I was wondering when we will see some custom kernels, I'm hoping for a stock frequency with ulv voltages kernel?
I cant wait to get some extra battery life out of the Thunderbolt
Are Devs waiting on the kernel source code? and if so are there any work-arounds until its released?
I'm kinda new to XDA, Sorry if this should be posted elsewhere.
I just looked at the general section and I see questions relating to development there, sorry for posting in the wrong section.
masInvasion said:
I was wondering when we will see some custom kernels, I'm hoping for a stock frequency with ulv voltages kernel?
I cant wait to get some extra battery life out of the Thunderbolt
Are Devs waiting on the kernel source code? and if so are there any work-arounds until its released?
I'm kinda new to XDA, Sorry if this should be posted elsewhere.
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Best way to do this would be using the kernel source which we are at the mercy of HTC to provide for us. Also, this belongs in the Thunderbolt General forum not in the Development forum.
I am pretty sure we need the source code for this first.
Also next time you should post this in general
bikeandestroyx said:
I am pretty sure we need the source code for this first.
Also next time you should post this in general
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Yea I figured it was a Dev question but I just realized Questions aren't posted in this section
Where are MOD requests posted, for future reference?
Is it in the general section, it just seems like they get lost in the collection of threads?
It would be nice if the dev section had a sub section for request.
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I am pretty sure we need the source code for this first.
Also next time you should post this in general
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Agreed. We need the source code first then a few weeks for the code monkeys to do their awesome thing.
masInvasion said:
I was wondering when we will see some custom kernels, I'm hoping for a stock frequency with ulv voltages kernel?
I cant wait to get some extra battery life out of the Thunderbolt
Are Devs waiting on the kernel source code? and if so are there any work-arounds until its released?
I'm kinda new to XDA, Sorry if this should be posted elsewhere.
I just looked at the general section and I see questions relating to development there, sorry for posting in the wrong section.
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You hear that, devs?! YOU'RE ALL ON NOTICE: masInvasion wants a custom kernel, NOW!
Quit sitting around working your nine to fives and feeding your nerdy dogs! You've got code to write!
Nine to five, Very funny...
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Been working on a build of CM7 - got my laptop back up and running and thought I'd tackle this. Last night I started the build and woke up this morning to this:
make: *** No rule to make target `vendor/samsung/c1-common/proprietary/BCM4330B1_002.001.003.0128.0162.hcd', needed by `out/target/product/galaxys2att/system/bin/BCM4330B1_002.001.003.0128.0162.hcd'. Stop.
Any idea how to get passed this? From the looks of it, I was close to the end of the build process
Thanks I appreciate any help...
Sort of got this resolved. Codeworkx simply stated its an issue of missing proprietary files. Ill have to copy them over which I'm not sure why they weren't in the first place...
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Thread moved to General since there is no Dev work being made here... yet. If you happen to fix your issue and want to make a rom, then start a new thread in the Dev section with a link pointing to the rom.
Thank you and have a nice day.
Red5 said:
Thread moved to General since there is no Dev work being made here... yet. If you happen to fix your issue and want to make a rom, then start a new thread in the Dev section with a link pointing to the rom.
Thank you and have a nice day.
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Debugging a compiler error isn't development? Perhaps the so called development forums are becoming too focused on showing off wares, with little or no attention being paid to actually developing?
At first he was asking a question about decompiling. Since he answered his own questions, I threw it in General. Since he is not offering a rom/kernel/tool then this does not belong in the Dev section.
Thanks I guess.
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Sounds like a developer question to me... perhaps the development forum should be renamed to Roms or something
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blahze9 said:
Sounds like a developer question to me... perhaps the development forum should be renamed to Roms or something
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Read the sticky in the Dev forum...
blahze9 said:
Sounds like a developer question to me... perhaps the development forum should be renamed to Roms or something
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Exactly, it is a question so it would belong in the Q/A sections not the development section. This stuff isn't new, read the forum rules. Quite simple to understand if you ask me.
The way I see it, its just red's opinion. He sees it fit in here then so be it, his opinion and we just have to live with it. Regardless its still all search able information.
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akira02rex said:
The way I see it, its just red's opinion. He sees it fit in here then so be it, his opinion and we just have to live with it. Regardless its still all search able information.
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Actually, it is not his opinion, it is xda rules. The only posts in the development boards, are posts discussing actual development. If the post is a question, it has no business being on the development board. Examples of acceptable dev topics:
Release of a new/updated rom
Release of a new/updated kernel
Release of a new/updated hardware specific patch
Release of a new/updated hardware specific app
*Technical * discussion of ongoing hardware /software development (rooting, bootloader, etc). Asking when root wil be available is not technical.
