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Hi everyone...
I want to ask if anyone managed to fix the Hero WiFi problem... If you haven't see all these threads in forums around the world about the same problem that we have on Hero, and the problem is that the Hero connects to the WiFi without any problems and starts working normally, but after few minutes it looks that its is connected, the WiFi indicator shows that the network is Excellent or good but when I try to open new pages, the browser says that the network has dropped or no access to the AP... I think this problem is well known here... so I was wondering if any one has managed to fix the problem, or is there any program, or update from HTC that I missed to fix this problem...
Thanks in advance for every one..
Hamo
I had the same issue with a linksys router, before I upgraded to the newest radio. Have you tried that?
kiratha said:
I had the same issue with a linksys router, before I upgraded to the newest radio. Have you tried that?
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really I have tried everything that I have found in last 4 month on the internet, but noting... same problem!!!
and i see there is a lot of people that have the same problem. think that HTC have not fix this yet...
thanks for quick replay..
Hamo
This appears to be linked to what router you are using. I have 3 different routers. 2 work fine 1 doesn't. The one that does not work is the newer most expensive Belkin MIMO router.
Some say that you should disable 11n and just use b and g, others say manually select channel. Not sure if either reliably works. Best way is to change the router. The one I am using at the moment is 7 years old, so you do not need hi-tech.
It's definitely not an N issue. I have 3 routers and have this problem with all of them. One is a WAP-11 running D-Link firmware, one is a WRT-54G running the most recent Tomato, and the other is one their early b/g routers running stock firmware. I've also tried the obvious tweaks with no improvement (different channels, different security settings, etc...). Also have the problem on both of our Heros. My wife's is still stock, mine is running the damagecontrol ROM (had the problem when it was stock, too).
I actually just got out of bed and sat down at my computer to research this exact issue. My wife and I both need data service for our jobs, and 3G coverage is lousy at our house no matter which carrier, so it's absolutely crucial that WiFi work well.
I've read bits and pieces on this forum and others that makes it sound like flashing a radio update could fix the problem. Is this accurate? It also sounds like people are having issues with bricking their phones after a radio update. Any truth there?
Google searches on the subject bring up mountains of irrelevant results to sift through, if anybody could save me a little time and point me in the right direction I'd be very, very appreciative.
(As someone who's worked in IT for over 20 years, I understand that there are always bugs and compatibility issues with technology. However, given that Linksys is the most popular brand of home router out there, I think it is inexcusable that the phone shipped with this issue. That Sprint and HTC have allowed it to go unremedied for this long is downright appalling. "Buy a new router" is NOT a solution that they should be able to get away with.)
Your problems may not be the same as the ones referred to by the OP. What are the symptoms? Can you connect at all to the routers?
The symptoms of the common problem that I was referring to is that you appear to be connected to the router but whenever you try to use the connection you get a connection error message despite your wireless settings appearing to show you are connected to the router. Are those your symptoms?
As I said I have two routers that work fine, one of which is an old D-Link DI524, the other being a newer Netgear WGR614. Both of those only have 11b & g and are running with original firmware. The one that does not work, the Belkin, has 11n, also running with original firmware.
For some flashing the original radio has worked. Others report that it makes no difference.
I have just noticed your reference to Sprint. In that case it may be better to start your own thread on the dedicated Hero CDMA forum, which deals with CDMA phones rather than the GSM phones that most of us have got. You could also try reading and asking here as well.
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Are those your symptoms?
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Pretty much exactly. WiFi will work for 10 minutes or so, then quit. Phone still says it's connected, excellent signal strength, and has valid IP configuration. Just won't pass any traffic.
I'm seriously considering flashing a newer radio version to see if it helps, but I've read accounts of bricked phones when people try to revert back to the original radio. I have to be able to get back to original because if I don't get WiFi working the phones will need to be returned since WiFi is not optional for us. (Sadly, I'll probably end up stuck with a Blackberry if we go that route, since WinMo is 100% out of the question.)
As an alternative solution, can anybody recommend a router that's currently available and known to work with the Hero? I would need it to support external antennas and be able to flash dd-wrt onto it.
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I'm seriously considering flashing a newer radio version to see if it helps, but I've read accounts of bricked phones when people try to revert back to the original radio.
