they just can't change my product if they want it. It's mine now and I want them to fix it not to change it.
Not only do they cancel ICS but they would now stuck me with stock rom !
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You can blame all the media corps and their desire to control media consumption for that. The primary reason for locked bootloaders has a lot to do with companies and groups like Netflix, the cable industry, MPAA/RIAA, etc. not being willing to allow their services if certain protectionist measures aren't put in place.
As for locking it and it being legal? They can simply give you a replacement and it be locked and claim it was cheaper to swap it than fix it. What's worse is that there is a growing debate over who owns devices once purchased and devices purchased on subsidy could be used as being considered owned by the carrier or manufacturer and only 'leased' to the customer. Now that's what I'd call pretty s****y because if they get away with that then we'd own nothing which is ideal for any company on the ownership side of the deal.
And sorry for being a little off topic but it's definitely something that will only get worse before it gets better.
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There ulis nothing illegal with them permalocking the bootloader on your device.
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The primary reason for locked bootloaders has a lot to do with companies and groups like Netflix, the cable industry, MPAA/RIAA, etc. not being willing to allow their services if certain protectionist measures aren't put in place.
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That may be true for the US but I'm European (so is my Atrix) where Netflix and cables companies don't have any kind of power on that level (for now) + the UE tend to make laws to prevent those situations.
So can I hope that lock issue is US-only ? Did it happen to non-US users ?
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That may be true for the US but I'm European (so is my Atrix) where Netflix and cables companies don't have any kind of power on that level (for now) + the UE tend to make laws to prevent those situations.
So can I hope that lock issue is US-only ? Did it happen to non-US users ?
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I'm not really sure but I'd be willing to bet if it goes to a US facility it'll get locked regardless.
Also, looking at the type number it appears it's the UK version but don't take my word on it.
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I really doubt it will cross the Atlantic...
Okay, I'll see if I can get a confirmation on that UK suggestion. Thanks for that !
Now that this phone is officially released, has anyone found a way to root it? I have the sprint version which is the ls992 and I want to root it. I saw a one click tool online but it's not in XDA so I don't think it's reliable. Thanks for any help
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By the way, in case any of you were wondering, I'm coming from the LG g3 (ls990). I like the smaller screen, the fingerprint reader is very responsive, I dislike the moved volume buttons, dislike the audio jack being moved to the top although it DOES sound better, actually a good bit clearer. It feels really good in my hand but does get hotter than the LG g3. The material on the back has a good grippy feel almost, it's not particularly slick which is a good thing. I could hardly use my g3 with the stock back because of how slick it was. The cameras are PHENOMENAL. All of the picture modes provided are outstanding and not just gimmicks in my opinion.
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JCase claims to have a root method already but refuses to release it... even with his rep I doubt his claims.
If the bootloader is unlockable, it should be relatively easy to do.
I also have the Sprint version. The only thing that's keeping me from getting it rooted so far is the inability to get it into Fastboot to flash a custom recovery.
I've documented my findings so far here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-lg-g5/how-to/bootloader-unlock-root-ive-t3350356
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I also have the Sprint version. The only thing that's keeping me from getting it rooted so far is the inability to get it into Fastboot to flash a custom recovery.
I've documented my findings so far here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-lg-g5/how-to/bootloader-unlock-root-ive-t3350356
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So the Sprint version has BL locked?
islandfever said:
So the Sprint version has BL locked?
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It appears so. I can't even get into fastboot.
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It appears so. I can't even get into fastboot.
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Well bad news from Tmobile - I currently have the sprint ls990 LG G3 and decided to make the move to tmobile for the G5 because I was sick of locked bootloaders. The tmobile g5 does indeed have an unlockable bootloader however, LG seems to be using a custom bootloader on the G5 that wont flash anything that isnt verified. Tmobile's G5 already has a TWRP build and noone can flash it because of dm-verity. Essentially the tmobile appears to have an unlocked bootloader but lg has changed the bootloader so that it cant flash anything. That's the current status and I should add that I have not been able to try anything for myself because my phone hasnt arrived yet. But if that is the case on T-Mobile, then it's going to be even harder on Verizon, AT&T and Sprint.
its locked but there's an unlock switch in the developers' options.
