I just recently rooted my thunderbolt, and I have a few questions about overclocking. I'm not as familiar with the thunderbolt as I am with the moto droid, so I'm not sure what an average speed is to overclock to. On my old droid, I overclocked up to 1.2ghz without any problems. On my thunderbolt, however, when I overclock past 1.267ghz, it freezes and then reboots. I'm not sure if that's normal or if my phone just isn't capable of handling anything more than that, but i feel like most people can get at least to 1.4ghz. Will a different kernel work better with my phone? And what are all of you overclocked to?
edit: forgot to mention i'm running synergy rom in case that makes a difference
Which kernel are you running? The stock synergy one? I don't know if it will make a difference changing them or not, but it could be a voltage problem with that specific kernel and your phone. I think all well at least I thought all Tbolts could handle 1.4ghz.
I personally don't have a problem even if I'm overclocked to 1.92 and extremely undervolted.
Yes, I'm running the kernel that came with synergy rom. So you think if I change the kernel it should work better? Is there a specific one you recommend?
I can't say for sure it will make a difference but it's worth a shot. I really like Imoseyon's kernels.
I've run that kernel. Ziggy tends to be pretty conservative regarding his voltages. You've got several options with a Ziggy kernel. You can write a script to change them. He explains how at ziggy471.com. You can use ScriptFusion, though I'd suggest using the terminal install as the app had some issues when I used it. Or, You could switch up to Imoseyon or dreamkernel, both of which I've found to be a bit more stable at higher clock speeds. 1.41GHz should be the least you should be able to over clock, with most able to do 1.6 and some able to pull off 1.8 or 1.9. Synergy and Ziggy kernels are NOT for the novice. Ziggy kernels aren't really meant to be toyed with my amateurs that aren't comfortable with ADB and basic script writing. ScriptFusion does work well on it though. Some ideas for voltage settings to get you to 1.6GHz: 1.024 should be somewhere around 1050 to 1100, 1.22 around 1150, 1.4 around 1275, 1.6 around 1375. I run my 1.6 at 1400 for stability, but some may be stable as low as 1325 at that speed. It's trial and error. How to test, using the ziggy kernel? Very easy. Open the terminal and enter "echo "xxxxxxx yyyy" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/vdd_levels" where xxxxxxx represents the clock setting and yyyy represents the voltage setting you wish to apply to the clock setting. Omit the quotes. This is useful if the setting is unstable. If it locks up, the phone will restart using original settings. Definitely check Ziggy's site if you're interested in learning how to work with his kernels the right way.
Thanks for taking the time to explain all that. I really don't want to mess around with any scripts, as i'm really not an expert with this stuff. I think I'm going to flash a new kernel and see if it helps. I was thinking of using dreamkernel, but there are three different files and I'm not sure which one to pick...?
http://www.nerozehl.net/dreamkernel_sense_2_3_6.zip - MD5:
15985306c69cf659c96abc085b9fa3a2
http://www.nerozehl.net/dreamkernel_sense_2_3_0.zip - MD5: 9f2e3f78d5d11b18508b141f715224fc
http://www.nerozehl.net/dreamkernel_sense_2_2_4.zip - MD5: ce5bd02540cbba9e687d5dbaae56931b
Those are the choices. Could you explain to me what the difference is between the three?
Also do you know if jdlfg's kernels are any good? I used to use them on my old droid and I really liked them, but they're not listed under the xda kernel list (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1081930) so I don't know if they're compatible with my phone. Again, thanks for your help.
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Thanks for taking the time to explain all that. I really don't want to mess around with any scripts, as i'm really not an expert with this stuff. I think I'm going to flash a new kernel and see if it helps. I was thinking of using dreamkernel, but there are three different files and I'm not sure which one to pick...?
http://www.nerozehl.net/dreamkernel_sense_2_3_6.zip - MD5:
15985306c69cf659c96abc085b9fa3a2
http://www.nerozehl.net/dreamkernel_sense_2_3_0.zip - MD5: 9f2e3f78d5d11b18508b141f715224fc
http://www.nerozehl.net/dreamkernel_sense_2_2_4.zip - MD5: ce5bd02540cbba9e687d5dbaae56931b
Those are the choices. Could you explain to me what the difference is between the three?
Also do you know if jdlfg's kernels are any good? I used to use them on my old droid and I really liked them, but they're not listed under the xda kernel list (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1081930) so I don't know if they're compatible with my phone. Again, thanks for your help.