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I've read a few reports of bricking while flashing radios, but in all cases it's been due to the user. The actual flashing takes place on the first reboot after the update.zip is applied in recovery. At this point the phone displays a graphic of a box and a phone with an arrow indicating transfer from box to phone. Apparently some people have freaked at this point, as they thought the update was already done & hence something must be wrong. As a result they pull their battery
I've not come across bricking reports specifically in relation to reverting back to the original radio. Got any links?
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I would need it to support external antennas and be able to flash dd-wrt onto it.
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I am not sure why you would need this. I also wonder whether flashing something different on to a router which works may stop it working. But then I may be showing the limits of my knowledge.
If it is any use to you I still use my Belkin router (it is both wired and wireless) for my usual wifi throughout most of the house and my office. The only thing I don't use it wirelessly for is the Hero (and an old printer with a LAN print sharer). I sat my old D-Link router on top of the Belkin and wired the two together using a LAN cable. So the wireless bit of the D-Link works for the Hero via the wired hub of the Belkin. I have exactly the same set up for the Netgear router, which serves another part of the house and is also wired in to the Belkin.
They both work fine piggy backed by wire on to the Belkin. The problem is only with the wireless bit of the Belkin, not the rest of it. So why not try a new router wired in to your existing one?
Both the two routers I have named work, but both are, I guess, no longer available new. Not sure if they were ever sold in the USA, given I am in the UK. But if they did why not try a used one on fleabay?
And I still think you would be better served posting on the specific Sprint forum. The Sprint version of this phone is a CDMA phone with different version of ROM than the GSM version which most of the rest of us use. The phones even look different!
Never had any problems with wifi on this phone.
Maybe i have this probelem now...
never had a problem before i rooted and updated radios etc on my phone...
Just rooted it today... so need to check it out a bit more.
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Yes, the wifi dies on me now.
I was using: 63.18.55.06JU_6.35.09.26
Reflashing to: 63.18.55.06JU_6.35.08.29 now...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=563757 Download Radios
63.18.55.06JU_6.35.08.29
Phone works better with this!
Wifi all the time now when i want.
The latest one was not so good...
From the Android forum...
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Hero/router compatibility list
As so many differing reports of wi-fi connection issues are appearing, I have thrown together a quick-and-dirty summary of known routers/APs mentioned in this and similar threads. Put simply, "Good" work with the Hero using WPA2, "Bad" don't work at all, and "Ugly" work but with limitations.
I don't claim that this is in any way definitive or scientific, but it should help anyone looking for help with an inop wi-fi link. Please post any further details you may have both on the listed hardware and any other devices, working or otherwise. The more info we have the better placed we are to help each other.
GOOD:
D-Link DI-524 (3.1.3b firmware on hw rev G2 only)
Draytek Vigor 2600G (2.5.9_UK firmware)
Linksys WRT54G (Tomato v? firmware; link still drops infrequently)
Linksys WRT54GL
Netgear DG834G
BAD:
Belkin F5D8636-4 (No WEP64/128, WPA/WPA2)
Gigabyte GN-BR01G
Zoom X6
Zyxel P-2602HW-D1A
UGLY:
Belkin F5D7230 (WEP128 only; No WEP64. WPA/WPA2)
Belkin F5D8321-4 (WEP128 only; no WPA/WPA2)
/Al
Add the following
GOOD
Netgear WGR 614
BAD
Belkin FSD9630-4
i had a similar problem with my ps3 and hero on a belkin router. all i did was update the router firmware and it all started working
Bad
Tiscali siemens gigaset router
amongst many others!
Tested on UK T-mobile and Orange Heros, Stock ROMs
Last night I was looking for a video on youtube on my photon, and my wife was searching on our old laptop. Both were connected to our WiFi router, and we were sitting right next to each other. The laptop was MUCH faster than the photon, and the photon kept hanging in the middle of videos.
I'm pretty sure it was a wireless issue. I turned off WiFi and ran it on 3G, and it ran faster with no signal drops! I went back to WiFi and the performance dropped significantly.
Any suggestions for how to improve the WiFi performance? Would a newer router help? The 2300 is tried & true, and I've always like it. Does WiFi channel matter? Other ideas?
I'm not rooted, if that matters for any response.
Jeffrey_L said:
Last night I was looking for a video on youtube on my photon, and my wife was searching on our old laptop. Both were connected to our WiFi router, and we were sitting right next to each other. The laptop was MUCH faster than the photon, and the photon kept hanging in the middle of videos.
I'm pretty sure it was a wireless issue. I turned off WiFi and ran it on 3G, and it ran faster with no signal drops! I went back to WiFi and the performance dropped significantly.
