im currently rooted and running Adeo rom, will there be an effect if my battery fully drains?
No, its the same as any other phone if the battery hits zero plug it in ;-)
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Clienterror said:
No, its the same as any other phone if the battery hits zero plug it in ;-)
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i heard that when you fully drain your battery and then fully charge it, then your battery would be better than before....?
fRenZy-_- said:
i heard that when you fully drain your battery and then fully charge it, then your battery would be better than before....?
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Kinda sorta....the modern lithium battery does not have a memory like the old nickel ones. But what happens is as your phone charges/drains it builds statistics to know what zero percent actually is. So your battery doesn't really physically store more power, your system just learns what full and empty mean for your battery and your phone just reports a more accurate battery percent.
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i learnt it the hard way...if u let it go down to 0, it wont charge from the computer usb cable.
I had to find a wall charger..
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im currently rooted and running Adeo rom, will there be an effect if my battery fully drains?
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If you drain your battery to 0, it will be unusable (will not charge), you'll have to buy a new one. The phone should shut off before it reaches 0 to help keep this from happening, but I have not tested this with the Atrix.
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i learnt it the hard way...if u let it go down to 0, it wont charge from the computer usb cable.
I had to find a wall charger..
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and not just any wall charger will work... I tried borrowing one from someone at work. I thought 850ma would work, but it was 5.0V and it barely powered the phone up. 3 hours later was only 20% charged.
the motorola chargers are 5.1v.. they charge much faster.
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and not just any wall charger will work... I tried borrowing one from someone at work. I thought 850ma would work, but it was 5.0V and it barely powered the phone up. 3 hours later was only 20% charged.
the motorola chargers are 5.1v.. they charge much faster.
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I mostly use the one I got with my Moto headset. It's 5.0/550mA and it works pretty well. I use it when sleeping (keeps wifi/pandora running.)
Haven't really bothered trying to time either one, though. Mostly I use the headset charger due to having a much longer cord that isn't as stiff as the usb one. I have to use an extender on that one and it's annoying.
Go to Monoprice they have ten foot USB cords under $5.00 dollars best place to buy any cable needed.
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If you drain your battery to 0, it will be unusable (will not charge), you'll have to buy a new one. The phone should shut off before it reaches 0 to help keep this from happening, but I have not tested this with the Atrix.
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This is the biggest myth about Li-ions. Every lithium ion battery MUST have regulatory circuity built INTO the battery for safety reasons and so it can actually take a charge. This regulatory chip also prevents the battery from dropping below an actual power level of around 20-25% (not too sure about the percentage). Yes, you CANNOT drain a lithium battery fully unless you're using naked cells with some complex machinery. And yes this also means that your battery actually has MORE life than it says. but no you cannot access it.
This spare life does however increase the batteries life span because the cells go through fewer charge cycles.
You don't need to drain your battery fully to make it perform better. I can't link (new member) but search google for lithium. Battery care and hit the batteryuniversity link. It explains everything.
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If you drain your battery to 0, it will be unusable (will not charge), you'll have to buy a new one. The phone should shut off before it reaches 0 to help keep this from happening, but I have not tested this with the Atrix.
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All phones shut off before they are completely dead. You are also slightly incorrect, the thing that makes the battery unusable is it draining below a specific voltage, usually 2.8v. You would'nt have to buy a new phone, just a new battery. But this is nothing to worry about because the phone is not capable of draining it to that point.
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I'm a truck driver, I work 12-16 hours a day. I use my bolt to listen to my hometown radio shows, and slacker when they aren't on.
Is it a bad thing to have it plugged in all day? I read once its fully charged it runs off the charger power..
Thoughts?
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Someone did a test and after being fully charged the phone resorts to a trickle charge so you should be okay but probably.not the best thing for your battery.
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Someone did a test and after being fully charged the phone resorts to a trickle charge so you should be okay but probably.not the best thing for your battery.
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so i came from the evo 4G where people threw hissy fits both ways. There were people who would claim left and right that it is bad for the battery, that the battery will catch fire, melt, explode, what have you, and then there was the other like 80% of us who used trickle charging with out a problem.
personally, and what I seemed to notice, the like 6 people who actually claimed to have issues with trickle charging had purchased and were using super cheap chinese batteries.