I came from lg g3 as well. Massive improvement and loving it so far.I have it thru verizon. Hoping for root soon that's all I really care about.
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ROOT????
Well, Made the jump for my lg g3, which loved, but this phone is quite a bit more awesome... Now all we need is root... Where are all the big hitters like @jcase, @autoprime, @Shelnutt2, @thecubed (IOMonster)??? I know one of these masterminds can get'r done...
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Well, Made the jump for my lg g3, which loved, but this phone is quite a bit more awesome... Now all we need is root... Where are all the big hitters like @jcase, @autoprime, @Shelnutt2, @thecubed (IOMonster)??? I know one of these masterminds can get'r done...
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Not with a locked bootloader unless an exploit is found. It looks like the same uphill climb as with the SD820 S7/S7E now.
So for now no root, no development
fiddy619 said:
Well, Made the jump for my lg g3, which loved, but this phone is quite a bit more awesome... Now all we need is root... Where are all the big hitters like @jcase, @autoprime, @Shelnutt2, @thecubed (IOMonster)??? I know one of these masterminds can get'r done...
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May see something at a talk later this year
Omg, if anyone can get this thing rooted, I'll throw 50 bucks your way. This is the only thing keeping my from buying this device 0.0
ill throw 100$ your way right now to get this phone rooted @jcase
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ill throw 100$ your way right now to get this phone rooted @jcase
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Me too.
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This would be the best phone, but no root or aosp/cm just kills it. So useless. Way too many new phones that are for "noobs" only. No unlock, no root, no use. Makes me so mad at these oem's
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This would be the best phone, but no root or aosp/cm just kills it. So useless. Way too many new phones that are for "noobs" only. No unlock, no root, no use. Makes me so mad at these oem's
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It saves them a lot of time and money. Any noob able to root and unlock could accidentally flash the complete wrong system and recovery resulting in a pretty hard brick and if they allow rooting and unlocking then they would be kind of obligated to help them fix it. Even if they said it voided the warranty then they would still get tons of calls complaining.
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It saves them a lot of time and money. Any noob able to root and unlock could accidentally flash the complete wrong system and recovery resulting in a pretty hard brick and if they allow rooting and unlocking then they would be kind of obligated to help them fix it. Even if they said it voided the warranty then they would still get tons of calls complaining.
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That just doesn't make any sense though, if I buy a laptop, and or a desktop, and I install Linux and then it blows up, they're just going to tell me LOL sorry too bad. Same thing should go for phones. But if something unrelated to the software messes up, I would expect them to cover it no matter what, just like on my laptop, while I am not running the original OS software that came with it, they honor the warranty for the headphone jack breaking. Because that has absolutely nothing to do with it. The point is, if I buy something it is mine, I should have an absolute one-hundred-percent administrator privileges on any device that I can purchase. If not I need to get an extremely heavy discount for not truly owning the device.
But this is getting off topic, the whole point is that we really need to get the G5 rooted, because it honestly would be the best Android device out there if it was rooted.
Imagine this thing in running cm13, it will be perfect. Good camera, type c, replaceable battery so that way it doesn't have a finite life span, micro SD for super music users like myself. And upgrade modules , it's the future.
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That just doesn't make any sense though, if I buy a laptop, and or a desktop, and I install Linux and then it blows up, they're just going to tell me LOL sorry too bad. Same thing should go for phones. But if something unrelated to the software messes up, I would expect them to cover it no matter what, just like on my laptop, while I am not running the original OS software that came with it, they honor the warranty for the headphone jack breaking. Because that has absolutely nothing to do with it. The point is, if I buy something it is mine, I should have an absolute one-hundred-percent administrator privileges on any device that I can purchase. If not I need to get an extremely heavy discount for not truly owning the device.
