Any reason to wipe the Battery Stats? - Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I see alot of people are doing this after flashing Das Bamf
I did after installing 1.3, and it just seemed to make my battery drop like crazy, and then at times, not drop at all. I just installed 1.3.1. so should i do a battery stat wipe? what purpose would this serve?

I am not sure the "best practice" on wiping battery stats. I was always under the impression that you should charge to 100%, wipe stats, and then leave on charger until the battery is at 100%.
Not sure if it is best to then do a complete discharge cycle before putting the device back on the charger. I really do not know what the battery stats includes. I always thought it contained battery calibration data.

I'd really like to know this as well.
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bmcclure937 said:
I am not sure the "best practice" on wiping battery stats. I was always under the impression that you should charge to 100%, wipe stats, and then leave on charger until the battery is at 100%.
Not sure if it is best to then do a complete discharge cycle before putting the device back on the charger. I really do not know what the battery stats includes. I always thought it contained battery calibration data.
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I think thats what it contains as well, however should i be plugged in while wiping? I always go to the battery stat menu in CWM, then right before i hit Yes, i unplug

I also read the same the thread (got the same rumor), after two battery wipes and fresh rom flashes (from 100%), in either case (on both VIRUS and BAMF) my battery mysteriously goes back to 86%. I can charge it back to 100% again but kinda thinking I shouldn't of wiped it. That or I'm doing it wrong.

DNak206 said:
I also read the same the thread (got the same rumor), after two battery wipes and fresh rom flashes (from 100%), in either case (on both VIRUS and BAMF) my battery mysteriously goes back to 86%. I can charge it back to 100% again but kinda thinking I shouldn't of wiped it. That or I'm doing it wrong.
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Mine does the same thing!! Well, 87%, lol i think maybe our phones are saying 100 when in reality its 86 or 87? also got to keep in mind that rebooting afterwards drains battery like crazy.

Try "bumping" the battery, search battery bump to see the steps, mine use to do the same thing, from 100 to 93 after reboot, now stays in 100.
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Or check this out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1018813
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Or Go To The market and download an app called "Battery Doctor " helped me
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[Q] Battery Bizarreness

