So, I've had a BGP100 for quite a few years, (Probably at least 5) tucked into a drawer.
I used to use it for my old Ipaq HX4700. As I remember, it was okay, but the emulators available were pretty slow and there was some noticeable lag between button presses. I pulled it out today to see if I could use it on my Touch Pro 2.
The results were... pretty bad. I can get my bluetooth stack to see it, however there don't seem to be any drivers. Supposedly, there are some official drivers and people keep suggesting that I use those, selecting the HTC Magician option on install. Unfortunately, the drivers seem to have disappeared. All I'm finding are broken links.
I then installed the GamepadHD2BlackPanther exe, designed for the HD2, but it crashes almost instantly. Finally, I installed the BGP100 software and that came the closest.
It works for about 2-5 minutes before loosing connection. It keeps popping up the "Bluetooth Serial Port" over and over again, asking me to reconnect. I have to exit all open programs and then restart bluetooth and then the BGP100 program. Then do it all over again in 2-5 minutes.
Anyone have a working solution for the Touch Pro 2?
Edit: and it won't let me post links, so I guess someone will have to read my mind.
Im about to buy one soon, just to try it on my TP2 (Tilt 2) but it seems to work on the playstation emulator just that the buttons are not pressure sensitive.
I was able to find a driver or program for the TP2 so the gamepad would work on it but i still dont have the gamepad.
ill try to find it and post as soon as i can
if i cant get it to work on my TP2 then i still have my Axim x51v
HERE IT IS, use at own risk because i have not tested it or remember were i got it
i think it might be a modified version of the tool
EXE inside zip
Purchased a Targus Bluetooth Keyboard for iPad (yea I know it said iPad) Model AKB32US from OfficeDepot today. Probably taking it back tomorrow but it is such a nice looking and sized Bluetooth keyboard.
Attempted to sync it with Viewsonic Gtab (TNT ROM) and Archos 101 (Stock Rom) with no luck. I know I need a APK to go along with the keyboard but I needed to try anyway.
Did some searching but the Google-Foo was weak today. Left a message at Targus.com but don't really expect an answer. Tried the Android Bluetooth Driver from the My Gear area on all settings as well.
Anyone had any success stories on Bluetooth keyboards and Gtab?
There are several threads that discuss bluetooth keyboards and different ROMs on the gTab.
Do a search in the Market for an app called Bluetooth Keyboard Easyconnect. It seems to have the most success of making connections for keyboards to the gTab.
Anyone else find it a bit ridiculous that you need an apk helper program to get almost any bluetooth device working with the gtab?
I've had some success with this keyboard/gTab combination. I was running into problems with entering the passphrase. My gTab kept asking me to enter the passphrase. It suggested 000 or 1234 and neither appeared to work. I was able to connect the keyboard to my Galaxy S and it seemed to work fine. When connecting that one though it prompted me on my phone to type a passphrase on the keyboard rather than the phone. Since it (the passphrase) was different everytime I assume it was randomly generated on my phone and sent to the keyboard for authentication. On my gTab it wasn't like that. It prompted me for the passphrase on my tablet and didn't connect. I read on another forum that someone was able to connect by typing the 0000 on their gTab then typing 0000 on the keyboard. It connected for me. Good, now I don't have to return it.
Since I'm not sure which, if any, did it for me. Here's the things I loaded to try and get it to work:
1. First tried to to a straight connect. No luck.
2. Loaded Bluetooth Keyboard Easy connect. (In market). No luck.
3. Loaded Blueinput. (In market also). No luck.
4. Tried the 0000 input on gTab then again directly afterwards on the keyboard. Voila! Success!
5. Uninstalled Blueinput. Rebooted, still working.
6. Uninstalled Bluetooth Keyboard Easy connect. Rebooted, still working.
I am running the VEGAn-7.0.0-RC1-Harmony ROM. (which is absolutley fantastic by the way...)
Much luck to you all.
