Data is dead after removing and reinserting sim. Help? - Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have been running custom roms on my droid since the root explot was first discovered, and I have a rooted xoom as well. Last night I rooted my thunderbolt and installed the debloated rom. I don't think it is even related to my problem, as it still worked fine after doing this, but I thought it was worth mentioning. I removed the sim card today, just to prove to my brother that it did indeed have a sim, and after reinsertation, my thunderbolt has not been able to connect to a data network. I do not live in a 4g area, and I have tried reseating the sim several times. I can make phone calls, wifi works fine, but I cannot get the 3g icon, and the browser won't load if not on wifi.. I'm starting to get scared. I can't think of anything else to try. Any suggestions?
EDIT 1: I have intermittent 1x data, but I never get 3g. And when I say intermittent, I mean I get it like right after a call for maybe a minute, then it goes away.
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I had this same issue as well when I removed and reinserted my SIM card. When I booted back up I was stuck on 1xRTT. After making a call, they phone locked back on to LTE and everything was good after that. If it still isn't working I would recommend giving Verizon a call. They may be able to reactivate it. I did notice that the problem persisted even though I flashed a couple different roms on the device. I'm thinking it probably isn't a great idea to remove and insert the SIM if you don't have to.

Just an update,
I spent 2.5 hours at the effing verizon store today after spending an hour on the phone. Even after all that time, and giving me a new SIM, they STILL couldn't get my TB to connect to 3g. They said that it might magically start working at midnight for no particular reason, but had no clue what to do (I was actually at a corporate store btw) If it doesnt start working tonight, I am going back tomorrow. I have no idea what the hell is up. I am very tech savvy, and this is just insane. It must be a verizon problem in my area that it wont let the phone reactivate for the 3g/4g