Yesterday, I let my battery die. Charged it last night, and wiped battery states. Ran the phone like normal today. Was down to about 30% left, rebooted. When everything came back up and running, that battery showed to be 5%. WTF!!! How do I drop 25%, just by rebooting?!?!?!?
chadhoard said:
Yesterday, I let my battery die. Charged it last night, and wiped battery states. Ran the phone like normal today. Was down to about 30% left, rebooted. When everything came back up and running, that battery showed to be 5%. WTF!!! How do I drop 25%, just by rebooting?!?!?!?
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Bad battery stats...
Recondition
xriderx66 said:
Bad battery stats...
Recondition
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So...I should wipe the battery stats again after re-charging to 100%?
Then wipe the battery stats in advanced of recovery mode
xriderx66 said:
Then wipe the battery stats in advanced of recovery mode
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I re-wiped the battery stat this morning. I was down to about 50% when I needed to reboot. When everything came back up, it showed I was down to 28%. Is this an indication that the battery needs to be replaced or should I try a different Kernel?
Either you have a bad battery, bad battery meter, or your not reconditioning right.
Longcat14 said:
Either you have a bad battery, bad battery meter, or your not reconditioning right.
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What would you suggest I try? What is the proper way to recondition my battery?
Charge to 100%
Boot into recovery
Wipe battery stats
Reboot
Don't unplug charger until at desktop again (You could debate this one, but that's when I do it)
And don't worry about killing your battery, it'll do more harm than good.
Explanation - When you wipe battery stats, it tells your phone you're at 100%
So, if you wipe when you ARE at 100% you'll get accurate readings.
Eogram said:
Charge to 100%
Boot into recovery
Wipe battery stats
Reboot
Don't unplug charger until at desktop again (You could debate this one, but that's when I do it)
And don't worry about killing your battery, it'll do more harm than good.
Explanation - When you wipe battery stats, it tells your phone you're at 100%
So, if you wipe when you ARE at 100% you'll get accurate readings.
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The past 2 times I did this, the phone was turned off and plugged in and charged over night. this morning I wiped the stat, but i do not remember if I had unplugged it before it finished booting up. I am charging it now, with it on. When it reaches 100%, should I reboot into recovery and wipe it or should I let it run all the way down?
What exactly do you mean by 'let it run all the way down'?
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Eogram said:
What exactly do you mean by 'let it run all the way down'?
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Down to say some were around 20 - 5%.
As far as I understand that shouldn't be necessary, and could weaken your battery.
As long as it's fully charged when you wipe the stats you should be good to go.
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Eogram said:
As far as I understand that shouldn't be necessary, and could weaken your battery.
As long as it's fully charged when you wipe the stats you should be good to go.
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I have another 20% to go. i will let you know tomorrow how things work out.
Eogram said:
As far as I understand that shouldn't be necessary, and could weaken your battery.
As long as it's fully charged when you wipe the stats you should be good to go.
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Ok...I have ran the phone like normal. Within 6 hours, I am down to 62%. I rebooted the phone, and it still shows me at 62%. At least I have that fixed.
Now, I see some people use OverStock and seem to be getting better battery life. I just want to get about 16+ hours out of my battery. Right now i seem to be pushing 12 hours. What is the tick that i am missing??
For every hundred vibrant users there seems to be a hundred different accounts of battery life, and a hindered different opinions on how to keep it down. 12 hours on the stock battery is pretty good, especially compared to stock.
Mine'll last me around 15+, if I left it not charging, i think.
I'm on overstock, the screen is at the dimmest 95% of the time, and I use setcpu. 1000/1000 with a screen off profile of 200/200. So, that works for me pretty well.
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You need to recondition yr battery as posted above, 2-4 cycles. But i prefer to re-flash ROM when battery 100%, should you get proper batt stats.
You may buy new one to test yr system n batt stats, also good for spare. Or just borrow yr friends battery, just to check yr rom n batt stats. Treat it like you did before.
Good luck.
Eogram said:
For every hundred vibrant users there seems to be a hundred different accounts of battery life, and a hindered different opinions on how to keep it down. 12 hours on the stock battery is pretty good, especially compared to stock.
Mine'll last me around 15+, if I left it not charging, i think.
I'm on overstock, the screen is at the dimmest 95% of the time, and I use setcpu. 1000/1000 with a screen off profile of 200/200. So, that works for me pretty well.
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200/200 conservative scaling and no sleep death? Didn't know that was possible on overstock...guess I'll try it.
Edit: sleep of death...you must be on power save or something which afaik doesn't work at all.
*checks*
Yeah, powersave. What's this about it not working? It occasionally lags a little when I unlock it and the widget definitely says 200
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I don't think powersave is supported...try conservative and you'll get sleep death due to the low frequency...you don't get this with powersave because I don't believe it's working...trying to confirm this.

