I like das BAMF quite a bit, it seems to be headed in the direction of being the premiere customer Thunderbolt ROM, but MAN is it reboot-y in it's current state. I've reformatted/wiped everything, but the second I try to overclock in the slightest, I'll get random reboots/screen lockups pretty much constantly. This can be easily reproduced by quickly sleeping/waking a few times, or often by just letting the phone sleep naturally then trying to wake it.
When put to stock voltage it DOES seem to behave a lot better, my question is do I somehow have a non-overclockable T-Bolt, or is there something likely screwed up with the latest radio/kernel/ROM or whatever? I can downgrade back to a Nandroid backup no problem but if the problem's with the radio, for example, that's not gonna help.
I had some problems with the stock kernel on BAMF 1.6 remix screen seemed to get less responsive after a while. Changed Kernels seems to have helped.
What Kernel did you switch to? I'm not sure if BAMF has the same Kernel issues the Droid did when using custom ROMS (i.e. the ROM has to play nice with the Kernel by design or you run into problems)
I am a big fan of these kernels: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1021404
I have not had any reboot issues with any of them though I do seem to get one reboot always when I change kernels or ROMS while I am setting things up. Maybe Radio I don't know but after that one it does not happen again.
Brilliant, seems to be working a LOT better. Anyone else dealing with random reboots definitely check this out
each phone is different in how it handles the kernels. i would just try out a bunch and see what plays nice with your phone. my thunderbolt can handle the extremely undervolted roms as well as the one's that are overclocked high. my friends though, cant. it is all about trial and error. i would just backup before you do anything though, just in case.
Yea. I'm using the minimal kernel - normal with BAMF re-mix 1.6, and so far, no reboots at all. (hope I did not just jinx myself).
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I am a big fan of these kernels: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1021404
I have not had any reboot issues with any of them though I do seem to get one reboot always when I change kernels or ROMS while I am setting things up. Maybe Radio I don't know but after that one it does not happen again.
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+1 on these kernels. I used the normal and the 192x version of this kernel on Bamf's rom and no reboots.
Hey guys, I had my last phone rooted (mt3g) but I couldnt stand the instability of CM so I decided to not root this one.....but now Im bored since Ive had it since release so Id like to at least flash a kernal so I can play with overclock. My question is can I root and continue to use the stock sense and flash a kernal for overclocking? If so what is the most stable and recommended kernal out? Thanks.
Use adrynalynes or imoseyons. Pretty easy to find the most popular. Look at the threads.
Rooting will wipe your phone anyway might as well flash a Rom, at least to get rid of bloat. All the froyo ones are very stable and have some nice tweaks. I like bamf best.
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Use adrynalynes or imoseyons. Pretty easy to find the most popular. Look at the threads.
Rooting will wipe your phone anyway might as well flash a Rom, at least to get rid of bloat. All the froyo ones are very stable and have some nice tweaks. I like bamf best.
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This is good advice right here. The other piece of advice is that you should stick with a Froyo-based ROM/kernel/radio for now. Theory is that GB radio creates bricked phones (incredibly low percentage chance of it happening but why risk it if you're not a risky type?).
Das Bamf and Perfect Storm are the two I would recommend. I prefer Imoseyon's kernels but Adrynalyne's are great too. Drod's are also good but not as popular (he had some of the first ones out there, though, and used to be the best).
I thought the same thing when I picked up my phone...
Started lurking on here... And 6 hours into ownership I was rooted and running Das BAMF. I would root, and try out one of the froyo roms. My favorite so far is Das BAMF.
Just want to throw my 2 cents in and recommend the Liquid Thundersense ROM. I just flashed 1.5 today and am thoroughly impressed. (My goals were simply battery life improvement and debloat.)
I flashed Imo's sweet, tweakable kernel though, IIRC, the ROM may actually come with it. Either way, between the two the performance and battery life are already such an improvement over stock that I probably won't bother with other ROMs until a stable Gingerbread one is available — I was spoiled coming from a myTouch 4G running CM7.
That said, if Liquid Thundersense has a weak spot, it's the default theme. It's not bad but, like I said, CM7's slick GB+ADWlauncher UI spoiled me...
XDA Premium on Tbolt. That is all.