Any suggestions for how to improve the WiFi performance? Would a newer router help? The 2300 is tried & true, and I've always like it. Does WiFi channel matter? Other ideas?
I'm not rooted, if that matters for any response.
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What build version are you currently on? Have you flashed any of the updates or is the phone stock from Sprint?
I don't think a new router would help. My wifes nexus s 4g always has better signal strength than my photon when on wifi, I compared it to a friends Htc sensation connected to the same router and he had the better signal strength, and places where my evo 4g use to get a very weak signal but was still able to connect the photon won't connect at all.
Just some info to add to the OP....
I have a good router at home and a good one at work (different brands) and my WiFi is fast and smooth while at work but sometimes at home it is slow and chunky. Very sporadic at home for some reason and it never seemed to happen until after one of the updates.
CCallahan said:
Just some info to add to the OP....
I have a good router at home and a good one at work (different brands) and my WiFi is fast and smooth while at work but sometimes at home it is slow and chunky. Very sporadic at home for some reason and it never seemed to happen until after one of the updates.
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I have the same issue after the last "update". It seems to lose the wi-fi connection and keeps any network from connecting. I have to turn the wifi off and wait for the 3G to connect or I won't get any mail. I can't figure out what changed, but it used to work perfectly. I'm contemplating rolling back to the first update.
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What build version are you currently on? Have you flashed any of the updates or is the phone stock from Sprint?
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I have installed all OTA updates to date.
Build No. 4.5.1A-1_SUN-154_6
Ok, I bit the bullet and used RSD to roll back to the earliest version of the code (I didn't lose any data or even the location of the widgets on my screen) and it totally fixed the WiFi issues I've been having. Plus the battery seems to last quite a bit longer. I thought that the latest update was a loser, this just proves it.
I came to the conclusion on my own that the photon doesn't like any mixed wifi signals; i had my 2.4ghz router running with mixed b/g/n for wireless and it didnt play nice. Once i changed it to n only it worked way better.......
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Ok, I bit the bullet and used RSD to roll back to the earliest version of the code (I didn't lose any data or even the location of the widgets on my screen) and it totally fixed the WiFi issues I've been having. Plus the battery seems to last quite a bit longer. I thought that the latest update was a loser, this just proves it.
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I am experiencing the same wifi issues after updating to 198_6. Which version did you roll back to?
I would be interested in knowing what version also,, I'm sure if I did some research I can find out on my own in the meantime,,,,
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Sorry to be so late responding. I've been away from the forum for awhile (been out slumming with the iPhone crowd trying to see what the panic was about).
1FF-sunfire-user-2.3.4-4.5.1A-1_SUN-154_5-CM-release-keys-signed-Sprint-US.sbf
is the one I used. I just accidentally applied the OTA update and the WIFI issues returned. Back to the drawing board. I guess I need to do the "no OTA update" hack.
EXACTLY! This has been happening to me now on TWO Phones! I can't say that it's been just my home router though. I took my phone into the sprint store, hooked up to their wifi and same problem... Right off the bat it didn't connect to the market.
This happens at home and is super frustrating. I will get to browse a couple pages/apps/zedge then nothing. I've even had it go retarded enough to pop up the 3G icon as well as the wifi signal indicator...? No up/down arrows showed in the 3G to indicate data transfer but I was just like WTF?
So now when I leave my house, out of range of wifi, my phone blows up with e-mails, apps I've had in queue, etc.
I've noticed these problems more with the most recent update but I didn't spend too much time browsing without it though. Maybe I'll get a new one from Sprint and just never apply the update.
**EDIT: Both times I've received one of these phones the only update I've done is the most recent one. I haven't bothered checking the software version they are coming with. Is it possible they're no longer putting out the first update and these aren't cumulative? Just a shot in the dark but maybe I needed that first update before the second to make things jive. It's unlikely they would put out updates in this manner but I'm grasping for straws here.
kennypow3rs said:
I came to the conclusion on my own that the photon doesn't like any mixed wifi signals; i had my 2.4ghz router running with mixed b/g/n for wireless and it didnt play nice. Once i changed it to n only it worked way better.......
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My experience is different. The phone connects and works great at the office but not so great at home. Both routers are set on mixed. Not sure what the difference is (besides the brand of router). I do know the one at home is handing out IPs but the one at work is not. The server handles that.
Not sure what else could make a difference.
