So I've been wondering does keeping it oc at 1.2ghz damage anything to the phone? I've read that it can kill your device lifespan is that true? Thanks
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If your device can't handle it... Yes
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If your device can't handle it... Yes
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hey rider...what you mean by that ..like when it hard freezes or what ?
I assume the vibrant can handle the 1.2ghz with ease?
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bosina said:
hey rider...what you mean by that ..like when it hard freezes or what ?
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I assume the vibrant can handle the 1.2ghz with ease?
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Not exactly.
Some of the Vibrants just can't handle ANY overclocking at all, they just freeze, and reboot too much because your processor is being worked too hard when it can't do it.
If you have a normal, regular vibrant, then yeah you can such as me, i can overclock as much as i want, i've gone to 1.4 with no problems...
but some people do have the problem, and having that can burn the plastic in your phone (its happened to a few over the year)
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Not exactly.
Some of the Vibrants just can't handle ANY overclocking at all, they just freeze, and reboot too much because your processor is being worked too hard when it can't do it.
If you have a normal, regular vibrant, then yeah you can such as me, i can overclock as much as i want, i've gone to 1.4 with no problems...
but some people do have the problem, and having that can burn the plastic in your phone (its happened to a few over the year)
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Yep.
Mine can run at 1.4 EASY with no heating up at all (I was surprised).
I wish there was a 1.6+ kernel, so I could push this processor to the max.
To understand the limits of the Vibrant's processor it's important to understand processors in general.
The process of manufacturing for a processor is not perfect. You get pristine chips and below standard chips; so essentially no two processors are the same just like fingerprints. So what they do for quality control is stress test each one individually within a specific range. If it can handle 1Ghz up to 1.x then it passes, if it can't hit 1Ghz minimum then it's destroyed/recycled (or whatever numbers Samsung in this case felt were reasonable). It's the only way to ensure every device functions the same.
Now translate that into people's individual phone. In essence it's the luck of the draw. Did you get the perfect manufactured chip? Only way to tell is to over clock it and stress test it. Some people get the perfect one, and others get the ones that barely made the cut. It works the same for all electronics.
Hope this information helped.
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So many people uave downloaded the new Nero V4 with the 1.4ghz kernel and have no issues. And some phones have crashed and not worked with that kernel.
Cpu tuners seem to work great at saving battery for other people and seem to killing mine more than without it. Even with same settings.
Do these apps work on some phones because of hardware compatibilities? Please help. These cpu tuners seem to harm my battery rather than save them.
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So many people uave downloaded the new Nero V4 with the 1.4ghz kernel and have no issues. And some phones have crashed and not worked with that kernel.
Cpu tuners seem to work great at saving battery for other people and seem to killing mine more than without it. Even with same settings.
Do these apps work on some phones because of hardware compatibilities? Please help. These cpu tuners seem to harm my battery rather than save them.
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yea it happen to me to is dat app cpu tuner dat slows down da phone cause i had it downloaded and its started moving slow...............
Try set cpu. I'm using it and I love it. I am not overclocked though. I have mine set to 200 mhz low and 1000mhz (1ghz) high conservative. I only overclock when playing games that require the extra speed.
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Yea i wanna try... just that i dont know if it will be a waste because i tried to many overclock apps and they all fail. I hear both good and bad things about it. I mean good reviews and bad reviews. So i think it might vary phone to phone.
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Yea i wanna try... just that i dont know if it will be a waste because i tried to many overclock apps and they all fail. I hear both good and bad things about it. I mean good reviews and bad reviews. So i think it might vary phone to phone.
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I know a lot of people are going to disagree, but I'm really not buying that "it varies from phone to phone". The only differences I know of is that newer Vibrant's don't have the gps issue and they have the 3 button issue with them where you can not boot into recovery. Other than that I think all Vibrant's are built the same.
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I have installed on my Atrix, Home Base VERSION #4 MEGA Base (B) DEBLURRED (MEGAEXT4)
After that, my phone started to heat up more. Arriving at the 80ºC processor.
The battery came in 44ºC.
Now, this 50ºC in the processor.
The normal is that?
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My phone gets warm when im doing some things as well, unless its physically hurting you or melting the plastic, you should be fine
mine has gotten over 60c to the point i couldnt hold it tight for that long
Grab a good case, because this phone gets very slippery when it gets too hot.
