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I recently purchased a Nordic Track 9500 Elite Pro. This bad boy has a 10" android tablet built in. They really don't want you messing with the android part much, but I am sure there are plenty of other users out there like me that want to do more!
This is my first post so I am unable to show the pictures via the link. Hopefully you can copy and past the text to view the images. I will try to repost on my website so it all flows.
I don't see where a post like this would go, I am not sure if at some point it would gain it's own device forum... That would be exciting. So for now I will post here. I will also post my initial findings for others in the community that may want to purchase this treadmill and can't find any information regarding the built in Android Tablet with WiFi.
This image shows the version information. From what I can tell it looks like they purchase an APAD from someone and then stick it inside of their device. They also must have wrote some special drivers and software to interface with the equipment and hardware. I was very happy to see a mainstream current android OS.
Android OS 2.2
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Here are the pre-installed apps. Pretty basic. (note: I was able to find an APK and install Last.FM that wasn't included) Also a major bummer to see was that there wasn't a market application.
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This is the typical workout screen you see.
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I also noticed that the device doesn't have very much memory. This could be due to the built in applications taking up so much space. It only had about 57MB of internal memory free, but it had a built in 2GB SD Card. I have not gotten to the point where I have needed to take it apart yet to see if there is a replaceable SD card. I may wait another 5 years for my warranty to end to do that.
I have tried to install some apps but have not had very much luck. The only app that was I was able to install was the Last.FM.
I tried the follow apps, and they didn't install:
1. Market
2. Angry Birds
3. Pandora
Other disappointments:
1. Designed to not be in the Android Interface. They have an application that runs, and makes it tricky to get to the android desktop. It takes about 3 clicks to get from the main workout screen back to the Android Desktop.
2. The screen is not capacitive, it is resistive. I don't know how much more I need to say about that.
3. Only 3 buttons. Back, Menu, Home. Home takes you to their software not the android home screen. Long press on home does nothing.
4. When i go to the desktop the Time is all over the place. I have tried changing settings in every spot possible but something is telling it what time to think it is, occasionally it is correct... Just don't get it.
Even with the disappointments this thing is sweet. I wish i could install more apps, stream videos from a PC over the WiFi connection and stream music from a PC over the WiFi connection. Maybe with the help of the community we will figure some of these items out... Or I will be the only one who has this that knows about this website!
ntsteele,
How is your experience up to now with your 9500? I am looking at getting the c1250, which is the same as the 9500, but with a smaller motor and no decilne. Is the 10" screen worth it? The rep at Nordictrack told me the only differcence between the 7" screen is the web browser, the google maps display, and some basic apps. But overall the workout system is the same as the 7' display of the 1750 commercial and that you can view the google maps by logging in on ifit.com. Thanks for the info and screen shots.
iFit Android App
Have you or has anyone else been able to pull the apk files off of the NordicTrack Elite 9500 Treadmill. I would be interested to see if it works on any adroid phone to view the menu system.
I played with this today at Google IO. The rep said that the integrated tablet was rev 1 and that they wanted to eventually let users connect their own devices.
what do you need to press to get to the android home screen?
Where I work at there is a Proform Trailrunner 4.0 treadmill that has 10" Android tablet screen. From what I have been told nordic track and proform are made by the same manufacture or something. It was returned because of a broken display unit. Of course I wasn't going to let them throw the old one away so they let me keep it. I trashed the main display and now I have the 10" tablet but cannot power it because the treadmill doesn't operate without a magnetic key. How could I power this thing and see if it works?
I got the new incline trainer x9i which has the 10 inch android interface. I am interested to get in and try installing apps as you have but I am unable to even get to the android home screen. The only time I see it is when I turn the machine on and it is booting up, the screen comes up for a few seconds to where I can hit on the applications button and see what is on it. But within a second after I see the apps it automatically gets routed into the machine exercise interface and I have not figured how to get back to the android home screen from there. How did you do it? It would sure be nice to install a different browser. I hate the fact that I cannot create my own shortcuts. Anyway, love the machine.
How to get to the Android Home Screen
Any luck finding out how to get to the Android Home Screen? I am wanting to do that also. I was able to get to it one time accidentally, but haven't figure out how to stop the machine interface from loading since.
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Ok, same question. I just got a C2150 which is a similar model to the 9500. Slightly smaller motor and belt, but same basic thing with the 10" tablet. I believe it's capacitive now, but still not great as far as that goes.
I too have hit the setup icon when it's booting and it goes to the Android setup screen for a second and then continues to boot into the Nordictrack IFit proprietary stuff.
So I can't believe the posts with the images and no explanation of how you got there? Please share with the rest of us.
Also, my console has a USB connector at the top of the thing. Any idea what if anything that'll let me do?
Thanks!
Anyone figure this out? Seems a shame to have a 10' screen and not be able to install apps on it. There must be some button combination that the Icon service team would use to stop the auto load of the iFit interface.
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I took the tablet apart to see what information can be gathered. Apparently, HANNSTAR (TAIWAN) manufactures the board (HANNSTAR J MV-7); which uses a Samsung ARM8 CPU(5PV210AH-A0 1044); has 512MB; and a 4GB SANDISK FLASH (SDIN2C2-4G).
I haven't been able to find sufficient info to track a compatible ROM, yet I can't imagine for the life of me that HANNSTAR would design this just for Nordic. I am posting some pics hoping that someone might be able to id the hardware, which in turn might help point to a more fruitful search for a workable ROM.
Try to upload pics but not sure if it worked. It's late, and I can't figure out how to do it smoothly yet.
I'm gonna do another bump. I have a similar treadmill (or maybe the exact same one, I lost the the manual with product name). It is of the X9i series and when I saw it in the store, I had to go for it. I was a bit irritated to see that you are locked to the iFit application and you cannot return to the launcher. I need a male to male USB cable to see if I can get a bit of ADB on it.
From the (crappy) performance of it, I can tell it has about 512 MB RAM, a dated CPU clocked at around 600-800MHz, the screen looks like a crappy TFT display at 1280x700. Lastly, this thing runs Froyo. Mine features a full USB port and an Audio in port. Not much to screw around with. Downloads are disabled in the browser, and the Menu key does nothing.
I think something can be done though. The application that controls the treadmill can't crash as it is, and if it ever does FC, the motor shouldn't stop. NordicTrack doesn't have a recovery image up for some reason (thanks, NordicTrack -_-) so that's even less to work with.
Nevertheless, something can be done. It's not really a fun thing for an Android enthusiast to pick up an Android device with such dated hardware (the tredmill itself, as just tredmill is amazing).. Plus, it was $2,100 at Sears.
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here is a video of the Treadmill and the board;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKyf6MHIefk
USB and Audio in is on the right side of the console.
I've had my Nordictrack 9500 Pro for about a year now. Still working well for the most part (I do have messed up deck tension adjuster that I need to call support about).
Would love to be able to unlock the Android device to at least install Netflix, Pandora, etc.
I have had one over the air firmware upgrade that went pretty smoothly. Was hoping more updates would come from Nordictrack, but it has been a long time since that one.
Has anyone else noticed that the Speed Calibration utility under the iFit controls says that it isn't enabled yet? Maybe there's hope for future updates.
fanVrARCHITECT
Greetings,
I have been following this thread as a 9500 owner as well, and looking at what has been posted and see if there is any follow up.
1.) like everyone else what startup combinations may have disabled Nordic Tracks proprietary software.
