Hey guys, I've already asked this once, but I still don't get what is baseband and what differs from one to another.
If a ROM support different basbands, like 54 and 58, is it better to have 58?
Thank you!
It is the range of frequencies your phone will try and use. it depends on your area which is the best. For north america, .55 imo is the best. .58 is for hungary so people not from that area have been noticing severe battery loss as their phone would be trying to use improper frequencies...
So it does not have anything to do with actual software perfomance?
x10a can go up to 55 right? Or does 58 work too?
It does. Kinda.
You can use .58 (as I do, but will return, as I'm having SEVERE battery issues).
FelipeRRM said:
So it does not have anything to do with actual software perfomance?
x10a can go up to 55 right? Or does 58 work too?
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It does effect performance , with call quality and 3g/data speeds, text messaging and mms, but not software unless it had to connect to the internet (online games maybe). If you're in north america and try to use .58, it will work but net speeds especially will be worse as it is scanning for a different frequency range.
Brazil here.
Put .55 and it says uknown baseband =O ?
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I am going to be testing each and every baseband this week using speedtests from the Mobile Speedtest app, and mobilespeedtest.com. with and w/o the 3g enhance buildprops. I will test these at 3 locations. My home, home work, and wherever I seem to be alot, to see how results change.
so far.
H, 2/5 bars
Location A Atlanta GA
.55a
D:3332 U:1194
.54i
D:2675 U:1259
.58
D:2708 U:1351
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I am using AT&T, and live not to far from Atlanta.
Originally I bought my phone using only baseband .49, then eventually .52, then stayed on .54 for quite a while. They all seemed to be quite the same, I don't recall when it was x10a or i, but one of them was an x10i baseband, and I always had great service. Even when I was in 2GAtlanta.
For the past week and a half I have had strange issues. Such as being able to call anyone except family members on the same plan, and them not being able to call me. I blame ATT for this. Then J's CM& crashed on me with bb .54, so I spent a day trying to try a new rom and basebands, and the whole day I got bars or no bars. No E, 3G, or H. I am very use to seeing an H, never 3g, and only E when I power control it off.
I reflashed .54a, and went back to wolf's rom, and had problems finding ATT and 3g H service. Eventually I learned to crash sys server, and that night after rexrecoery installing Wolfs rom step by step, i finally got a E, and later that night a few H's, but mostly E's in places I remember getting H speed at. I sat around unable to download apps or browse in the web at the speeds I normally would in those spots.
So i flashed .58, and everything seemed to barely change. More H, but never in my neighborhood, but I read bad reviews, so i wanted to try .55a. So I am on 55A, and now doing speedtests, that are either really high or really low, and I would be sitting in the same spot.
So here are the differences
X10I
GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS900, UMTS1700, UMTS2100 HSDPA 7.2 Mbit
X10A
GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS800, UMTS850, UMTS1900, UMTS2100
HSDPA 10.2 Mbit
According to my research. Most towers and broadcasters in the U.S. and ATT rely on x10a. I've seen people ask if 3g will work on x10i bb on ATT. As far as i know E and H, do, i'm sure ive seen a 3g pop up.
So I want to collect some answers and information.
1. Should I stay with a x10a baseband as a ATT user in the U.S. If so, what is the preffered baseband to use at the moment
2. What are other ATT users using, and what kind of speed are you getting.
3. Is there a better build.prop setting than what is in the enhanced 3g thread?
1. from what your post says, its recommended but sometimes BB from the X10i works better, it just depends on the ROM and what BB you flash, like me i run .54i and it seems fine but....
2. currently running .54i on Wolfs CM ROM 4.5.7 and i've had some stability issues with internet while tethering on 3G, but i get full bars 100% of the time, i get about 3-4mbps of download speed and upload is 1.5mbps on speedtest
i recently dropped .58i because it shot my battery down like nothing but i had similar download results to .54i but i had no issues, it was stable 100% when i tether
3. as far as i know, no
and to help with your 3G issue, H is basically 3G but faster, if not its probably a replaced icon for 3G, been knowing this since Windows Mobile days
XERO_Racer said:
1. from what your post says, its recommended but sometimes BB from the X10i works better, it just depends on the ROM and what BB you flash, like me i run .54i and it seems fine but....