I am most stable with bamf 1.6.2, tried to upgrade to 1.7 but when doing a restore with titanium, things seem to go a bit awkward. When I get a chance I'll probably do a clean install of bamf 1.7 remix or stripped with apps/data without the system apps. I've been running without 4g for best battery life. LTE seems to bring my battery life to its knees (<8 hours with decent usage).
I just recently rooted my thunderbolt, and I have a few questions about overclocking. I'm not as familiar with the thunderbolt as I am with the moto droid, so I'm not sure what an average speed is to overclock to. On my old droid, I overclocked up to 1.2ghz without any problems. On my thunderbolt, however, when I overclock past 1.267ghz, it freezes and then reboots. I'm not sure if that's normal or if my phone just isn't capable of handling anything more than that, but i feel like most people can get at least to 1.4ghz. Will a different kernel work better with my phone? And what are all of you overclocked to?
edit: forgot to mention i'm running synergy rom in case that makes a difference
Which kernel are you running? The stock synergy one? I don't know if it will make a difference changing them or not, but it could be a voltage problem with that specific kernel and your phone. I think all well at least I thought all Tbolts could handle 1.4ghz.
I personally don't have a problem even if I'm overclocked to 1.92 and extremely undervolted.
Yes, I'm running the kernel that came with synergy rom. So you think if I change the kernel it should work better? Is there a specific one you recommend?
I can't say for sure it will make a difference but it's worth a shot. I really like Imoseyon's kernels.
I've run that kernel. Ziggy tends to be pretty conservative regarding his voltages. You've got several options with a Ziggy kernel. You can write a script to change them. He explains how at ziggy471.com. You can use ScriptFusion, though I'd suggest using the terminal install as the app had some issues when I used it. Or, You could switch up to Imoseyon or dreamkernel, both of which I've found to be a bit more stable at higher clock speeds. 1.41GHz should be the least you should be able to over clock, with most able to do 1.6 and some able to pull off 1.8 or 1.9. Synergy and Ziggy kernels are NOT for the novice. Ziggy kernels aren't really meant to be toyed with my amateurs that aren't comfortable with ADB and basic script writing. ScriptFusion does work well on it though. Some ideas for voltage settings to get you to 1.6GHz: 1.024 should be somewhere around 1050 to 1100, 1.22 around 1150, 1.4 around 1275, 1.6 around 1375. I run my 1.6 at 1400 for stability, but some may be stable as low as 1325 at that speed. It's trial and error. How to test, using the ziggy kernel? Very easy. Open the terminal and enter "echo "xxxxxxx yyyy" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/vdd_levels" where xxxxxxx represents the clock setting and yyyy represents the voltage setting you wish to apply to the clock setting. Omit the quotes. This is useful if the setting is unstable. If it locks up, the phone will restart using original settings. Definitely check Ziggy's site if you're interested in learning how to work with his kernels the right way.
Thanks for taking the time to explain all that. I really don't want to mess around with any scripts, as i'm really not an expert with this stuff. I think I'm going to flash a new kernel and see if it helps. I was thinking of using dreamkernel, but there are three different files and I'm not sure which one to pick...?
http://www.nerozehl.net/dreamkernel_sense_2_3_6.zip - MD5:
15985306c69cf659c96abc085b9fa3a2
http://www.nerozehl.net/dreamkernel_sense_2_3_0.zip - MD5: 9f2e3f78d5d11b18508b141f715224fc
http://www.nerozehl.net/dreamkernel_sense_2_2_4.zip - MD5: ce5bd02540cbba9e687d5dbaae56931b
Those are the choices. Could you explain to me what the difference is between the three?
Also do you know if jdlfg's kernels are any good? I used to use them on my old droid and I really liked them, but they're not listed under the xda kernel list (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1081930) so I don't know if they're compatible with my phone. Again, thanks for your help.
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Thanks for taking the time to explain all that. I really don't want to mess around with any scripts, as i'm really not an expert with this stuff. I think I'm going to flash a new kernel and see if it helps. I was thinking of using dreamkernel, but there are three different files and I'm not sure which one to pick...?
http://www.nerozehl.net/dreamkernel_sense_2_3_6.zip - MD5:
15985306c69cf659c96abc085b9fa3a2
http://www.nerozehl.net/dreamkernel_sense_2_3_0.zip - MD5: 9f2e3f78d5d11b18508b141f715224fc
http://www.nerozehl.net/dreamkernel_sense_2_2_4.zip - MD5: ce5bd02540cbba9e687d5dbaae56931b
Those are the choices. Could you explain to me what the difference is between the three?