2.) the usb socket on the top of the console, has anyone had anyluck attempting a usb male to male connection on a laptop? If so what has been tried?
3.) any idea of maybe porting something over via the Ifit updates or account? I noticed the HDvideo inside of the program is pretty descent from what I've seen, and looks like the video plays in the center of main app..just a thought.
I'm looking at getting the male to male usb cable and trying to interface it with the below. .. at least curious if the cable will talk, and most likely this unit is not root so view only but maybe a start if it works.
//www*howtogeek*com/howto/42491/how-to-remote-view-and-control-your-android-phone/
Cheers,
devmo
Did anyone figure out how to get android home screen????
I read somebody was able to email themselves an apk and install it? The tablet enables sideloading? Ding ding ding! I'm going to try sideloading launcherpro or any other replacement launcher to attempt to hijack the home screen
Update: Didn't work on my c2150's tablet. Bastards.... I did however get my c2150's to boot into "safe mode" which I have no idea what that entails. While it was powering on, I held down home and back I believe was the combo.
Update: SUCESS!!! So by booting into "safe" mode, you can hit the preferences launcher while the device is booting to interrupt the ifit loading. From there, go enable unknown sources. Then launch the browser and google "z4 apk" and download it and run it. Did permanent root on mine and it worked.
ENJOY
I forgot. Once you get the device into safe mode, install "smart taskbar" by sideloading. It'll make you able to view a task bar over ifit.
EDIT: Since we don't have a custom recovery, or for that matter even a recovery at all it seems, I've not attempted gapps. Could anyone give a detailed response on how to install this? I assume just unzip it in the root directory? I'm worried about permissions, I always forget what to set there. Also, the device comes pre-bundled with busybox, fyi Another must have for this is adbWireless. I tried editing the init.rc but it seems those changes were for nothing. I'll keep people updated as I discover things etc. I'm by no means a dev, but do know a little.
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I forgot. Once you get the device into safe mode, install "smart taskbar" by sideloading. It'll make you able to view a task bar over ifit.
EDIT: Since we don't have a custom recovery, or for that matter even a recovery at all it seems, I've not attempted gapps. Could anyone give a detailed response on how to install this? I assume just unzip it in the root directory? I'm worried about permissions, I always forget what to set there. Also, the device comes pre-bundled with busybox, fyi Another must have for this is adbWireless. I tried editing the init.rc but it seems those changes were for nothing. I'll keep people updated as I discover things etc. I'm by no means a dev, but do know a little.
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Sorry - can you tell me the exact steps involved here. How do I get to safe mode and then what? I tried Home Back while powering on and it still goes to the ifit screen
You know I'm really not sure what trick it is to make it stay. I had good luck getting it to stay in android rubbing home/back/menu while it booted and as soon as I saw the android home screen, hit the preferences launcher and then grabbed the top menubar and half pulled it down. All I know is that when you get it to stick in android, its always in safe mode which is triggered by some combination of those buttons on boot. Even then it will boot into iFit, but if you go to the settings first, in safe mode, it wont exit that screen.
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Very simple folks. Turn treadmill on and once you see ANDROID appear in the center of the screen, begin pressing the dashes button that is between the home and back buttons on the console. Not sure if holding down works any better. An "unable to load widget" will be seen in middle of screen once the I-FIT software has stopped and safe mode will appear at the lower left hand corner. You'll then be able to check out the various Android options etc for your tablet. Be careful in editing anything unless you know what you are doing! Wouldn't want to brick your treadmill unnecessarily. It took awhile to find the key to safe mode access, due to limited info out there, but I hope users will continue to make some progress on exploiting this device and maybe we'll be able to use it to our liking. I would like to stream my dish television to the tablet like I do on my i phone or i pad. Being able to install the dish app via google app store is what I'm looking forward to. I want to be able to watch tv on my treadmill while exercising. Please keep this thread going! I'm sure that future software updates may allow for a better user interface. The challenge is certainly in the storage capabilities in the tablet itself and the sd card inside.
How to make your Nexus Q awesome with built in Android ICS (using CyanogenMod Trebuchet Launcher per this example).
This is by popular demand on Youtube and other places to demonstrate how I love my Q at the moment, which I obtained from someone who attended IO 2012. I was playing with it to see how capable it is with stock OS and kernel at handling 1080 content. It took me longer to write these instructions than root the device. Much of what is noted here is scattered on the forums and internet, but more than one person told me they didn't see an explanation matching what they saw in the video.
WARNING WARNING WARNING:
If you proceed with these instructions, you will be unlocking your device. If you do not know what "fastboot oem unlock" means, you should research it FIRST and understand you are officially bypassing a disclaimer when running "fastboot oem unlock_accept". If you do not have Jelly Bean and got it off eBay (like me), you will need to hack the actual APK from Google some for core functionality. This document expects advanced understanding of Android, and many assumptions are made. I have tested it locally, but since my Q is already unlocked, I cannot go back to the beginning for complete testing. Proceed at your own caution.
Assumptions: You have a secksy Nexus Q. Also, if you have an ICS client device without Jelly Bean, or the Google Apps aren't doing enough for you, this document covers these areas. I run with the assumption you do not have a JB client device (I own a Note, Tablet S, and HTC Doubleshot all running ICS builds).
Pre-req:
*SKIP IF RUNNING JELLY BEAN ON CLIENT DEVICE* -- Somehow get the NexusQ client apk. I personally updated my SDK value to 16 in build.prop, and it showed up. Then adb pull the apk, use apktool to decompile it, edit the manifest to use SDK version 15 rather than 16, and use apktool/jarsigner to install it to an ICS client.
*SKIP IF YOU HAVE ENABLED USB DEBUGGING ON NEXUS Q* -- Use the Nexus Q Client app (installed above if in ICS) as owner, enable USB Debugging in Advanced. This (should) magically enable ADB Network mode too (it did for me). Via nmap, I found it listening on port 4321.
fastboot is installed on PC.
adb is installed on PC (and can see the Q).
Sources:
http://droidcloudshare.blogspot.com/2012/07/rooting-and-getting-hid-mouse-to-work.html#more
http://bliny.net/blog/post/How-to-Root-Nexus-Q-(Temporarily).aspx
For kernel (modules): git clone https://android.googlesource.com/kernel/omap. Branch is android-omap-steelhead-3.0-ics-aah.
Steps:
Connect PC to Q via USB.
Run 'adb reboot bootloader'
Run 'fastboot oem unlock'. Then (Within 5 seconds run this to confirm): 'fastboot oem unlock_accept'.
Download this file -- http://www.bliny.net/downloads/nexusq-boot.img. It is a Nexus Q boot.img with ro.secure=0, allowing us to remount /system and root device.
Setup USB Debugging in Nexus Q via client app all over again (may require clearing data from client device Nexus Q app).
Run 'adb reboot bootloader'
Run 'fastboot boot nexusq-boot.img'. Your Nexus Q will now boot up unlocked, allowing:
Run 'adb remount'
Push 'su' and 'Superuser.apk' from a good source. I use nightly CM9 su/Superuser from my HTC Doubleshot. Put su in /system/xbin/, put Superuser in /system/app. chmod the su binary 06755. (There's many pages documenting how this is done).
*OPTIONAL BUT RECOMMENDED* -- adb push busybox binary from a known good source (I also use recent CM9 binary). Busybox will allow you to do things like remount /system and other necessary shell commands after the temporary ro.secure=0 boot up. This might also be a good time to push bash, or whatever linux utilities you'd like to have.