TPU cases and Otterbox are both good for this phone...
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I have installed on my Atrix, Home Base VERSION #4 MEGA Base (B) DEBLURRED (MEGAEXT4)
After that, my phone started to heat up more. Arriving at the 80ºC processor.
The battery came in 44ºC.
Now, this 50ºC in the processor.
The normal is that?
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To make sure it isn't a hardware issue, try a different ROM. 80°C gets me worried.
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Voelker45 said:
To make sure it isn't a hardware issue, try a different ROM. 80°C gets me worried.
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It's the ROM, because it only heated up after having placed it.
I'll put the other now, if it continues to heat up I have to return to the Brazil STOCK
I put this HB VERSION #3 MEGA Base (WITH BLUR) (MEGAEXT4)
thanks guys
Did you bother underclocking it? It might be running at 1.3 and you don't want that. That will obviously make it hot.
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I have installed on my Atrix, Home Base VERSION #4 MEGA Base (B) DEBLURRED (MEGAEXT4)
After that, my phone started to heat up more. Arriving at the 80ºC processor.
The battery came in 44ºC.
Now, this 50ºC in the processor.
The normal is that?
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Use watchdog to identify the misbehaving app. There must be something which must have been keeping the CPU busy.
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My phone rarely gets "hot". I gotta be pegging a lot of stuff for a while and.be plugged.in to get hot. I have display tweak which draws less.current and a very decent undervolt.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
Here is a link to a script that makes your phone smoother and less laggy. It works for all phones and is easy to install. Everything you need is here in this link. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
Please tell others what settings worked best for you.
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This script was not written for high end devices such as this one... Or anything with a dual core CPU... You might see a difference using a single core but this script was written for Ram management on lower end devices and devices with little ram... Using on a 1.5Ghz dualcore phone with 1GB of ram might imo be a waste of time...
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This script was not written for high end devices such as this one... Or anything with a dual core CPU... You might see a difference using a single core but this script was written for Ram management on lower end devices and devices with little ram... Using on a 1.5Ghz dualcore phone with 1GB of ram might imo be a waste of time...
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Thanks for letting me know
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I used to use this on my G2x, my quadrants and all benchmarks JUMPED with it, and worked REALLY well for it. But with the Amaze (I've already used it etc etc) I don't see any difference, the amaze's amount of ram is probably a big contributor to that fact but also probably the version of Android also, as my G2x was running 2.3.3....
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I used to use this on my G2x, my quadrants and all benchmarks JUMPED with it, and worked REALLY well for it. But with the Amaze (I've already used it etc etc) I don't see any difference, the amaze's amount of ram is probably a big contributor to that fact but also probably the version of Android also, as my G2x was running 2.3.3....
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It's the ram and the cpu the g2x is a 1Ghz dualcore we have 1.5Ghz dualcore the g2x only has a couple hundred MBs or ram amaze is 1GB... And that's why u see no improvement...
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It's the ram and the cpu the g2x is a 1Ghz dualcore we have 1.5Ghz dualcore the g2x only has a couple hundred MBs or ram amaze is 1GB... And that's why u see no improvement...
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I thought that's what I said.. hehehe probably not so much the CPU though as the script only modifies ram management.
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This script was not written for high end devices such as this one... Or anything with a dual core CPU... You might see a difference using a single core but this script was written for Ram management on lower end devices and devices with little ram... Using on a 1.5Ghz dualcore phone with 1GB of ram might imo be a waste of time...
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Ya... explain that to dual core Atrix users...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1257574&highlight=supercharger&page=221
Comments such as "it's pretty mind blowing" probably warrants investigation despite recommendations from people who have never tried it.
Oh... and the lower end device cannot choose this option:
Code:
9. 1000HP Super UnLedded{6,12,200,225,250,300}
Since it's designed for high end devices too, I prevent low end devices from going too over the top
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Ya... explain that to dual core Atrix users...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1257574&highlight=supercharger&page=221
Comments such as "it's pretty mind blowing" probably warrants investigation despite recommendations from people who have never tried it.
Oh... and the lower end device cannot choose this option:
Code:
9. 1000HP Super UnLedded{6,12,200,225,250,300}
Since it's designed for high end devices too, I prevent low end devices from going too over the top
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Whoa newer version then I have currently, thanks Zep. Hah I don't have that option.. haven't checked for a long while I guess. I'm gonna go try it, yay.