Also do you know if jdlfg's kernels are any good? I used to use them on my old droid and I really liked them, but they're not listed under the xda kernel list (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1081930) so I don't know if they're compatible with my phone. Again, thanks for your help.
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Those are merely different revisions of the same kernel. Use the newest one, 2.2.6,... that is, if your synergy build isn't on the newer gingerbread base. If it is, you're stuck with Ziggy's unless a working front facing camera and WiFi are features you couldn't care less about. On the newer gingerbread builds, Imoseyon's have proven faster than dreamkernel. Can't tell you why. From what I've seen of the latest Ziggy's, it simply cannot be clocked fast enough to keep up with Imoseyon or dreamkernel. Can't tell you much about the jdlfg. I thought that was an AOSP kernel. Never used it in any case.
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Those are merely different revisions of the same kernel. Use the newest one, 2.2.6,... that is, if your synergy build isn't on the newer gingerbread base. If it is, you're stuck with Ziggy's unless a working front facing camera and WiFi are features you couldn't care less about. On the newer gingerbread builds, Imoseyon's have proven faster than dreamkernel. Can't tell you why. From what I've seen of the latest Ziggy's, it simply cannot be clocked fast enough to keep up with Imoseyon or dreamkernel. Can't tell you much about the jdlfg. I thought that was an AOSP kernel. Never used it in any case.
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So if I'm on a newer gingerbread build I can't flash any other kernel? How do I know if I'm on a newer gingerbread build? I just flashed synergy rom I believe on July 20th or so, so I guess I am running the newer build.
If I do run lean kernel, my options are GB SENSE DOWNLOADS:
1) lean test, 1) 184Mhz test, 3) Stock kernel, 4) USBfix, 5) 2.5.3test7 kernel, 6) dreamKernel
Which of these would I want? Stock?
Also, it says the GB sense kernel is a test version and has bugs. Should I worry about that?
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So if I'm on a newer gingerbread build I can't flash any other kernel? How do I know if I'm on a newer gingerbread build? I just flashed synergy rom I believe on July 20th or so, so I guess I am running the newer build.
If I do run lean kernel, my options are GB SENSE DOWNLOADS:
1) lean test, 1) 184Mhz test, 3) Stock kernel, 4) USBfix, 5) 2.5.3test7 kernel, 6) dreamKernel
Which of these would I want? Stock?
Also, it says the GB sense kernel is a test version and has bugs. Should I worry about that?
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1 through 5 are all good. Dreamkernel is a bit different, but not bad. I'm using the test to write this on, so its quick and solid. If the nightly is that new, its probably the new base so using one of these will likely mess up your front facing camera and WiFi. Before you flash one of these, try Twistedumbrella's scriptfusion on that Ziggy kernel. That might be the best way to go at this point. If you have any question, hit me up.
I went on ziggy471.com, but I'm a little confused about which article to read about writing scripts. Is it this one? http://www.ziggy471.com/2011/04/07/vdd-smartass-and-cpufreq-sysfs-interfaces-and-how-to-use-them/
I'm kind of hesitant to use script fusion, as I don't want to mess anything up, so I was wondering if you could walk me through it? Or at least point me in the right direction on finding instructions? I looked at the page for scriptfusion, but I didn't understand what a lot of the things meant. I really don't know much about this stuff. If you think it will be too difficult for me, I will just accept not overclocking and hope the wifi issues will be fixed on the other kernels soon.