So i am going to disagree, and say there will be no issue with trickle charging unless you start using cheap chinese batteries, and even then the percentage chance of you having an issue is so minor.
I have noticed that until it gets to 100% it gets awfully hot. If I leave it charged/plugged in all day its cool to the touch.
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zipkicker said:
I have noticed that until it gets to 100% it gets awfully hot. If I leave it charged/plugged in all day its cool to the touch.
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looking at battery monitor widget my phone after hitting 100% charge is pulling 180 or less mA while "idle" and the temp sits about 32-33C. Seems to keep the Voltage very very steady. Whatever HTC did I really doubt it will hurt your phone in anyway.
I don't think it will hurt the phone. I do think it will make the battery have even less life though. I.e, when you finally do unplug it, the battery won't last very long. Batteries need to be charged and discharged often to work well.
My laptop at home stays plugged in all the time. And when I unplug it, it lasts about 10 minutes on the battery. lol
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I don't think it will hurt the phone. I do think it will make the battery have even less life though. I.e, when you finally do unplug it, the battery won't last very long. Batteries need to be charged and discharged often to work well.
My laptop at home stays plugged in all the time. And when I unplug it, it lasts about 10 minutes on the battery. lol
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uh, false statement is fasle.
http://www.laptoptravel.com/Article.aspx?ID=214
your laptop battery is probably not a lithium-ion battery. Please read said link. Your laptop battery is a NiMH which has the "memory" your talking about. Our cellphones have Lithium-Ion batteries.
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uh, false statement is fasle.
http://www.laptoptravel.com/Article.aspx?ID=214
your laptop battery is probably not a lithium-ion battery. Please read said link. Your laptop battery is a NiMH which has the "memory" your talking about. Our cellphones have Lithium-Ion batteries.
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No, my statement was 100% true. It might've been irrelevant because it's a different type of battery, but it was not false as you said.
I have read that LiOn batteries do not develop memories as bad as other types, but they still do to some extent. FWIW.
If you watch your phone, it stops charging when its full. I often pull the phone off the charger with less then 100 charge due to this and this is also why the bump charge will bump it back up too 100%
So leaving it plugged in ask day will have no harmful effects at all.
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If you watch your phone, it stops charging when its full. I often pull the phone off the charger with less then 100 charge due to this and this is also why the bump charge will bump it back up too 100%
So leaving it plugged in ask day will have no harmful effects at all.
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actually battery monitor widget says the opposite. My phone continues to charge after hitting 100%. It doesn't do what my evo would do stock, where it would charge to 100%, let the phone die to 90% and then charge back to 100%.
R1lover said:
If you watch your phone, it stops charging when its full. I often pull the phone off the charger with less then 100 charge due to this and this is also why the bump charge will bump it back up too 100%
So leaving it plugged in ask day will have no harmful effects at all.
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now how do you bump charge a tbolt that when powered off and u plug into a charger boots into recovery instead of staying off?
full instructions r1lover would be awesome bc i want to try "bump charging" but not gonna make my own unplug and plug in instruction since i never have done it before lol.
RafficaX said:
now how do you bump charge a tbolt that when powered off and u plug into a charger boots into recovery instead of staying off?
full instructions r1lover would be awesome bc i want to try "bump charging" but not gonna make my own unplug and plug in instruction since i never have done it before lol.
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Personally I never shut my phone off, it's on 24/7/365, if I don't want to be bothered it goes into silent mode but is always on.
For me, I plug the phone in every night when I go to bed... when I wake up, I unplug it for a minute and then plug it back in. Normally when I wake up it's anywhere between 95-100% showing.... Once I'm done getting ready I grab the phone and off I go with a full charged battery.
Unlike some phones the android phones have never kept a 100% charge while plugged in... this is one thing I do miss from the iphone, it always kept it at 100% while plugged in. The android phones stop charging when it get's to 100% and start again at an unkown %.
There is no magic... the only reason for unplulgging it is to start the charging process again.
what's the exact name and publisher of that battery widget? i'd like to take a look at it.
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what's the exact name and publisher of that battery widget? i'd like to take a look at it.
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its battery monitor widget in the market. Its a white box with a green battery on it.