*OPTIONAL BUT RECOMMENDED* -- adb install the default Browser.apk from your good source, such as CM9. No browser is on the Q by default. Chrome will work, so will Firefox. Adobe Flash works (very well) with the CM9 Browser.apk in stock ICS on the Q.
*OPTIONAL* -- Install gapps, just like you would via clockworkmod. Hell CWM maybe out there for all I know. I did it manually, pushing the libs/apks/etc to the right places on /system. Gmail/Play/Youtube all work.
Sideload/Install a Launcher, I choose Trebuchet, also from nightly CM9 Doubleshot. adb install the apk, it will work.
*OPTIONAL* -- Sideload as many apks as you like for testing. I was lazy, and grabbed my apps from my Doubleshot /data/app directory. I then did a simple scripted command to install them all. 'for i in *.apk ; do adb install $i ; done'.
Profit.
How I profit:
From a PC or phone (I personally use ssh on my HTC Doubleshot), adb into the device again (I use adb connect network), and run:
'am start com.cyanogenmod.trebuchet/.Launcher'
This starts Trebuchet, and you now have a Launcher. Not everything works (wallpapers and home button mapping), but you have it up. If using USB keyboard like I am, ALT+TAB gets you around well.
Use a USB Micro USB dongle with USB wifi keyboard/mouse combination. I have two of them (adapters and keyboards), they all work. It makes navigation neato.
Install CIFS module: Grab android-omap-steelhead-3.0-ics-aah branch from https://android.googlesource.com/kernel/omap, and compile the CIFS and md4 modules. Push these to the Q via adb. Install them in /system optionally. Load them via insmod. I scripted it: 'for i in /system/lib/modules/* ; do insmod $i ; done'.
EDIT -- See Page 3 for instructions verbose on making a cifs module and loading it.
I map the IP in /etc/hosts on my PC, so "nexusq" is the network address, making adb connect simply 'adb connect nexusq:4321').
I know there's more. I love this thing. Highlights include Netflix and Youtube HQ, Vplayer playing 1080 mkvs of 17gb in size across CIFS, games working (Angry Birds, etc), Apollo music working, G+ is neat, etc.
And there's much more hacking to do, I did this with limited time.
You tube video (CAUTION IT SUCKS FOR SHAKINESS):
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ejYNDt0EUuA
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You tube video (CAUTION IT SUCKS FOR SHAKINESS):
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ejYNDt0EUuA
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i have that youtube shakiness issue even with the stock build when using my galaxy nexus to play the files on the q
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i have that youtube shakiness issue even with the stock build when using my galaxy nexus to play the files on the q
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I actually meant my recording was shaky, as in I was moving all over the place and more focused on showing off stuff than keeping the camera pointed at the TV. I also rambled. It was late. I planned to re-record the video on Youtube, but it picked up popularity over night.
As for Youtube on the Q to the TV via HDMI -- as you can see in the video I am playing Radiohead Coachella HD, and it looks/works great. I have watched quite a bit of content on YouTube without issue.
I got my Q today. Can't wait to modify it to make it more capable of stuff
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Great work! Could you test the tablet remote app to control the q? Would be incredible if it worked. Thanks!
Does the Android Market work?
Are there any apps/limitations that don't work?
How is the responsiveness on the device, using the keyboard and mouse and loading up heavy websites? Can the processor keep up?
I saw in your video that when you press home on the keyboard it takes you to the Nexus Q's "home". Would it be possible to go to your apps on the settings screen and remove all the defaults from the Nexus Q's launcher, then when you press home it should ask you about which home do you want to go to and have a check-box for if you want to set one as default? I'm not sure if that would work, but it's an idea.
Would it be possible for you to post the modified apk that works on ICS devices for those that are unfamiliar with the apktool? I promise a quick and generous donation for your time and effort if you can. :good:
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Great work! Could you test the tablet remote app to control the q? Would be incredible if it worked. Thanks!
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I plan to play with more input devices, specifically Bluetooth soon. I have not had a chance to hack the Q since Saturday, but soon It's near the top of my list.
You say "app" -- is there one in specific you're referring to?
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Does the Android Market work?
Are there any apps/limitations that don't work?
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Yes, Google Play Market works. I don't have a screenshot of it, but I have one of play.google.com telling me my Q is not compatible with Github's new app (I saw it yesterday at work) -- http://dl.dropbox.com/u/44767242/images/google-play-cut.png.
I would say 75% of the apps of the apps I looked at in my history of downloaded apps were "Not Compatible" via Market. I am sure this is due to build.prop data and other build information. Sideloading "Not Compatible" apks proves most are compatible. Since the Market is so vast, many applications do show up as "Compatible" with the Q, and will install natively.
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How is the responsiveness on the device, using the keyboard and mouse and loading up heavy websites? Can the processor keep up?
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Keyboard and mouse are quick. No issues there. Loading heavy websites is fine depending on the type of content on it, and browser chosen. I found some pages that brought it to a halt when using desktop browsing mode (like G+) in Browser.apk from my recent CM9 builds (there's not a Brwoser on the Q). However things I thought would bomb out, like heavy Flash video embedded pages or other pages were fine.
Putting it in Tablet DPI range (~213 or so) makes the Chrome browser use native tabs like you're used to on your PC. @1080p, this is sweet. It's a shame it requires a DPI hack to get this.
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I saw in your video that when you press home on the keyboard it takes you to the Nexus Q's "home". Would it be possible to go to your apps on the settings screen and remove all the defaults from the Nexus Q's launcher, then when you press home it should ask you about which home do you want to go to and have a check-box for if you want to set one as default? I'm not sure if that would work, but it's an idea.
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It's not the defaults option, I did check this. I also installed third party apks to help remap it. I found it's embedded in the startup of the Q's hub activities, and I did not want to rip it out, since I have not found a Factory Restore Image from Google (yet).
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Would it be possible for you to post the modified apk that works on ICS devices for those that are unfamiliar with the apktool? I promise a quick and generous donation for your time and effort if you can. :good:
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I can whip that up. I will make sure it's the latest Nexus Q apk in the Market, which last I looked, had never been updated.
Also JB did drop for AOSP, depending on your device, you could have compatibility soon
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I plan to play with more input devices, specifically Bluetooth soon. I have not had a chance to hack the Q since Saturday, but soon It's near the top of my list.
You say "app" -- is there one in specific you're referring to?
The app is called tablet remote. Name is kind of lame, but here is the link...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wxLDMsImNvbS50b3VybmVzb2wudGFibGV0cmVtb3RlIl0.
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Oh yeah, I got a lot of feedback for this video. and I have more planned (as I am sure plenty others do!).
I created ##nexusq on Freenode, as I could not locate a pre-existing Freenode channel for Nexus Q haxxoring conversation. I am on there. I am not very good at checking XDA.
Is it possible to connect a mouse via bluetooth, or even connect to a laptop via bluetooth?
As for the mouse yeah. Its advertised on the front page:http://www.xda-developers.com/android/connect-an-hid-bluetooth-mouse-to-the-nexus-q/
I'll give you a killer feature request: Play my own media either via (preferred) an attached network drive or a an directly attached drive.
I tried the entire Saturday to make the "Tablet Remote" to work on Q but I couldn't, for some reason the Q showed as connect to the Galaxy Nexus when I asked for the connection but the Gnex showed as declined.
There is something related to the pairing key that is not working, the logcat showed that was not giving the correct key as answer and also the key didn't show on the Q screen...
I'll keep digging it, and really hope that someone discover how to do it quickier than me, it's something that is killing me and it's now the matter of honor!