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Those are merely different revisions of the same kernel. Use the newest one, 2.2.6,... that is, if your synergy build isn't on the newer gingerbread base. If it is, you're stuck with Ziggy's unless a working front facing camera and WiFi are features you couldn't care less about. On the newer gingerbread builds, Imoseyon's have proven faster than dreamkernel. Can't tell you why. From what I've seen of the latest Ziggy's, it simply cannot be clocked fast enough to keep up with Imoseyon or dreamkernel. Can't tell you much about the jdlfg. I thought that was an AOSP kernel. Never used it in any case.
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Those are merely different revisions of the same kernel. Use the newest one, 2.2.6,... that is, if your synergy build isn't on the newer gingerbread base. If it is, you're stuck with Ziggy's unless a working front facing camera and WiFi are features you couldn't care less about. On the newer gingerbread builds, Imoseyon's have proven faster than dreamkernel. Can't tell you why. From what I've seen of the latest Ziggy's, it simply cannot be clocked fast enough to keep up with Imoseyon or dreamkernel. Can't tell you much about the jdlfg. I thought that was an AOSP kernel. Never used it in any case.
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So if I'm on a newer gingerbread build I can't flash any other kernel? How do I know if I'm on a newer gingerbread build? I just flashed synergy rom I believe on July 20th or so, so I guess I am running the newer build.
If I do run lean kernel, my options are GB SENSE DOWNLOADS:
1) lean test, 1) 184Mhz test, 3) Stock kernel, 4) USBfix, 5) 2.5.3test7 kernel, 6) dreamKernel
Which of these would I want? Stock?
Also, it says the GB sense kernel is a test version and has bugs. Should I worry about that?
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So if I'm on a newer gingerbread build I can't flash any other kernel? How do I know if I'm on a newer gingerbread build? I just flashed synergy rom I believe on July 20th or so, so I guess I am running the newer build.
If I do run lean kernel, my options are GB SENSE DOWNLOADS:
1) lean test, 1) 184Mhz test, 3) Stock kernel, 4) USBfix, 5) 2.5.3test7 kernel, 6) dreamKernel
Which of these would I want? Stock?
Also, it says the GB sense kernel is a test version and has bugs. Should I worry about that?
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1 through 5 are all good. Dreamkernel is a bit different, but not bad. I'm using the test to write this on, so its quick and solid. If the nightly is that new, its probably the new base so using one of these will likely mess up your front facing camera and WiFi. Before you flash one of these, try Twistedumbrella's scriptfusion on that Ziggy kernel. That might be the best way to go at this point. If you have any question, hit me up.
I went on ziggy471.com, but I'm a little confused about which article to read about writing scripts. Is it this one? http://www.ziggy471.com/2011/04/07/vdd-smartass-and-cpufreq-sysfs-interfaces-and-how-to-use-them/
I'm kind of hesitant to use script fusion, as I don't want to mess anything up, so I was wondering if you could walk me through it? Or at least point me in the right direction on finding instructions? I looked at the page for scriptfusion, but I didn't understand what a lot of the things meant. I really don't know much about this stuff. If you think it will be too difficult for me, I will just accept not overclocking and hope the wifi issues will be fixed on the other kernels soon.
I alternated between leanKernel & dreamKernel on Gingeritis. Too bad imoseyon hasn't updated Sense leanKernel in almost 4 weeks. I guess he's sticking with cm7
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I am running chingys lastest 3d beta 5 and I have always used dreams sense kernals but this one came with ziggys and I have decided to try it out. Is it a bad idea to just use setcpu with ziggys kernal? I know your not supposed to use setcpu with speedtweak.sh but this kernal doesn't use that
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I am running chingys lastest 3d beta 5 and I have always used dreams sense kernals but this one came with ziggys and I have decided to try it out. Is it a bad idea to just use setcpu with ziggys kernal? I know your not supposed to use setcpu with speedtweak.sh but this kernal doesn't use that
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SetCPU works with ziggy's kernel. For the record, SetCPU works with speedtweak as long as you instruct speedtweak to ignore max/min freqs
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SetCPU works just fine for any kernel. The reason you don't want to use SetCPU with ScriptFusion is they both attempt to do the same thing using the same method; create a script that will alter your settings. The disadvantage of SetCPU is that it's an app that takes up resources. Not a whole lot, but it does. ScriptFusion takes up nothing because it executes the script at boot and it's done. ScriptFusion simply makes writing a fairly complex script fast and easy, but the end result is a script that is written to /system/etc/init.d. Ziggy's kernels allow you more options in scripting than ScriptFusion provides for, if you know how to write the script. Stuff like manipulating the behavior of the governors and the like. That link is correct, and he has answered questions regarding that script on the Synergy Development thread at infectedrom.com. I'd like to help more, but I couldn't even write a script for one of his kernels because his settings are subject to change with every kernel revision. You'd have to know the stepping for the the clock and voltages before you could do anything. That's easy enough to get using the "cat" command, but if you don't know much about linux commands, doing the stuff you need to do can be a little daunting. I would suggest using ScriptFusion, and do a nandroid first. Also, download the GuiltyVirdict which will remove all setting if something goes wrong. If you want to try a speed or voltage setting before applying it through speedtweak.sh, follow what's in that guide. You can do it either through the terminal on your phone or through ADB. I've tried all of it and it does work.
