Why overclock? - Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'be flashed bionix v 1.3.1 and im pretty happy with its responsivness and with voodoo. I've been looking into flashing other kernals but then I got to thinking, what can I for with a overclocked 1.3 ghz processor that I can't do with a 1 ghz processor. Is there really a difference? What are the advantages and disadvantages to overclocking a smart phone?
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Smooths some things out good for hard gaming things like n64oid but if your happy with your phone then you don't need to overclock
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yes for gaming only, there are no other benefits other than Bragging rights to say " I got the fastest phone...etc..." You lose on battery big time and risk "browning out some of the hardware effectively frying your phone.

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Okay so can someone explain why the Nexus S can handle overclocks ours can't?

Why?
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What do you mean? How high are they overclocking the Nexus S?
Lots of Vibrants are oc'ed to 1400 with good stability.
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jRi0T68 said:
What do you mean? How high are they overclocking the Nexus S?
Lots of Vibrants are oc'ed to 1400 with good stability.
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But all nexus s's are good to overclock
Unlike the vibrant I can't oc
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Have you tried Dragon 4? It was MUCH more stable for me.
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Yes The Team Whiskey-/ Dragon and some of the Eugene kernels can over clock very well I had one 1.45 The problem with o.c is the battery drain
But any of those do well in the over clocking world.
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But all nexus s's are good to overclock
Unlike the vibrant I can't oc
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Im pretty sure its not all the nexus s.. Some phones can handles better than others...ur just unlucky.get another one
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Alanrocks15 said:
Why?
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Because you touch yourself at night.. lmao I'm sorry I couldn't help it 8P
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theebest said:
Because you touch yourself at night.. lmao I'm sorry I couldn't help it 8P
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Haha Family Guy
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It could just mean that the developers of Nexus S put a higher voltage at the higher clock speed, which also means that it kills your phone faster.
You don't gain something from nothing. Oh and I am not talking about battery life....
dragon 3.6 overckolcked to 1.4 has battery almost as good as stock ! DoW doesent because it overclocks gpu at the same time and this is whats jams your phone when u run graphic benchmark.
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dragon 3.6 overckolcked to 1.4 has battery almost as good as stock ! DoW doesent because it overclocks gpu at the same time and this is whats jams your phone when u run graphic benchmark.
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Ooohhhh so can they not overclock the gpu?
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dragon kernel . get it
bartek25 said:
dragon kernel . get it
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I have but I can only run up to 1.28 not 1.4 I know I can run. 1.3 because the dow 1.3 old kernel ran flawless
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Alanrocks15 said:
Why?
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A newer device with (in all likelihood...this is a guess based on decades of experience with CPU's) a newer revision stepping of the Hummingbird CPU. CPU/GPU manufacturers are ALWAYS fine tuning their designs, primarily for higher yields and better stability. This plays out predictably in the desktop x86 environment with concepts like speed-binning and overclocking in that arena, so it should come as no surprise that this plays out in other areas as well.
Newer board layout with design experience gleaned from manufacturing a few million Galaxy S devices? Reduced capacitance and resistance issues due to layout changes, altering of support components, changing trace lengths...etc, so on and so forth. All of these things can play out for significant and measurable improvements in stability. Manufacturers learn as they "do", the same as we do.
In other words, there are all sorts of easily plausible reasons why.
These sorts of things all have a significant effect in the desktop/laptop system world, so there is no reason to assume they wouldn't carry over to the smartphone universe.

[Q] is 1.4 Ghz overclock possible???