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actually battery monitor widget says the opposite. My phone continues to charge after hitting 100%. It doesn't do what my evo would do stock, where it would charge to 100%, let the phone die to 90% and then charge back to 100%.
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Use the built in battery widget and see what you get.. it will display the actual percentage on the screen.
I doubt it's a problem, it should be capable of switching to a trickle or over to powering vs. charging in the circuitry. The worst thing you can do for these relative to the charge is drain them completely and let them sit drained. These days for the longest life, you'd keep it at around 3/4 charged, but it's not a huge difference in life usually. The reason for that is lithium batteries hold a native charge by default.
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No, my statement was 100% true. It might've been irrelevant because it's a different type of battery, but it was not false as you said.
I have read that LiOn batteries do not develop memories as bad as other types, but they still do to some extent. FWIW.
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They do not have memory. I dug up an old article I wrote nearly 6 years ago where I touch on that fact even notebookforums.com/thread94560.html
When I charge my phone it only charges to 99%. I'll leave it in for a while, come back and it's only at 99%. Either charging in the wall, or on the computer. It used to make it to 100% then all of a sudden it just stays at 99% regardless how long it charges. So the charging light always stays on and never lets me know when it's fully charged.
Any idea why?
Thanks.
Mine does that too once in a while, randomly.
But the Sensation would do that to randomly.
Dunno why.
Battery is strange...
I get that too. But eventually it will get to 100%. There has been times where it was charged to 100% then suddenly drop to 99% even though it still plugged in.
Did you get your phone recently? I'm thinking its because the battery needs to be conditioned.
Mines always does that, as soon as I unplug it it jumps to 98%. Im hoping ARHD fixes this
I've installed Battery Widget (from Market) and it reports 100%. I plug in every night and in the morning it reads 100%.
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Mines always does that, as soon as I unplug it it jumps to 98%. Im hoping ARHD fixes this
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ARHD, what is that?
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ARHD, what is that?
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New Amaze Android Revolution HD ROM by mike1986?
This happens with many devices. I have not seen this yet on my Amaze but I am sure at some point it will happen. Try turning the phone off and charging it to 100% then power it on also try running the battery all the way down and letting it charge to full UNINTERRUPTED over night. If those dont help you can always try another rom with better battery management or go into a t-mobile store and get a battery replacement if your battery is still under warranty. Hope this helps
HTC does this on a lot of phones. It is a safety default to keep the battery healthy and safe. I had this issue with the Evo. The only way to fully charge a battery is to have other a wall charger or a SBC kernel.
its the best sense rom known to man in my opinion.
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HTC does this on a lot of phones. It is a safety default to keep the battery healthy and safe. I had this issue with the Evo. The only way to fully charge and battery is to have other a wall charger or a SBC kernel.
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My stock battery is 3.8v, and it only goes to 100% if I charge it in the phone. If I use my wall charger, it shows up at 99% when I put it back in my phone. I have two aftermarket batteries that show about 98% when charged from the wall. I am thinking that the phone charging circuit is set for 3.8v, and might possibly overheat the aftermarket batteries (3.7v). I saw one review that said these batteries melted the top of his SIM card. I'm not planning on trying that; I use the stock, charging every night, and swap the spares in if I run out of charge during the day.
I just remember hearing the same stories when I had my evo. You could charge for hours and unplug it and it would almost immediately drop to 99 or 98. So my previous statement may or may not help.
I charged mine over nite and woke up to it being 99%, left it for another hour or two and it hit 100%. I would say to leave it a little longer to get that last 1%.
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For anyone who is running quicksense, if you want better battery life, charge your phone completely and go into recovery > Advanced> wipe battery stats. And done!
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I charged mine over nite and woke up to it being 99%, left it for another hour or two and it hit 100%. I would say to leave it a little longer to get that last 1%.
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I find that if my phone its powered off while charging, it shows 100. If powered on, it shoes 99.