Just got my third Photon from the sprint store and same issue. This one already had the 42.5.7 update installed on it but wifi has been flakey. I'm convinced that it's something in the software combined with the wifi we are using. The ridiculous thing is I have a motorola SBG 900 that I use for wireless at home so you would think they would be compatible. I really like the phone otherwise so I hope a new update is right around the corner.
Just went and bought a $160 modem/router combo and my phone has no issues at all with wireless now...
Three Photons in a week and a good chunk of cash later and I can use wifi at home. And now that I've finally had time to play with it I find out wifi tether only does ad hoc natively.
I wouldn't mind having my Evo Shift back.
I'm having the same problem. I updated to 198_6 as part of the testing group and at first had no problems with Wifi. Now when I am connected to wifi (both at work and at home) I can't send or receive text messages, download from the market, nada. As soon as I connect back to 4G everything works perfectly. I'm gonna roll back tonight to the previous update. BTW, I also updated my PRL to 51082 and that didn't seem to help.
Is the problem basically where wifi is connected to the router then stops going past that? Like you still have an ip but no data?
If so try turning off notifications for gmail or turning off the "notify once option". This seemed to help me lose my connection to where i had flip on/off the wifi radio.
Let me know how you fare with this.
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Are you running any "turbo or super G" like modes set on the router? I remember reading on the motorola forums that these sometimes may cause issues - other things, router firmware update if applicable... do you have an airave device? If so, make sure the distance between that and the router are more than 5ft apart in distance.
Still, in your situation - streaming over the wifi shouldn't be an issue with bandwidth to keep in consideration, but realistically speaking - that should be better than 3g speeds for video playback.
These were some of the thing I had picked up from while troubleshooting an ongoing issue I am still having with my old d-link di-624 and photon getting stuck at "obtaining an IP address" on the official Motorola photon forums. In the latter situation, mine will connect if I reboot the router... my other tablets and laptops connect flawlessly on this.
I have searched all over and I don't find an answer, if I'm missing a thread please just point me in the right direction.
My home wifi has been working with my Note just fine since I got the phone (cue ominous music) up until yesterday. Last night, it started asking me for a password (which was weird, because it hadn't since I first got the phone and set the connection up), and I put the password in, but it kept saying "authorization error." I am really frustrated, I rebooted the phone, the router, removed the home wifi connection (the "forget" button) and reinput it -- I even booted into "safe" mode to make sure it wasn't some app -- no joy. It's a very simple linksys router, WPA/WPA2 security, all the other tablets/computers/phones in the house work just fine (tablets/other phone Android, laptops Windows.) And my Note was working just fine until last night -- no recent software install or update, it was seemingly just random. It's a stock Verizon Note, I haven't even bothered to root since it does everything I want.
Here's the kicker: I connect to OTHER public networks just fine. I connected to my work and McDonald's wifi this morning, no problems.
What could be wrong? I really need to be able to use my wifi at home, I don't see anything in Google or on the boards about this. I am hoping my search-fu is weak and someone knows what is up with this.
restore defaults on your router, then setup a new password.
Hope this Helps....
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I have searched all over and I don't find an answer, if I'm missing a thread please just point me in the right direction.
My home wifi has been working with my Note just fine since I got the phone (cue ominous music) up until yesterday. Last night, it started asking me for a password (which was weird, because it hadn't since I first got the phone and set the connection up), and I put the password in, but it kept saying "authorization error." I am really frustrated, I rebooted the phone, the router, removed the home wifi connection (the "forget" button) and reinput it -- I even booted into "safe" mode to make sure it wasn't some app -- no joy. It's a very simple linksys router, WPA/WPA2 security, all the other tablets/computers/phones in the house work just fine (tablets/other phone Android, laptops Windows.) And my Note was working just fine until last night -- no recent software install or update, it was seemingly just random. It's a stock Verizon Note, I haven't even bothered to root since it does everything I want.
Here's the kicker: I connect to OTHER public networks just fine. I connected to my work and McDonald's wifi this morning, no problems.
What could be wrong? I really need to be able to use my wifi at home, I don't see anything in Google or on the boards about this. I am hoping my search-fu is weak and someone knows what is up with this.
