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So I've been wondering does keeping it oc at 1.2ghz damage anything to the phone? I've read that it can kill your device lifespan is that true? Thanks
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If your device can't handle it... Yes
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hey rider...what you mean by that ..like when it hard freezes or what ?
I assume the vibrant can handle the 1.2ghz with ease?
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hey rider...what you mean by that ..like when it hard freezes or what ?
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I assume the vibrant can handle the 1.2ghz with ease?
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Not exactly.
Some of the Vibrants just can't handle ANY overclocking at all, they just freeze, and reboot too much because your processor is being worked too hard when it can't do it.
If you have a normal, regular vibrant, then yeah you can such as me, i can overclock as much as i want, i've gone to 1.4 with no problems...
but some people do have the problem, and having that can burn the plastic in your phone (its happened to a few over the year)
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Not exactly.
Some of the Vibrants just can't handle ANY overclocking at all, they just freeze, and reboot too much because your processor is being worked too hard when it can't do it.
If you have a normal, regular vibrant, then yeah you can such as me, i can overclock as much as i want, i've gone to 1.4 with no problems...
but some people do have the problem, and having that can burn the plastic in your phone (its happened to a few over the year)
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Yep.
Mine can run at 1.4 EASY with no heating up at all (I was surprised).
I wish there was a 1.6+ kernel, so I could push this processor to the max.
To understand the limits of the Vibrant's processor it's important to understand processors in general.
The process of manufacturing for a processor is not perfect. You get pristine chips and below standard chips; so essentially no two processors are the same just like fingerprints. So what they do for quality control is stress test each one individually within a specific range. If it can handle 1Ghz up to 1.x then it passes, if it can't hit 1Ghz minimum then it's destroyed/recycled (or whatever numbers Samsung in this case felt were reasonable). It's the only way to ensure every device functions the same.
Now translate that into people's individual phone. In essence it's the luck of the draw. Did you get the perfect manufactured chip? Only way to tell is to over clock it and stress test it. Some people get the perfect one, and others get the ones that barely made the cut. It works the same for all electronics.
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Hi guys, im going back to android (had a G1 a year ago) from blackberry (got tired) and im getting two good offers on these phones, but since these smartphones are SO different to what i used to have (G1 xD), im kinda confused wich one is better, so i want you guys to help me out here, wich is one should i get? Vibrant or myTouch 4G?
Internet speed its not important since i don't live in a 4G area (in fact, there isn't any 4G coverage at all in my country), but i like to play games and stuff like that. I like my phone to be fast and with very little lag. I have read on internet that Samsung's Hummingbird processor its better than the Snapdragon proccesor that the myTouch 4G have, but, i don't know why, i keep reading on forums that the myTouch 4G is faster than the Vibrant...how is that possible? The Vibrant have more RAM, ROM (16GB Internal, the myTouch have only 4GB), faster proccesor, better GPU...well, im a little confused there too.
Any opinions?
Mytouch 4G. It has way more features and has a bigger community of devs.
Camera with FLASH! Trackpad. Front Camera. Metallic build quality.
With both phones stock, the HTC has 700+ mb of ram available and the Vibrant has only 304+ available. The other issue is file systems. The HTC uses I think ext4 and the Vibrant uses its home grown system of RFS. I feel the RFS system is probable the biggest issue to slow the phone down. I have mine rooted with custom rom that uses ext4 (voodoo) and it is faster with much better battery life then all the stock MT4G's that I have seen. If you are not going to root anything then I would recommend the MT4G or even look at the G2x. But the screen on the vibrant is killer
myTouch4G has 768mb ram, Vibrant has 512mb (about 330mb is available for Android to use, depending on the rom).
I'd say the MSM8255 Snapdragon is probably on-par with the Hummingbird in the SGS - the SGS does have a much better GPU for 3D gaming, though.
The Vibrant may have a 16gb ROM, but only 2gb is available for app storage, the rest is treated as an internal SD card.
They would both be great phones, but the Vibrant has the better screen.