If you'd like to hit me up while you're messing with it, you can hit me up on yahoo messenger at [email protected]
I'm using imyosons gb test kernel on gingeritis 3d and its smooth as butter at 1.4
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I've been running Synergy Rom/Ziggy's Kernel for about 1.5 months now, minimum I've ran it at is 1.2, max is 1.6. I haven't tried to go above that, but I've never had any issues with it going south on me. I set up a few different profiles, and drop it to about 768 overnight (3am to 7am for me). It's worked like a champ.
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I'm using imyosons gb test kernel on gingeritis 3d and its smooth as butter at 1.4
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@sonami: battery life been just as good or better on his rom than Ziggy's?
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I went on ziggy471.com, but I'm a little confused about which article to read about writing scripts. Is it this one? http://www.ziggy471.com/2011/04/07/vdd-smartass-and-cpufreq-sysfs-interfaces-and-how-to-use-them/
I'm kind of hesitant to use script fusion, as I don't want to mess anything up, so I was wondering if you could walk me through it? Or at least point me in the right direction on finding instructions? I looked at the page for scriptfusion, but I didn't understand what a lot of the things meant. I really don't know much about this stuff. If you think it will be too difficult for me, I will just accept not overclocking and hope the wifi issues will be fixed on the other kernels soon.
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That's the right link. If you're reluctant to use scriptfusion, I'm not going to suggest doing a manual script, as that all scriptfusion does in a much easier way. Scripts are the only way to adjust a voltage to make a less than stable clock speed become stable. I get the strong impression virtually ever Tbolt can do 1.41GHz, if not 1.6GHz. Is you're on Gingeritus3D beta5 I'd suggest moving to 6 since Ziggy made noticeable changes to the kernel that improve speed and overclocking. The voltage scale on Ziggy's in beta6 shouldn't require voltage changes to achieve 1.41GHz. ScriptFusion isn't that scary. Give it a try. And if things go real sour, use guilty verdict.
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What rom do you like using and what kernel do you like to pair it with. What gives best performance, battery life, and stability. Das Bamf (unthemed), Lighting Rom (Light), Virus, boLTEd. Hoping to find something good. Thanks.
i keep adding little changes to my setup, but i dont see a rom replacing it any time soon
Das BAMF 1.2
Ziggy's 4/6 kernel at 1497/328 smartass gov
Imoseyon's tweaks
sk806 Power Control Widgets
lovin it..
Do you notice a difference with Imoseyons tweaks
The Thunderbolt having been released so soon, and knowing how development cycles tend to run, I don't really think enough time has elapsed yet for significantly divergent branches to have occured. As time goes by I think that each of the ROMS (and new ones, of course) will offer a more robust and distinct set of features.
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Do you notice a difference with Imoseyons tweaks
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i did when I first flashed them, now they're just there and it runs like a champ...i'll add them again when/if I switch roms..
So far I've tried Virus RC1B3 with ziggy's newest kernel (4/6/11), and now I'm on to the perfect storm V1.2 also with ziggy's latest kernel. Both are good. Snappy when compared to stock thats for sure. I ran stock deodexed for a few days to get a baseline.
With CWR in the picture... try a little bit of everything... you can always recover back to whatever you were on. Thats my plan at this point
You just flash in recovery? Wipe cache and davlik?
I'm just traded my inc2 for this tbolt and am surprised how much slower it is. I'm rooted on synergy Rom running 1.4ghz max 368 min and live all the other tons o have tried o have lag. I've tried higher clock but I reboot above 1.6. I ran the inc2 at 768mhz max and had no lag on a sense 3.0 and Rom and could max quadrent at 4096 at 1.8 ghz vs right at 2000 at 1.6 ghz for this tbolt what's wrong with my phone?