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this is normal for lithium ion batteries...it also depends how the manufacturer perceives the battery...some manufeacturers say that your phone is 100 percent but it might only be around 95-98...overcharging lithium ions are bad...also some manufacturers say you have 10 percent left while you might actually have 15 or maybe to percent left...this is a fail safe method to shut off the phone and keep the battery from draining completely WHICH IS REALLY REALLY BAD FOR LITHIUM IONS...OVER CHARGING THE BATTERY IS BAD TOO...perhaps htc's thresh holds are a little different and actual to the real battery life.
also not a good idea to use your phone or any lithium ion device while its charging
powering off your phone to charge it overnight is the best idea to give you lithium ion a long life but this is not practical. this is why it says 100 percent when you turn off the phone and 99 when you're phone is off....it confuses the phone: " A portable device must be turned off during charge. This allows the battery to reach the set threshold voltage unhindered, and enables terminating charge on low current. A parasitic load (which means using phone or turning screen on while its charging) confuses the charger by depressing the battery voltage and preventing the current in the saturation stage to drop low. A battery may be fully charged, but the prevailing conditions prompt a continued charge. This causes undue battery stress and compromises safety."
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/a..._ion_batteries
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This was common on my droid x for so long while flashing but is it a good form of practice on the Rezound? The reason I am asking is I flashed Bamfs Cubed rom and my charging led goes from orange to green at 98%, never making it to 100. Would it be wise to go ahead and wipe battery stats and see if it fixes it? I presume there would be no harm to the system or battery in doing this.
Thanks!
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This was common on my droid x for so long while flashing but is it a good form of practice on the Rezound? The reason I am asking is I flashed Bamfs Cubed rom and my charging led goes from orange to green at 98%, never making it to 100. Would it be wise to go ahead and wipe battery stats and see if it fixes it? I presume there would be no harm to the system or battery in doing this.
Thanks!
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There's really no harm in doing it but Google has come out and said that wiping battery stats doesn't do anything.
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...-battery-stats-does-not-improve-battery-life/
I always got a good laugh when people would post how "bump charging" & then deleting this file gave them an immediate dramatic increase in battery life.
This has to be the ultimate placebo effect.........
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I always got a good laugh when people would post how "bump charging" & then deleting this file gave them an immediate dramatic increase in battery life.
This has to be the ultimate placebo effect.........
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Don't agree. Just like I don't agree with people saying task killers are bad. I guess with the way I use my phone I get different results. I have always noticed better battery life wiping battery stats. Now it could be that the OS will fix battery stats itself over time, but when you ate bouncing around a different rom every two days then the OS doesn't really get a better feel for the battery.
Plus...I came from the evo 4G where we uses trickle charge kernels and I want those back. Never had better battery life than when I had those. Was doing 35+ hours a charge on the stock battery.
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Don't agree. Just like I don't agree with people saying task killers are bad. I guess with the way I use my phone I get different results. I have always noticed better battery life wiping battery stats. Now it could be that the OS will fix battery stats itself over time, but when you ate bouncing around a different rom every two days then the OS doesn't really get a better feel for the battery.
Plus...I came from the evo 4G where we uses trickle charge kernels and I want those back. Never had better battery life than when I had those. Was doing 35+ hours a charge on the stock battery.
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tried telling our kernel devs about the trickle charge?
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dyetheskin said:
tried telling our kernel devs about the trickle charge?
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Haven't bothered since I never could get the thunderbolt devs to try it. There was "reported" cases with no proof that it caused some batteries to go bad. Even then they were cheap Chinese batteries that 2 people total I think it was claimed went bad.
It was always nice to pull your phone off the charger in the morning at 100% instead of it showing 100% and you pulling it off the charger to say 92%.
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Haven't bothered since I never could get the thunderbolt devs to try it. There was "reported" cases with no proof that it caused some batteries to go bad. Even then they were cheap Chinese batteries that 2 people total I think it was claimed went bad.
It was always nice to pull your phone off the charger in the morning at 100% instead of it showing 100% and you pulling it off the charger to say 92%.
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Well there is the fact that Li-Ion batteries can not be trickle charged after reaching full charge...
Well they can, but it will hurt the battery. And that isn't me talking from a few bad battery posts... but from knowing how Li-ion batteries work and charge... and reading engineering papers about Li-Ion batteries.
Luckily trickle charging is slow and most people only leave the battery on the charger over night at most. Plus they charge while the device is running and using power. Should someone leave the charger going for 24 hours, with the device off, we would probably be hearing about a fire.