JS
jfs999 said:
I've had some success with this keyboard/gTab combination. I was running into problems with entering the passphrase. My gTab kept asking me to enter the passphrase. It suggested 000 or 1234 and neither appeared to work. I was able to connect the keyboard to my Galaxy S and it seemed to work fine. When connecting that one though it prompted me on my phone to type a passphrase on the keyboard rather than the phone. Since it (the passphrase) was different everytime I assume it was randomly generated on my phone and sent to the keyboard for authentication. On my gTab it wasn't like that. It prompted me for the passphrase on my tablet and didn't connect. I read on another forum that someone was able to connect by typing the 0000 on their gTab then typing 0000 on the keyboard. It connected for me. Good, now I don't have to return it.
Since I'm not sure which, if any, did it for me. Here's the things I loaded to try and get it to work:
1. First tried to to a straight connect. No luck.
2. Loaded Bluetooth Keyboard Easy connect. (In market). No luck.
3. Loaded Blueinput. (In market also). No luck.
4. Tried the 0000 input on gTab then again directly afterwards on the keyboard. Voila! Success!
5. Uninstalled Blueinput. Rebooted, still working.
6. Uninstalled Bluetooth Keyboard Easy connect. Rebooted, still working.
I am running the VEGAn-7.0.0-RC1-Harmony ROM. (which is absolutley fantastic by the way...)
Much luck to you all.
JS
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Thank you sir... bought the same keyboard, love the feel and dimensions but could not get past the passkey part... now it's up and running and working great... thanks again
Running on Vegan-Tab 7.0.0 GingerEdition
JacRyan said:
Thank you sir... bought the same keyboard, love the feel and dimensions but could not get past the passkey part... now it's up and running and working great... thanks again
Running on Vegan-Tab 7.0.0 GingerEdition
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I am interested in this keyboard, how does the ipad hotkeys work under andriod ?
Bump ..
Any feedback ?!
Got mine to work with HTC Evo
Got my keyboard to work yesterday using instructions below, on an Evo running 2.3.3
1.) Put batteries in Keyboard
2.) Put Android Device in bluetooth search
3.) Turn Keybaord on and Press "Connect"
4.) Once the keyboard shows up on Android Device, enter the paskey "0000"
5.) Press connect on your android device, then immediately type "0000" on the keyboard and press the enter key.
That's what worked for me.....
jfs999 said:
I've had some success with this keyboard/gTab combination. I was running into problems with entering the passphrase. My gTab kept asking me to enter the passphrase. It suggested 000 or 1234 and neither appeared to work. I was able to connect the keyboard to my Galaxy S and it seemed to work fine. When connecting that one though it prompted me on my phone to type a passphrase on the keyboard rather than the phone. Since it (the passphrase) was different everytime I assume it was randomly generated on my phone and sent to the keyboard for authentication. On my gTab it wasn't like that. It prompted me for the passphrase on my tablet and didn't connect. I read on another forum that someone was able to connect by typing the 0000 on their gTab then typing 0000 on the keyboard. It connected for me. Good, now I don't have to return it.
Since I'm not sure which, if any, did it for me. Here's the things I loaded to try and get it to work:
1. First tried to to a straight connect. No luck.
2. Loaded Bluetooth Keyboard Easy connect. (In market). No luck.
3. Loaded Blueinput. (In market also). No luck.
4. Tried the 0000 input on gTab then again directly afterwards on the keyboard. Voila! Success!
5. Uninstalled Blueinput. Rebooted, still working.
6. Uninstalled Bluetooth Keyboard Easy connect. Rebooted, still working.
I am running the VEGAn-7.0.0-RC1-Harmony ROM. (which is absolutley fantastic by the way...)
Much luck to you all.
JS
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Does this need to be done every time? Or does it remember after the initial pair?
I just got the Targus keyboard working with Honeycomb on the G-Tablet. This is the fastrack version and sems to be working pretty well. No driver needed
poneal410 said:
Got my keyboard to work yesterday using instructions below, on an Evo running 2.3.3
1.) Put batteries in Keyboard
2.) Put Android Device in bluetooth search
3.) Turn Keybaord on and Press "Connect"
4.) Once the keyboard shows up on Android Device, enter the paskey "0000"
5.) Press connect on your android device, then immediately type "0000" on the keyboard and press the enter key.