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This seems to use the same hardware as our Galaxy S phones, does this mean we can possibly hit 1.4Ghz?
Overclocking doesn't always help your phone, but heats up the battery and it is possible that battery to be exploded(well, thats 1.6)
There aren't even stable 1.3ghz out yet, so we would have to wait and see.
We can get to 1.2GhZ already and it honestly doesn't make a difference in day to day usage except that your battery life will drop a good bit.
Can we get to 1.4? Maybe.
Is the hummingbird super finicky at anything over 1.2? Yep.
Could this be a slightly revised chip? Probably.
Is there much benefit?
Not really.
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We can get to 1.2GhZ already and it honestly doesn't make a difference in day to day usage except that your battery life will drop a good bit.
Can we get to 1.4? Maybe.
Is the hummingbird super finicky at anything over 1.2? Yep.
Could this be a slightly revised chip? Probably.
Is there much benefit?
Not really.
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ITs a different prossesor all together
GS+ = 1.4GHz Qualcomm MSM8255T chip
fascinate= Samsung Hummingbird S5PC110 (ARM Cortex A8), 1 GHz
Well then, thats out the window now isn't it
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Well then, thats out the window now isn't it
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I'm sure we will see more then 1.2 ghz. I module overclock mine to 1.3 with a 1.2 kernel. And never any issues. Every phone is different and I can't even tell a drop in battery. I get over 48 hours per charge with regular usage. Plus I think one of the devs are working on 1.1-1.6ghz kernels as we speak.......... its all about voltages clock speeds and the right phone. Alot is possible with the right combo.
There was an old 1.6 voodoo rom a million years ago. I ran 1.3 till froyo hit now im at 1.2
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I'm sure we will see more then 1.2 ghz. I module overclock mine to 1.3 with a 1.2 kernel. And never any issues. Every phone is different and I can't even tell a drop in battery. I get over 48 hours per charge with regular usage. Plus I think one of the devs are working on 1.1-1.6ghz kernels as we speak.......... its all about voltages clock speeds and the right phone. Alot is possible with the right combo.
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Trade phones with me. Ill post shipping.
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disclaimer: i personally think overclocking on high end phones is pointless...see my rant on uncutandroid for that though
anyway the other sgs phones all have 1.4 ghz oc kernels...so the processor is capable of it certainly...the nexus has 1.5 kernels, but thats on a .35 and gingerbread
so its certainly possible that those who *need* to overclock that high will be happy when nem has had more than a week to spend with kernel source
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disclaimer: i personally think overclocking on high end phones is pointless...see my rant on uncutandroid for that though
anyway the other sgs phones all have 1.4 ghz oc kernels...so the processor is capable of it certainly...the nexus has 1.5 kernels, but thats on a .35 and gingerbread
so its certainly possible that those who *need* to overclock that high will be happy when nem has had more than a week to spend with kernel source
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Totally agree with you on the reason that its pointless overclocking high end phones. I've had an Evo, Epic, Droid 2, Droid X, and now the Fascinate. Overclocking and quadrant scores are pointless to me because its already freaking fast enough.
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Trade phones with me. Ill post shipping.
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No thanks. I got lucky j guess. My other one isn't to bad itself.

Is overstock out of date?

I haven't been up with xda lately and I'm a little out loop and I'm running team whiskey 1.3.1 with overstock and I love it and I'm hitting just at 2000. but my question is, are there better Rom and kernels combos plus I'm running zeam launcher.
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dont do the oc thing alot but i hear the dragon modz kernel is pretty crazy. Not sure if its better then overstock as im not a oc person.
If your Vibrant can handle OCing then you should definitely upgrade to Bullet. Extremely snappy yet stable and battery efficient at the same time. Oh and regarding Zeam, there's a new update 2.9.5
It's out of date with regards to voodoo sound. If you're sticking with no oc for overstock I'd try Bali.
Is dragon voodoo friendly? I have read topic and I just didn't see it.
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Get Bullet. Very very nice. 2500 quadrant scores.
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movieaddict said:
dont do the oc thing alot but i hear the dragon modz kernel is pretty crazy. Not sure if its better then overstock as im not a oc person.
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yes the dragonModz is crazy allows a sorta stable 1.5 ghz
Im pretty darn happy with my trigger rom and overstock. using setcpu at 400 max when screen is off, it only takes about 2% battery when the screen is off. awesssooommmeeee

How many people are stable at 1.6ghz?