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Cool feel free to post your findings
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Ya... explain that to dual core Atrix users...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1257574&highlight=supercharger&page=221
Comments such as "it's pretty mind blowing" probably warrants investigation despite recommendations from people who have never tried it.
Oh... and the lower end device cannot choose this option:
Code:
9. 1000HP Super UnLedded{6,12,200,225,250,300}
Since it's designed for high end devices too, I prevent low end devices from going too over the top
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Ay smart guy they don't have a full gig of ram... You will not see any difference in performance on this device and thats why the EVo 3D didn't waste their time on it...
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Doesn't matter.
"Gurus" always say the same thing... last time it was that it won't do anything on a device with 512MB of ram...
How much ram does a SGS II have, smart guy?
Actually, seems the specs are close to this device... so here you go...
Android Spin article... author is using the SGS II
http://androidspin.com/2011/11/02/v6-supercharger-the-android-memory-fixer/
Bookmark it so you can read it whenever your phone lags
It's nice to see that people still don't get the concept of "work smarter, not harder" because it makes it easier for those that do work smarter to get ahead.
My settings don't "stick" after a reboot, and the help file is blank, 0 bytes.
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Did you run the latest update 9 RC3.2?
If not, use that.
Pretty sure that problem doesn't happen anymore with the newest versions.
no, I was using version 8, but I'll give the new one a try. thanks for the reply
Ok cool... there are alot more options so if you're unsure about what an option does, just select it and it will give an explanation before it does anything.
I don't really have a computer. My phone IS my computer. How do I root this thing and install CWM without a computer?
By the way, my atrix has over 1,000 more quadrant scores than the note, WTF?! ? I THOUGHT THIS WAS Samsung's fastest device? This is F-- ing pathetic. My atrix came out before the iPhone 4 over a year and a half ago.. I just got ripped off.... only 2700 quadrant, are you kidding me??
We don't have CWM available yet to us. We do have a modified 3e recovery, which is flashable via Odin. Unfortunately, you need a computer to install the recovery and OC/root kernel.
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We don't have CWM available yet to us. We do have a modified 3e recovery, which is flashable via Odin. Unfortunately, you need a computer to install the recovery and OC/root kernel.
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Lame. This phone is so slow
First, the bootloader on this phone is not locked. Secondly, its a fast phone. My scores were higher than that even before I installed the root/oc kernel.
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First, the bootloader on this phone is not locked. Secondly, its a fast phone. My scores were higher than that even before I installed the root/oc kernel.
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That was the old quadrant probably then. On the old quadrant, my atrix got 5300+ easily. On the new one it gets like 4,000. This thing gets like 2700. What a bunch of crap. The FIRST dual core phone ever made is faster than my new $700 phone.... lawl.
Wtf happened to technology doubling every year and a half? Its supposed to get faster, not slower...
c0reyl said:
Lame. This phone is so slow
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so you should return it and go back to your atrix if it was so bad ass
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so you should return it and go back to your atrix if it was so bad ass
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+1
Stole the words right from my fingers...lol.
Be a little patient. Once the devs have a little more time with this device cooking up some roms and tweaks for it.
If all you are concerned with is your quadrant score you will be disappointed. On all the devices I have had the smoothest and fastest roms had slow quadrant scores.
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phillyrican said:
so you should return it and go back to your atrix if it was so bad ass
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I got this phone for the screen and LTE. I can get past 50mbit speeds in DC.
c0reyl said:
I got this phone for the screen and LTE. I can get past 50mbit speeds in DC.
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So then why are you measuring and complaining about quadrant scores....seems the phone is doing what you wanted it to do
Quadrant scores isn't the truth I've noticed this phone is a lot smoother then the atrix and is super fast no lag
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I don't know how long you've used the atrix, you would notice that no matter which ROM you use, you'll find there's some lag. I've been using this phone for not even 24 hours yet and its noticeably faster than the atrix.
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I don't know how long you've used the atrix, you would notice that no matter which ROM you use, you'll find there's some lag. I've been using this phone for not even 24 hours yet and its noticeably faster than the atrix.
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I had 3d cube transitions everywhere in my interface. Clocked at 1450mhz I had no lag at all. On ICS 4.0.3, it didn't even lag at stock clocks with the heavy interface. Games NEVER LAGGED on the Atrix, even underclocked to 800mhz.