That's what worked for me.....
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Did some similar steps and it worked perfectly on my Xoom! Thanks bro...
JacRyan said:
Thank you sir... bought the same keyboard, love the feel and dimensions but could not get past the passkey part... now it's up and running and working great... thanks again
Running on Vegan-Tab 7.0.0 GingerEdition
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Just loaded this Keyboard on my Galaxy Note 10 inch. Works nicely. Nothing required to install.
Does anyone have the Ca-Fi Android car stereo? It seems it was recently released. I really want one, and will probably get one.
ca-fi.com/en/
Im debating on ordering one too.... though they list a 800mhz and a 1.2ghz version. Seems the 800mhz version is the only one available
Wish XDA would make a section for it and some custom **** was done with it!
total junk. save your money
I got one yesterday and installed it. Save your money. Its total junk. Was definatelu rushed to market.
No android market (yes you read that right)
Navigation requires data connection either through hsdpa gsm 3g or wifi (meaning you have to provide data for navigation to work at all)
Voice navigation doesnt work (it asks you to install additional files via the market, which again doesnt exist so it fails)
Every time i start the unit it goes to fm radio even when i dont want it to. Force closing the radio app does nothing.
The list goes on and on and on. NEVER AGAIN
shassouneh said:
I got one yesterday and installed it. Save your money. Its total junk. Was definatelu rushed to market.
No android market (yes you read that right)
Navigation requires data connection either through hsdpa gsm 3g or wifi (meaning you have to provide data for navigation to work at all)
Voice navigation doesnt work (it asks you to install additional files via the market, which again doesnt exist so it fails)
Every time i start the unit it goes to fm radio even when i dont want it to. Force closing the radio app does nothing.
The list goes on and on and on. NEVER AGAIN
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Oh that's disappointing. I'm still considering buying one, just to see if I can root it, and fix some of the problems that you listed.
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Oh that's disappointing. I'm still considering buying one, just to see if I can root it, and fix some of the problems that you listed.
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I actually thkught about that too. Problem is you really cant connect it to a pc so any rooting work woukd have to be done via microsd card and run natively in 2.2. Not only that even if you root it theres no gurantee the android market would be installed as the "default" market. This means the voice navigation may never be solved.
Long story short, i am veey disappointed. :-(
that unfortunately, I wanted one for my birthday
shassouneh said:
I actually thkught about that too. Problem is you really cant connect it to a pc so any rooting work woukd have to be done via microsd card and run natively in 2.2. Not only that even if you root it theres no gurantee the android market would be installed as the "default" market. This means the voice navigation may never be solved.
Long story short, i am veey disappointed. :-(
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Doesn't it have a USB port on it?
I made the same mistake of purchasing one. I have been unsuccessful in trying to root it. Z4 will just freeze the device requiring a power cycle. I attempted to connect via USB but did not have any luck using this method either. The problem is that the radio runs both USB ports in Host mode. This keeps it from showing up as a device when you connect it to a computer. I have tried both the front and rear ports with Windows and Linux.
I did manage to get the Android Market app installed. It took a good bit of work and involved copying the Google apps including first boot to an SDcard and sideloading them. The first boot app did break my home button, it currently does nothing and I can't figure out how to re associate it with the launcher.
Once I was able to connect my Google account, I was able to sideload the market apk. Of course, this required working wifi. The dumb device is configured for wifi using a wpa_supplicant file which specifies that 802.1x authentication is required. Seeing as I'm not using this on my wifi, I needed an app called wifi fixer to override this setting. I also needed to setup an unsecured wireless network because I couldn't get wifi-fixer to connect to a wep or wpa network. Once connected, the wireless was very spotty but worked long enough for what I needed.
After all this was completed, I was able to download an offline navigation app, copilot live, that would allow me to use the device as a nav while I wasn't sitting in the driveway connected to the wifi. I did try connecting to my rooted DroidX with CM7 using wifi tether but could not get the radio to complete the connection.