Hey, so just like the title says are you stable at 1.6ghz do a little test run quadrent on your phone and than if it passes your probably good but also try 10mins of angry birds just to make sure i on the other hands cannot run quadrent at 1.6ghz
No problems here, but every CPU is different. I've seen some people use 1.5ghz instead
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No problems here, but every CPU is different. I've seen some people use 1.5ghz instead
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yep thats right every cpu is different but how do you overclock to 1.5ghz instead?
Running stable at 1.6 also. Check this to run at 1.5.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469710
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yep thats right every cpu is different but how do you overclock to 1.5ghz instead?
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I'm stable at 1.5 (1350mV), though I don't run it at that daily. It was covered in steve's init thread in development. Look in the last few pages.
i run antutu all the time at 1.6 with no problems. guess i got lucky
Ok just gave my 1600mhz 50mv more and its stable now so i can finally overclock a little higher when needed
Stable only to [email protected] here. Locks up after that.
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Mine overclocks to 1.6 with no issues at all. I ran it like that for weeks until I decided that I want longer battery life. The stock speed is still fast, and underclocking still results in acceptable responsiveness.
I use Tasker to overclock my phone when playing certain intensive games. Otherwise, my phone is usually underclocked.
Mine's never crashed at 1.6, but I don't really stress test it there besides with benchmarks.
Mine locks up at 1.4Ghz. Each one is different i guess..
Stable at 1.6 with custom kernels or tegrak on stock kernel. UV too.
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Mine is stable at 1.6ghz ✔
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Mine locks up at 1.4Ghz. Each one is different i guess..
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wow have you tried giving it more voltage.
Mine is stable at 1.6. Don't run it at that though regularly.
I've run 1.6 through quadrant and antutu many times. Never crashed.
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I am very stable at 1.6
I have never had any issues at 1.6 and that is on just about every rom. I dont ever keep it at that cuz i dont enjoy sucking my battery but it is definitely fun to show off to others, HAHA! Also I have a captivate and the highest it would let me overclock it was 1.7 and that is ridiculous but it was unstable. lol
I've found a way to make almost every setting I have tried relatively stable. You just have to keep tweaking. It's not as simple as getting an overclock app and maxing. Here are some screen shots I took of a recent bench. This is only at 1632. I customized a I9100 ICS rom to be fully functional on my I777 and I'm scoring higher just above 1600 than I was closer to 1700. I was ranked 720 but those transformer primes! I wish it was only mobile phones on the chart! lol
Mine is stable at 1.6.......but im like everyone else. Don't like watching my battery drop like the ball at times square on new years eve lol .mine seems pretty happy at 1.4 with some under volting
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advice about bootloader/overclock

I want unlock bootloader on my ray mostly because of overclock and now wont to now how much is really performance improvement with overclock, in other words does it pay of the risk of loosing warranty?
thx
Unlock bootloader and overclock only if you aren't satisfied with your current performance ... It surely sounds sweet but You will surely void your warranty by overclocking.... If you are a new bie then I don't recommend overclocking because you may brick your device or worst burn your CPU... It is must to have enough basic android experience such as rooting first.
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I am not new i have ray half year now and i was have x8 for 1 year before ray and it was have unlock bootloader, custom kernel, overclock and many other mods, i know android pretty well, i just want to ask someone who overclocked ray is he sadisfied with performance and does it worth
Okay so go ahead ... I don't have ray but walkman .. I've overclocked it and its worth it...
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If u unlock ur bootloader it will void ur warranty. It will be good if u overclock it, like others say.
I've seen some reports about ppl burning their phones because of OC....
I would not really recommend it. 1GHz is enough for your phone being smooth.
But if you must OC it, be careful and don't overdo it. Don't OC to like 1.6GHz - 1.8GHz like some sorry dumbasses do.
After all It's better to have a working phone then a burned one
I'm not trying to be a smartass here, just trying to make you think twice before doing it
According to my experience 100mhz =+2 max fps u can use supercharger v6,built.prop n init.d tweaks these won't affect your phone's life
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Yeah, already did all of that
Ive seen a guy in antutu. He is using stock 2.3.4 oc=2.0gGhz he got 6000+ score!! That's half of galaxy s3 running on stock
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you can relock bootloader
i'm on 1.6 GHz on JellyBean on xperia mini and it is stable
I clocked my phone to 1.5Ghz and this is more than perfect. I don't have fps issues in games anymore (at least those I've played yet) and the phone doesn't seem to be too hot. It feels more like charging the battery, so I think there's no problem.
What abt nova 3 multiplayer??
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prithvim7 said:
Ive seen a guy in antutu. He is using stock 2.3.4 oc=2.0gGhz he got 6000+ score!! That's half of galaxy s3 running on stock
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I'm sure his phone enjoyed the 10 minutes of powerful life it had before going into service!
Whatis the max safe overclock freq to run nova 3 multiplayer smoothly??I've found that after installing chainfire I've seen huge graphic improvement which reduced performance but after uninstalling cf graphics were decreased but gaming was lot smoother,could you please tell me how dalvik.vm.heapsize works for games
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Whatis the max safe overclock freq to run nova 3 multiplayer smoothly??I've found that after installing chainfire I've seen huge graphic improvement which reduced performance but after uninstalling cf graphics were decreased but gaming was lot smoother,could you please tell me how dalvik.vm.heapsize works for games
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It consumes more battery to gain more performance. Set it to higher if u want to play big games. But it will drain battery more
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What about dalvil.VM?can I gain smoother performance by increasing it?
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