Oh, and ive been using it for a year and a half. The atrix came out before the iphone 4.
Clearly you're not happy with your purchase. Just go back to the atrix. Seems pretty simple to me.
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Clearly you're not happy with your purchase. Just go back to the atrix. Seems pretty simple to me.
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An idiot would say that. I love my Note. I sold my atrrix for $150 and bought Alpine door speakers already for my car from that. I'm extremely happy with that.
What I'm pissed off about is that technology isn't getting any better as fast as it should. Moors law is dead.
Well...I wish you and your unrealistic expectations the best going forward, sir.
But just in case, here you go...
www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_..._nkw=motorola+atrix&_sacat=See-All-Categories
First off I would like to say I love my DNA from a hardware point of view. Everything about this phone's hardware is awesome. Secondly I don't mind sense. The problem comes in when Verizon gets in involved. With this being a Verizon only device Verizon has almost complete control. I want an unlock able bootloader and SD card slot, Google wallet and the other features Verizon left out form the J Butterfly. Because of this I may, still a possibility, sell this phone for either the M7 or the Samsung s4 depending on their specs. The main reason is these phones will be multi carrier devices with much more likely hood to receive updates and dev... Otherwise the DNA would be a perfect phone.
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I'm kinda in the same boat. I'm really considering selling this and getting the moto x phone when it comes out.
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The X phone and the S4 sound tasty.
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The X phone and the S4 sound tasty.
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you guys are funny.
M7 99% isn't going to be unlockable on ATT or VZW without exploit. And if you import it, likely won't support all the bands we need.
Wanna place bets on the X phone being locked down?
Sorry verizon snuck into your home in the middle of the night and took away your sd card slot and google wallet. My phone happened to ship that way, so I don't mind as much.
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you guys are funny.
M7 99% isn't going to be unlockable on ATT or VZW without exploit. And if you import it, likely won't support all the bands we need.
Wanna place bets on the X phone being locked down?
Sorry verizon snuck into your home in the middle of the night and took away your sd card slot and google wallet. My phone happened to ship that way, so I don't mind as much.
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So I'm not allowed to upgrade to the newest thing according to you...
I was fully aware of the flaws of the DNA when I bought it and still love it, but I am also able to upgrade to a newer and better device when it comes out.
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So I'm not allowed to upgrade to the newest thing according to you...
I was fully aware of the flaws of the DNA when I bought it and still love it, but I am also able to upgrade to a newer and better device when it comes out.
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No, you're not allowed. you must continue to use the DNA
Seriously, though, being "locked down" is a pretty lame reason considering you'll likely still face that. And, if you don't switch carriers, you likely won't get wallet either.
And outside of probably having more storage, what do those phones have that the DNA doesn't? M7 is downgrade from DNA imo.
I cam from the Razr Maxx so this phone is amazing in comparsion. I do miss the battery life but i can still so far get through a day no problem. Now the storage is where i want to jump ship.
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No, you're not allowed. you must continue to use the DNA
Seriously, though, being "locked down" is a pretty lame reason considering you'll likely still face that. And, if you don't switch carriers, you likely won't get wallet either.
And outside of probably having more storage, what do those phones have that the DNA doesn't? M7 is downgrade from DNA imo.
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I don't want a m7. But even that will have a better camera and better screen, albeit slightly smaller.
But as far as the s4 and x phone. Better screen, better camera, better processor, better battery, and as you said, more storage.
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I don't want a m7. But even that will have a better camera and better screen, albeit slightly smaller.
But as far as the s4 and x phone. Better screen, better camera, better processor, better battery, and as you said, more storage.
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better screen, processor, and battery? Not arguing, but link me please. Didn't know better screens and processors existed yet.
beaups said:
better screen, processor, and battery? Not arguing, but link me please. Didn't know better screens and processors existed yet.
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Well there are solux screens, which the m7 is supposed to have, and will become standard soon.
The s4 should come with their octa core processor, and the x phone will likely have one if the next gen processors announced last month at ces.
I don't feel like finding links for all of that, but a quick Google search will give you all the info on those things.
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Well there are solux screens, which the m7 is supposed to have, and will become standard soon.
The s4 should come with their octa core processor, and the x phone will likely have one if the next gen processors announced last month at ces.
I don't feel like finding links for all of that, but a quick Google search will give you all the info on those things.