I have a vibrant and my wife has a mt4g. I would say if youre going to root and flash roms get the vibrant, but if youre going to leave it stock get the mt4g. Both phones were laggy stock to me. Im much happier with the dev community for the vibrant though. I've flashed 6 or 7 different roms on the mt4g (including cm7) but none of them seem as complete as bionix or trigger
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Ok, i forgot to say this, but im TOTALLY going to root the phone. In fact, is one of the mains reasons that im comming back to android (and here plays the song "Im comming home" by Dirty Money ), i love flashing roms, looking for bugs in new roms, the excitement of someone releasing a new rom (like Cyanogen), trying out weird apps in the market place and all that kind of stuff, i DON'T like stock phones at all...i installed OS6 on my Blackberry 9300 as soon as i got it, looking for something different (running away from stock), still was a pretty boring phone tough.
You have told me guys that both phones stock, the MT4G its faster, but what about both phones rooted? Should i get the Vibrant? Or even both phones rooted, the myTouch its still better?
EDIT: Also, are the Samsung Vibrant and the Samsung Captivate the exact same device? Under the hood, of course.
Tmobile g2
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Thanks for your input.
Anyone else?
Both rooted running custom roms with no overclock my vibrant and my wifes mt4g scored within 6 points of each other on quandrant. I'd say it come down the ffc if that's important to you or super amoled screen (more important to me)
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Both rooted running custom roms with no overclock my vibrant and my wifes mt4g scored within 6 points of each other on quandrant. I'd say it come down the ffc if that's important to you or super amoled screen (more important to me)
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FFC? Whats that? Sorry for the noobie question...
EDIT: Nevermind, just guessed what it is...Front Face Camera, right?
Hm, if i guessed right, then having a FFC its not important to me, i don't like video calls.
Any more inputs?
do you use your phone as a media player? if yes get the vibrant.
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do you use your phone as a media player? if yes get the vibrant.
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Thats a yes for sure. Every single moment im alone, in the bus or something alike. im listening to music.
Anyone else?
Well, I absolutely love my vibrant. Plenty fast (q score 1600+), amoled screen rules, and camera takes amazing pix. Flash isn't an issue since I don't really take pix in the dark lol.
It has less ram, but its near impossible to hard brick from what I've read. I'd say go vibrant, and if you don't like it, flash back to stock and exchange for the mt4g.
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Well, I absolutely love my vibrant. Plenty fast (q score 1600+), amoled screen rules, and camera takes amazing pix. Flash isn't an issue since I don't really take pix in the dark lol.
It has less ram, but its near impossible to hard brick from what I've read. I'd say go vibrant, and if you don't like it, flash back to stock and exchange for the mt4g.
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My problem its that im buying it second hand, so its not as easy as i"f i dont like it, i just take it back..." So thats why i have to make the right choice, because oncei buy the phone, its going to be difficult to sell it again.
Well, I'd say that if you don't have 4g coverage, why buy a 4g phone. Its like buying a Ferrari when you live in Poland. Maybe not as expensive, but you can't take full advantage of it. Lol.
Do you have any questions about the phone itself? Not spec wise?
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Vibrant all the way, I'm telling you its a wonderful phone. Samsung captivate and the Samsung vibrant are exactly the same under the hood.
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Vibrant all the way, I'm telling you its a wonderful phone. Samsung captivate and the Samsung vibrant are exactly the same under the hood.
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Amen to that.
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If you are into gaming, then vibrant hands down. Here are the things I would take into consideration.
1. Bigger dev community for the mytouch4g. I think most of the people with the vibrant will be leaving for the Sensation or the galaxy 2 if they have the funds. I am going with the galaxy S 2 myself. With that being said the development will dwindle down to nothing by the end of the summer.
2. There are great roms for the vibrant right now. Trigger, Bionix, and a bunch of stable 2.2.1 roms to choose from.
3. I don't know if a stable cm7 will ever happen for the vibrant. They have it working ok. Plenty of bugs, and bad battery. Also no 2.3 rom has working gps because of drivers. You will have to wait on a leaked 2.3 rom for the vibrant I think.
I love my vibrant for gaming. I have about 5 Gameloft games.. bogo for $2.99 . Can't beat that. And the phone handles them beautifully. I am running Trigger btw, just because I wanted a stable rom until I get the galaxy 2 .
I hope this helps with your decision, I know I rambled a bit. But I think i covered everything on the development side for you.
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Cm7 runs fine for me. However, I don't use GPS so it suits my needs. Runs fast needs daily charge, but meh, that's what sleep is for lol
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On top of what everyone else said, Voodoo sound on the vibrant makes listening to music through the 3.5 mm jack a dream. I can't go back now. It's just too good.