I'm not too skilled, but without keyboard and mouse I did a lot of tricks on my Q using the adb, waiting for the host cable to start to play hard on it! I hope to discover something that could help the community!
thanks for getting the ball rolling!
Thanks so much for the groundbreaking work on this, I managed to reproduce all the steps excepting compiling CIFS.
To those that want to play networked stuff - I'm able to stream video via upnp over a network either through vplayer or upnp + mxplayer. Able to play angry birds, etc. Although Google Play movies aren't showing the free transformers one I got from Google I/O. Maybe cause it's locked to my Nexus 7?
Sideloading helps a lot, take advantage of adb over the network. Installing gapps from CM9 nightly works awesome. It would be nice to get trebuchet to autostart, I'm sure there's a way to do this, but I'm not knowledgeable enough to know if there's a way to start it via a run time / on boot level.
For keyboard and mouse, I'm using one of these: USB-Micro-Female-Male-Adaptor that I trimmed down with a knife to fit in the port.
I plug in a keyboard with a built in hub and a mouse goes into that. Works great, sort of like an Atrix docked.
If anyone is stuck I'm more than happy to help.
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which program are you using on your sideshoot? I am trying to adb from my transformer prime and I guess I am not as much of an expert as I thought. Any help would be awesome.
ace2die said:
which program are you using on your sideshoot? I am trying to adb from my transformer prime and I guess I am not as much of an expert as I thought. Any help would be awesome.
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Hey there
I'm sideloading on an ubuntu machine. I can't post links yet, but you basically need to follow
http:// forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1550414
That will put adb on your machine. Use a charging cable to connect to the back and use a Nexus 7 to put your Q in developer mode.
Download the fastboot image and follow the directions from there.
Then run the adb scripts from that pc.
You'll also need, as in the instructions, a way to get certain programs off ICS (Su and superuser) and some launcher (trebuchet, nova, etc).
Hope this helps!
I have a 2013 model LG Google TV G3 55GA6450 that was recently gifted to me. Whenever I try to configure it to use the built-in tuner as my video source, I encounter "Unfortunately, VideoInputSetup has stopped"
According to this G+ thread, the error has to do with Google no longer supporting the local channel / programming lineup service thus causing the app to crash, and making the TV unusable as there is no other way to enable the TV Tuner input option without the app.
I have already tried force closing the 'VideoInputSetup' app, clearing its cache, etc. Also tried were a factory reset and using a custom launcher shortcut to launch the different functions of the app. Nothing has worked so far. I am willing, (with help) to extract the app and send it along to whoever and see if they can fix. Or to help any other steps / process to fix the issue.
Optionally, if someone might be willing to help me root and/or upgrade the device to newer Android TV, that would be awesome
I'm having same ANNOYING problem! This guy says he managed to root the TV but not sure if it will help. You need to go to the article since I can't post a url
forum.xda-developers.com/android/help/lg-google-tv-rooted-t2811945
Any fix?
Anyone find a fix to this yet?
deeluk said:
Anyone find a fix to this yet?
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Negative. I was able to find a way to manually add channels to the tuner, but it is currently useless without a way to enable the tuner for Input selection.
Thanks! Could you share the manual process to add channels? Right now, I have a fancy wall paper, would at least like to watch the morning news. Thanks in advance!
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Thanks! Could you share the manual process to add channels? Right now, I have a fancy wall paper, would at least like to watch the morning news. Thanks in advance!
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This will only work if you already have the "Buil-In Tuner" option available under Inputs.
You will need an app to launch custom shortcuts, I am using QuickShortcuts. Some custom launchers can also do this.
In the shortcut app, find the Settings application under "Activities". Expand it and then scroll through the activities until you find "Manual Tuning" (com.android.settings/com.android.settings.lge.channel.ManualScanActivity) and select that and finish setting up the shortcut to it. Launch the shortcut and add the channels you want.
and is there anything that we can using inseed to do this manually? It is working but there is a bad pop up saying "no paired devices found" and I can't change channel.
Thanks
Awesome, it works! It's clunky, but I can see a few channels now. Really hope someone has a hack through a rooted approach.
Do you know if anyone are working to root the GA7900 or other GTV3?
deeluk said:
Awesome, it works! It's clunky, but I can see a few channels now. Really hope someone has a hack through a rooted approach.
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I've tried decompiling the VideoInputSetup apk to see if I could manually change anything in the part that keeps crashing, but I wasn't able to recompile it afterwards.
And I've tried everything else I can think of as a work around for those like me with LG's that can't even see the manual tuner in the input options, but to no avail ?
Correct, the manual function for the tuner is not available. I am writing to LG every week to get this done. know it is a lost of time ...
Your inquiry has been submitted for review and we are waiting for feedback so we can communicate it with you as soon as possible. We will also be including the observation you have suggested to improve future LG products. We assure you that these are being reviewed by LG management periodically and being utilized as valuable inputs for consideration in our products and services innovations.
Sorry, I can't help much than that
After a few calls with LG support, and asking for escalation, I learned that a converter box is the workaround. I have coaxial from cable provider. The converter box should have an hdmi output. Any suggestions on which product/model works well?
After accidentally rescanning for channels, I've bricked my TV for the broadcast channels. I've tried to use Teamviewer, Remodroid, but I can't find proper instructions to connect remotely to possibly fix the problem. The exploiteers website seems promising (www exploitee.rs) but not much information for my LG GA6450...
Anyone with update root instructions or ways to get Manual Tuner to work.? I've tried the manual tuner method but no channels are showing up.
I ran into this same issue and had several frustrating calls with LG support that went nowhere. I was lucky enough to stumble on some other suggestions and found a workaround. While not perfect, I can actually use the TV again. I hope this helps others in a similar situation. Follow the steps below and do not deviate (trust me I got really close to bricking my TV figuring this out):
From settings navigate to "Applications".
Scroll over to "All" and then down to find "Live TV" and open it.
Click on "Disable".
Exit back to settings and then to "Channels" (you'll see the options are now enabled).
Auto scan for channels (or if you've already done this manually tune to a channel).
Exit back to settings and back to "Applications".
Scroll over to "All" and then down to find "Live TV" and open it.
Click on "Enable".
Turn the TV off and then back on. (You'll notice you can change the channel, but after android has finished restarting it won't let you any longer).
To get around that, use the gesture button and click on the channel bar at the top to enable to guide below. You can now scroll up and down through channels, find the one you want and open to watch.
Note - If you press the "Home" button, you will no longer be able to get back to live TV. You will have to repeat the steps (on step 5, you can just manually tune). It's extremely frustrating that LG won't release an updated firmware to simply re-enable the tuner and I'm very disappointed with the way they have handled this situation (as well as how they interact with faithful customers).
Hello, everyone!
If you aren't an expert - that's okay. Everyone is welcome and you're free to ask questions.
Make sure to check the date this post was updated (I may forget to update the date in the title) which is located at the bottom of this post. If this post hasn't been updated in more than a month, contact me and I'll refresh everything.
Quick Introduction:
I'm new to the Yoga Book squad, and I've noticed one major downside.... the forums are a total mess. So what I'm hoping to do, is to keep this thread as up-to-date as possible, with links to guides, development progress and anything else.
I figure to make this more... tidy, I will enforce a colour-coding system for each sub-thread-guide-thingy, so you can instantly tell whether a guide or method to do something to your Yoga Book is risky, and most likely experimental, or is well tested. These will probably be done via experiments on my own Book (the wifi-only version), but of course I will hope via this community thread I will be able to provide more detailed statistics and such as everyone does their own thing to their device.