[Q] when to wipe battery stats

should i wipe battery stats i switching from extend. battery to stock. or only when switching roms? when does this matter?
[Also i know this doesn't belong here but my PC is really slow do easiest way is to ask: is there someway to search all my posts at once as they're becoming hard to keep track of ?]
CleveRuse said:
should i wipe battery stats i switching from extend. battery to stock. or only when switching roms? when does this matter?
[Also i know this doesn't belong here but my PC is really slow do easiest way is to ask: is there someway to search all my posts at once as they're becoming hard to keep track of ?]
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I switched back to my stock battery after my extended died. I wiped battery stats, wiping stats when flashing new roms is recommended.
Wiping battery stats is never really considered an essential thing to do no matter what. It is nice though to do. I suggest it when you start realizing crap battery life on one ROM/kernel compared to the last one. The suggested way is to wipe it after installing a new kernel and as well as when you swap batteries. Other than that, really no need to in my eyes.
I wipe after every new ROM install, period.
ProTekk said:
The suggested way is to wipe it after installing a new kernel and as well as when you swap batteries. Other than that, really no need to in my eyes.
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This is when I do it also.
Digging up a thread here, didn't want to waste a new one.. But I have the OEM Extended Battery and I tried wiping my battery stats.. Charge full, reboot into recovery, wipe stats, unplug.. After this I noticed that my battery said 93% even tho the charge light was green.. I drained it until it turned off and charged again overnight.. In the AM, light was green, i turned phone on and its still showing 93% even though it was green. Any ideas? Did I lose that 7% forever?
Sometimes wiping the stats causes a bad battery read. A few reboots should get you back on track. If that doesn't work, try a full battery drain then a full charge. Let us know.
Will try that, even tho I kinda did already. I'm hoping with a few battery cycles the problem goes away.. What Im hoping is I don't need to bump charge now every time like I did when I had my inc
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drawde said:
Did I lose that 7% forever?
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I doubt you lost anything. It would be like Spinal Tap having an amp which only went to 9.
I only had to wipe when my battery wasn't decreasing in percentage. After I wiped, it started decreasing like it should. I would think any fast reduction in percentage would be a bad battery.
Are there any proven facts out there that it is really ever necessary to wipe them? It's not like it actually improves battery life am I correct?
as far as wiping battery stats goes.
i have only used it when reconditioning a battery.
ie if you start noticing bad (read: worse that you have been getting) battery life after flashing a new rom or kernel. or just after a time using a standard rom.
what i do is
1 turn the phone off.
2 charge it on AC until it goes green and for an hour afterward.
3 unplug it and wait 30 seconds.
4 plug it back in and repeat step 3 until the light goes from red to green within 20 or so seconds. (this is called bump charging)
5 boot into CWR and wipe battery stats. and let it burn all the way down until it wont even turn on (flashing orange led)
6 charge to full and enjoy your maybe improved battery life.
when wiping battery stats, do i have to do it a few times or no? i wiped battery stats at full and drained battery until it turned off twice.. once wiping the stats with CWR and once, and after a cycle, with the 'battery calibrate' app (made by someone here on xda i believe)..
seems to be working okay i guess, but lets say i have 94%, i reset my phone and it comes back with only 84%.. it appears it's still reading my battery wrong by around 10%. is this normal?
It doesn't happen at every reset, looks like just the first one of the day. I guess I can charge to full, reboot, and charge to full again as a workaround.
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i meant to ask this before but I forgot, can anyone try to do that and let me know if it happens to them too or if its just me
Charge with phone on until full then turn it off and charge.. about how long does it stay amber?
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Wiping Battery Stats

Hi Guys,
I know there's been a few threads on this, but a lot of them don't really answer what I'm about to ask.
I've noticed lately that my battery has been losing about 10% in the first half an hour, then goes down quite slowly which makes me think I need to wipe the battery stats. However a lot of people keep saying 'wipe battery stats' then fully drain, which seems like a ridiculous idea knowing what we know about how badly batteries react to full discharges (on a bad day you can actually knacker the battery), so what I'm asking is can I just wipe the battery stats at 100% without discharging. The user manual never said about fully discharging my phone when I first got it so why would I need to do it now? Also, this concept of bump charging, how would I do it on a Galaxy I9000
Thanks very much!
Breaking you battery through a full discharge? Never heard of that.
Check out these links:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Troubleshooting#Battery_recalibration
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=931639
Janzomaster said:
Breaking you battery through a full discharge? Never heard of that.
Check out these links:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Troubleshooting#Battery_recalibration
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=931639
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again though, a full discharge, is that wise?
You need to calibrate your battery. There is an app in the market..just search "battery calibration". Charge your phone to 100% then use the app to wipe the stats. Let your phone discharge. Full discharge is not necessary. Discharge to 1% then charge it back up to 100%. Good to go. If you don't want to use the app, you can wipe your battery stats in recovery which accomplishes the same thing.
When you drain your battery, your phone will not just stop working at some point, it will shut down your phone in an orderly fashion before you battery is fully depleted.
When I drain my battery and my phone shuts down because of it, I can still switch it on again and it will work for a minute or so after it has fully started before it will switch off again.
Could I not just wipe the stats and not fully discharge? Or does that achieve nothing. I'm pretty certain it's these battery stats. Today, it went down to 84% in seconds. I've noticed if I plug it in, it charges full, unplug, then plug in again, it starts at about 91% and does the rest. Sound like a battery stats issue?
skezza said:
Could I not just wipe the stats and not fully discharge? Or does that achieve nothing. I'm pretty certain it's these battery stats. Today, it went down to 84% in seconds. I've noticed if I plug it in, it charges full, unplug, then plug in again, it starts at about 91% and does the rest. Sound like a battery stats issue?
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When you charge, you phone says "charged" as soon as it hits 90%. Check the about-menu in settings (or in my case at least, the lock screen while plugged in) to see at what percentage you really are when your phone says it's charged.
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When you charge, you phone says "charged" as soon as it hits 90%. Check the about-menu in settings (or in my case at least, the lock screen while plugged in) to see at what percentage you really are when your phone says it's charged.
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Oh right I didn't realize that. I'll try it. I've just unplugged it and it immediately said 98% so I plugged back in. This time when I pull, I'm going to wipe the battery stats. I don't really want to discharge fully, because even at 1% it's not great for it. If anyone can state categorically that I shouldn't, tell me now please haha