Tell us your biggest problem you have with the tmobile galaxy s vibrant.
how would you change it?
Samsung/T-Mobile support an easy to break USB ports that's all overall excellent phone
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The USB port that's basically it. Also battery life sucks for me as well.
This phone was pretty well built other than the GPS sucking, but I don't use it that much nor do I actually have big problems like others.
We also need more love from Samsung so we can get a Gingerbread leak going
wonder why the usb ports dont last in these. maybe location?
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wonder why the usb ports dont last in these. maybe location?
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Cuz before we use to plug in the phones just to charge them. Now every time you log in to XDA (or your favorite Devs. forum) there is some new **** you wanna install in your phone....plug-unplug...oh I just found this new cool wallpaper...plug-unplug...new ROM...plug-unplug...new kernel...plug-unplug...new (you get the point). You probably plug-unplug your phone 10 times during the course of one day. Back then it was just once every 2-3 days to charge. Don't say they make them cheaper now, they just get abused now.
...Oh yeah, almost forgot. My biggest problem (besides not getting GB for the Vibrant) is that when I wanna take a picture in a dark place I noticed I'm missing that little small LED light that shines when you take a picture which most new phones comes with....what is it called???...oh yeah is a ****ING FLASH SAMSUNG! WTF what is a roll of the dice? "OK lets see which of the new Galaxy S devices is NOT getting a flash just for the **** of it...roll it"...OR.... "Sir, sir we forgot to put a flash on the one going out for t-mobile"...." **** them I have Verizon anyways, keep going"
**** lack of proper gps, **** bad usb (actually mine is alright so idk) but goddammit! Why the **** doesn't this have flash?
there isn't even a logical answer to that.
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Gps is basically it... my biggest problem with my galaxy S is the lack of a II next to the name. Honestly, i just feel crappy that i dont have the best phone on the market.
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Gps is basically it... my biggest problem with my galaxy S is the lack of a II next to the name. Honestly, i just feel crappy that i dont have the best phone on the market.
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At least at one point you did
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hahahaha yea we do need flash. good response
One other thing not really problem but what is up with the hump I know yea can find smaller antenna oh yea an speaker on back so when lay phone down volume is lower plz put somewhere else but I doubt that will happen
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i dont really have any problems actually just weak wifi but thats not a big problem im still loving this phone
ffc was obviously planned then removed, maybe they planned to release a second version with it all along.... kind of weasel-ish if you ask me
"omg new phone! it has what we took out of the first one!"
My only problem is getting the gps to work. If I manage to get it to work flawlessly, I'd be happy. As for battery life, I've found the ROMs that do give me the best battery life.
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Flash and FFC, seriously what the frack T-Mo?!! Why would you take the best phone on the market (at the time) and ****ING CRIPPLE IT!!!
GPS was **** at first and still isn't the best but it works well enough for me after all the software fixed and I've never had a problem with the USB port. Knock on wood.
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One other thing not really problem but what is up with the hump I know yea can find smaller antenna oh yea an speaker on back so when lay phone down volume is lower plz put somewhere else but I doubt that will happen
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dude i love the hump, its sexy
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dude i love the hump, its sexy
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I'm not gonna lie it kind of is now that I really look at it lol but I would love a flat slim phone but it makes our phone unique
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Instability with dungeon defenders and plants vs. zombies. Gps. That's about it. Great phone. Great ROM available. Actually, using biffmod rom fixed gps and pvz issues. Now it's just dungeon defenders.
Small gripe, looks so much like an Iphone.
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Well..they are not giving us updates at correct times.
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For me the flash and gps could be better.
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Anybody feel their amaze getting really really warm, almost hot? Kinda makes me not wanna use my phone a lot just because the heat might mess it up.
This happens around 15 mins of usage.
I haven't had that issue even under heavy use like games, videos, and web.
It may be an app or apps constantly running. Do you check your task manager often? U may have to kill some apps. Also is it charging when you use the phone? I know it gets hot quickly that way.
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Really depends on what's running. When you first initialize the phone it's going to get hot as it syncs and updates everything but that should pass. If you have location enabled and use the gps, it will get hot, if you use maps and the screen is on, it will get hot...just check it for whats running and delete whats unnecessary. Of course I'm waiting for the root to really delete the crapware.
My amaze has been overheating it feel's like it's on fire randomly sometimes , even when im not on apps .