If your title for a post is in the form of a basic question, it does not belong in development, period.
I have to play devils advocate... but with the understanding that I'm doing just that and not really arguing...
I posed a similar question to Red in a PM. If I have a question asking how I can Retro fit Samsung propriatary shared libs into a new program I'm writing, or where I might find headers for those libs, where does that question go? Its certainly technical and development related... it also doesn't seem to fit in the q&a subforum (which doesn't seem to have any dev questions but is more general.)
Yet, its a question, and doesn't belong in the "development" subforum under a strict interpretation of the rules (which seems to say that the dev forum is only used to advertise mods, roms, etc)
Red suggested the q&a subforum. I disagree, but he is a moderator.
Not being sarcastic here, but perhaps we really do need new subforums for posting links to the result of development and allow the development subforums to go back to discussing that and other development. (Or vice versa) long ago when I first joined xda, discussing development was encouraged (and the primary purpose of xda-DEVELOPERS.)
Take Care
Gary
garyd9 said:
I have to play devils advocate... but with the understanding that I'm doing just that and not really arguing...
I posed a similar question to Red in a PM. If I have a question asking how I can Retro fit Samsung propriatary shared libs into a new program I'm writing, or where I might find headers for those libs, where does that question go? Its certainly technical and development related... it also doesn't seem to fit in the q&a subforum (which doesn't seem to have any dev questions but is more general.)
Yet, its a question, and doesn't belong in the "development" subforum under a strict interpretation of the rules (which seems to say that the dev forum is only used to advertise mods, roms, etc)
Red suggested the q&a subforum. I disagree, but he is a moderator.
Not being sarcastic here, but perhaps we really do need new subforums for posting links to the result of development and allow the development subforums to go back to discussing that and other development. (Or vice versa) long ago when I first joined xda, discussing development was encouraged (and the primary purpose of xda-DEVELOPERS.)
Take Care
Gary
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I understand how you feel and would love it myself but at this point and time with the influx of Soo many non tech minded people that don't know the diff Between a normal question and a development related question that all questions are pointed to the Q&A.
There seems to be confusion about posting ROMs in General or Developers section. I just reported a post and fjasked that a "stock" ROM be moved from the Dev section to the General section because recently another Stock ROM was in fact moved with the reason that all stock ROMs belong in General. The response to my report was "this is a tough call I ll move it but it could stay in dev". So, that is a very non-committal answer from a mod. In addition, this post, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1184817, is an example of previous guidance on the subject. It clearly states that the Dev section is "only meant for very advanced technical discussion directly related to ROM development activity and the delivery of actual ROMs and ROM components ONLY". I would agree with this guidance. Can we stop differentiating between stock and no-stock ROMs and place ALL ROMs in the Dev section, as stated in the above guidance? Thank you for you work and time. XDA is a great place. I am not whining or complaining. I am merely asking for clarification of this issue so we can move on.
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um, your "question" for clarification belongs in the Q section. Not General.
Also, reading the Dev section I think it is pretty clear that it is for rom development only.
Stock roms aren't development...in this case it's a link to a leaked rom. that's it...doesn't belong in development.
So, if the Mod moved it to General it was done correctly.
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um, your "question" for clarification belongs in the Q section. Not General.
Also, reading the Dev section I think it is pretty clear that it is for rom development only.
Stock roms aren't development...in this case it's a link to a leaked rom. that's it...doesn't belong in development.
So, if the Mod moved it to General it was done correctly.
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I been on here for some time across at least 6 phones, and I've never heard of such or seen this done.
It should be like how normal 90% of XDA works!
ROM/Kernels in Dev no matter if its stock or custom! That's it no argument! I had only three phone couple of tablets but whatever forum i went to. THis is the theory they followed! Very simple idk what's big deal about it! IDK why this ppl don't like that!
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um, your "question" for clarification belongs in the Q section. Not General.
Also, reading the Dev section I think it is pretty clear that it is for rom development only.
Stock roms aren't development...in this case it's a link to a leaked rom. that's it...doesn't belong in development.
So, if the Mod moved it to General it was done correctly.
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Your first sentence made me lol. You're right but I thought maybe since it was asking about the General then it could go in the General. Maybe it will be moved. Whatever.