Extended Battery calibration

Firstly, I apologize if this is a total annoyingly noobish post, but I've not encountered this issue before.
Currently when charging, my phone hangs at 99% for over an hour before hitting 100% charge. Additionally, when not charging, the phone will hang at 9% charge for longer than expected and rapidly deplete below 9%.
Info that may be pertain to the problem:
When I got my Rezound and the extended battery, the first thing I did was root the phone and flash Amon Ra.
I waited for the battery to fully charge, then I flashed CleanROM Kang Tapped Edition. I finished my general phone setup and app install stuff and had about 15% battery left (it was now about 8am, pulled an all-nighter.)
An hour later, I get a phone call and what amounted to literally 9 straight hours of phone talk time with only that small amount of battery left. I had to be plugged in pretty much the whole time and I think when I had under 10% battery when I finally got off the phone.
I have tried wiping battery stats after hitting full charge in Amon Ra as well as using the battery calibrator app. After I fully charged and cleared stats, I waited for the phone to deplete the battery before fully charging (I try to let it charge uninterrupted).
The issue still seems to behave exactly the same. Is it possible that I messed up the battery some by talking with low charge and plugged in for 9 hours?
Thanks in advance for any info or advice.
Try reflashing your ROM. I had the same issue with my phone. Assuming your rooted, try zep's battery calibrater script.
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keynith said:
Try reflashing your ROM. I had the same issue with my phone. Assuming your rooted, try zep's battery calibrater script.
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I am rooted. Looking inside the Die Hard Battery Calibrator script seems to just clear battery stats, which, I believe, happens when the phone is fully charged anyways.
I have been trying the app "Battery Calibration", which also clears battery stats.
There is also the option to wipe battery stats from Scott's tweaks, as well as Amon Ra.
I guess after all the conflicting viewpoints I've heard regarding battery stats, I'm about as confused as ever. I thought that battery stats merely stores data about the power usage, and doesn't actually affect how the OS reads the battery percentage. It boggles me that the OS wouldn't just know the battery voltage, and therefore the remaining charge. Unless batteries have varying voltage (like the Rez 3.7V battery vs the 3.8V battery), this should be more accurate than whatever the hell it is doing.
I'll give the script a shot, I'm just perplexed.
Anybody know of a widget that shows just the mV? Then I can forget about these darn percentages.
*EDIT* Battery Monitor Widget can do mV, among other things.
I wonder if I should try the HTC method contained in the link below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712990
Here is some word on battery stats from a Google employee:
https://plus.google.com/105051985738280261832/posts/FV3LVtdVxPT

battery percent is off!!