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Serious Data Problem

So long story short, I opened a new line and swapped my hardware to the new line for the TB on my line. After I left BB, I called Verizon to do the swap. They said they couldn't because my SIM card was programmed for the original line and I had to go back to a VZW to get a new provisioned SIM, which I did. It worked when I left, but since late last night, I have no 4G or 3G. Any ideas what the issue could be?
Oh and when the phone goes into sleep mode and I awaken it, the 4G is lit up and then shortly after, no data.
Breakthecycle2 said:
Oh and when the phone goes into sleep mode and I awaken it, the 4G is lit up and then shortly after, no data.
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when i first got my phone, the original 4g card wasnt working. turns out is was just bad... they swapped it for a new one and all is well. so i'm assuming u've already tried to reboot and see if that helps. maybe that card is bad as well? hmmm....u should go back to see if they can swap out to another one.
When I was in the store getting mine they were talking about how they'd been having allot of issues activating phone because of the large demand was causing a backup in the switch. There was a guy that walked in about 5 min before me and his would not activate, but then mine activated perfectly. So I guess it was intermittent. Makes me wonder if you got caught up in that backup when you activated the second sim.
-Gilgamesh- said:
When I was in the store getting mine they were talking about how they'd been having allot of issues activating phone because of the large demand was causing a backup in the switch. There was a guy that walked in about 5 min before me and his would not activate, but then mine activated perfectly. So I guess it was intermittent. Makes me wonder if you got caught up in that backup when you activated the second sim.
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Should I go back?
I would do a battery pull (pretty sure you've already done that) and remove and reseat the sim as well (if you haven't already) and if that doesn't work I'd reach out to Cust Service. May be something easily fixable in the system, save ya the time and gas of driving to the store.
maybe try a *228 and press 1 to program .... just a thought, I hate having to deal with customer service
I could be wrong but I thought *228 did not work with these phones because of the sim card.
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orcsbane13 said:
I could be wrong but I thought *228 did not work with these phones because of the sim card.
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I'd assume there is some good system in place for phones ordered online and what not.
How did anyone who ordered their phone online activate?
-Gilgamesh- said:
I would do a battery pull (pretty sure you've already done that) and remove and reseat the sim as well (if you haven't already) and if that doesn't work I'd reach out to Cust Service. May be something easily fixable in the system, save ya the time and gas of driving to the store.
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My 4g would drop off randomly and I just assumed it was my area's LTE working out it's kinks. Then after doing the manual 3g only switch, the data was still randomly dropping off, so I was up to try anything out.
I pulled the battery and reseat the Sim like you said and so far so good...mind explaining that?, lol, doesnt make sense to me.
thanks in advance
Geegolly said:
My 4g would drop off randomly and I just assumed it was my area's LTE working out it's kinks. Then after doing the manual 3g only switch, the data was still randomly dropping off, so I was up to try anything out.
I pulled the battery and reseat the Sim like you said and so far so good...mind explaining that?, lol, doesnt make sense to me.
thanks in advance
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Improperly seated SIM card? Corrupted memory that a battery pull resets? Good Karma?
-Gilgamesh- said:
When I was in the store getting mine they were talking about how they'd been having allot of issues activating phone because of the large demand was causing a backup in the switch. There was a guy that walked in about 5 min before me and his would not activate, but then mine activated perfectly. So I guess it was intermittent. Makes me wonder if you got caught up in that backup when you activated the second sim.
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Wow, exact same experience I had yesterday. I went in late, like 5:00 PM. I had to wait a while for someone to actually help me, but once I said what phone I wanted it wasn't more than 20 minutes to get the transaction done.
Do NOT do *228.
I had this same problem today when activating my phone. Just call Verizon and they will walk you through getting it activated correctly.
Ironically, on my way to VZW it suddenly started working. LOL. "clog" in the system? I don't know, but it's fast as hell!
I don't have 4G in my area yet but I got the TB anyway. I love it. But the 3G does the same thing, just keeps dropping out.
This keeps happening to me also. Its very Frustrating. What the number to VZW Customer Service?
hotdawwgman said:
This keeps happening to me also. Its very Frustrating. What the number to VZW Customer Service?
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Nevermind lol
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Just so you know, *228 & *22899 do not work on the tbolt due to sim card. You cannot activate or update that way..
Jrocker23 said:
Just so you know, *228 & *22899 do not work on the tbolt due to sim card. You cannot activate or update that way..
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doesnt it still update the other radio? not everything uses lte.
No need for *228 because the sim card now is provisioned with auto PRL for when the phone does enter 3G service
DO NOT EVER ESN SWAP THE PHONE TO A NON 4G
Just like mentioned initially, the sim card and phone are designed for 4G lines only so swapping back to your old 3G device or onto another line is a bad idea.
If your trying to do an alternative upgrade and the store your at is full of morons, ask them if they could possibly do a Customer Provided Equipment Upgrade and then then ring out the phone in their point of sale system with the contract you have signed.
Until VZ Corporate figures out another way to do alternative upgrades, this is the only method I have found to get around this
Yes in many cases (including me) we have found it to take a while for 3G or 4G to stay on. Give it time. dial #832 to prove your phone can make calls and receive text messages. anywhere from 10 to some cases an hour before the phone is in full lock.
If your still having a problem go out for a walk or drive, heard switching between towers can help push the process.
I had the exact same problem as the OP, to fix it Verizon made me go back to best buy, you have to get the phone exchanged for a new one and then they have to call in to setup the new untouched TB on the line you want it on. Believe me it took 3 hours for them to finally fix it, and that's what did it.
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[Q] VZW 4G SIM card not recognized on boot

Rebooted my TBolt and when it started up it popped a big lock screen message about the SIM card not being recognized. Phone booted up rest of the way anyways, but kept popping that warning occasionally.
Rebooted again and it seems to have gone away.
Just curious if this is just a fluke or the sign of something worse to come.
Any one else seen this behavior?
Keep in mind, this is a VZW 4G sim that they installed 10 weeks ago and never had any problems with...no attempt to do anything like use some 3G AT&T SIM, etc, etc.
I noticed this behavior for the first time today, right after I rebooted as well. I immediately tried calling my Google Voice number (didn't want to try calling a friend) and it went through, so I'm not sure if the error message is valid or not.
considering this phone has some of the same insides as the hd7, that does not suprise me.
I get the error occasionally of no sim on my hd7 and reboot always makes it go away. Happened maybe 4-5 times since November.
Thanks for the replies. Only three one time so far, so probably nothing to worry about based on both your experiences.
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Have you reactivated a 3g phone on your account? This voids the 4g sim.
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[Q] GSM Call/Text issues