As shassouneh pointed out, it boots into FM Radio every time its powered on. This allows it to start playing music quickly, but is very annoying. I typically stream music from my phone over bluetooth which requires the volume to be much louder than when listening to the FM Radio. When you start the vehicle, the volume is remembered and will be deafening. The FM radio application is very buggy and it will take several attempts to save your radio presets with an acceptable name. It tries to use the digitally broadcast station information as the preset name, but often it just returns garbage. After trying some twenty times, I was able to get most of my presets to read the frequency and the FCC station name. (ex. 93.1 WPOC).
The touch screen is very disappointing. It's a low-quality restive type which requires that you touch below the point you're aiming for. This makes getting to buttons at the very bottom of the screen a challenge. I tried calibrating the screen, but was sent into and endless loop of touching the cross-hairs...
The "Phone" app has all the bluetooth configuration including pairing, contacts, music, etc. it is very rudimentary. The radio frequently fails to connect to my phone on its own and needs to be forced to connect. Sometimes the play button will start the phone playing music and other times it won't. I haven't found a rhyme or reason for it yet. It doesn't support AVRCP and as such you get three buttons when streaming music over bluetooth: Previous, Play/Pause, and Next. There's no indication of which song is playing nor is there any way to browse the music on the phone from the radio.
Overall, the device is absolutely terrible. Perhaps if I could root it, I could fix a number of its annoying characteristics and it wouldn't be so bad. I was most disappointed by the poor wifi and the FM radio at boot. There is such potential here to make an awesome device... Do not waste your money on this piece of garbage no matter how tempting it may be.
Bought one also !!!
I discovered that the product seems to be sold has with another brand :
http://www.ekoore.com/web/en/product/car-hi-fi-2/elija-2/overview-6.html
The point is that they are providing an update.zip containing files and probably could be used for rooting the device. Found the link http://www.ekoore.it/download/elija/update.zip in the italian forum.
From what I understood, this is a 2.3 device ...
Confirmed mine is 2.3.3
Tried several rooting tools (Z4, GingerBreak, Visonnary+, Universal Androot ...) none of these are working.
Wasn't able to dump the rom (no ADB, used terminal with RomDump V7.2) but found that there is a physical switch inside the box. I can have a message displayed "No signal received", just by starting the device while the switch is pressed. Didn't manage to konow if this is bootloader mode or not.
Found a Quick Start guide explaining how to build kernel and so on http://wendang.baidu.com/view/6545cb13a216147917112879.html
Chip TC8900 seems to be used widely for several chinese tablets. So rooting shouldn't be as difficult as it seems. My guess is that the only way to have it rooted is to modify the update.zip above....but I don't know how to do it !!
From what I understood, the radio, BT etc ... parts are not running Android and are something completely different. The only way to switch to an android environment is to go to navigate mode.
Guys,
I'm surprised, I've had this installed in my car for a couple months now and it works great and I do use it daily and thoroughly.
I have installed Android market (couple of minutes, easy to do), have my email, contacts, everything setup, I even get auto updates for installed apps
Bluetooth pairing with both my HD2's works flawlessly and synced all contacts from both phones
The dedicated iPod interface works great with my 160Gb iPod, I have a USB hub in the glovebox with a 2.5" HDD , WiFi dongle and 3g dongle all connected in.
Navigation doesn't require a data connection, I have a several different SatNav apps installed - some online and some offline, but I stick with Waze as I like it..., Waze unfortunately starts up in portrait but that's easily sorted with a press of the home key and Waze also puts up a single warning about battery being flat, but there's no battery, so what would you expect.....
can also listen to good quality internet radio on the move
If you buy a device like this, you've gotta expect a data connection to be required for initial setup of your apps and how you want them, I've run the device without internet, through my phone and through a 3g dongle.
It works properly and reliably with my original steering wheel controls and the way it sets this up is the best I've seen on a in car device and simplicity itself.
It also boots to the last source being played, in my case normally iPod, but if the iPod etc is missing, then it will default to the radio.
The touchscreen isn't the best in the world, but is very useable, if the alignment is out then recalibrate it by holding the back button until the calibration screen appears..
Only thing I really don't like is if you burn some mp3's to a cd/dvd, they play through the dvd interface, not through the android media players.