Your second point is the crux of my question. If you read the guidance that I referenced it does not discriminate against stock ROMs. All ROMs are development, as are all kernels and other code. Code can be developed, whether it is stock code or other. Or at least that what I think.
I am anxious to see what the Moderators have to say. They have been very quiet on this issue.
esincho said:
I been on here for some time across at least 6 phones, and I've never heard of such or seen this done.
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I agree with you, I've been here a while , thru a span of of six devices forums myself also(htc excalibur-tmo dash/htc tilt-kaiser/htc fuze-raphael/the first android OG "htc dream-Tmobile G1"/htc leo/hd2) and now here and all roms have always been in the rom development section, even stock roms that serve as base for custom roms are part of development .
I have been frequenting this site since my PPC6600 and all ROMs official or otherwise have been in a development section of some type. That goes back 5 + years (a very long time in tech years)
I don't know if that means anything to anyone, but us old guys don't like change =P.
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Yes that's what i m saying! We get used to it! Plus its the only one place to look for stock or custom! no need to poop all over the place! Common sense!
21productionz said:
I have been frequenting this site since my PPC6600 and all ROMs official or otherwise have been in a development section of some type. That goes back 5 + years (a very long time in tech years)
I don't know if that means anything to anyone, but us old guys don't like change =P.
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well guess i'll add my 2 cents too
ive been on XDA since Celluar One....., and all roms of any sort have always been in the development section that ive seen...
From ***Development Only Here - All Others Will Be Locked/Deleted!*** stickied at the top of the Development forum.
This forum is for posting Development projects only - ROMs, Kernels, Mods (but not Themes, there's a separate forum for them), not stock ROMs (they belong in General). Anything else will be moved or locked. Do not ask questions here, do not post requests here, they belong in General.
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Stock ROMs belong in General according to the rules. Not sure if they are enforced or not though.
I dunno why they changed the rule. Is it specific for AT&T Galaxy Note or in general? Because at least Captivate/i9000/i9100 section have 'stock ROM list' sticky on development section.
MrJoran said:
From ***Development Only Here - All Others Will Be Locked/Deleted!*** stickied at the top of the Development forum.
Stock ROMs belong in General according to the rules. Not sure if they are enforced or not though.
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Madness.....
Even a mod agrees with us! We need to change this and put back all the stock stuff in dev section!
wardfan220 said:
Stock or not a rom is developed at some point, I've always kept them in the dev section If someone is looking for a stock rom to load, they're going to check the dev area first not general, imo. Not saying you're wrong, just my thought.
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Well according to those rules questions belong in general. Obviously it needs to be updated.
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MrJoran said:
From ***Development Only Here - All Others Will Be Locked/Deleted!*** stickied at the top of the Development forum.
Stock ROMs belong in General according to the rules. Not sure if they are enforced or not though.
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But is a "leaked" Rom to be considered stock? Phones don't ship with them....
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Leaked ROMs are still not something you made thus you aren't developing them, thus why would the go in development? I understand why people would want to put them there, but according to the rules, its not where they belong.
I really can't stand this! IF you really want to get this changed plz comment and let me know! Because i just don't like how this is going!
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I really can't stand this! IF you really want to get this changed plz comment and let me know! Because i just don't like how this is going!
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Lol, my vote would ba a mod (or eager poster) should compile one sticky of all stock and leaked roms into one sticky which can be posted at the top of the development section.
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ACTUALLY
ACTUALLY, this post doesn't belong in Q&A...
It belongs in the MAIN GENERAL section... I'm just saying...
LOL
but yeah, the idea is stupid. they should change the rules...
Lol, who the hell cares? Just post it in one of the two and if a mod feels like moving it, let him. Personally I think any rom of any type should all go in one section so they're easy to find... but I'm not gonna cry about it if the mod wants it in general.
Hello,
Whats best JB Kernel and Radio for International S2?
Please vote for:
- Radio
- Kernel for JB
For international Galaxy S2,
Ty Will help many newbies and wondering ppl!
You've been on this site for 4 years and you still didn't find the common sense to read sticky's and find out that these kinds of threads aren't allowed?
With regards,
Beston94
beston94 said:
You've been on this site for 4 years and you still didn't find the common sense to read sticky's and find out that these kinds of threads aren't allowed?
With regards,
Beston94
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Some times giving the freedom beyond the rules is what makes the forum into more friendly to NEW guys who got no clue in this things but looking for easy, instant information.
rommark said:
Some times giving the freedom beyond the rules is what makes the forum into more friendly to NEW guys who got no clue in this things but looking for easy, instant information.