Hey, I posted this over at AVForums and didnt get a response and thought that you guys over here are probablt better informed. Below is a quote of the thread I started:
Well to start off, i'll tell you I am on the one plan with 3 and have a brand new sim free htc evo 3d.
Ive had the phone for about 2 weeks and it has worked perfectly ever since I got it. About 4 days ago, I noticed that texts were taking hours to come through. I then noticed that calls were never coming through and going straight to voicemail. Called 3, they blamed the phone but made sure call diverts were off anyway.
Calls were still going straight to voicemail but occasionally when phoning my number, I would get the dial tone but my phone wasnt ringing. I then put my misus t-mobile sim into my phone but I was getting the exact same problem, no calls were coming through. Couldnt put my sim into my misus phone as its sim locked.
I called 3 again, they said it must be the phone. I phone Amazon, they say phone HTC. HTC couldnt help so Amazon agreed to replace the phone. I now have old and new phone in possession. Using my old phone earlier today, I could no longer send text messages but I could receive them ok. The occasional call was coming through but most werent.
Ive now just set up the replacement phone. Everything was working fine for the first 5 minutes but now I cant send texts and calls arent coming through again.
Logically thinking, it surely cant be the phone and must be the sim card, but then again, my misus t-mobile sim showed the same problems in my phone which suggests it is the phone!
Im obviously going to phone 3 tomorrow but I want to be prepared for my argument. If it does end up being the sim, how can I explain to Amazon that I have opened the replacement phone but now need to send it back because there was nothing wrong with my phone in the first place. Surely they would be entitled to charge me or something for doing that?
Hope it all makes sense and I look forward to your responses!
EDIT: Forgot to mention that data is working fine. my 3g connection did drop at work the other day for no apparent reason, but calls and texts were working fine during this period, I guess its more when connected to 3g. There is no gsm only mode to test the phone either!
EDIT 2: Sometimes when calling my phone, I get the dial tone but my phone doesnt ring. However when the screen is on and the phone is out of standby, my phone receives calls fine! It does sometimes goes straight to voicemail but its just so confusing! I just did a test there, phone in standby, called it from my landline. I get the dial tone, but the phone doesnt ring. Whilst im still calling it, I wake my phone and it starts ringing! What the hell is going on!!!
Just a quick update and really hoping someone can offer some input!
I am at work just now, about 5 miles from my home address. So far today, my phone has been working fine at work. I visted the 3 store just round the corner from here, told him my story and he sadi it must be the handset due to the same issue with a t-mobile sim. I did mention the 3/t-mobile network sharing agreement and how they could be connecting to the same masts but he was adamant that no such thing exists. He also argued that the auction for the old analogue spectrum was for additional 3g capacity and not 4g. I did argue with him but he was clueless!
Anyways.... My phone worked fine in the shop so he said test with another sim card and if the problem persists, they would change the sim card. Ive came back to work and again, everything works well. I tried a vodafone sim card and again, all is ok!
When I think about it, my phone has pretty much worked fine when at work apart from not being able to connect to 3g the other day. This leads we to believe that there was be something wrong with my local mast at home, but if this was the case, why has it not been widely reported? Then again, the T-Mobile sim didnt work in my phone when at home, but worked fine in my misus htc desire. I have noticed that she is connected to 't-mobile orange' for 3g when its usually just 't-mobile'. Is it that her phone recognises a problem so switches to an orange mast?
This is doing my head in!
Thanks
EDIT: Sorry for posting in the wrong thread, I did wonder if I goty it right but clearly I didnt!
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Internets keep cutting out