If you have anything to add to this thread, or would like to help out with anything; please feel free to contact me or just tell me what you're thinking - I'll do my best to read everyone's replies.
General Yoga Book Information
To my knowledge, there are two versions of the Yoga Book, each with two sub-versions for the OS:
1.) YB1-X9aF - this is the Wi-Fi version
2.) YB1-X9aL - this is the LTE/4G version
Where the "a" between the 9 and the F/L is either a zero or a one, depending on the installed OS (Android: 0, Windows 10: 1)
The SIM card is a Nano-SIM with 3G capability.
Other than that, all Yoga Book devices share the following specifications:
- 10.1 inch IPS display, of resolution 1920x1200
- Intel Atom x5-Z8550 processor, which:
----+ Has an architecture of x86_64
----+ Core base clock of 1.44 gigahertz
----+ Core boost clock of 2.4 gigahertz
----+ 4 cores and 4 threads
- Battery capacity of 8500 milliampere hours
- On-board storage of 64 gigabytes of solid-state storage (SSD)
- 4 gigabytes of random-access memory (RAM)
- A microSD card slot capable of up to 128 gigabytes of storage
- Two camera's, one above the display and one on the keyboard
- Wi-Fi (802.11 ac) and Bluetooth (v4)
- 3.5 millimetre headphone jack
- Micro-USB 2.0 OTG port
- Micro-HDMI port
Colour (or color) Codes and Tags:
For those who like using grey-scale display filters or whom are colour blind, I've added a "level" to each of them, where level 3 is like... crazy meltdown experimentation mode, and 1 is stable-ish (probably as stable as it'll get unless a REAL developer takes on the challenge).
[X] - Means that you will have to delete some or all of your data for it to work
[R] - Means that it requires a Rooted device
[Level 3] VERY EXPERIMENTAL - Use with caution, and with the knowledge that you may boot-loop, brick your device or lose your data!!! OR ALL OF THOSE THINGS!! Make sure to backup everything you hold dear, and just for good measure you'll have something to fallback on.
[Level 2] NOT WELL-TESTED - This will probably work for most people, but things may be unstable at the best of times. Again, make sure you have a backup before trying level 2 items.
[Level 1] 99% FINE - If there's an issue, it's probably your own fault... but again, I can't guarantee that everything I or anyone else does is perfect and will work for everyone! You should probably still have a backup, but if you're lazy like myself it's okay, I forgive you.
Android M/6.0
Rooting, backups, and more!
[1][X] Unlocking the Bootloader
earthCallingAngela wrote a really nice guide for unlocking the bootloader. The original thread is here, but for those who are too lazy to open the link in a new tab I've quoted the information.
IF YOU APPRECIATE THEIR EFFORTS GO AND THANK THEIR ORIGINAL POST!!!
Remember, unlocking your devices bootloader will format your storage (meaning you'll lose all of your data), so backup anything important before proceeding.
earthCallingAngela's OP: https://forum.xda-developers.com/yoga-book/how-to/how-to-unlock-bootloader-t3502216
I hope this is useful information. It took me a bit to figure it out due to a lot of conflicting information, since the procedure has changed, perhaps several times, since the first version of Android. Also, I'll probably forget myself.
Please note that I've performed these steps on Linux (Specifically Arch Linux). Others have pointed out that if you have issues executing step 7 from Windows, you may need to follow this post.
1. Install Android Studio, or otherwise obtain the latest versions of the adb and fastboot programs. I think Windows users also need to install a USB driver, but I run Linux, so I am not sure about that procedure.
2. Gain access to the developer options on the tablet. Go to the settings, and find the "about tablet" section. Scroll down to the "Software version" section and tap on that several times until it says that you are now a developer. Feel special.
3. Go to the new "Developer options" setting. Select "OEM unlocking." Also, I selected "USB debugging" as a straightforward way to reboot into the boot loader.
4. Connect to the computer on which you've installed adb and fastboot.
5. Type 'adb devices' to see your device listed. The tablet will ask you if you're sure you want to allow the computer access to it. Answer in the affirmative, and save that option.
6. Type 'adb reboot-bootloader' to do just that.
7. After you see the innards of your 'droid, type 'fastboot flashing unlock' . On Linux, you may need root permissions to do this. The tablet will ask you to confirm (select with up/down volume, and accept with the power button), and will then erase all of your data! I didn't worry about this as I'm all on Google services, and so they can be restored easily enough.
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[3] TWRP Custom Recovery
danjac has written a post about his attempt at getting a modified version of TWRP running on his Yoga Book. From what I can tell it was a success, besides a few bugs (which are avoidable... I think).
WARNING! MAKE SURE YOU READ THESE!!
Before you go ahead and just flash his version, make sure you know the consequences that could arise if something goes wrong. If the recovery of your device screws up, you don't really have much to bring it back to life with. Even though there shouldn't be many things to worry about, it's still very risky.
In fact, it is recommended you ONLY temporarily boot into TWRP, instead of just flashing it like you would on another device. danjac's OP gives more information for you to use.
If you think you are willing to take the risk and know what you're doing, I highly suggest you make a complete backup of your device if possible. So far there isn't really a way to get your stock recovery back (since we don't have a custom ROM or a way to download Lenovo's modified version online).
danjac's OP: https://forum.xda-developers.com/yoga-book/development/recovery-twrp-t3533980
[2] Rooting (via Magisk)
danjac wrote the first guide to rooting the Yoga Book, and you should, again, go and thank his original post. However, his OP is now a bit outdated, Magisk (currently v12.0) now includes a root module (MagiskSU) based on phh's SuperUser.
Please note: If you are already rooted via a different method (and maybe you want to change because it didn't work... or something like that) you have to go into your super-user manager and uninstall it. If you have a previous version of Magisk installed, there is an uninstall ZIP that you can flash, which will remove any Magisk version, including MagiskSU. Again, more details on the main Magisk thread.
Do I NEED to unlock my bootloader to Root my device?
The short answer is yes, and the long answer is sort-of. You only need to unlock your bootloader if your ROM doesn't support Rooting out-of-the-box (which in Lenovo's case, it isn't supported). However, you can lock your bootloader afterwards if it's such a concern to you. Yeah, you probably will stop receiving over-the-air updates from Lenovo, but they're probably not going to push out another update for a long while, so in my opinion it's nothing to worry about.
Follow the instructions on the main Magisk page to install it if you're new to Magisk, but if you know a thing or two then I'll paraphrase:
- Flash the latest Magisk ZIP file via the TWRP Recovery (if you have it) or just flash it over ADB
- You should also download the Magisk Manager from the Play Store to make sure you're always up-to-date
danjac's OT: https://forum.xda-developers.com/yoga-book/how-to/root-yb1-x90l-how-to-t3534268
Magisk's main thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/official-magisk-v7-universal-systemless-t3473445
[2] Dual-booting Android and Windows 10
Since there isn't a place to get the Android side of things, I won't put too much info here.
Although if you're already running the Android version and want to know how to put Windows 10 on your device too, look at this thread.
Dual-booting OT: https://forum.xda-developers.com/yoga-book/help/android-to-windows-hack-dual-boot-option-t3475733
[3][X] Custom ROM
Currently there is no custom ROM which supports the Yoga Book, mainly for the simple fact not many people own the device. However, if we make enough noise in the community I'm sure someone will crack under the pressure ;P
Although, I'm doing my best efforts to merge the device drivers and such into the Android Source code, but you shouldn't get your hopes up. If I ever get it working, it will probably be unstable and not that great (I don't have much experience with the details of the Android OS), I'm running off my knowledge of the Linux OS.