But this is getting off topic, the whole point is that we really need to get the G5 rooted, because it honestly would be the best Android device out there if it was rooted.
Imagine this thing in running cm13, it will be perfect. Good camera, type c, replaceable battery so that way it doesn't have a finite life span, micro SD for super music users like myself. And upgrade modules , it's the future.
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I think it mostly has to do with them not wanting the end user to be able to modify the device to get around things like paid hotspots and such. Carriers like sprint that have unlimited data but a paid by the GB hotspot plan potentially lose lots of money off of users getting it free with root. Also you probably have an ISP that rents you a cable modem. Those things are locked down and while you can buy your own - their locked down one, if modified can potentially increase speeds or bypass a meter. I think that ISPs (including cell carriers) like complete control so they can grab every penny and make it difficult to escape their grasps. Once again these are just my assumptions so I could be horribly wrong.
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Hi everyone.
I've pre-ordered an S23 Ultra and have also purchased a 2 year Samsung Care + plan. I've been using a OnePlus 5 from 5+ years now and the last Samsung device I used was Galaxy S2.
Since Samsung's warranty becomes void if the Knox is tripped, my question is, in case there is a screen/ hardware damage to a rooted device, can it be claimed for repair/ replacement under Samsung Care+?
Because in case a rooted device will not be considered under Samsung Care+ plan too, I think I would prefer to cancel the plan. I'm looking for your suggestions on this. I am located in Canada.
P.s. I see the following exception point mentioned in the T&C's of Samsung Care+, "Device malfunction or damage due to improper installation on, or improper equipment modification to the device."
It's up to Samsung. They may charge you for a new mobo as part of the repair. I would use abd edits to optimize it instead.
Drops will likely be it's biggest enemy; use a good case. These are heavy, corner hitting, face planting happy phones when dropped. With no case a 3 foot drop onto concrete will likely damage it.
You can't trip Knox or root your phone on the Canadian or US S23U. And Samsung Care+ in Canada is only for Canadian phones. So I'm not sure why you're even worrying about this problem?
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You can't trip Knox or root your phone on the Canadian or US S23U. And Samsung Care+ in Canada is only for Canadian phones. So I'm not sure why you're even worrying about this problem?
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How can you not trip Knox when rooting? Isn't it an electric fuse that trips when the bootloader is unlocked and rooted?
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How can you not trip Knox when rooting? Isn't it an electric fuse that trips when the bootloader is unlocked and rooted?
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I guess they can't unlock bootloader so no chance for knox trip.
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Joloxx9 said:
I guess they can't unlock bootloader so no chance for knox trip.
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Isn't necessary to unlock the bootloader to root the device?
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Isn't necessary to unlock the bootloader to root the device?
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It is necessary and unlocking bootloader trips knox
Joloxx9 said:
It is necessary and unlocking bootloader trips knox
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So, this goes back to @peacey8. How is it possible to not trip Knox when unlocking the bootloader unless there's a country regulation stipulating this?
There currently is no way to unlock the bootloader in the US and Canada. Additionally there is no working root exploit for these phones. It should be near impossible to trip Knox in the locked state. So it's nothing to worry about.
Unlocking the bootloader doesn't trip the Knox efuse, loading an unauthorized bootloader does.
Apparently paid services have been able to unlock the N10+'s and maybe other Snaps. I'm not that interested so haven't followed this too closely. The remote service could potentially install malware and I refuse to risk bricking a valuable device.
blackhawk said:
It's up to Samsung. They may charge you for a new mobo as part of the repair. I would use abd edits to optimize it instead.
Drops will likely be it's biggest enemy; use a good case. These are heavy, corner hitting, face planting happy phones when dropped. With no case a 3 foot drop onto concrete will likely damage it.