I had this problem running miui, cm7, and now I'm on unnammed. I've used all the modems and still nothing helps. I thought unnammed didn't have this problem? To fix it I haft to flip to airplane mode and back, then its fixed.
Sorry if this has been asked. I'm on taptalk on my phone and I don't know how to search with it
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Could be APN settings. I don't know them off hand, but they are listed in post 2 of the miui thread.
If it happens on multiple ROMs it could also be a bad SIM card. Does it do it on pure stock? If so, try a new SIM card.
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ok, thanks. ill look them up. this issue is making me want to switch back to my iphone, but hopefully this will fix it cause i like android, just this is getting old
Are you talking about wifi or 3g?
Are you using any battery saving apps like Juice Defender?
ZeroIsntTheHero said:
Are you using any battery saving apps like Juice Defender?
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This. I haven't seen this issue reported often, and in the past, it's turned out to be an app interfering with the connection. If not, it's likely an apn issue.
randrewm97 said:
I had this problem running miui, cm7, and now I'm on unnammed. I've used all the modems and still nothing helps. I thought unnammed didn't have this problem? To fix it I haft to flip to airplane mode and back, then its fixed.
Sorry if this has been asked. I'm on taptalk on my phone and I don't know how to search with it
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I've had the same thing happen to me on other AOSP roms too. On both the SGS2 and my captivate.
I just switched to iscrewed to see if the prob is still there. Its hard to reproduce the bug, but it happens when i go from either:
1. being connected to wifi for a long time and then leaving that area, mobile data doesnt turn back on
2. being in a bad service area for a long time, and then leaving it, mobile data doesnt turn back on.
The worst thing about it is i use google voice for texts, and thats usually how i can tell that it cut out, because i stop getting texts from people.
I love android and google, but honestly if problems like this dont get ironed out, then as long as the next iphone has a decent size screen im probably switching over.
FYI this has occurred when i had the bare minimum installed on my phone, and i never use any ridiculous battery saving apps.
lourivellini said:
I've had the same thing happen to me on other AOSP roms too. On both the SGS2 and my captivate.
I just switched to iscrewed to see if the prob is still there. Its hard to reproduce the bug, but it happens when i go from either:
1. being connected to wifi for a long time and then leaving that area, mobile data doesnt turn back on
2. being in a bad service area for a long time, and then leaving it, mobile data doesnt turn back on.
The worst thing about it is i use google voice for texts, and thats usually how i can tell that it cut out, because i stop getting texts from people.
I love android and google, but honestly if problems like this dont get ironed out, then as long as the next iphone has a decent size screen im probably switching over.
FYI this has occurred when i had the bare minimum installed on my phone, and i never use any ridiculous battery saving apps.
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Have you tried a new SIM card? My problem was similar, and followed me from one phone to another as you describe. New SIM card fixed it right away.
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quarlow said:
Have you tried a new SIM card? My problem was similar, and followed me from one phone to another as you describe. New SIM card fixed it right away.
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Wow, i didn't even consider that.
I will be trying and will report back. If this fixes it i will owe you my life!
I might have to switch back to cm7 just to name sure it's the Sim card that's causing it.
quarlow said:
Have you tried a new SIM card? My problem was similar, and followed me from one phone to another as you describe. New SIM card fixed it right away.
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ill try this out tomorrow. just now when checking my email i had to turn on airplane mode and back off to get data to work.
also, i tried the apn settings on the first page of the miui thread and it didnt work. i tried those settings on miui, wiui, cm7, and unnammed but they all made it so that my internet didnt work at all.
so just to clarify, i shouldnt haft to change apn settings and my phone shouldnt be doing this on non stck roms, right? sim is likely the problem? this has gotten really old really quick and its embarrassing when im trying to show my friends something but my phone isnt working.
Your phone should work fine on any ROM you find here. Mine does. I never have to play with APNs, even on miui. I never have to play with airplane mode or power cycle. But, when my SIM was bad I would drop data connectivity all the time. Calls would fail (outbound only), and other glitchy reception issues. Sometimes airplane mode fixed it, sometimes power cycle, sometimes airplane mode on, power cycle, and all times it was temporary. Its worth a try, shouldn't cost anything to get a new SIM. If they give you trouble at the store just tell them you called 611 and they told you to go in for a new one. If that doesn't fix it go warranty route for a new phone.
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randrewm97 said:
also, i tried the apn settings on the first page of the miui thread and it didnt work. i tried those settings on miui, wiui, cm7, and unnammed but they all made it so that my internet didnt work at all.
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Those APN settings have worked fine for me on both CM7 and every Sammy ROM I've used. I always have (unrelated) problems with MIUI, so I can't verify that one.
So i went today and got a new SIM. Its been about 9 hours, but no problems yet. Time will tell if it works, but im willing to bet that was the problem, and this is why.
When i went to get my sim, the guy there told me that when ATT started rolling out 4g phones (which includes 3.5g) many employees had trouble with their data switching on and off until they switched their sim cards.
Then i started thinking to myself - I've had the problem about as long as I had my SGS2, and only had the problem with AOSP roms on my captivate - then i made the connection.
When i used a stock, or stock based rom on my captivate, i had no problems. The second i used an international ROM, or an AOSP rom is when i would have the issues. What is the difference between the roms............. The ATT rom doesnt have hspa+ enabled, so using my old "3g" sim card i was fine. No 3.5g to connect to to cause problems. CM and international Roms would use that new 3.5g network and would then screw up.
That is my theory anyway, and if it turns out true it would have solved one of my biggest annoyances with android. (or at least my android experience)
fingers crossed
i too went in and got a new sim. my phone service actually quit working before going in. id get calls and i could hear them but they couldnt hear me. i replaced the sim and all is good. where miui would hang and data would freeze and id haft to redo the airplane mode trick, it would just hang for a sec or 2 and then start downloading again. ive only had it hang 2x now and i think its because it might be switching from hspa to 3g or even wifi.
so for the sim card thing worked. if it fails in the mean time, ill come back to this and give an update. thanks for suggesting it being the sim card cause i wouldnt have thought of that.
I'm another day strong without any problems. I don't know of its due to the new sim or because i switched to a Samsung based rom. I should switch back to test, but I'm loving the speed of icsrewed right now.
If i had to guess i would say it's due to the sim, and if so, there should be a sticky somewhere that says to make sure your not using an older 3g sim card. Would have saved me months of aggravation.
Will report back after a few more days. In a week or so I'll switch back to cm to see if it fixes it there as well.
That's one reason I generally buy my phones at the att store (authorized reseller, but dedicated to att phones). Usually they will price match, and they know things like that. My SIM went bad when I had my captivate. Later when I upgraded to a faux G phone the att rep knew I would need a new SIM, and replaced it then, even though it was only a month old. They also knew the "3G" data plan needed to be converted to a "4G" (still unlimited) plan on their system for me to get data.
You don't get that kind of assistance when you buy at Walmart, online, etc.
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quarlow said:
That's one reason I generally buy my phones at the att store. Usually they will price match, and they know things like that. My SIM went bad when I had my captivate. Later when I upgraded to a faux G phone the att rep knew I would need a new SIM, and replaced it then, even though it was only a month old. They also knew the "3G" data plan needed to be converted to a "4G" (still unlimited) plan on their system for me to get data.
You don't get that kind of assistance when you buy at Walmart, online, etc.
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Amazon Mobile just sends you a new simcard anyways lol
Interesting, maybe next time if my data refuses to work I should bug at&t for a new Sim card. I had problems on different roms including stock rom where I had to turn off and on my data or else it will not work. But I think my modem might have played a role. Data seems fine now.
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zynine said:
Interesting, maybe next time if my data refuses to work I should bug at&t for a new Sim card. I had problems on different roms including stock rom where I had to turn off and on my data or else it will not work. But I think my modem might have played a role. Data seems fine now.
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If you go directly to an AT&T store they replace it for free.
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If you go directly to an AT&T store they replace it for free.
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Yup just show up. They shouldn't charge. as long as your an att customer theyll take care of you. I've never heard of anyone paying for a new Sim. If you lose your Sim I've heard of them charging people, but i doubt they'll charge even then.