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The best performance I found was running Das BAMF Stripped 1.8, but I'm not running BAMF remix 1.8.6 because I with the new OTA radio I don't get reboots and the performance is good but not quite as good as stripped
Not that Quadrant scores are a good indicator of real-world performance (because they aren't) but after seeing your numbers, I decided to check on CM RC1.2. Take into consideration the same phone will produce different results on different ROMs, setups, tweaks, kernels, etc.
For me,
@1: ~2100-2300
@1.4: ~2800-2950
@1.8: ~3300-3550
Quadrant =! real performance, as Absolute_Zero said
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I'm not worried about quadrent but the overall slowness when scrolling screens, apps, typing it all lags. The only smooth time was on the alpha miui Rom and that's not useable.
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It's not your phone. You proly have a bad flash or corrupted rom image. Redownload the latest nightly & reflash. You will proly need to oc to at least 1.4ghz. I'm on Synergy also and I had a little lag at stock speed, but I oc'd and have no lag whatsoever.
Edit: I am using the Sense 3D carousel. I haven't removed any Sense elements, and I have no lag.
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Could be a nightly with one of Ziggy's hit or miss kernels too. Generally very good kernels, but sometimes he tosses out a real dud. Never understood the point of running a nightly unless you're a tester, or putting out a nightly if you have no solid release. Anyone wanna give me a clue?
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Could be a nightly with one of Ziggy's hit or miss kernels too. Generally very good kernels, but sometimes he tosses out a real dud. Never understood the point of running a nightly unless you're a tester, or putting out a nightly if you have no solid release. Anyone wanna give me a clue?
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Livin on the edge...
Some people love playing with new features as soon as possible. That doesn't really apply unless there are actually new features merged between nightlies.
Also, it's good to have lots of *knowledgeable/useful* testers on nightlies b/c you have a better idea of problems/kinks that still need to be worked out or if your last fix worked.
I do agree (and I've said as far back as I remember nightlies existing for CM) that n00bs should stay off nightlies b/c bugs occasionally do make it in and panic engulfs them.
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Before someone has a fit...Nightlies for other devices. Not Tbolt. There are no CM nightlies for Tbolt at this time.
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Could be a nightly with one of Ziggy's hit or miss kernels too. Generally very good kernels, but sometimes he tosses out a real dud. Never understood the point of running a nightly unless you're a tester, or putting out a nightly if you have no solid release. Anyone wanna give me a clue?
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Synergy nightlies are mostly minor revisions. A couple of days ago, there was a big update using the new GB base, but usually they are small updates like a new hosts file, or small changes to DConfig (a tweaking tool), or an updated WiFi module, etc. Nothing earth-shattering, but it feeds a flash addiction
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Im running themed bamf 5.0 and cpu at 1.2 with no lag. It runs well at .768, as someone noted above might be bad rom
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I'm running liquid thunderbread 2.3 and its the smoothest rom I've tried so far. I'm running imoyesons 3.5.1 AOSP kernel non overclocked. No lag what so ever...
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Livin on the edge...
Some people love playing with new features as soon as possible. That doesn't really apply unless there are actually new features merged between nightlies.
Also, it's good to have lots of *knowledgeable/useful* testers on nightlies b/c you have a better idea of problems/kinks that still need to be worked out or if your last fix worked.
I do agree (and I've said as far back as I remember nightlies existing for CM) that n00bs should stay off nightlies b/c bugs occasionally do make it in and panic engulfs them.
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I agree. Nightlies are for the seasoned user. I understand the purpose concerning CM; the need to toss out as many test build as possible to fix the quirks because they're building from the ground up. And usually nightly releases precede a RC or final release. I never saw anyone building beta builds, test builds, and release candidates for sense ROMs when I was on the dInc. It's a weird concept to me since the ROM is largely fully functional. I'm not a fan of the synergy ROM for a number of reasons. It would be the absolute last ROM I'd suggest to a new user, or even a good number of moderately seasoned users.
Alright - I'm not the type to ask questions if I haven't done hours of research already. Please do not tell me to google it, look harder, etc. Some of this stuff has frustrated me to no end, and some of you may be able to answer the question off the top of your head. So why not help out, right? ^^.
I did take a lot of time writing these questions out, and I know that it is quote a long read. If you only want to answer one here and there, that is fine. I GREATLY appreciate all help. If I sound mad at all during the read, please excuse that. If anything I'm a little frustrated, but definitely not mad at anyone or anything. I just want answers.