I alternated between leanKernel & dreamKernel on Gingeritis. Too bad imoseyon hasn't updated Sense leanKernel in almost 4 weeks. I guess he's sticking with cm7
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I am running chingys lastest 3d beta 5 and I have always used dreams sense kernals but this one came with ziggys and I have decided to try it out. Is it a bad idea to just use setcpu with ziggys kernal? I know your not supposed to use setcpu with speedtweak.sh but this kernal doesn't use that
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I am running chingys lastest 3d beta 5 and I have always used dreams sense kernals but this one came with ziggys and I have decided to try it out. Is it a bad idea to just use setcpu with ziggys kernal? I know your not supposed to use setcpu with speedtweak.sh but this kernal doesn't use that
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SetCPU works with ziggy's kernel. For the record, SetCPU works with speedtweak as long as you instruct speedtweak to ignore max/min freqs
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SetCPU works just fine for any kernel. The reason you don't want to use SetCPU with ScriptFusion is they both attempt to do the same thing using the same method; create a script that will alter your settings. The disadvantage of SetCPU is that it's an app that takes up resources. Not a whole lot, but it does. ScriptFusion takes up nothing because it executes the script at boot and it's done. ScriptFusion simply makes writing a fairly complex script fast and easy, but the end result is a script that is written to /system/etc/init.d. Ziggy's kernels allow you more options in scripting than ScriptFusion provides for, if you know how to write the script. Stuff like manipulating the behavior of the governors and the like. That link is correct, and he has answered questions regarding that script on the Synergy Development thread at infectedrom.com. I'd like to help more, but I couldn't even write a script for one of his kernels because his settings are subject to change with every kernel revision. You'd have to know the stepping for the the clock and voltages before you could do anything. That's easy enough to get using the "cat" command, but if you don't know much about linux commands, doing the stuff you need to do can be a little daunting. I would suggest using ScriptFusion, and do a nandroid first. Also, download the GuiltyVirdict which will remove all setting if something goes wrong. If you want to try a speed or voltage setting before applying it through speedtweak.sh, follow what's in that guide. You can do it either through the terminal on your phone or through ADB. I've tried all of it and it does work.
If you'd like to hit me up while you're messing with it, you can hit me up on yahoo messenger at [email protected]
I'm using imyosons gb test kernel on gingeritis 3d and its smooth as butter at 1.4
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I've been running Synergy Rom/Ziggy's Kernel for about 1.5 months now, minimum I've ran it at is 1.2, max is 1.6. I haven't tried to go above that, but I've never had any issues with it going south on me. I set up a few different profiles, and drop it to about 768 overnight (3am to 7am for me). It's worked like a champ.
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I'm using imyosons gb test kernel on gingeritis 3d and its smooth as butter at 1.4
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@sonami: battery life been just as good or better on his rom than Ziggy's?
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I went on ziggy471.com, but I'm a little confused about which article to read about writing scripts. Is it this one? http://www.ziggy471.com/2011/04/07/vdd-smartass-and-cpufreq-sysfs-interfaces-and-how-to-use-them/
I'm kind of hesitant to use script fusion, as I don't want to mess anything up, so I was wondering if you could walk me through it? Or at least point me in the right direction on finding instructions? I looked at the page for scriptfusion, but I didn't understand what a lot of the things meant. I really don't know much about this stuff. If you think it will be too difficult for me, I will just accept not overclocking and hope the wifi issues will be fixed on the other kernels soon.
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That's the right link. If you're reluctant to use scriptfusion, I'm not going to suggest doing a manual script, as that all scriptfusion does in a much easier way. Scripts are the only way to adjust a voltage to make a less than stable clock speed become stable. I get the strong impression virtually ever Tbolt can do 1.41GHz, if not 1.6GHz. Is you're on Gingeritus3D beta5 I'd suggest moving to 6 since Ziggy made noticeable changes to the kernel that improve speed and overclocking. The voltage scale on Ziggy's in beta6 shouldn't require voltage changes to achieve 1.41GHz. ScriptFusion isn't that scary. Give it a try. And if things go real sour, use guilty verdict.
any thoughts? just rooted it yesterday, was trying to figure out what the best kernel is
Stock, lol. Whatever comes on the ROM is going to be your best bet right now.
I am using stock rooted with ziggy kernel due to his having call recording enabled. Works well for me.
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I used Ziggy's for a few weeks but like most other users I found that it rebooted itself at least once a day no matter what the clock settings where (innefabilis ROM).
I switched to the OC dsb kernel & it has run absolutely perfectly ever since, but I don't see any huge advantage over just running the stock kernel at this point.
~John
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any thoughts? just rooted it yesterday, was trying to figure out what the best kernel is
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It depends on what ROM you're running to some extent. Also, people are having different experiences running the same ROM/kernel combo so ymmv.