Using T-Mobile Radio UVLK1 Not Getting Phone Calls

Hey guys, this did not happen at first, but today I have been experiencing some big issues with my phone.
I have been using the UVLK1 ICS based radio since I am an AT&T Galaxy Note user on the T-Mobile Network.
People have been calling me and my phone isn't ringing. I am getting Google Voice e-mails for voicemails they leave me but the phone never rang. I am at work where I always have gotten great service at all times. I rebooted the phone and it is still doing the same thing.
Any ideas?
Now I can't even make calls...the phone disconnects the call right after I tap the make call button...
Now I flashed the Blaze 4G radio, doing the same thing. Can't receive calls and immediately disconnecting when trying to place calls.
Data isn't working either..
Pulled the SIM card, put back in, problem solved. Weird!
It is doing it again! This morning it happened and I had to pull battery and SIM, reboot, it worked but shortly after stopped working...
issues with TMobile radios on galaxy note
I have experienced similar problems as well, but not to the extent to where my phone doesn't work at all. Since TMobile sells the Note now, I'm sure someone will port the full ROM or at least the radio.
avantcs said:
I have experienced similar problems as well, but not to the extent to where my phone doesn't work at all. Since TMobile sells the Note now, I'm sure someone will port the full ROM or at least the radio.
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i'm using the SGH-I727 with various T-Mobile radios and having the same issue, kinda. It will work for about 3-5 hours then stop. The signal meter still works, 2-3 bars in my area, even flucuates. However it will say (Searching) and nothing comes in or goes out. It does not work again until rebooted. Then the process repeats.
Any other t-mobile subscribers with you? The crazy weather might be a cause.
Can you put your sim in your back up phone?

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