My Device:
3D with Silverlight/Netarchy-5 as the Kernel, and Synergy Rev. 316 2.3.3 as my Rom. So far, I have only been able to get a max quadrant score of 2600. Sort of disappointing compared to my last kernel/rom build, especially when I saw all the good Quadrant scores on Synergy's thread (and yes, I tested Ziggy's Stock Kernel too that came with it, but with no change in Quadrant scores).
I want to stick to 2.3.3 until they have overclocking for 2.3.4.
My old Kernel + Rom build was the RCMIX Kernel that could OC to 2050, and the Shooter Rewind 3D ROM. With this set-up, I was able to get a Quadrant score of 3,660.
Unanswered Questions (Or Questions I am still confused on):
2) In the Kernel threads, I always try to find which one will provide the best performance. I have a 4500 mah battery, so I usually can make almost anything last 2+ days for me. However, I'm not sure how to compare Kernels and determine what is better. This is what is listed under RCMIX:
V(R) I/O
SLQB
WIFI FIX
CIFS
TUN
NLS
WIMAX SUPPORT
Wifi Tweak to connect a weaker signal -108db over stock -88db
Under Silverneedle, the other one I think of using, it says:
- CIFS
- TUN
- Overclock up to 1.7ghz (this will likely be expanded in future builds)
- JHash3
- The usual assortment of build tweaks that those familiar with my previous work have come to expect
- Base updated to 2.6.35.14
HOW am I supposed to compare those two performance wise? Also, what does "TUN," "NLS," "V(R) I/O," and "SLQB," "JHash3," "CIFS," etc, mean? I'm assuming WIMAX is for 4g, but I'm not even entirely sure of that.
3) EXT4. I read the thread here, but a lot isn't explained. It says "You should only need to convert to ext4 optimized if you wipe data/nandroid" - is this just system data? I'm assuming it wouldn't wipe SD Card Data, correct? So basically it is like a Factory Reset? But then it says to flash "svn rev 450 or higher" after. Where would I get the Synergy's revised 450 version when I can only get the rev 316 version myself?
5) Virtuous OC MOD. Oh yes - this has probably given me the most trouble than anything. I used to use SetCPU. When I saw that Mod, I uninstalled it, installed virtuous, and it didn't work. I couldn't edit my files via terminal emulator given su permissions, via root explorer, anything. So I thought there was a conflict through some file left by setcpu and virtuous. SO I did a factory reset.
I then installed rev 316 synergy and RCMIX 4.2 with a 1.8ghz allowable OC on it, and also flashed the virtuous oc + dual core mod. First off, I have no clue what the difference is between DualCore VOC and DualCore 1.1 besides the fact that he said 1.1 solved some lag issue some were experiencing. So I installed that, naturally. Saw nothing change whatsoever. I then tried to edit my Virtuous OC files, which was a success! However, when I ran the command "cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq" - which is in his thread to determine if it is working, it showed the unedited number.
So I then did a normal reboot, in hopes it needed init.d to trigger, and I got stuck in an infinite reboot.
Lastly, I installed rev 316 by synergy again with silverneedle/netarchy 5 kernel. And that's where I am now. What did I do wrong?
6) Chainfire 3D / Turbo 3D (can't find link atm, but each are from the same creator). Will this help quadrant scores? What is this used for? Is it helpful?
8) What's the point of the V6 Supercharger for Android? How does it improve memory? Does it do the same thing as far as EXT4 is concerned? Is it already implemented in the current roms/kernels?
9) Besides my questions, is there a kernel or rom that you suggest for the best speed/performance, and why?
10) As far as Dual Core goes, as it been more bad than good? I've seen a lot of posts about people lagging with it on. Does it actually help?
11) Without any Dual Core mod on, what does the second CPU normally do anyways? Why would anyone make a dual-core phone without utilizing both dual cores? Or did we lose the dual core availability when we rooted our phones, and we are just now getting some beta beginnings of it back?
Thanks for anyone's time who reads any part of this, and thanks in advance to those who can answer some of them too.
Questions Answered (Thanks for those that helped!!):
If you believe there is more that could have been said in an answer, or that an answer is wrong feel free to add-on! Otherwise, I'm satisfied with the answers I have received and believe them to be right.
1) I've read through the Synergy thread, mostly the beginning and ending pages, and people talk about Revisions that are better than other (obviously). I just hooked up my SVN File Updater for the Nightly Updates, so would I not have access to anything later than Rev 316, but older than the current 2.3.4 version? I really would like to have access to the latest 2.3.3 build that works the best, which would probably include the EXT4.