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A. You're not allowed to post a "what is the best_____" thread
B. Radio is location dependant, so you can start trying them out. (they take a few cycles for them to settle, just like flashing roms and kernels)
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He looks like he didnt read your new thread Kilometer.But at least he put a ? in his topic title(unlike I do).
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vector88 said:
Why is there minimum posts requirement to post in developement forums? It seems stupid to me, man needs to post his messages in other OT forums.
Well, there is a bug about BLN in latest 4.0.1 Siyah S2 kernel, backlights stays on even if turned off in ROM manager.
Thanks.
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Why do you think this is the best place to post this?
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vector88 said:
Why is there minimum posts requirement to post in developement forums? It seems stupid to me, man needs to post his messages in other OT forums.
Well, there is a bug about BLN in latest 4.0.1 Siyah S2 kernel, backlights stays on even if turned off in ROM manager.
Thanks.
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This really isn't the place to ask questions... And you could ask that question in the siyah discussion thread. Rather than the development thread.
Ok m8
I am using Dorimanx v7.33 for JB.. on android v4.2.1 - cm10.1 I am using this so I can undervolt to get the battery to last longer. Doing the same thing I can get 2 days on ICS.
I dont know about radio but try out GetRIL so the RIL and Baseband are the same on every one they never match.
rommark said:
Some times giving the freedom beyond the rules is what makes the forum into more friendly to NEW guys who got no clue in this things but looking for easy, instant information.
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It's better for new guys to read for themselves, so they know what they are flashing. Otherwise you get dozens of annoying questions afterwarts about their rom, because they blindly follow advise about roms that are based on personal preferrences (which maybe don't match their own expectations).
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People...
Why you can't read stickies threads for 10 minutes it's not hard ? Isn't it ?
Merry christmas and Happy new year
Paulius
Hey all,
As some of you have probably noticed by now, we have a new Development section for original works. As explained in the portal article Introducing the Original Development Forums, these forums were found to be very useful in other sections and there has been a lot of requests to add them for more devices.
Please refer to the article for general guidelines on what is and isn't appropriate to post there, and if you have any questions feel free to ask in this thread or to PM any of the moderators about it.
Those using Tapatalk or the XDA app will probably need to refresh the forums list in order to see it. You can do this by going to the base forum view that list all of the different devices and refreshing or by unsubscribing and then resubscribing to this section.
Thank you for addressing our request
Who would I need to bring a list of those original development threads that still remain in the Android Development forum that need to transfer here?
-Neo
EDIT:
The following fall under the guidelines of First for the device/official/or heavily modified original kernel work:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1911297
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2074906
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1659210
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2071043
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2079282
It may take some time to sort through everything, but the best way to let us know is to PM one of us.
edit: Unless I'm missing something the MIUI and AOKP threads aren't even GPL compliant?
xHausx said:
It may take some time to sort through everything, but the best way to let us know is to PM one of us.
edit: Unless I'm missing something the MIUI and AOKP threads aren't even GPL compliant?
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lol
Busted!
Added to my signature thanks.
he didnt know where to put it. give him a break
I have moved a large amount of threads over to the Original Dev section. This mainly consisted of cm10/cm9/aokp/kernel threads that were source built. Please PM me or any other mod if you think your thread should be moved as well.
gotta say. you mods rock. thank you for everything you do.
I almost had a heart attack because I couldn't find my CyanogenMod mega threads!
Thought I was going to be banned or something.
xHausx said:
Hey all,
As some of you have probably noticed by now, we have a new Development section for original works. As explained in the portal article Introducing the Original Development Forums, these forums were found to be very useful in other sections and there has been a lot of requests to add them for more devices.
Please refer to the article for general guidelines on what is and isn't appropriate to post there, and if you have any questions feel free to ask in this thread or to PM any of the moderators about it.
Those using Tapatalk or the XDA app will probably need to refresh the forums list in order to see it. You can do this by going to the base forum view that list all of the different devices and refreshing or by unsubscribing and then resubscribing to this section.
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Ok, this explains a lot. I thought I was going nuts for a sec.
i wish we had a poll asking if we wanted this, iv always been agianst separating dev section, for the same thing, this just alienated and confuses the users.
I tend to agree with siul.
Do you know how much extra work is to have three main folders to check under each device? General / Development (read ROMS that are cool but came from another device) / and Original Development (ROMS that are still based on others work but have been tweaked/setup somewhat uniquely.)