What is probably happening with these trickle charge kernels is:
The phone is going to use some power at all times, the trickle charge is probably just enough to keep the phone running and preventing the battery from draining slowly.
This works because there are two ways to handle full charge status while the charger is still connected.
1) When the battery reaches full charge, the battery is isolated from the device preventing the device from draining the battery. The device then runs solely off the power coming in from the charger. (this method would not benefit from trickle charging, and forcing the battery to continue charging will at best slowly hurt the battery over time, and at worst cause a fire/explosion)
2) When the battery reaches full charge, the charger is isolated from the device. The device runs off the battery until the charge drops to a certain level (usually around 90% or so) before charging starts again.
The second way is how the Rezound does it, and most other devices as well.
The first way requires the ability to switch instantly to the battery from external power without any drop in voltage. This is difficult to do, as a drop in voltage could cause the device to crash/freeze, so many devices do not use this method.
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Well there is the fact that Li-Ion batteries can not be trickle charged after reaching full charge...
Well they can, but it will hurt the battery. And that isn't me talking from a few bad battery posts... but from knowing how Li-ion batteries work and charge... and reading engineering papers about Li-Ion batteries.
Luckily trickle charging is slow and most people only leave the battery on the charger over night at most. Plus they charge while the device is running and using power. Should someone leave the charger going for 24 hours, with the device off, we would probably be hearing about a fire.
What is probably happening with these trickle charge kernels is:
The phone is going to use some power at all times, the trickle charge is probably just enough to keep the phone running and preventing the battery from draining slowly.
This works because there are two ways to handle full charge status while the charger is still connected.
1) When the battery reaches full charge, the battery is isolated from the device preventing the device from draining the battery. The device then runs solely off the power coming in from the charger. (this method would not benefit from trickle charging, and forcing the battery to continue charging will at best slowly hurt the battery over time, and at worst cause a fire/explosion)
2) When the battery reaches full charge, the charger is isolated from the device. The device runs off the battery until the charge drops to a certain level (usually around 90% or so) before charging starts again.
The second way is how the Rezound does it, and most other devices as well.
The first way requires the ability to switch instantly to the battery from external power without any drop in voltage. This is difficult to do, as a drop in voltage could cause the device to crash/freeze, so many devices do not use this method.
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Well if the device was off then the kernel wouldn't be running and trickle charging the battery but when turned on and the battery fully charged they would very slowly charge the battery as it dies. So there should be no risk of the battery catching fire. And anyway, the way the evo trickle charges worked is they would charge your battery to a certain voltage. Once it hit that voltage it would stop charging until it dropped. So it wouldn't be hard to protect the battery.
Did this for 6 months on the evo with no issues.
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Are we going to need to charge this phone for 8-10 prior to first use?
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They always say to do that, but I have never been able to keep hands off a new phone that long.
pdappcgeek said:
Are we going to need to charge this phone for 8-10 prior to first use?
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Usually they come about half charged so you'll be good for a few hours. The 8-10 hour rule was for older battery technology (nickel cadmium), the new kind (lithium polymer I think?) is much more flexible as far as charging schedules. I don't think you have to do anything special for the initial charge.
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Are we going to need to charge this phone for 8-10 prior to first use?
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The better question is can you wait that long?
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Honestly, when you get your phone (and once a month) you should let your battery drain completely (within 2% is a decent rule) and then charge all the way. Do this for 2-3 cycles and you battery will last a lot longer. This is true for any electronics.
Skullmonkey said:
Honestly, when you get your phone (and once a month) you should let your battery drain completely (within 2% is a decent rule) and then charge all the way. Do this for 2-3 cycles and you battery will last a lot longer. This is true for any electronics.
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not quite - the below is from Battery University in regards to lithium ion batteries (which is what's in the evo);
If at all possible, avoid frequent full discharges and charge more often between uses. If full discharges cannot be avoided, try utilizing a larger battery. Partial discharge on Li-ion is fine; there is no memory and the battery does not need periodic full discharge cycles other than to calibrate the fuel gauge on a smart battery.