If you're using the Windows 10 version of the Yoga Book (I'm sorry you paid the extra $50!!), hopefully Lenovo will at least release a version of their own ROM soon (or put it back from what I've heard). I've also heard that they're upgrading to Nougat in October (of 2017)... so we've got plenty of time to find another solution to our sorrows.
Information for Developers:
Someone has also posted a backup of their working Lenovo-customised Android OS, but I won't post a link here because:
- It's only a backup
- May draw un-wanted attention to the link
But if you're a developer and you think that will help you, you can easily find it somewhere in these forums.
EDIT: The link has now been removed (I can't find it)
If you're trying to
Code:
repo sync
the AOSP and you're getting stuck syncing the work tree, try doing this (from the folder you're trying to sync to):
Code:
rm -rf frameworks/compile/slang/
mkdir /home/<user>/slang_helper
sudo ln -s /home/<user>/slang_helper frameworks/compile/slang
Please be careful when typing commands into your terminal, especially from the internet, and especially when you don't understand what the commands are doing.
Lenovo's source code download: http://pcsupport.lenovo.com/au/en/products/tablets/yoga-series/yoga-book/za0v/downloads
[2] Linux without removing Android
Thanks to @Tiggi2017 for making the first guide. His OT here is a good one to read through if you're interested in this.
Via a few apps and some commands, you're able to have a "Linux" OS running on your Android device with the Halo Keyboard and such still working perfectly.
His original method doesn't need Root access apparently. However, there are other methods that may be easier for some people if they have a Rooted device. Look through the comments in that thread for more information.
OT: https://forum.xda-developers.com/yoga-book/how-to/yoga-book-gnuroot-debian-t3580358
Apps, tips and tricks!
[1] Apps That Support Multi-Window
Thanks to sashlon1138 for doing most of the hard work by putting this list together (may not be complete, if you know of more apps that work let me know so I can add them!).
Thanks to uuang for getting the ball rolling.
Thanks to Csilla4 for finding the first calculator app that works.
Thanks to docoli for also finding a huge list of compatible apps.
Csilla4:
- iDo Calculator
uuang:
- RAR
- Google Photos
sashlon1138:
- Chrome (but not beta)
- Facebook
- Messenger (Facebook)
- Gmail
- Outlook
- Youtube
- VLC
- Google Search
- Home
- Instagram
- Pinterest
- Dolphin Browser
- Ebay
- Paypal
- Flow Free
- Google Maps
- Google Earth
- OneNote
- Wikipedia
- ES File Manager
- Twitter
- Evernote
- Reddit
- Skype
- Candy Crush Saga
- Candy Crush Soda
- Candy Crush Jelly
- Spotify
- Soundcloud
- Opera
- Opera Mini
- Yahoo Mail
- Viber Messenger
- MX Player
- Google Translate
- Shazam
- AliExpress
- Tumblr
- Twitch
- Mega
docoli:
- Microsoft Word, Excel and Powerpoint
- Softmaker Textmaker HD, Planmaker HD and Presentations HD
- RealCalc
- Adobe Acrobat
- CamScanner
- MindjetMaps
- LinkedIn
- ezPDF Reader
- Detexify
- HERE WeGo
- Google Street View
- Öffi (German Public Transportation Schedule app)
- DB Navigator (German Railroad Schedule app)
- Kindle
- Amazon Prime Video
- Maxdome
- Barnes & Noble Nook
- Audible
- TuneIn Radio
- TED
- Babbel
- dict.cc. plus
- Amazon
- Nine (you can even have any number of items in parallel on the screen, e.g., inbox, calender, contacts, notes)
- OneDrive
Link to OT: https://forum.xda-developers.com/yoga-book/help/multi-window-apps-t3565253/post71494066#post71494066
[2] Changing the DPI
WARNING! Do not change your DPI to extreme values! You may render your device useless (unless you already have set up ADB and know how to revert the changes)!
Thanks to melando for bringing up the actual default DPI values.
Just so you are aware, if you're running Android 7 (Nougat) or later, you can adjust the "DPI" to some preset values from the settings app.
Using this site, I calculated that the Yoga Book has a technical DPI of 224 pixels per inch, with a resolution of 1920 by 1200 pixels, over a 10.1" screen (diagonal). However, the default Lenovo has set it to may be actually 280. They suggest that you may find it better if the DPI is set to 240.
This is a trivial modification if your device is Rooted. All you have to do is open the Play Store, and search for something along the lines of "DPI changer", and find an app that has good reviews.
An example app would be "Easy DPI Changer [Root]"
If your device does not have Root, then you will have to have a computer with ADB installed.
To install ADB, do a quick Google. There's bound to be a guide there somewhere (I'll put one here soon).
Once you have ADB installed, you can follow this easy guide to change your DPI to whatever you like.
DPI Calculator: http://dpi.lv/
Non-Root Method: http://www.androidbeat.com/2015/07/how-to-change-dpi-of-android-device-without-root/
[1] Recommended Apps...?
There isn't anything here as of yet, because I haven't gotten far enough to look for any good apps that work well with the Yoga Book. So right now I'm going to rely on everyone else for that. I'll get there eventually.
However, you should at least download Magisk Manager from the Play Store, to manage your Root and other neato Magisk features.
If you're a developer, and need guinea pigs to test your stuff on, I am happy to help anyway I can (and I'm sure much of the community is too).
If anyone needs help, I'll do my best to assist, but if it's anything too tedious (such as teaching you how TWRP works or something along those lines), you should probably have a look on the internet for tutorials and guides for that stuff. There are plenty of people out there who can explain concepts better than myself.
Windows 10
Simple customisations!
[1] Touch-pad Customiser
This program was first put into the spotlight by dinosauria123, so go to their original post and thank them for finding this.
This small program lets you modify some simple variables associated with your touch pad, only requiring a reboot after you change something.
Features:
- Setting extended right click area
- Setting unlock area
- Setting mouse pointer acceleration
- Setting scroll direction
- Disable Touchpad clicking (added in version 1.4)
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OT: https://forum.xda-developers.com/yoga-book/themes/yoga-book-touch-pad-setting-application-t3569836
[1] Minor Halo KB Customisations
If you were wondering if there was a simple and easy way to lower the brightness of the Halo Keyboard, or just get rid of those pesky battery-draining touch vibrations for every key press, there is a way!!
Best of all, you don't have to download it! It's already installed!!
To find this not-so-well-hidden app, you have to either go to your Program Files, or open the good-old Control Panel (thanks to urayandro for pointing out that it's in the Control Panel!).
Control Panel method: Once you're in the Control Panel, just click on "Appearance and Personalisation", and you will find the "Halo Keyboard" program right at the bottom.
Program Files method: For 99.9% of people this is on your Local Drive (C: ). It may be located in your normal Program Files or it may be in your x86 Program Files, I'm assuming it depends on whether you're using the Windows 10 your device originally came with, or you have re-installed it (thanks to sawyerbenjamin for informing me that for them, it was in the normal Program Files folder). Assuming it's in your normal program files; go to Program Files/Lenovo/ and there it is. The application name is "ControlApp.exe". You can also make a shortcut to this application - I put a shortcut on my Desktop.