Mine gets really hot too.. not quite but almost too hot to touch. It's not even plugged in when it happens and its just from playing music it charging.. no heavy usage. Hopefully it'll disappear once we get some roms with no bloatware!
Yeah I experience overheating last night. This is by far the worst ive come accross on any phone. I may go to t mobile and look at the galaxy s2. I love this phone but too many problems for me
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Yeah I experience overheating last night. This is by far the worst ive come accross on any phone. I may go to t mobile and look at the galaxy s2. I love this phone but too many problems for me
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I can honestly say that there is no overheating issue with the GS2. I even have this phone plugged into the charger while browsing the internet and the phone is not overheating.
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I can honestly say that there is no overheating issue with the GS2. I even have this phone plugged into the charger while browsing the internet and the phone is not overheating.
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Thats exactly what i experienced using my amaze. Charging and using it i have no overheating issues. I guess its just the luck of the draw with these two phones. No phone is perfect though and i think both these devices have great features and potential.
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Thats exactly what i experienced using my amaze. Charging and using it i have no overheating issues. I guess its just the luck of the draw with these two phones. No phone is perfect though and i think both these devices have great features and potential.
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Yeah, both phones are great. Its just with finding the right fit for you. I chose GS2 because I figured we would have a larger dev community, its lighter because of its plastic design and Super Amoled+. The downside of this phone is its resolution, but I don't notice it that much for it to be a big con. I heard some people actually rather the hefty-ness of the Amaze. I'm not gonna lie I love the design quality of it. HTC is always known for gorgeous designs.
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Exactly. Finding the right fit for "you" is correct. I came from a vibrant and didnt wanna deal with twiz anymore. I had my ups and down with that phone and i figured i'd give htc a try since i had samsung already. Tbh im happy with the amaze and i know u happy with your sgs2
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Exactly. Finding the right fit for "you" is correct. I came from a vibrant and didnt wanna deal with twiz anymore. I had my ups and down with that phone and i figured i'd give htc a try since i had samsung already. Tbh im happy with the amaze and i know u happy with your sgs2
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Definitely happy with my purchase. This phone fits my exact needs. I'm surprised that your not getting overheating issues though. Most of my HTC phones with metal built in or around them had overheating issues after a few minutes of operating them.
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Im actually suprised also. Smart phones do get warm when using alot but i might have got lucky because im constantly plugged in and doing something on this phone. My phone hasnt been above 98 degrees f yet. And thats while cruising the net or playing eternity warriors. I dont have any hd games yet so i'll test again when they become available to see if the phone gets real hot.
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Im actually suprised also. Smart phones do get warm when using alot but i might have got lucky because im constantly plugged in and doing something on this phone. My phone hasnt been above 98 degrees f yet. And thats while cruising the net or playing eternity warriors. I dont have any hd games yet so i'll test again when they become available to see if the phone gets real hot.
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I guess you definitely one of the lucky few cause my myTouch 4g, G2, Nexus One, HD2 and Sensation all heated up. I know all phones heat up when in use, but the GS2 won't even get hot on the charger while in use and to me that's amazing. I'm glad you enjoy your phone and your not experiencing such issues.
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I guess you definitely one of the lucky few cause my myTouch 4g, G2, Nexus One, HD2 and Sensation all heated up. I know all phones heat up when in use, but the GS2 won't even get hot on the charger while in use and to me that's amazing. I'm glad you enjoy your phone and your not experiencing such issues.
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you also have to remember 2 things though.... 1) the unibody designs always conduct the heat to the outside of the phone, although its operating at the same temp of most phones, the reason you notice it with the newer htc models is cause you can actually feel the heat cause of the unibody... 2) the sammys are all plastic, which doesnt conduct heat too well, so although its getting hot inside, you dont feel it. they both prob run at close if not the same temps, but you can just notice it more on the htc... thats all.
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you also have to remember 2 things though.... 10 the unibody designs always conduct the heat to the outside of the phone, although its operating at the same temp of most phones, the reason you notice it with the newer htc models is cause you can actually feel the heat cause of the unibody... 2) the sammys are all plastic, which doesnt conduct heat too well, so although its getting hot inside, you dont feel it. they both prob run at close if not the same temps, but you can just notice it more on the htc... thats all.
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That is definitely understandable. If I have to sacrifice design just so I can be able to hold/use my phone comfortably then you know exactly where I'm headed.