1-Answer by life64x) 318 is the latest 2.3.3 and the last 2.3.3. Since they upgraded to 2.3.4
4) Let's say I backup my entire system apps + data using Titanium. Does that mean after I Wipe/Reset and go to a different rom/kern, or sense to aosp, that if I restored EVERYTHING, it would still work? Or should I only restore the things I "essentially" need?
4-Answer by life64x) Not all your system apps will be restored...sense...sense widgets etc. Data yes.. user apps will be restored. | I then asked "So titanium won't restore things incompatible with the ROM I am on, even if I hit restore all?" | Answer by life64x: That's correct becuase sometimes it won't let you...say different versions of rosie.apk or framework stuff that deals with sense UI.
7) What is "Cyanogen?" I don't understand if that is a type of software, group of people, or what the purpose of whatever that word is.
7-Answer by life64x and phatmanxxl)Cyanogen is the handle of a person that created a alternate android OS..away from manufacture stock software that is smaller and faster...bloateware removed, basic android is there. Cyanogen is also the name of the product from them. I forgot his name, but he developed a alternate source open source I might add for our phones and now tablets. Many phones have it and each phone has developers for it also. ASOP ROMs such as CM7 and MIUI are not available for the EVO3d yet, they are still in development.
Q. 4. Not all your system apps will be restored...sense...sense widgets etc. Data yes.. user apps will be restored.
Q. 7. Cyanogen is the handle of a person that created a alternate android OS..away from manufacture stock software that is smaller and faster...bloateware removed, basic android is there. Cyanogen is also the name of the product from them. I forgot his name, but he developed a alternate source open source I might add for our phones and now tablets. Many phones have it and each phone has developers for it also.
I am at lunch at work now and possibly later others will give the rest or when I get home from work I will try to do more. You have quite a bit and this thread will also help others.
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Q. 4. Not all your system apps will be restored...sense...sense widgets etc. Data yes.. user apps will be restored.
Q. 7. Cyanogen is the handle of a person that created a alternate android OS..away from manufacture stock software that is smaller and faster...bloateware removed, basic android is there. Cyanogen is also the name of the product from them. I forgot his name, but he developed a alternate source open source I might add for our phones and now tablets. Many phones have it and each phone has developers for it also.
I am at lunch at work now and possibly later others will give the rest or when I get home from work I will try to do more. You have quite a bit and this thread will also help others.
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Thanks for the information, I appreciate it a lot. So titanium won't restore things incompatible with the ROM I am on, even if I hit restore all?
That's correct becuase sometimes it won't let you...say different versions of rosie.apk or framework stuff that deals with sense UI.
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That's correct becuase sometimes it won't let you...say different versions of rosie.apk or framework stuff that deals with sense UI.
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Awesome. That answers that. Going back to cm7, is it mostly used for tablets? I don't see it for the 3d.
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Awesome. That answers that. Going back to cm7, is it mostly used for tablets? I don't see it for the 3d.
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ASOP ROMs such as CM7 and MIUI are not available for the EVO3d yet, they are still in development.
Q. 1. 318 is the latest 2.3.3 and the last 2.3.3. Since they upgraded to 2.3.4
Q.6. Don't worry about chain fire, unless you are a gamer. Regarding quadrant, it is crap. If you insist on going by it, take it with a grain off salt. Try other testing methods.
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ASOP ROMs such as CM7 and MIUI are not available for the EVO3d yet, they are still in development.
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Try VirusROM. It's a pretty good little AOSP ROM with some of those CM7 features like changeable desktop size, drawer size, custom rosie/launcher, custom animations.
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ASOP ROMs such as CM7 and MIUI are not available for the EVO3d yet, they are still in development.
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Ah - got it. So CM7 and MIUI are for original AOSP then? According to some threads, it is getting close. Should be interesting to watch. Thanks ^^.
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Q. 1. 318 is the latest 2.3.3 and the last 2.3.3. Since they upgraded to 2.3.4
Q.6. Don't worry about chain fire, unless you are a gamer. Regarding quadrant, it is crap. If you insist on going by it, take it with a grain off salt. Try other testing methods.
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Ah, I suppose I just read those posts wrong in that thread. I assumed that the 2.3.4 version started near revision 500. Definitely a bummer. I tried their latest 2.3.4 version just to see what it was like and it is much cleaner than the 2.3.3 rev 318 version. Guess I'll wait for an OC on 2.3.4 to go back to Synergy Sense.
As for "other testing methods" - what would you recommend? Anything in specific?