Honest to God, those were my reactions. So I know where siul is coming from...how is MIUI in a different thread than AOKP? If you add a few apps that look different and don't ship with AOKP, is that suddenly original?
Again, not trying to start drama but just my two cents.
EDIT: Just read the whole justification for this. I get it, but still think it's another layer of stuff to sort through.
Bad idea change thing back to the old ways Please
This is bad Mostly for the user who are new i seen the other forum that are like this, not a good i idea doing this plus the developer hate going to one forum to the other just to set thing straight
cflo360 said:
This is bad Mostly for the user who are new i seen the other forum that are like this, not a good i idea doing this plus the developer hate going to one forum to the other just to set thing straight
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i am confused too. It may look more obvious and understandable for devs only...
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torr310 said:
i am confused too. It may look more obvious and understandable for devs only...
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Not really. I am not sure how my CM threads fall into original development.
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Not really. I am not sure how my CM threads fall into original development.
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Because all are built from source by the person posting them and not a rom modified from someone else's. It falls under the original development guidelines that are posted in the op of this thread.
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IAmTheOneTheyCallNeo said:
Because all are built from source by the person posting them and not a rom modified from someone else's. It falls under the original development guidelines that are posted in the op of this thread.
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Oh. I see original as something new and completely different.
Whatever.
IAmTheOneTheyCallNeo said:
Because all are built from source by the person posting them and not a rom modified from someone else's. It falls under the original development guidelines that are posted in the op of this thread.
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I don't see how this works then, because none of my roms are based on someone else's work. and if what you say was true, then all aosp roms compiled from chad's git should be placed on the general dev section instead of the "original dev section" since everyone's aosp rom is based on his work(compiling it docent make it your work). And please understand im just trying to make a point here, no trying to be an ass or anything. i just hate the idea of roms being divided by 2 different dev sections. its just prone to confusion.
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I don't see how this works then, because none of my roms are based on someone else's work. and if what you say was true, then all aosp roms compiled from chad's git should be placed on the general dev section instead of the "original dev section" since everyone's aosp rom is based on his work(compiling it docent make it your work). And please understand im just trying to make a point here, no trying to be an ass or anything. i just hate the idea of roms being divided by 2 different dev sections. its just prone to confusion.
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That's what I think. All of the AOSP ROMs built from Chad's git are not original unless chad himself released a ROM.
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I think this new thread splt is to confusing. Now I have to check two places. Please revert to back
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siulmagic said:
I don't see how this works then, because none of my roms are based on someone else's work. and if what you say was true, then all aosp roms compiled from chad's git should be placed on the general dev section instead of the "original dev section" since everyone's aosp rom is based on his work(compiling it docent make it your work). And please understand im just trying to make a point here, no trying to be an ass or anything. i just hate the idea of roms being divided by 2 different dev sections. its just prone to confusion.
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I don't take your response to that effect in any way and no intent to malice received.
"The following are most likely not “Original Development”, and should be posted in the “Android Development” subforum:
Your own “unofficial” stock build of your favourite original, source-built (or otherwise) ROM, particularly where an official or maintainer-endorsed thread exists already."
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This plainly states that the self compiled roms belong on the Android Development forum so I side with you in that aspect. However, there is no official or maintainer version of CyanogenMod roms or AOKP thread available so unless Chad uploads his build in this forum as he rightfully could, these builds (from what I understand) can and should be posted here.
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Hay guys, I have had this issue for a while now, but i was waiting to see if it was fixed in 4.2.1, but it wasn't.
The sound output to my headphones is not as loud as I would like it to be. I am running the latest leak of 4.2.1. Does anyone know anything that could help me?
Wait for kernel devs to update to 4.2 1 or flash 4.1.2 kernel with sound mods
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you posted in the developer section. What are you developing?
Glebun said:
you posted in the developer section. What are you developing?
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I don't really think this would be applicable to be posted in any other section. I posted this in the hopes that i could be told how to modify it myself. Hence, develop something.
Next time, think before you go on someones thread trying to be a smart arse.
tmantanner4 said:
I don't really think this would be applicable to be posted in any other section. I posted this in the hopes that i could be told how to modify it myself. Hence, develop something.
Next time, think before you go on someones thread trying to be a smart arse.
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No, next time, read the rules before posting. You can only post here if you've developed something and want to share
If you tried to look around this section, you would notice it's nothing but ROMs
Questions go in the questions section. Report your post and ask for it to be moved