I would decide on a ROM you want to try then read through that ROM's thread and look for issues people are having and what kernels they're using. Then read through the kernel threads and check for issues for it being used with the ROM you like.
It will depend on how you use your phone too. I've read where people running Ineffabilis ROM with ziggy's kernel are fine except if they let the phone charge to 100% while it's on it starts bootlooping. So I could never use that since I usually charge overnight and need to use the phone as my alarm clock. I went with dsb but haven't done any oc/uv tweaking yet.
You can always try one out and then change it if it's not working out for you.
I've personally used ziggy and dsb, I didn't notice much of a difference between either, but dsb was/is SUPER easy to flash, puts boot.img INS ph91img.zip on your sd and reboots to villager for easy install (ziggy might have done this to, I don't remember)
I also used both with inefabliss and didn't notice any issue with ziggy, but results may very!
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Okay I've been seeing a few post about it now but I've been running Shostock2 3.0.5 with the Siyah Kernel.
I tried the Cherry picker for 2 days didn't like it for some reason.... Maybe I was biased based on the fact I came from Shostock 1.9.4 GB + Siyah and LOVED IT. But I guess it was time to cross the dark side and join the ICS fanboi's......
First, I wanted to say EVEN when I was on the ShoStock2 3.0.5 AND now currently 3.1.0 (Flashed Today about 30 mins ago....) People are having issues trying to OC to 1.6..... For me, not gonna happen it'll crash and just reboot. I've tried it muliple times and just doesn't work. New Install, Wipe Everything... NO GO for 1.6gHz.
I ran the phone smoothly so far on 1.5 prior to this, I had the phone very steady and stable with running 1.4.
Is anyone else experiencing the same? I know someone told me Not all phones are the same and just because someone else can doesn't mean your phone can.... I find it odd sense it's the same hardware and Setup. But hey, I'm not a tech or developer...
Anyways any feedback?
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Is anyone else experiencing the same? I know someone told me Not all phones are the same and just because someone else can doesn't mean your phone can.... I find it odd sense it's the same hardware and Setup. But hey, I'm not a tech or developer...
Anyways any feedback?
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Whoever told you this is correct. Even though our ATT SGSIIs all have the same Exynos C210 chipset, the chips themselves are not identical. Slight variances in the manufacturing process are inevitable and, in part, account for the varying degrees of tolerance that we see for overclocking and undervolting. My ATT Samsung Captivate was perfectly stable when OC'ed to 1.6 ghz. A LOT of people couldn't get above 1.2-1.3 ghz while still maintaining acceptable stability.
I'm on SHOStock2 3.1.0 (been running all the latest SHOStock2 builds since release and always with the most recent Siyah kernel) and I never OC beyond 1.4 ghz. I, personally, have never see any noticable performace gains on my phone when running at higher clock speeds, and the phone is significantly less stable. OC/UV settings are always YMMV.
Thanks for the reply...
Someone had replied to me in another one of my posted threads. You can check my recent post on that thread.
Anyways, I updated to 3.1.0 but then I just revert back to the 3.0.5 instead. For some reason I felt that it was better. Plus I was tired of getting the Shell notifications.....
Yes, I know I can go into SU and change the settings but I wanted to make sure that nothing was fishy going on so I wanted to see notifications.
So I'm currently on ShoStock2 3.0.5 + Latest Siyah + LE5 Modem. As far as I'm concern, it runs very smooth and has pretty decent battery life =) I have My and my Wifey's phone I can mess with (Hers is also a S2) But again thanks for the reply.
i did a dirty flash of 3.1 over 3.0.5 and i kept getting freezes when plugging in the AC adapter and also screen-off freezes. I assumed it had to do with the kernel change (i did not disable setcpu first) so i went to recovery and wiped cache and davlik, froze on boot. So i did a complete wipe and flashed the rom clean... once i made any change to the kernel (OC, UC, UV, changed governor, flashed new kernel) i would get stuck in a bootloop. even my nandroid of 3.0.5 seem buggered which really doesnt make sense.
Did a full wipe again and flashed unoriginal for the time being, not sure if it's my device or the ROM (most likely something ive done, lol)