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I have been experiencing this problem for the past 4 days. I have owned my Note II since December 25, 2012 and it has been working on any WIFI AP ive tried. 4 days ago in the middle of the day, my phone started giving out "authorization error" and would not let me log in to my home WIFI. I have 4 computers, 3 smartphones and other devices all working perfectly in my home WIFI. My problem even occurred when connecting to open, unsecured WIFI AP also. Nothing seemed to work. I called Verizon and did all the steps leading up to factory reset. With no luck on any tricks or tips from them I called Samsung. They walked me through the same processes and everything, so I decided to do a factory reset. This did not fix anything. I still get "authorization error" and "wrong password" on any WIFI i try to connect to.
I found out yesterday if I stand within 5 feet of my WIFI router I can connect and browse the internet for a few minutes until it kicks me off and does the same old "authorization error". If I sign in to my WIFI within the 5 feet and walk away, it disconnects and again, gives me the error messages.
I called Verizon back and they are sending me a replacement phone.
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Try accessing your WIFI when you are right next to it.
If problems still persist, call your carrier.
I hope your phone isnt as busted as mine.
Argh, that's bad. At least my phone connected to open networks so I knew the hardware was ok -- I wiped the router and set it up again (per the suggestion in this thread) and I'm good for now. (Embarrassed I didn't think of that myself) Hope you have better luck with your replacement phone!
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I have been experiencing this problem for the past 4 days. I have owned my Note II since December 25, 2012 and it has been working on any WIFI AP ive tried. 4 days ago in the middle of the day, my phone started giving out "authorization error" and would not let me log in to my home WIFI. I have 4 computers, 3 smartphones and other devices all working perfectly in my home WIFI. My problem even occurred when connecting to open, unsecured WIFI AP also. Nothing seemed to work. I called Verizon and did all the steps leading up to factory reset. With no luck on any tricks or tips from them I called Samsung. They walked me through the same processes and everything, so I decided to do a factory reset. This did not fix anything. I still get "authorization error" and "wrong password" on any WIFI i try to connect to.
I found out yesterday if I stand within 5 feet of my WIFI router I can connect and browse the internet for a few minutes until it kicks me off and does the same old "authorization error". If I sign in to my WIFI within the 5 feet and walk away, it disconnects and again, gives me the error messages.
I called Verizon back and they are sending me a replacement phone.
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Try accessing your WIFI when you are right next to it.
If problems still persist, call your carrier.
I hope your phone isnt as busted as mine.
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Ok............ wow you have me 100% nervous now. I've been experiencing this issue ever since I unlocked, rooted and ROM'd my Note 2 back in the middle of December, and I experience the problem with only my Wireless-N SSID on my router. I can connect to the Wireless-G band just fine but the N one gives me this error no matter whether it's open or not. I seriously hope this isn't an issue of broken hardware..............
I figured this was worth mentioning. I have 3 Note 2's in my household, 2 of them are running Beans Build 5 and Perseus kernel overclocked and the other phone is totally stock.
All 3 phones have the exact same issue of connecting to the 802.11 N band on my router. They connect to the G band just fine. I think this rules out any worries about it being a lemon issue. Most definitely is a Samsung software issue that's been happening to multiple models going back a few years. Here's a google search of this issue using non-phone specific parameters. Notice how ALL phone specific forums point to a Samsung device.
I have a bad feeling that this is not something that will be getting resolved any time soon.
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The plot thickens. I have performed some tests on my router to see if I could get my phone to connect. Well here's my results:
5Ghz band = Wireless-N Only = Authentication error occurred
5Ghz band = Wireless-A/N Mixed = Connects instantly
2.4Ghz band = Wireless-N Only = Authentication error occurred
2.4Ghz band = Wireless-G Only = Connects instantly
The problem is clear. It's Wireless-N. I can connect just fine at Wireless-A speeds (54mbps max signal) and everything up to Wireless-G, independent of frequency, but as soon as I try to force Wireless-N onto my phone, it craps out and fails to authenticate. This happens regardless of whether I have the network encrypted or not.
And based upon my google search I have linked to in this post, I doubt this is something we can expect to be fixed anytime soon. Oh yeah and for the record, when I have my router set to Wireless-N only mode, I was able to connect instantly without error on my crappy old HTC Thunderbolt running a hacked together AOSP 4.0.3 ROM.
Yep............... GG Samsung
wireless n has been a unreliable joke since it was released...my favorite routers are the linksys wrt-54gl running linux dd-wrt firmware. one of the most affordable rock solid routers built. its only g band but most people do not need anything faster for home use. heck most of us cant afford the t1 type connection speed to utilize n band anyway.
Exact same problem as well...I'll have to try the Wireless N-only vs. Auto to see if that fixes it...