For some odd reason my battery icon shows 71%, but if I go to batt status it shows 62%. I flashed a diff batt mod and it changed to the new one, but it's still on 71%. Any ideas how I can make it show the correct status?
EVOme said:
For some odd reason my battery icon shows 71%, but if I go to batt status it shows 62%. I flashed a diff batt mod and it changed to the new one, but it's still on 71%. Any ideas how I can make it show the correct status?
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let the phone run till it dies and then charge it. that should reset the battery gauge.
Legacystar said:
let the phone run till it dies and then charge it. that should reset the battery gauge.
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Will try that....thanks!!!
Never let the battery drain to zero, it's bad for you battery. These aren't the old Ni-Cad batteries from the 80's but Lithium ion batteries If you want to reset the battery stats just download Battery Calibration from the play store. Charge phone to full and then hit Calibrate and it will reset your stats. Unless something is different with the GS4 or their TW OS any newly installed rom should have this done after installation
Here is info on what you should know about today's batteries.
http://batteryuniversity.com/
Eric214 said:
Never let the battery drain to zero, it's bad for you battery. These aren't the old Ni-Cad batteries from the 80's but Lithium ion batteries If you want to reset the battery stats just download Battery Calibration from the play store. Charge phone to full and then hit Calibrate and it will reset your stats. Unless something is different with the GS4 or their TW OS any newly installed rom should have this done after installation
Here is info on what you should know about today's batteries.
http://batteryuniversity.com/
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doing it constantly is bad, once will not effect it.
Eric214 said:
Never let the battery drain to zero, it's bad for you battery. These aren't the old Ni-Cad batteries from the 80's but Lithium ion batteries If you want to reset the battery stats just download Battery Calibration from the play store. Charge phone to full and then hit Calibrate and it will reset your stats. Unless something is different with the GS4 or their TW OS any newly installed rom should have this done after installation
Here is info on what you should know about today's batteries.
http://batteryuniversity.com/
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The statement about li-ion not being akin to ni-cad is correct. The rest is not.
No app is capable of battery calibration. The myth of wiping battery stats to calibrate the battery was clearly and concisely debunked a year and a half ago. Apps such as Battery Calibration ate pure snake oil, as they do not affect battery indication in any way, shape, or form. Additionally, there is absolutely no benefit to wiping battery stats after flashing a rom.
The fact of the matter, as verified by Battery University, is that a complete discharge/charge cycle is the only method of "calibration" available to an end user. By performing a single cycle, the charge and discharge flags are reset. Only a single cycle is needed and this is something that need be performed more than a few times a year, as it wail shorten the battery's serviceable lifespan.
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Ummm I said if you want to reset you stats not actually calibrate your battery. That app to clear stats is called Battery Calibrator. Never did i say calibrate battery
Eric214 said:
Ummm I said if you want to reset you stats not actually calibrate your battery. That app to clear stats is called Battery Calibrator. Never did i say calibrate battery
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There is a far easier way to clear battery stats. Charge to phone to full or near full, and then unplug it. Voila! Regardless, wiping battery stats is not going to do anything for the op.
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Well a friend of mine had the same issue with "stuck battery %" and that did the trick soooo just helping out with what worked for another is all. whatever
That actually didn't do the trick, as nothing relevant to reported charge is contained in the file that is wiped. While it may seem logical to ascribe the fix to a proximal act, it is actually a case of post hoc ergo propter hoc.
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There is a far easier way to clear battery stats. Charge to phone to full or near full, and then unplug it. Voila! Regardless, wiping battery stats is not going to do anything for the op.
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Neither did this. The battery calibrator app did nothing either. My phone is still showing a percent up top that is not what shows in settings/more/battery. More news, my phone showed this morning, after I unplugged it from all night charge, that it had been running on battery for 8 hours 2 minutes. The whole battery status is fubar somehow.
Just let the phone die, it works , and its easy
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Just let the phone die, it works , and its easy
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That's the only thing I haven't tried. Will do that today. Will report.
Didn't work. Gonna have to dirty flash the ROM.
My S4 (2 months old) dies with the battery at 20%. After reboot (plugged in) it still says 20%. Why does that happen? It should say 0%!
Update
It seems that the battery gives an incorrect fake voltage sometimes. To correct that I turned the camer flash on, using a flashlight utility, and after a few seconds I clicked the quick start button in the battery calibration utility you can access dialing *#0228#.
Now it show 11% that should almost be correct, and it's now charging. I am charging it in slow mode at 500mA just to give it a proper charge.
I'll update you as soon as I have results.
Second Update
Nothing. I think the battery is broken.
It dies at about 20%-30% and when the phone restarts, plugged in, it says it's 20%.

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