It allows you to:
- Toggle the touch tone/sound
- Toggle the vibration on keypress
- Adjust the time it takes for the keyboard lights to turn off
- Adjust the backlight (or whatever that is called) brightness for the whole keyboard
Risky or experimental customisations!
[2] Using AMIDuOS (Android Emu)
Update: I've spent a bit of time trying to use this, and in my opinion it's not worth the time. But if you need a development environment for something, it's pretty good at that. :/
In my attempt at replacing my Windows 10 installation with any version of Android I could find, I ran across this program called AMIDuOS. It's similar to emulating an Android system while you're in Windows, but instead of running it in a virtual environment, it runs directly on your x86 hardware (which is what the Yoga Book uses).
If you're cool with having a Windows 10 version of the Yoga Book, but still want to use some Android applications (possibly for drawing, or maybe just because the Android ecosystem is miles better compared to the Windows one) this may be a good solution for you.
Currently, they support Lollipop and Jellybean (not Marshmallow). However, this program is not free. You can trial it for free though. I'm fairly certain the full price is $10 USD.
It's not a difficult thing to set up (apparently), so if you wanna try something out and know how to deal with possible emulation problems (although unlikely) it may be worth it.
AMIDuOS Website: http://www.amiduos.com/
[2] Process Lasso
Huh? Process what-now? Yep, Process Lasso is a very complex program filled to the brim with algorithms tailored mainly towards getting the best performance and responsiveness, and to control those pesky rogue background processes that slow down your device when you don't need them to.
This program is completely free (but it does have a Pro version if you want a few extra customisation's and want to support the developers) and I've found it works pretty well, especially with a low-power device like the Yoga Book.
Since the Yoga Book is meant to be a very portable device, I'm not using Process Lasso to get maximum performance (as that would obviously drain the battery life quickly), I'm using it to make sure that if there's a program that needs to use power and deplete my battery life, then it's something I want - not some dodgy Windows background processes or other stuff like that.
It's pretty easy to set up. I've got a few of the main features enabled, and I recommend that you use similar settings.
I've enabled:
- ProBalance; this will keep the background processes in check, and allow the foreground processes to take the reigns of your CPU, insuring you experience minimal stutters.
- SmartTrim; this is an optional one, since I'm constantly micro-managing the applications I've got installed on my 64GB internal drive, this should help to prolong the performance of my drive, making sure it's well pruned (that's a pretty good analogy actually)
I've turned off the tray-icon showing me the CPU utilisation, so that doesn't need to waste any of my precious battery life (I'm usually a battery-life extremest), but you don't need to do that.
So if you're experiencing major delays when just doing simple things like moving around the Windows 10 user interface due to rogue background processes, I highly recommend you give this program a try.
Also, if you're a pro-ish-user like myself, feel free to dive deeper into the program. It's filled with toggles and adjustable's for you to play with and tailor the program to your needs, and almost everything you can change is accompanied with a tool-tip explaining what it does. Enjoy! But of course, as always, be careful of what you change - there are some things that could make your system really slow and or unstable.
P.S. The Yoga Book uses the 64-bit system, so choose that version of the program.
Website: https://bitsum.com/
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Does anybody know, whether bootloader unlocking is necessary for magisk root?
Con_Sole said:
Does anybody know, whether bootloader unlocking is necessary for magisk root?
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I'm not entirely sure, however flashing something to your device (via TWRP at least) does require an unlocked bootloader. So without an unlocked bootloader, I don't think there's a way to install MagiskSU. Sorry about that... :/
I will have a look around and see what I can find, though.
Con_Sole said:
Does anybody know, whether bootloader unlocking is necessary for magisk root?
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So I've done more looking around and here is your answer: Yyyyeeeeaaaahhhhhh......?
Magisk itself does not require an unlocked bootloader, however, it does require root access. Usually to get root access you need to unlock your bootloader, unless it comes already rooted in a custom ROM (but in our case, it doesn't). Unlocking the bootloader is a relatively safe procedure to perform, so [in my opinion] you shouldn't have anything to worry about!
nan0s7 said:
[1] Minor Halo KB Customisations
If you were wondering if there was a simple and easy way to lower the brightness of the Halo Keyboard, or just get rid of those pesky battery-draining touch vibrations for every key press, there is a way!!
Best of all, you don't have to download it! It's already installed!!
To find this not-so-well-hidden app, you have to go to your Program Files. For 99.9% of people this is on your Local Drive (C. So to get to it, go to Program Files (x86)/Lenovo/ and there it is. Its very helpful and informative name is ControlApp.exe.
It allows you to:
- Toggle the touch tone/sound
- Toggle the vibration on keypress
- Adjust the time it takes for the keyboard lights to turn off
- Adjust the backlight (or whatever that is called) brightness for the whole keyboard
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it's not not-so-well-hidden app.... it's not hidden at all. you can found it under "appearance and personalization" section of retro control panel.
urayandro said:
it's not not-so-well-hidden app.... it's not hidden at all. you can found it under "appearance and personalization" section of retro control panel.
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Indeed it is! Consider that noted ;P
urayandro said:
it's not not-so-well-hidden app.... it's not hidden at all. you can found it under "appearance and personalization" section of retro control panel.
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I found it in my normal Program Files folder. (x86) only contained a folder for LenovoPaper.
sawyerbenjamin said:
I found it in my normal Program Files folder. (x86) only contained a folder for LenovoPaper.
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Huh, well it must depend on whether you kept the original installation of Windows that came on the device, or whether you reinstalled it (or came from Android). I'll add that information. Thanks!
sawyerbenjamin said:
I found it in my normal Program Files folder. (x86) only contained a folder for LenovoPaper.
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Same here. In my device is also only contain LenovoPaper under \Program Files (x86)\LenovoPaper
What i mean with retro control panel is old window's control panel. not the win10 setting. You can access it by:
1. Click start and type "control panel" then press enter.
2. You should see control panel window that similar to older version of windows.
3. Go to "Appearance and Personalization
4. Under there you should see "HaloKeyboard" shortcut.
You can also create another shortcut of this app by right-clicking it then choose create shortcut. Windows will make another shortcut on the desktop. I did this to get easier access when need to adjust keyboard brightness.
Hey there,
i think there is a way to flash the win 10 image on my yb1-x90f. just don't wont to brick it and so i have a few questions to all of you experts. in other words, i need your help
there is a quide i found in internet, which i think could work. But there are words i've never read before like "RUSB". is this an important word? i attached as low quality pdf...
there is also the win 10 image online. but we have to pay for it because it's "exclusive" stuff. 50$
maybe we can put together, 50/50 so its 25$ for me and you?
i think you know which page is meant. if not pm me
like descriped in the guide, (part 3) we have to select "Boot Menu" and after that "EFI USB Device"
But my bootloader looks different (android version).
is there a way to flash the image via original android bootloader/recovery or do we need to find a way to get into the other bootloader?
in this post: https://forum.xda-developers.com/yoga-book/help/bricked-yoga-book-yb1-x90l-t3537048
@mmusaad managed to get into this kind of "mode" but i think its a dangerous way and he had a big luck to "unbrick" his device. maybe onyone find an easy way to go into this "windows bootloader" or whatever?
so maybe we can work togehter
woodirk said:
there is also the win 10 image online. but we have to pay for it because it's "exclusive" stuff. 50$
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Probably wrong translation from Chinese... Should read USB-R. There are USB Ports which don't support remote drives
woodirk said:
there is also the win 10 image online. but we have to pay for it because it's "exclusive" stuff. 50$
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Windows was never free, that's why the Windows Yoga Book is $50 more expensive. A Win-Image will not help you either, as Lenovo brands the Product Key into the Bios.
jamespmi said:
Windows was never free, that's why the Windows Yoga Book is $50 more expensive. A Win-Image will not help you either, as Lenovo brands the Product Key into the Bios.