EDIT: Both wireless mode settings of 'N-only' and 'Auto' caused the problem. I had to set it to 'Legacy' in order to get the connection to stick without authentification errors. Have an ASUS RT-N66U router...
EDIT 2: Did the same thing on my Cisco E3000 and it worked as well.
Really looks like a Sansung wifi bug on the Note 2....
vortmax said:
Really looks like a Sansung wifi bug on the Note 2....
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It's not Samsung. There have been issues with myriad devices and wireless N pretty much the whole time it's been around. Android OS or the the N standard-- I personally know people with other manufacturers hardware and the exact same issues. If it's an OS problem, you would think it would be fixed by now, but who knows, like was mentioned above, very few people need the bandwidth that wireless n can theoreticly provide.
Good Luck,
Jason
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It's not Samsung. There have been issues with myriad devices and wireless N pretty much the whole time it's been around. Android OS or the the N standard-- I personally know people with other manufacturers hardware and the exact same issues. If it's an OS problem, you would think it would be fixed by now, but who knows, like was mentioned above, very few people need the bandwidth that wireless n can theoreticly provide.
Good Luck,
Jason
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It's definitely something specific with Samsung and the N2 since my cousin's G3 connects to the same router on 5GHz WirelessN/Auto with no issues at all. I think they have a bug to fix...
Can someone else perform a check with their Note 2 on a Wireless N only setting? It seems this is a bug that really need to be fixed.
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Can someone else perform a check with their Note 2 on a Wireless N only setting? It seems this is a bug that really need to be fixed.
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Mines been working on N only since I got it. Rooted and running about 6 different ROMs.
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I just had this issue come up when moving to an AOSP ROM this morning. I even nandroided to a previous ROM that had working WiFi and still not working. I restore defaults on my router and reset all my security settings. Still getting the same authentication error.
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For the people experiencing this issue, are you on 4.1.1 or 4.1.2?
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For the people experiencing this issue, are you on 4.1.1 or 4.1.2?
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I have tried roms that were 4.1.1 and 4.1.2 with no luck.
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I am pretty much to the point of using Odin to go back to stock and see if that fixes it. I went back to stock rooted rom that was my first backup and the problem still carries over.
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This is a new one on me and I'm pretty familiar with networking.
I recently bought a new Asus RT-N66U and took my network down the other day to put it in place of my previous router. I was having some weird issue and one of which was quite interesting indeed. Whenever I attempted to connect my wife's Evo LTE to the router the router would crash. Took me a while to figure out what was going on but once I did I was able to get it to do it every single time. I was having a few random issues with this router and it wouldn't take a firmware update so I determined that the router itself was DOA and was going to RMA it for a new device. So, I went back to my previous router. For the record it's a Linksys/Cisco E3000 flashed with TomatoUSB that has functioned flawlessly for years now. The only thing these two routers share is probably the Broadcom chipset and I think that's about it as the N66U is a much better device from about every perspective. I got everything set up again and was relaxing in bed watching the Heat game tonight (Go Heat!) and my wife asked if her phone was on WiFi which reminded me that I forgot to connect her Evo again. My 2.4GHz side is pretty congested with smart TVs, security cameras and all sorts of antiquated devices so I wanted to put her phone on the 5GHz side of the old router as I was pretty sure that it had been on the 2.4GHz side the previous time w/o issue. The moment I enter the key and hit connect the router crashes and I lose the game (networked tuners) and had to pause to think if I actually put the old router back in place or not. So, it appears as though this problem occurs on BOTH routers and only with this one Evo LTE so I've narrowed it down to her device. Both her's as well as mine are running the same everything pretty much so I'm not sure what is causing the problem but it doesn't appear to be end-user adjustable. I've never experienced this personally with a wireless client but have heard of rumors of it happening. Most times crappy network gear is blamed but in this case these are two very solidly performing devices and I also have another copy of the client that is functioning on 5Ghz fine.
So, what say you? Any ideas on what the fix is for this other than not using the 5GHz band? Until I finish my PoE switch and running network cable to all my security cameras my 2.4GHz side is pretty maxed so I'd rather not use that even if it does work. Surely there's something I'm missing here that I can correct to resolve this issue.
Anyone seen this one? I'm thinking it could have something to do with the WPA2+AES handshake because I don't think I was running that encryption on the previous router and her phone connected fine. But, again, my Evo LTE is running that same encryption on this router and no problems at all. It appears to be a device specific problem but I'm not aware of any way to get to advanced WiFi settings or reset this piece of the phone w/o doing a factory reset or ??