I genuinely like the unit, it's a nice toy to have in the car and has no more issues than any other android device I've used...
J
Should say that the FM quality is really awful ! Can't even get the RDS working ...
French translation is missing sereval items (or completly false). Got the wifi + market without too much trouble. The touchscreen is usable.
I definitely love to have it rooted
Xitdis said:
Does anyone have the Ca-Fi Android car stereo? It seems it was recently released. I really want one, and will probably get one.
ca-fi.com/en/
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I've got that stuff from their dealer in Russia, I think juliabrothers.net
Cool device. I loved it sound quality, pure, very sharp image. Very quick response. Yes, the touch screen isn't as good as we used to have on smart phones. Still works o.k. Just look at others DVD player made on Windows CE6.0 platform. They ain't better in anyway.
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naboleo said:
Should say that the FM quality is really awful ! Can't even get the RDS working ...
French translation is missing sereval items (or completly false). Got the wifi + market without too much trouble. The touchscreen is usable.
I definitely love to have it rooted
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Could you please give me a hint how you manage to install Market on that thing?
Still working on it. Which Android version do you have? I have 2.2
You see, Android Market which built for smart phones doesn't work very well for CAR stereo devices. That Market doesn't differentiate between "good" and harmful applications, which can shut down your system forever.
Remember most of software designed for smart phones doesn't work under CA-FI platforms. Supplier said so, I 'd be happy to be wrong.....
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naboleo said:
Confirmed mine is 2.3.3
Tried several rooting tools (Z4, GingerBreak, Visonnary+, Universal Androot ...) none of these are working.
Wasn't able to dump the rom (no ADB, used terminal with RomDump V7.2) but found that there is a physical switch inside the box. I can have a message displayed "No signal received", just by starting the device while the switch is pressed. Didn't manage to konow if this is bootloader mode or not.
Found a Quick Start guide explaining how to build kernel and so on
Chip TC8900 seems to be used widely for several chinese tablets. So rooting shouldn't be as difficult as it seems. My guess is that the only way to have it rooted is to modify the update.zip above....but I don't know how to do it !!
From what I understood, the radio, BT etc ... parts are not running Android and are something completely different. The only way to switch to an android environment is to go to navigate mode.
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Is that possible to use that manual for building a kernel, which could be used instead of pre-installed software? Seems interesting. Any thoughts?
Market came from the 2.3.3 build already installed on device. You probably can try the apk within the update archive http://www.ekoore.it/download/elija/update.zip . As the italian website is quite slow i extracted it. From what i understood update seems to not working on all devices.
Regarding the manual, of course I was thinking it could help for anything like root, recovery image or enabling adb. But honestly i don't have enough knowledge to do myself.
Hi Everyone, just found this thread. I have this unit as well and have been building info on the MP3car site about it, overall i'm happy with the unit although i haven't been able to do everything i want to it.
The audio quality for me is good and i can tether data off of my phone to play internet radio and navigate through waze or otherwise. I'd definately like to see some development in this area myself as there are some welcome improvements to be made. i've sideloaded the market but was never able to update it. the player will default to the last built in media that was played when it shuts down and there seems to be several volume streams built in, i've heard people haven't been able to adjust these with volume apps.
here is the MP3car thread: http://www.mp3car.com/android-tablet/150109-innotrends-ca-fi-on-order-will-review.html
Upon request, here is the update zip from the italian forum. Rename from update.zip to elira-update.zip
elija-update.html
I recently purchased and installed the Ca-Fi "Universal" 620 to replace my JVC head unit that died after 5 years. Because there isn't much information out there about this product, not even from the manufacture, I thought I'd provide the good and bad from an audiophiles perspective(...and I only coin the term audiophile because I have a full on sound system in my car, not because I'm into the lossless debates and all that BS).
The Bad (or the ugly):
-Has an individual RCA jack for subwoofer output. (left/right(white/black, red) is pretty standard. Now I have to buy a sum'er to join the channels. What if I had two subs running left and right channels of bass...I'd be up a creek and would have to buy splitter then a line driver...blah come on.