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Hi what's abd edits?
It's up to the person checking. Some may take it in for warranty even if the knox is tripped but some won't. I've had that experience before.
marvi0 said:
Hi what's abd edits?
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Using ADB commands to remove bloatware is probably the most common example.
amirage said:
So, this goes back to @peacey8. How is it possible to not trip Knox when unlocking the bootloader unless there's a country regulation stipulating this?
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You cannot unlock the bootloader on North American variants. Only European. So my point is this question is moot, not that Knox won't be tripped if you unlock bootloader.
peacey8 said:
You can't trip Knox or root your phone on the Canadian or US S23U. And Samsung Care+ in Canada is only for Canadian phones. So I'm not sure why you're even worrying about this problem?
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Omg! I've recently shifted to Canada and was not aware about this.
Now I wonder, why did I order this 1900 CA$ device.
Is there no way to unlock bootloader in Canadian S23 Ultra units? I am unsure if I'd be able to manage with a phone without an ability to flash a custom ROM.
therealashish said:
Is there no way to unlock bootloader in Canadian S23 Ultra units?
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Not at this time.
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I am unsure if I'd be able to manage with a phone without an ability to flash a custom ROM.
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Might as well get used to it as this is the way the industry is going. For example OnePlus 11 allows unlocking the bootloader but there is no longer a free way to fix your device if you brick it since the 9RT came out. This has meant that the 10T and 10 Pro have had basically no development.
Pixels have unlockable bootloader still and plenty of custom ROMs are available but... well... you'll be dealing with a lot of other headaches like a battery that probably won't even make it 24 hours on wifi and much less than that on 5G thanks to an inferior Samsung modem. They also have random hardware problems like I've had my screen start flickering and eventually get green lines twice on my Pixel 7 Pro and there have been many others reporting similar issues and now there are reports of pieces straight up falling off the phone surfacing too and this thing has only been out since October...
Pick your poison I guess.
wow , this is nuts . Any reason why other than make sure they sell their own software?
5-8 years ago we were laughing about Apple, but now android are doing the same thing.
Those phone a solid 8 years phone power wise, and the only way to keep them updated is aftermarket ROM !
OP, Im coming also from a OnePLus 5, and also from canada.
I also paid 1900$.
And I'm starting to regret my choice, I have only few days to return it.
Should I get a Oneplus 11 ???
I have had Android Phones since the OG T-Mobile G1. Back then, I rooted EVERY phone I have had.
Now, what is the big deal about Rooting? EVERYTHING I rooted for, you can do now without rooting. I don't get it.
Maybe I am just getting old? LOL!
Talderon said:
Now, what is the big deal about Rooting? EVERYTHING I rooted for, you can do now without rooting.
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There are still some apps that don't work without root. For example I use Network Signal Guru to read the QCI and report my findings back to reddit. I also use root so that I can take screenshots of any app or screen I choose (the secure flag really irritates me - even Apple doesn't dictate where and when you can take a screenshot of crap on your own device yet I can't even take a screenshot of the Comcast cap usage screen to send to my roommate unless I log into their website).
I can live without both of these things which is why I decided to get the S23U but I'll miss them regardless.
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There are still some apps that don't work without root. For example I use Network Signal Guru to read the QCI and report my findings back to reddit. I also use root so that I can take screenshots of any app or screen I choose (the secure flag really irritates me - even Apple doesn't dictate where and when you can take a screenshot of crap on your own device yet I can't even take a screenshot of the Comcast cap usage screen to send to my roommate unless I log into their website).
I can live without both of these things which is why I decided to get the S23U but I'll miss them regardless.
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Thanks!! I get that some apps won't work without root, but it seems now that people want to root more to say they did than have a real reason for it.
I e given up on rooting mainly because of the inherent stability issue with Custom ROMs and the constant flashing.
Again, I just may be getting old. Lol!!!