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OMG sometimes i think "together" :highfive: is a heavy word... :crying:
what about this ? (see attachement)
and stop letting me look like an idiot...
I'm on the YB1-X91F, which is the Windows version. Unfortunately for us, the Android and Windows versions of the Yoga Book have totally different BIOS's. This is the main thing stopping us from being able to dual-boot.
Easy-firmware has both the Android and Windows' ROM's, but they only provide instructions on how to overwrite the current operating system, not the opposite ones. I have downloaded everything they have on the Android side of things, and everything except the Windows ROM on the Windows side.
While I was messing around with my device, I did brick it. But I was able to get an SD-card with a Windows bootable "USB" install on it, and went through the installation process on my external keyboard. Then from there was able to install the drivers and restore the Windows version with everything working after a bit of time. I don't know how different this would be if you don't mind getting rid of the Android bootloader totally, but that's not really recommended.
What we'd need for getting Android alongside the Windows version is a way to get a working Fastboot/ADB connection.
For the Android version getting Windows alongside it, you need a way to get the Android bootloader to point to and recognise the Windows installation. However, this is almost impossible unless you have a custom ROM, which we do not have that supports the Yoga Book. You could probably delete Android totally, and then install Windows from there, but I'm not 100% sure because I haven't messed around with the Android version of the tablet.
We'd need a way to get the Android BIOS and Fastboot off of it so we can then use it to our advantage.
nan0s7 said:
I have downloaded everything they have on the Android side of things, and everything except the Windows ROM on the Windows side.
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that's good to know...
nan0s7 said:
You could probably delete Android totally, and then install Windows from there, but I'm not 100% sure because I haven't messed around with the Android version of the tablet.
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this is exactly what i want to do and where i need your help
imo this will help us https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=70540959&postcount=7
woodirk said:
what about this ? (see attachement)
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That probably flashes a valid Serial Number into the Bios...
DPI settings
I believe default DPI may actually be 280 - there's a Lenovo forum thread recommending setting it to 240 which I have found reduces the size of icons etc. so 224 does not seem right
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I believe default DPI may actually be 280 - there's a Lenovo forum thread recommending setting it to 240 which I have found reduces the size of icons etc. so 224 does not seem right
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Thanks for the information! I've added a bit to the DPI section about the other values.
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Thanks for the information! I've added a bit to the DPI section about the other values.
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However now that the Nougat update is out some adjustments can be made in Display Settings...
melando said:
However now that the Nougat update is out some adjustments can be made in Display Settings...
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Oh yeah forgot that happened (I'm on the Windows version). Fixed it now!
If anyone is still (trying) to use daydream on normal devices, I'm going to share my experiences with getting it to "work" in a redmi note 4 (sd625 variant), along some other problems I do still face.
First of all, you need to know that daydream is designed to have always reprojection on, if you don't know what that is, take a look at this. This means that unless you have an oled display, with their inherit characteristics (low persistence), or an lcd that's capable of doing 90hz or more, you're going to experience a lot of motion blur with fast head movements or circular movements. That's not a bug, it's how it's supposed to work, that's why if you go check the list of official compatible daydream phones all have oled displays. The benefit of that blur is the buttery smooth head tracking, use it for 5 min, and you won't be able go back.
Once you have prepared your stomach for the ride;
1st: You need a rooted device (easiest method is flashing with a custom recovery the latest magisk version). You might be able to avoid rooting if somehow you manage to modify the files in the next steps, but at least for me, to access those files I needed root permissions.
2nd: Go to the play store and just search for daydream (do not install it), if you're able to see the app, you could jump to the next step. If you don't, download a file explorer with root capabilities (I personally like fx explorer) and paste the "android.hardware.vr.high_performance" file attached to the following route;
Code:
/system/vendor/etc/permissions
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In this same folder you'll find the handheld_core_hardware that's mentioned in other guides, you might be also capable of getting it working by editing handheld_core_hardware, just like the old tutorial said
3rd: In order to get most of the daydream apps to render in SBS mode or even open, you need to spoof the id of your device to one of the certified ones. This is exactly the same step contained in the tutorial above, but at least in my case, once I opened the build.prop in the /System folder, I didn't saw a "ro.product.device", but a "ro.product.system.device". What I did was modify the latter by changing "mido" (the name of my device) to "walleye" (pixel 2) and adding a new line with "ro.product.device=walleye"
4th: Restart your phone and install Daydream, google vr services, and daydream keyboard all three from version 1.13. Daydream
Google vr services
Daydream keyboard
This version, along with 1.14 are the last ones that at least in my phone don't distort the aspect ratio, making it all squezzed. Version 1.14 has some handy implementations but worse performance and the lack of a developer option that I find really interesting for our unsupported phones that I will mention later.
5th: Now that's all installed, open the app and it will tell you that it need some permisions to work, press cancel and it will exit itself. go press it again and this time you'll see the daydream menu, swipe to the right to open the side menu, go to settings, VR settings, and if you don't have developer options, press compilation version several times to make them appear. Once you're inside those developer options, check the "skip VR entry screens". This is essential for all of us that don't have nfc, otherwise we wouldn't be able to run any app.
6th: Go to to visor and select your daydream version, bare in mind that if want to use a controller, you'll need to chose between gen1 and gen2, as cardboard custom profiles gray out the controller.
7th: Go to the controller tab and press and new controller, you'll be asked to fix the permissions, by enabling bluetooth, gps, and location you should be good to go, but considering we are using google play and google already knows all about us, I would say go ahead and try go give all permissions, just in case some specific app requires them.
Now follow the tutorial and the controller should pair... or maybe not. This is one of the problems that I don't know how to fix. The controller appears to be paired, as the light no longer blinks, but the daydream app doesn't detect it. At least for me, I couldn't get it to work in android 7 or 9, android 8 I (think?) I managed to get it working, and all android 10 roms I tried worked fine. I suspect it has something to do with the bluetooth settings, as it's a low energy device.
8th: You're good to go. Depending on your display and calibration, you might want to download an app called sa2ration that allows you to boost the intensity to get a more vivid image, I personally use 1.25 and it works wonderfully. Bare in mind that this works system wide, you could toggle it on and off whenever you want, and the settings don't reset with phone restarts.
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Now that everything is "working", If you want to avoid the blur, and the app you're going to use is capable of holding a steady 60fps, you could go to developer setttings, and tick the "Force undistorted rendering". This will supress most of the motion blur at the cost of smoothness. This for me also reveals another problem, the resolution/dpi settings, as the image "bleeds" outside the supposed rendering area.
@Retrete: THX for your hints.
Any xiaomi/redmi or oppo/realms device you can recommend? Is the experience as good as on official daydream phones?
I remember that on my axon7 the amoled needs to be switched to low persistence mode via fw command.
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[/COLOR @Retrete: THX for your hints.
Any xiaomi/redmi or oppo/realms device you can recommend? Is the experience as good as on official daydream phones?
I remember that on my axon7 the amoled needs to be switched to low persistence mode via fw command.
hmn, i cant get to edit neither the build.prop nor the folder where i have to paste the vr file. I have magisk root, OnePlus 5T Android 10 OxygenOS 10.0.0