And what do you mean by "gamer." What would qualify as a "gamer" for HTC 3D? For example, I do play Legend of Zelda: Orcarina of Time on my phone ^^. It ran fine on RCMIX 2.2.3 and Rewind Shooter as long as I used SetCPU to 1728 max and 1080 min (or higher min, depending on if I had any problems). Haven't tried on my latest setup though.
Thanks again for your help!
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Try VirusROM. It's a pretty good little AOSP ROM with some of those CM7 features like changeable desktop size, drawer size, custom rosie/launcher, custom animations.
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I actually just flashed that yesterday night and am loving how much free RAM space I have. Currently have 305MB used and 497MB free. I love having extra space. I have a few problems with it, but nothing worth complaining over really. Stock Kernel that comes with it is probably best, right? Thanks for helping =-).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1224659&page=33
Use the dual core kernel less heat=save battery with performance increase by taking off the load on a single processor
any thoughts? just rooted it yesterday, was trying to figure out what the best kernel is
Stock, lol. Whatever comes on the ROM is going to be your best bet right now.
I am using stock rooted with ziggy kernel due to his having call recording enabled. Works well for me.
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I used Ziggy's for a few weeks but like most other users I found that it rebooted itself at least once a day no matter what the clock settings where (innefabilis ROM).
I switched to the OC dsb kernel & it has run absolutely perfectly ever since, but I don't see any huge advantage over just running the stock kernel at this point.
~John
rcrott1 said:
any thoughts? just rooted it yesterday, was trying to figure out what the best kernel is
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It depends on what ROM you're running to some extent. Also, people are having different experiences running the same ROM/kernel combo so ymmv.
I would decide on a ROM you want to try then read through that ROM's thread and look for issues people are having and what kernels they're using. Then read through the kernel threads and check for issues for it being used with the ROM you like.
It will depend on how you use your phone too. I've read where people running Ineffabilis ROM with ziggy's kernel are fine except if they let the phone charge to 100% while it's on it starts bootlooping. So I could never use that since I usually charge overnight and need to use the phone as my alarm clock. I went with dsb but haven't done any oc/uv tweaking yet.
You can always try one out and then change it if it's not working out for you.
I've personally used ziggy and dsb, I didn't notice much of a difference between either, but dsb was/is SUPER easy to flash, puts boot.img INS ph91img.zip on your sd and reboots to villager for easy install (ziggy might have done this to, I don't remember)
I also used both with inefabliss and didn't notice any issue with ziggy, but results may very!
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Running 6.1 build of ics, no issues at all with stock kernel but was wondering what you guys think of the glitch kernel paired with this rom? Should I make the plunge even though stock is working flawlessly or should I keep stock? I usually don't post questions and figure stuff out for myself but I want the community's opinion on it before I make up my mind. I know its ultimately my decision but any input positive or negative would be appreciated, if you are going to reply please post reasons and not just a yes or no response,
Thanks.
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I like glitch alot, but for now i would stick with stock...jmo
Well if it's working great, then don't try to fix something that isnt broken lol it would probably create more problems
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I'm running glitch b3 and...I definitely recommend it if you're into tweaking. Live OC makes a pretty big difference in performance to me.
I'd agree with sendan. You're not losing any functionality with glitch, only gaining features and performance.
Also, it's just a kernel, there's no harm in trying it out. If you don't like it, restore a backup or reflash the rom. It's not like you have anything to lose.
I like glitch too. A live oc around 114-116% and 13xx as max clock makes this phone run like a dream.
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bobloblaw1 said:
I like glitch too. A live oc around 114-116% and 13xx as max clock makes this phone run like a dream.
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Installed glitch, ran your settings and threw phone into a constant reboot. Had to flash build 1 and then 6.1 to get it back up and running. My phone doesn't play nice with glitch I guess :-/ lol
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mkuehl06 said:
Installed glitch, ran your settings and threw phone into a constant reboot. Had to flash build 1 and then 6.1 to get it back up and running. My phone doesn't play nice with glitch I guess :-/ lol
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Same problem for me too.
It's very touchy, nobody will disagree with that.
and thats why I posted what I did...glitch 13.1 runs great on mtd gb roms, but glitch 14b3 for ICS seems hit or miss on some devices. Im sure it will get better as development continues, until then sotck is probably the best bet for most.
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and thats why I posted what I did...glitch 13.1 runs great on mtd gb roms, but glitch 14b3 for ICS seems hit or miss on some devices. Im sure it will get better as development continues, until then sotck is probably the best bet for most.
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Yeah I understand man. The glitch runs fine on my phone if I don't tweak the CPU at all. Tweak it at all and the phone freaks out like a mf on crack or something lol.