2. currently running .54i on Wolfs CM ROM 4.5.7 and i've had some stability issues with internet while tethering on 3G, but i get full bars 100% of the time, i get about 3-4mbps of download speed and upload is 1.5mbps on speedtest
i recently dropped .58i because it shot my battery down like nothing but i had similar download results to .54i but i had no issues, it was stable 100% when i tether
3. as far as i know, no
and to help with your 3G issue, H is basically 3G but faster, if not its probably a replaced icon for 3G, been knowing this since Windows Mobile days
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I assumed as Much about H. Seemed to be an international code not seen on stock US phones. Ill try .54i. ty
just keep in mind, .54i you might experience some internet issues unless thats me(due to the heavy rain the day before) if that doesnt work for you i suggest going to .55a or .54a, let me know because im planning on flashing a differen BB sometime tonight, preferably .55a
im on .55a, er was. just flashed .54i, seems to be a little fast. nothign too noticable. what are ways to test this besides speedtest.net?
i might go ahead and flash each one and see which gives me the better stats
you can try http://mobilespeedtest.com on your browser
and i recommend spending at least a full day or two on each baseband to see how it goes for you
and i just flashed .55a and its now stable for tethering and internet performance seems to be a bit better but it might be a placebo effect,and i dont know about battery though, ill report back tomorrow or the day after
I guess i'll report all the information from here to
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=976872
and begin testing every baseband this week whenever i go to work. I actually did multiple speedtests on my way to work where I know I deal with 2G, 3G and 3.5G
fair enough
will be doing test on my own as well
i looked at the thread you provided and it seems .54a seems to be the best, but thats from his test, and also location varies as well, so results might be different for you, compare to his and also some mentioned that Wolfs CM ROM could have 3g problems as well
although i will flash to .54a and test all day tomorrow and next day and back to .55a
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fair enough
will be doing test on my own as well
i looked at the thread you provided and it seems .54a seems to be the best, but thats from his test, and also location varies as well, so results might be different for you, compare to his and also some mentioned that Wolfs CM ROM could have 3g problems as well
although i will flash to .54a and test all day tomorrow and next day and back to .55a
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.55 seems to be doing a lot better now, got a DL rate of 4000 outside.
I'm not to sure if Wolfs rom has a confirmed 3g problem, it does have a problem connecting/and finding network operator services. I hope he says something about it, because it was working fine on 4.3
Oh well. I just figured if i repeat the same routine and run tests in the same spots at the right time, day weather, and everything thing else exactly the same, results will start to make sense? I think I confused myself
im on at&t 2.1 rom i cleaned it out, now i want to see if i can get the H symble like with custom roms, i heard someone say have to edit the prop file or something but not sure how so im asking
My stock 2.1 SE firmware always had H? What do mean your trying to get H on your phone to get it to work?
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i mean on custom roms would show H on stock roms all i see is 3g
leo5111 said:
i mean on custom roms would show H on stock roms all i see is 3g
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You should be getting H on stock 2.1. not just custom ROMS. I do get H on stock.
I wish I could help you out but I have never heard if that issue before. Or seen it posted. If I do come across it, I will send it your way
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I think it depends on .xml values and .png icons.
On some versions there are specified values of Mobile Internet Signal and which icon to show on each case.
So to make things clear let's imagine a hypothetical Mobile internet signal scale from 1 to 10 where 1 being the weakest and 10 the strongest signal you can find (G - 4G).
On some ROMs (aka Stock 1.6) there may be this connection between values and icons:
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ICON STRENGTH_SCALE
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G 1-4
2G 4-5
3G 5-6
E 6-8
H 8-9 (if I recall correctly this icon actually DOES NOT exist on 1.6)
4G 9-10
Now on another ROM this connection between icons and signal values might be different (or some icons might not exist at all) , let's say stock 2.1:
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ICON STRENGTH_SCALE
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G 1-4
2G 4-4.5
3G 4.5-5.5
E 5.5-6
H 6-8.5
4G 8.5-10
So let's say you have a signal that flactuates in an average value of about (hypothetical) 5.5
As you can see on the above examples in this value on 1.6 you would get a 3G icon whereas on 2.1 you would get an E and in some cases (0.5 above) an H.
In short, png statusbar icons do NOT always correspond to the actuall values beacause values DO change from ROM to ROM! Just look at the overall download and upload speed feeling.
Disclaimer Note: All the above theory is *NOT* verified anywhere by anyone. I've done only some theming myself and I'm *NOT* even a dev. So all the above are just assumptions to why you are having this problem. Every single value and ROM refference is also 100% hypothetical to make you understand my point.
Regards,
mr_element.
youre lucky then, because its known that everyone on at&t BUT iphone users are the butt of at&t,s joke they hobble the speed of anything but the iphone. custom roms get around it
leo5111 said:
im on at&t 2.1 rom i cleaned it out, now i want to see if i can get the H symble like with custom roms, i heard someone say have to edit the prop file or something but not sure how so im asking
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The att roms do not have H and are only UMTS signal. You must switch to a generic to not be a second class customer on ATT.