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And
Lithium-ion is a very clean system and does not need formatting when new, nor does it require the level of maintenance that nickel-based batteries do. The first charge is no different than the fifth or the 50th. Formatting makes little difference because the maximum capacity is available right from the beginning. Nor does a full discharge improve the capacity once faded. In most cases, a low capacity signals the end of life. A discharge/charge may be beneficial for calibrating a “smart” battery, but this service only addresses the digital part of the pack and does nothing to improve the electrochemical battery. Instructions to charge a new battery for eight hours are seen as “old school” from the nickel battery days.
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alainater said:
The better question is can you wait that long?
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LOL..... I ask because I don't want to have to feel guilty about not waiting!
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Ummm.... Yes? Maybe? HELL TO THE NO!
Lithium Polymer batteries are not the same as Lithium Ion batteries.
Avoid draining them to the point the phone shuts off. If they get too low they die.
Never run them down on purpose.
I run RC trucks, I have been using LiPo batteries for several years.
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Honestly, when you get your phone (and once a month) you should let your battery drain completely (within 2% is a decent rule) and then charge all the way. Do this for 2-3 cycles and you battery will last a lot longer. This is true for any electronics.
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not quite - the below is from Battery University in regards to lithium ion batteries (which is what's in the evo);
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If the phone's charge time is roughly 2-4 hours, what will charging it 8-10 accomplish?
The Sprint store opens and activates phones on the spot regardless of charge, which leads me to believe that--while some/most Sprint store Employees aren't very knowledgeable in electronics, I'm sure they would have been told in one of the many meetings they have that you need to not do this and inform the customer of needing to charge their phone for __ amount of time before using it.
At any rate I'm just playing along with the possibility. Of course you don't need to charge your phone any amount of time before using it the first time. Our battery technology has evolved to the point where trying to keep track of charge schedules is irrelevant and not needed. Seriously, if it were, they would have provided a small paper calendar with your phone so that you can mark when the last time you fully discharged it as well as instructions on how to care for your battery.
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not quite - the below is from Battery University in regards to lithium ion batteries (which is what's in the evo);
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While this is accurate, I still always try to full discharge as often as possible. I do this because the phone reads battery information and calibrates the battery percentage based on that.
In my own unscientific research, it seems that frequent charging messes up the battery readings. I know that there was once an article about wiping battery stats being a placebo effect, but it really does seem to help when you wipe, full charge, full discharge. The phone always seems to last longer, but its likely because the phone is properly calibrating the max/min capacity of the battery accurately.
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The batteries in phones anymore do not use memory in the actual cell. The phone itself does keep record of the battery to help protect it, and clearing that out and re-calibrating the battery by draining it can help, but doing full drains to the battery will just reduce the overall life span of the battery.
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Lithium Polymer batteries are not the same as Lithium Ion batteries.
Avoid draining them to the point the phone shuts off. If they get too low they die.
Never run them down on purpose.
I run RC trucks, I have been using LiPo batteries for several years.
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The batteries in phones are not lipos.. they are lithium ion... Putting a lipo in a phone is just asking for death or injury lol..
When the first EVO came out this method was dine to train the phone more then the battery and I still use it.. drain till it turns off.. turn back on..keep doing this till it will not turn on..full charge it.. take off charger and put back on till led is green again. I've never burnt out a battery but I can't professional it helped battery life but as I said when EVO first came out battery life was horrid
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grrmisfit said:
The batteries in phones are not lipos.. they are lithium ion... Putting a lipo in a phone is just asking for death or injury lol..
When the first EVO came out this method was dine to train the phone more then the battery and I still use it.. drain till it turns off.. turn back on..keep doing this till it will not turn on..full charge it.. take off charger and put back on till led is green again. I've never burnt out a battery but I can't professional it helped battery life but as I said when EVO first came out battery life was horrid
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The LG Fusic had a LiPo battery.
Yeah i bet some phones will have no charge after customs played with them for a while and did not turn them off and put them back in for us to get screwed. But you may have a update already apply as well to the phone.
fsuwade said:
Yeah i bet some phones will have no charge after customs played with them for a while and did not turn them off and put them back in for us to get screwed. But you may have a update already apply as well to the phone.
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If I recall correctly, only a sample from each batch was tested and that tested sample was not shipped out to customers.