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Sorry about that. My phone was running fine at 115% for about 24 and then it also threw a reboot fit like yours had.
I;m not really sure what caused it but I guess it's still a bit temperamental at this point.
bobloblaw1 said:
Sorry about that. My phone was running fine at 115% for about 24 and then it also threw a reboot fit like yours had.
I;m not really sure what caused it but I guess it's still a bit temperamental at this point.
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Yeah I think 1200mhz is about the most my phone will handle, and that's with 100%oc so maybe if I tweak it to 115 or something I'd have to drop it down a notch. I just don't feel like dealing with a reboot fit right now
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I have mine at 107%...tbh it gets ridiculously hot with anything much higher.
mkuehl06 said:
Installed glitch, ran your settings and threw phone into a constant reboot. Had to flash build 1 and then 6.1 to get it back up and running. My phone doesn't play nice with glitch I guess :-/ lol
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You could've just gone into recovery and erased your OC/voltage settings. Assuming you're using the glitch recovery, that is.
droidstyle said:
and thats why I posted what I did...glitch 13.1 runs great on mtd gb roms, but glitch 14b3 for ICS seems hit or miss on some devices. Im sure it will get better as development continues, until then sotck is probably the best bet for most.
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Every phone responds differently to OC, *especially* it seems, with the new LiveOC system in v14. I haven't seen any issues reported by people using v14 with completely stock settings, so I wouldn't call the kernel itself unstable, just the utilization of some of the features it includes. I also suspect that a lot of the people that report issues with glitch haven't read and/or taken the time to understand the LiveOC guide that is linked to in the glitch OP.
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You could've just gone into recovery and erased your OC/voltage settings. Assuming you're using the glitch recovery, that is.
Every phone responds differently to OC, *especially* it seems, with the new LiveOC system in v14. I haven't seen any issues reported by people using v14 with completely stock settings, so I wouldn't call the kernel itself unstable, just the utilization of some of the features it includes. I also suspect that a lot of the people that report issues with glitch haven't read and/or taken the time to understand the LiveOC guide that is linked to in the glitch OP.
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i agree...guess that i should of been more clear and said that most folks do not know how to properly setup v14 with nstools and can easily cause damage to the device...which is part of the reason i mention to stick with stock(if your not sure wth your doing lol). im currently running ths 6.1 with glitch 14 oc'd @ 1200mhz and undervolted -50 across the board, fiop/lagfree govenor and everything is working great.
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i agree...guess that i should of been more clear and said that most folks do not know how to properly setup v14 with nstools and can easily cause damage to the device...which is part of the reason i mention to stick with stock(if your not sure wth your doing lol). im currently running ths 6.1 with glitch 14 oc'd @ 1200mhz and undervolted -50 across the board, fiop/lagfree govenor and everything is working great.
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Well as of almost 12 hours ago or so, I'm running 105%liveOc 12xx setting, lag free and fiop, and seems to be no issues. I had to send my backup fas in for the ota brick that happened with a lot of peoples eh03 ota. Hopefully they send me a replacement cause we arent due for upgrading till October.
So until it comes back I'm a little hesitant to play with uv. I know the basics, but still don't wanna play the boot loop game
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droidstyle said:
i agree...guess that i should of been more clear and said that most folks do not know how to properly setup v14 with nstools and can easily cause damage to the device...which is part of the reason i mention to stick with stock(if your not sure wth your doing lol). im currently running ths 6.1 with glitch 14 oc'd @ 1200mhz and undervolted -50 across the board, fiop/lagfree govenor and everything is working great.
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Definitely agree that for most users the stock kernel is probably best, and it isn't really lacking any features the average user will miss. Except I thought I saw something about 6.1 not including voodoo sound? Not sure about others, but that's a must for me. Anyway, I'm personally running 110% liveOC with 1320mhz max with no undervolting and the phone feels really responsive a good part of the time. It's been good so far but I need to stress test it.
mkuehl06 said:
Well as of almost 12 hours ago or so, I'm running 105%liveOc 12xx setting, lag free and fiop, and seems to be no issues. I had to send my backup fas in for the ota brick that happened with a lot of peoples eh03 ota. Hopefully they send me a replacement cause we arent due for upgrading till October.
So until it comes back I'm a little hesitant to play with uv. I know the basics, but still don't wanna play the boot loop game
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I can definitely see being hesitant with the undervolting, and especially with being able to adust ARM and INT voltages. As I understand it, you could certainly end up with a brick if things are pushed too far.