IN the X10 general section is a thread on how to flash 2.1 on a att phone. It still applies to you. I have two x10's and both use the firmware in that thread. If you look for my comments in there you will also find the tweaks to get iphone equivalent speeds as well as correct the NTP_SERVER and dual touch settings.
I would post a link but it's hard from this tapatalk app. Sorry.figured out a way. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1012380
[Guide] AT&T X10a Upgrade from 1.6 to 2.1, root, optimize(enable JIT), xRecovery
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i switched to 2.1 generic for some reason all tweaked it seems quicker then the at&t 2.1 all tweaked go figure
The AT&T 2.1 with 65 bb is slower (show 3G symbol) than the global generic 2.1 with 54bb (shows H symbol). However with Stan S. tweaks it is almost as fast for downloads even though it is 3G in my area. ATT 65 bb has much much better battery life, better reception (I live in a spotty area and reception has improved or it is because Stan S. tweaks to the buildprop), and is smoother than the Global generic 54 bb imo. If the 2.1 Global generic with 65 bb gets released I will switch to to that or just wait for 2.3 to get released.
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i switched to 2.1 generic for some reason all tweaked it seems quicker then the at&t 2.1 all tweaked go figure
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yes, it's not a bad rom. I answered your PM. But I see you moved on to a generic.
It says UMTS or HSPA in the settings/about phone/status page? If its the HSPA, then don't worry, it's just a display icon if the tweaks give you the same speed.
In older SE firmware for older phones, ATT didn't like to put "H" in the status bar but it was really "H" when it showed 3G. But with the iPhone and some of the other phones proclaiming fast speeds, ATT didn't list the X10 as having HSPA data rates. A ATT service guy I talked to once, said that it was for our own good, as the iPhones were on a different subnet of the network and this kept us from getting bogged down in their traffic. Since I knew that wasn't true, I just smiled.
There is a android.cingular.com for the access points, but why use what the iphone people don't use it..
I have an SGSII on Telstra running darkyrom XXLPQ with KH3 modem. I've got an issue where data works fine on H+, but whenever the phone drops back to 3G I get absolutely nothing. I've tried disabling fast dormancy etc, but that just seems to reduce how often it falls back. Is there a modem I can use or a tweak that will let it get data on 3G as well as h+?
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I have an SGSII on Telstra running darkyrom XXLPQ with KH3 modem. I've got an issue where data works fine on H+, but whenever the phone drops back to 3G I get absolutely nothing. I've tried disabling fast dormancy etc, but that just seems to reduce how often it falls back. Is there a modem I can use or a tweak that will let it get data on 3G as well as h+?
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I think you are better off on T-model modem, like DVKF2 by telstra as that will work on your I9100T model best.
I have the same problem on stock 2.3.4, xeu. But it just about never drops back to 3g in Melbourne. So haven't bothered with telstra modem yet.
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I have a feeling you don't understand this very well and if I'm wrong I'm truly sorry. Either move to an area that you know does not have hspa coverage (otherwise known as 3g+ or 3.5g or h+ or 4G in North America depending on the phone model,manufacturer and provider) but rather only 3g and test there and come back to us or disable hspa in hidden settings (phone control/nas control/hspa control/choose r99 hspa off),which should disable hspa/hsdpa and hsupa and test and come back to us. That should give you data while 3g symbol is lit at reduced speed of course.
Right now all you seem to notice that when you engage data it is h+ and when it falls back to 3g, the symbol is only for voice over 3g therefore no data arrows.
Yeah, I'm talking about when I'm I'm an area that has poor hspa coverage and it drops back to 3g. Btw, my old xperia had no problem getting hspa in these same areas, so my radio performance is generally pretty bad with the sgs2.
Try all the I9100T modems until you find one that works well for you; they do generally work better with the I9100T than I9100 modems. And if that doesn't work, then you might as well try all the I9100 modems.
I've got an I9100T & found there's 2 or 3 I9100T specific modems that I get great signal strength/data speeds with (and granted 1 I9100 modem), and the rest are ordinary for me.
There is no simple fix for this. It's a trial and error thing. Unless you want to spend hours on the phone to your telco for probably zero result ?
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Yeah, I'm talking about when I'm I'm an area that has poor hspa coverage and it drops back to 3g. Btw, my old xperia had no problem getting hspa in these same areas, so my radio performance is generally pretty bad with the sgs2.
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Threw me off, because of mentioning 'fast dormancy'.
Good that I apologized in advance then.