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That is definitely understandable. If I have to sacrifice design just so I can be able to hold/use my phone comfortably then you know exactly where I'm headed.
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mine doesnt get that hot at all. my sensation did, i would go as far as to maybe say its gets warm... definitely not hot... whoever says its almost too hot to touch is either exaggerating or has no skin on their damn hands. lol.
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mine doesnt get that hot at all. my sensation did, i would go as far as to maybe say its gets warm... definitely not hot... whoever says its almost too hot to touch is either exaggerating or has no skin on their damn hands. lol.
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Lol. Maybe its either a female or a child who is the one complaining about the "severe" overheating.
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My Amaze IS PERFECT NO LIGHT BLEEDING... BLURY PHOTOS... NO RANDOM REBOOTS AND NO OVERHEATING
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Phone became too hot to hold while on a 30 minute Tango call.
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I don't really have a computer. My phone IS my computer. How do I root this thing and install CWM without a computer?
By the way, my atrix has over 1,000 more quadrant scores than the note, WTF?! ? I THOUGHT THIS WAS Samsung's fastest device? This is F-- ing pathetic. My atrix came out before the iPhone 4 over a year and a half ago.. I just got ripped off.... only 2700 quadrant, are you kidding me??
We don't have CWM available yet to us. We do have a modified 3e recovery, which is flashable via Odin. Unfortunately, you need a computer to install the recovery and OC/root kernel.
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We don't have CWM available yet to us. We do have a modified 3e recovery, which is flashable via Odin. Unfortunately, you need a computer to install the recovery and OC/root kernel.
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Lame. This phone is so slow
First, the bootloader on this phone is not locked. Secondly, its a fast phone. My scores were higher than that even before I installed the root/oc kernel.
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First, the bootloader on this phone is not locked. Secondly, its a fast phone. My scores were higher than that even before I installed the root/oc kernel.
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That was the old quadrant probably then. On the old quadrant, my atrix got 5300+ easily. On the new one it gets like 4,000. This thing gets like 2700. What a bunch of crap. The FIRST dual core phone ever made is faster than my new $700 phone.... lawl.
Wtf happened to technology doubling every year and a half? Its supposed to get faster, not slower...
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so you should return it and go back to your atrix if it was so bad ass
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so you should return it and go back to your atrix if it was so bad ass
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Stole the words right from my fingers...lol.
Be a little patient. Once the devs have a little more time with this device cooking up some roms and tweaks for it.
If all you are concerned with is your quadrant score you will be disappointed. On all the devices I have had the smoothest and fastest roms had slow quadrant scores.
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so you should return it and go back to your atrix if it was so bad ass
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I got this phone for the screen and LTE. I can get past 50mbit speeds in DC.
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I got this phone for the screen and LTE. I can get past 50mbit speeds in DC.
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So then why are you measuring and complaining about quadrant scores....seems the phone is doing what you wanted it to do
Quadrant scores isn't the truth I've noticed this phone is a lot smoother then the atrix and is super fast no lag
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I don't know how long you've used the atrix, you would notice that no matter which ROM you use, you'll find there's some lag. I've been using this phone for not even 24 hours yet and its noticeably faster than the atrix.
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I don't know how long you've used the atrix, you would notice that no matter which ROM you use, you'll find there's some lag. I've been using this phone for not even 24 hours yet and its noticeably faster than the atrix.
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I had 3d cube transitions everywhere in my interface. Clocked at 1450mhz I had no lag at all. On ICS 4.0.3, it didn't even lag at stock clocks with the heavy interface. Games NEVER LAGGED on the Atrix, even underclocked to 800mhz.
Oh, and ive been using it for a year and a half. The atrix came out before the iphone 4.
Clearly you're not happy with your purchase. Just go back to the atrix. Seems pretty simple to me.
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Clearly you're not happy with your purchase. Just go back to the atrix. Seems pretty simple to me.
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An idiot would say that. I love my Note. I sold my atrrix for $150 and bought Alpine door speakers already for my car from that. I'm extremely happy with that.
What I'm pissed off about is that technology isn't getting any better as fast as it should. Moors law is dead.
Well...I wish you and your unrealistic expectations the best going forward, sir.
But just in case, here you go...
www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_..._nkw=motorola+atrix&_sacat=See-All-Categories