Yup thats what I heard as well
What I read says this phone has a LiPo battery. They are being used more often in portable electronics than you think.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium-ion_polymer_battery
grrmisfit said:
The batteries in phones are not lipos.. they are lithium ion... Putting a lipo in a phone is just asking for death or injury lol..
When the first EVO came out this method was dine to train the phone more then the battery and I still use it.. drain till it turns off.. turn back on..keep doing this till it will not turn on..full charge it.. take off charger and put back on till led is green again. I've never burnt out a battery but I can't professional it helped battery life but as I said when EVO first came out battery life was horrid
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I heard LiPo as well.
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simple solution.
keep the phone plugged in while you use it. duh.
charge at the wall and your office computer
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Perform shallow discharges.
Instead of discharging to 0% all the time, lithium-ion batteries do best when you discharge them for a little bit, then charge them for a little bit. The table below, from Battery University, shows that discharges to 50% are better for your battery's long-term life than, say, small discharges to 90% or large discharges to 0% (since the 50% discharges provide the best number of cycles-to-usage ratio).
Don't leave it fully charged.
Similarly, lithium-ion batteries don't need to be charged all the way to 100%. In fact, they'd prefer not to be—so the 40%-80% rule you heard is a good guideline. If you do charge it to 100%, don't leave it plugged in. This is something most of us do, but it's another thing that will degrade your battery's health.
Fully discharge it once a month.
This may seem contradictory, but hear us out. While lithium-ion batteries shouldn't be discharged regularly, most modern batteries are what's known as "smart batteries". This feature can get miscalibrated after a lot of shallow discharges. So, manufacturers recommend fully discharging your battery once a month to make sure this stays accurate.
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Is this true?
you can be as neurotic as you like over this, but it really d doesn't make a lot of difference, just enjoy your phone.
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The only big no no is to constantly discharge to below 5% and recharge . That according to the experts leads to a much shorter battery life .
Yes leaving on charge is a waste .
Wiping Battery stats does not improve battery life .
But all this is an old story posted time and again and bring nothing new .
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Yes leaving on charge is a waste
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It may be a waste but is it detrimental to the battery? I always plug my phone in when I go to bed and take it off the charger when I get up in the morning.
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It may be a waste but is it detrimental to the battery? I always plug my phone in when I go to bed and take it off the charger when I get up in the morning.
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there is a built in feature that stops charging once battery level reaches 100%. so there will be no harm to your battery. I have doing the same since gs1
My old Nokia 3510 needed a battery replacement after 4-5 years since it only held 3 days worth of charge instead of the usual 7-8.
I constantly let it discharge from 100% (overnight charging) to empty, the replacement battery cost me 5 bucks.
My Galaxy S1's battery has, after 2 years, no observable loss in capacity with overnight charging to 100% and dropping to 10-15% over 1-2 days.
A replacement battery would cost roughly 15 bucks.
I could go on the same about my Laptop, Netbook, Tablet and other devices with rechargeable Li-Ion batteries.
The point is; don't try to forcefully extend your battery life, enjoy your phone. Most people replace the phone every 1-2 years and the batteries are designed to live that long with high usage and deep-discharging. If yours should not or you plan to keep the phone longer, a replacement battery is cheap.
there is a built in feature that stops charging once battery level reaches 100%.
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All Lithium batteries have it (and need it) since there is a risk of damage, fire or even explosion when it is overcharged. That's why not the phone but the battery itself has the corresponding controller. Since the controller cannot measure the exact capacity of the battery (only an estimate), it is recomended to deep-discharge and fully charge (charge-cycle) the battery once in a while to reset the controller's counter.
Battery replacement is cheap and easy as abc. That's the benefit of having removable battery. Just enjoy your phone.
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So why do Sammy stop charging at 99%
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So why do Sammy stop charging at 99%
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Why don't you just read the thread and you will see the explanation?!
i have always been charging my samsung galaxy note and sIII overnight ever since i got them , i stil have great battery life !
akboiboi said:
i have always been charging my samsung galaxy note and sIII overnight ever since i got them , i stil have great battery life !
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Same here. No broblem.
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Still no one answered my question... :silly:
Is the small 40%-80% charges better for the long-term battery life?