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I think solux is just more marketing nonsense. Anyhow, 4.7" screen I'd actually prefer. I am keeping my eyes out for that one. I miss the size of my oneX
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Well there are solux screens, which the m7 is supposed to have, and will become standard soon.
The s4 should come with their octa core processor, and the x phone will likely have one if the next gen processors announced last month at ces.
I don't feel like finding links for all of that, but a quick Google search will give you all the info on those things.
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The octa core processor is going to be useless. The industry hasnt even fully embraced quad core yet. Octa core is going to be a waste of battery and is just there for bragging rights.
Give me one reason why you need one in a phone being made RIGHT now. There isnt any logical reason unless you think benchmarks mean everything.
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The octa core processor is going to be useless. The industry hasnt even fully embraced quad core yet. Octa core is going to be a waste of battery and is just there for bragging rights.
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No, how it works is that there are 4 super powerful cores and 4 low power cores. When it is not under stress it uses the low power cores but when it needs power it goes to the powerful cores. It actually offers up to 70% savings on batteries.
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No, how it works is that there are 4 super powerful cores and 4 low power cores. When it is not under stress it uses the low power cores but when it needs power it goes to the powerful cores. It actually offers up to 70% savings on batteries.
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Not sure how a cpu offers 70% battery savings when it never is responsible for 70% of the total battery usage in the first place.
Reminds me of the stuff intel says.
I suppose time will tell.
At any rate, my initial retort was for the op. "no wallet", "no unlock", etc.
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Not sure how a cpu offers 70% battery savings when it never is responsible for 70% of the total battery usage in the first place.
Reminds me of the stuff intel says.
I suppose time will tell.
At any rate, my initial retort was for the op. "no wallet", "no unlock", etc.
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70% less battery consumption by the cpu. Not total battery life.
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70% less battery consumption by the cpu. Not total battery life.
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Ah, I made the mistake of reading the words you typed should be an exciting year for phones.
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No, how it works is that there are 4 super powerful cores and 4 low power cores. When it is not under stress it uses the low power cores but when it needs power it goes to the powerful cores. It actually offers up to 70% savings on batteries.
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I don't think a octa core processor is going to be much useful. Most apps don't even use the quad cores on the newer phones. As for 70% less battery usage, we'll see about that haha...
The only problem i foresee having with the DNA is the 5'' screen...My hands aren't that big, and a 4.7'' would be nicer to have. I hope the M7 is awesome, and gets good development soon. CM mod + awesome phone = happy me
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I don't think a octa core processor is going to be much useful. Most apps don't even use the quad cores on the newer phones. As for 70% less battery usage, we'll see about that haha...
The only problem i foresee having with the DNA is the 5'' screen...My hands aren't that big, and a 4.7'' would be nicer to have. I hope the M7 is awesome, and gets good development soon. CM mod + awesome phone = happy me
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Again, its not 8 core in the fact that 8 full power cores are running, there are 4 high power/performance cores to do intensive tasks, then there are 4 low power cores which save lots of energy compared to current quad core processors. These 4 cores are what are used most of the time, they will handle simple tasks. Here's a good quote.
"Something like mapping data would be handled by the "little" processor, while graphic-intensive gaming would switch over to the "big" guys."
So what this means for the end user is higher performance for tasks that need it, but overall lower power consumption and better battery life. That isn't propaganda or a guess, it is a fact.
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So what this means for the end user is higher performance for tasks that need it, but overall lower power consumption and better battery life. That isn't propaganda or a guess, it is a fact.
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This is going to be a complicated configuration, will be interesting to see how it performs when it's released. I can only imagine the mpdecision and governor complications when we start introducing switching from slower processors to faster processors mid thread.
The reality is, when I use applications like "maps", most of the time 3 of the 4 cores are totally offline, and the core in use is ramping as needed. I can't yet dispute the benefits of running said application on a slower CPU, but it seems pretty counter-intuitive to the "go fast and sleep" mentality that has been a pillar behind cpu power improvements for years and years.
Time will tell.
One thing is for sure, we can hardly state "facts" when the item doesn't even exist yet. Until then, it absolutely is "speculation" and/or "a guess".
I'm not sure where everyone is hearing that Verizon is getting the M7 on launch. Last I heard, this is T-Mobile, AT&T, and Sprint on launch.