-Although there is individual subwoofer level control there is no subwoofer (low) frequency control. So, my lows that run to my subwoofer are the lows that will run to my speakers and I can’t do this cause my front stage was meant for highs and mids.
-The Graphic EQ, although having 10+ frequency to set they provide automatic roll off of nearby frequencies so, it's hard to fine tune.If you’re going to give me that many frequencies then please let me control each one of them.
-The balance controls (and all other touch screen sliders)were OK but, they sorely need increase/decrease buttons (i.e. “+” and “-“). Trying to configure a good sound stage is hard with resistive touch screen sliders.
-The P.CNTL (I assume Power Control, again no documentation) is switched off and on when you change sources (or I think actually when no sound is “sensed”) whaa? So now, because my amps have delayed starts, each time I switch a source (or Pandora even buffers a new song) the relay power drops to my amps and I have to wait for my amps to power up again. Not to mention the pops because of the high current switching on and off..man. So now I have to find an off delay relay so my amps don't turn off when I change the source. Now I could very well be the idiot on this one and need to use the P.ANT (I assume power antenna) but, the reason I didn’t is because P.ANT is solid blue wire, whereas P.CNTRL is a blue with white strip which is more industry standard for relay control.
-The boot up source is always going to the Radio. I read some other folks already discuss that here and there but, come on, really, you can't just remember the last source I had.
-Bluetooth (or lack thereof) yes, it will play your music from your phone (in my case HTC Sensation) but, that's about it. If I want to change an artist or song or whatever I have to do it from my phone. I thought it would have this to make me a safer driver so I don't have to look/mess with my phone to get new songs, guess that's what I get for assuming?
-Auto screen Dimmer doesn't work or isn't that great cause I still have to manually dim the screen at night.
-Resistive touchscreen I gotta hammer the screen to push buttons. Each push takes my attention away from the road, no bueno!
-Wifi doesn't support WEP or WPA no biggie since I'm driving and I don't think hackers do drive by hackings (or do they?). But, still sucks cause when I use it at the airport I have to turn it back on. Just a nuisance but, wifi WILL tether (provided you buy the additional USB Wifi Adapter).
-Some Apps don't recognize my wifi connection and thus will not work. Case in point, Google Maps. wft! the whole reason I got the thing was to wifi tether with my phone and control goolge maps from ca-fi. Nope can't do it. booo.
-Double DIN – not really. I don’t know what standards they followed but, my original brackets from my original Double DIN HU (head unit) didn’t work. The unit sticks out so far my radio door won’t close and there’s a gap of about .25 inches on both sides. No install kits will work with this because it’s not truly a standard Double DIN.
The Good
-The bluetooth phone capabilities work good. Contact list is ok. Of course it sucks for me because of the whole P.CNTRL thing. Yes, when I switch to Phone it turns off and on my amps…grrr.
-Mini SD card slots and a miniUSB port in front, very nice/convenient.
-System isn’t as slow as one might think for such a “slow” processor. My HTC Sensation runs circles around this thing ;p.
-Nice interface for the radio.
-You can run Apps. Although a lot of them crash (i.e. Force Close) every now and then for no apparent reason.
-Pandora works (with wifi tether) very nicely.
-Push button (knob) for mute and knob volume control.
….that’s all I’ve got for now but, so far the goods don’t out weight the bads so, I’m not happy with regards to the amount of money I spent vs. what I’m getting vs. what actually works. I’m not upset because I went into this fully knowing I was going to be a guinea pig but, if you’re a music first, apps and other **** second, kind of person like me steer clear my friends.
Not that any manufacture ever cares or even reacts to forum post, I’m going to try and communicate this to the manufacture and hopefully see if a) they’re aware of these issues and b)if they plan to release fixes/patches to help their “new adopters” out. Don’t get me wrong this company has a great product and great idea but, they’re seriously mistaken if they think they can compete with the big boys (Android Apps or no Android Apps).
What do jou Guys/girls think about this product....... http://www.chinavasion.com/2-din-ca...chable-android-23-tablet-panel-wifi-gps-dvbt/
I find it very interesting