There have been some threads on similar experiences. Try updating firmware and or trying consistency with authentication methods. From the past issues, nothing specifically to do with networking just compatability with different platforms. I use the Netgear N700 series with multiple platforms and never had any issues as of yet. Good luck.
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waterbound said:
There have been some threads on similar experiences. Try updating firmware and or trying consistency with authentication methods. From the past issues, nothing specifically to do with networking just compatability with different platforms. I use the Netgear N700 series with multiple platforms and never had any issues as of yet. Good luck.
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The symptoms occurred with the shipped firmware on the router ending in .260 and it also occurred after I updated to the newer .270 firmware. I also attempted to update PRL and Profile of Evo LTE and the behavior still occurred. I would also like to point out that there was no firmware change on the previous router and it didn't occur before changing to WPA2+AES and did occur after with that one device (the other Evo LTE we have displayed none of these symptoms under any conditions nor have any of the dozens of other wireless clients present) so I'm leaning towards the encryption type but it's odd that it's only being caused by a single client on the network. Also, no amount of firmware updates or changes have affected the behavior. All of this was ruled out before ever creating this thread.
OK, I've seen a lot of posts in various forums about this issue, but have yet to find a single thread that captures all the details about what I've experienced. Let me know if I should move this conversation into a different thread.
On my home wifi network, I am able to connect, but constantly receive the error "internet connection is unstable", and I cannot pull any data over wifi. I noticed this issue on my home network after returning from a business trip this week. I'd previously seen the issue occasionally in hotels, etc, and had already disabled the "Passpoint" and "Auto network switch settings". That seemed to work on the road, but now that I'm at home, I'm unable to pull any data over wifi.
My home router is a TP-Link Archer C7, running the latest firmware.
Per Verizon and Samsung's advice, I cleared the cache partition, "forgot" and reconnected to the network, tried using safe mode, and tried a factory reset of the phone. I also restarted the router and changed the router's broadcast channels.
Last night, I rooted the phone via Kingo and installed the Jelly 'Beans' rom using SafeStrap, since I wasn't getting satisfactory answers from support. To my surprise, the issue also occurred on the new rom. I'm not an Android expert, but it seems like this means its either:
1) a hardware issue, or
2) a lower-level software issue (radio firmware? not sure how that works)
I removed root and safestrap, to continue support options with Verizon, but I wanted to ping the community here for suggestions. The timing is confusing to me. I'm pretty sure, though not certain, that I've used my home network successfully since the 12/17 OTA update. However, since so many others are seeing issues, it seems unlikely that this is a hardware issue.
Could others describe their issues and router, so we can look for patterns? Let me know if I should move this into a different thread.
Thanks!
Mine does the same thing from time to time but only on certain roms
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yeah, I'd seen intermittent issues previously, but all of a sudden it stopped working at home entirely. Still connects to some other networks, although not all.
After seeing a bunch of posts on the Verizon forums (and just the general timing and behavior of the issue) it seemed like a software problem.
Verizon is actually cooperating, so I may just end up replacing this phone. Wondering if anyone else has seen wifi completely break like this.
This is the only thing I can not stand about my note
I have a Zyxel WAP3205 WIFI access point (Wireless G) that I use at both work and at home.
At home, I have Comcast Business Cable internet, and have absolutely no issues connecting to it. The WAP is connected to a Belkin N600 router, which is then connected to my cable modem (not sure of the model, shouldn't matter TBQH).
At work on the other hand, I have constant connection issues. Albeit, I don't get the 'connection is unstable' notification, but I get constant connect/disconnect problems. I also have almost no (most of the time I can't even send/receive text messages at my desk.....) phone signal (ie not even 1X). I'm not sure if that plays into it at all either. The company I work for uses Windstream for their ISP, and it's complete crap to be perfectly honest. Needless to say, it doesn't change the fact that I'm connecting to the internet through the same device (well, same model/firmware/etc...), and I'm having issues at 1 place and not at the other.
I might also add that my tablet (Nexus 7 2013 running CM11) doesn't seem to have these issues at all and works just fine via the WIFI.
That's about the only information that I can provide. I know my internet where I work is complete crap. I sometimes remote desktop back to my home server to browse the web and download files via that because it's actually faster. I'm not even kidding.