I would still recommend testing it the second way I suggested just to see whether it works at all. I also sometime end up in an area that while seeming to have full strong signal, due to a congestion at a peak and other factors, has no or very little data throughoutput (this being in canada).
As suggested by others, testing other modems may help as well.
Don't even get me started with sgs2 and nokia's regarding radio.
Hello,
I have the SK17i and I'm a bit down by the bad network connection. I use GSM only mode, since UMTS coverage isnt that good as GSM coverage and with both enabled, its switching all the time.
Do you have similar problems?
A call breaks up, but I still got good connection displayed... 5 sec later, i got the yellow warning and no signal ... 10 sec later everything is back normal and I can make calls...
This is really freaking me out...
Do have this problem, too?
Is there any Solution?
Thanks,
Linkin
what software are you running? maybe that's the issue.
i used to have e-plus, cell coverage was ok, but internet was horrible.
now vodafone, good reception, good internet.
i'm running minCMsandwich, before that hybrom with x-kernel, never had problems with phone reception.
I'm running the stock ROM (*.58) at the moment!
I have o2 germany network!
Might wanna try different baseband?
Often radio problems are related to baseband...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1612834
iONEx said:
Might wanna try different baseband?
Often radio problems are related to baseband...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1612834
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Fully stock phones shouldn't have problems with baseband at all.
I will leave my mini pro since I can't really use it this way... I'm gonna give it a last try with the new ICS ROM but I'm not really optimistic...
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It looks like the ICS update fixed this problem!!! THANKS Sony... I love the XMP!
Unfortunately i have also a little problem with that.
I had poor bad network connection on GB... but both on official ICS and CM9 FXP123 its not much better...
baseband .72 is great. drain a lot battery, anyway
just had the same problem with ICS once... I will report back, how it progresses...
Hi all,
Has anyone updated their Orange S3 to 4.1.2 through KIES? Does it include any bloatware or anything useful (unlikely).
Also, has anyone taken a dump of the FW?
Just wondering as I have not seen much coverage of this other than that it has been released, eventually.
Cheers
MS
I think most people on here will have flashed the unbranded firmware to be honest.
Could be wrong though....
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Probably...
You are probably right, I am running the latest and greatest stock release, but live in hope that Orange will include Signal Boost in an update, one day.
mikep99 said:
I think most people on here will have flashed the unbranded firmware to be honest.
Could be wrong though....
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I doubt EE will go to the trouble of a bespoke radio firmware for their network, the XXELLA modem is working fine for me on EE with 12Mbps speed recorded on occasion (why bother with 4G when H+ is delivering that?).
I'd suggest you try flashing a few of the 4.1.2 radio variants to see if your signal improves, but this may also decrease your battery life.
boomboomer said:
I doubt EE will go to the trouble of a bespoke radio firmware for their network, the XXELLA modem is working fine for me on EE with 12Mbps speed recorded on occasion (why bother with 4G when H+ is delivering that?).
I'd suggest you try flashing a few of the 4.1.2 radio variants to see if your signal improves, but this may also decrease your battery life.
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Orange Signal Boost is a UMA application for Orange -- it allows you to make/receive calls / SMS over wifi when you have no signal. It was in the GS2, but not in the GS3, unfortunately. I was really hoping it would come out as well as I have practically no signal where I live unless I am right next to a window.
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Orange Signal Boost is a UMA application for Orange -- it allows you to make/receive calls / SMS over wifi when you have no signal. It was in the GS2, but not in the GS3, unfortunately. I was really hoping it would come out as well as I have practically no signal where I live unless I am right next to a window.
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Likewise, it is a shocking oversight that they have not brought this out for the S3. I have to stand in my kitchen if I want to use my phone! Sometimes that doesn't work either, so I have an excuse to go to the pub (I get signal there!).
Indeed
XXELLA does give good performance and I have tried modems galore, but when there are many houses between you and the base stations sometimes you just need some help!
On a slightly off topic note has anyone tried the BT Smartalk app? Although its just for outgoing calls its pretty handy for making calls against your BT allowance over WIFI.
If only we could have a seamless phone / wifi handover for calls.....I live in hope (and know that its been punted as a future before)
And I completely agree about the Signal Boost UMA side of things, its was super handy in my S2 when I occasionally ran a stock ROM or installed while rooted, plus I could make calls on the WIFI on the Underground in London, I do miss it!
boomboomer said:
I doubt EE will go to the trouble of a bespoke radio firmware for their network, the XXELLA modem is working fine for me on EE with 12Mbps speed recorded on occasion (why bother with 4G when H+ is delivering that?).
I'd suggest you try flashing a few of the 4.1.2 radio variants to see if your signal improves, but this may also decrease your battery life.
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