I have 2 routers at home and have experienced the same issue as well and none of my other devices have this problem
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Verizon is shipping a replacement phone to me tomorrow, so I'll test this out and see if it makes a difference. I'm on the road until Thursday, so it'll be a few days before I can check on my home router.
The behavior on this issue just seems strange. It began intermittently, but then completely stopped working at my house (but still sometimes works elsewhere). Lots of people report intermittent issues, but a few seem completely broken. Not sure what to make of it, I'm just glad I was able to get a different device out of Verizon. We'll see if that actually fixes the problem.
I haven't had this notification until I got the Note3. Is it possible that its android 4.3? Or this tw 4.3? Anybody know if other folks get this with other devices?
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I haven't had this notification until I got the Note3. Is it possible that its android 4.3? Or this tw 4.3? Anybody know if other folks get this with other devices?
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I only have this problem if I connect to the wifi at work, which is odd because I'm about 7 unobstructed feet away from the AP. I don't get this anywhere else.
I had a Note2 on stock rom up to 4.3 and never had the issue. I have a 2012 Nexus 7 latest version, again, no problem. It's only on my Note3 with stock rom that this happens.
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I only have this problem if I connect to the wifi at work, which is odd because I'm about 7 unobstructed feet away from the AP. I don't get this anywhere else.
I had a Note2 on stock rom up to 4.3 and never had the issue. I have a 2012 Nexus 7 latest version, again, no problem. It's only on my Note3 with stock rom that this happens.
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It happens on custom roms too.
I've asked a couple devs if they could remove it and they said it been like that in android for along time.But I never experienced it until my Note 3
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I only have this problem if I connect to the wifi at work, which is odd because I'm about 7 unobstructed feet away from the AP. I don't get this anywhere else.
I had a Note2 on stock rom up to 4.3 and never had the issue. I have a 2012 Nexus 7 latest version, again, no problem. It's only on my Note3 with stock rom that this happens.
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Same here. Never happened on my Note2 but happens all the time on my Note3. I have two Linksys Routers at home for full house coverage and I can be in the next room and get that message. Just got it earlier. Same routers as I had with the N2 a few months ago. My Tablet, nor the Spouses HTC One Max have that issue and are connecting just fine, and stay connected.
I get this all the time. Got it on stock as well. Only really happens with my ghetto satellite Internet though lol
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Has anyone with this issue installed AdBlock and/or an ad-blocking HOSTS file? I didn't start seeing this problem until I did both.
Whenever I see this message I can go into the speedtest.net app and pull a continuous 60mbits down, pretty much maxing my connection, and I never see any actual stability issues.
I think the system may have some connectivity test that's being interfered with but I haven't had time to go digging through the logs yet, so I wanted to see if anyone else had done what I did to trigger it first.
Seems to be two different issues being discussed here without really differentiating the two... the OP states that he is always getting the notification and "can't pull any data over wifi" ... others are saying they are getting the notification without really stating if it is affecting their overall wifi performance at all.
I'm on AT&T DSL... I was getting the notification ALL THE TIME while using the supplied (4 year old) AT&T 2Wire router and it would fail and freeze and disconnect and it was DRIVING ME NUTS... so i went out and got a brand new Netgear N300 router and problem is solved ... mostly
I'm still using the AT&T 2Wire as a modem... disabled it's internal wifi... ethernet cable to the Netgear. .. and BINGO!!! All my connection problems and data problems have gone away... i still get the unstable notification maybe once or twice a week but i figure that's a DSL thing... any little glitches in Internet availability will be detected by the device and displayed so that doesn't bother me at all.
It's almost like this phone does ping tests all the time and if one doesn't come back properly it throws the notification...
i was at a friends house the other day and was getting the notification constantly but was still able to watch YouTube videos and Netflix without much problem... so i did some speed tests on his wifi and his ping and upload were all over the place... His download speed was solid between 20 and 28 but his upload was never even close to normal and failed several times... and his ping was good on some and took forever on others... i also noticed Web pages would sometimes take forever to start loading ... Once they started loading they did so quickly but the start was painfully slow a lot of the time... This would indicate to me that the ping or upload connection has issues or maybe over congested on his iSP.
Anyway... hope this helps others iron things out
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Seems to be two different issues being discussed here without really differentiating the two... the OP states that he is always getting the notification and "can't pull any data over wifi" ... others are saying they are getting the notification without really stating if it is affecting their overall wifi performance at all.
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When I get the notification, it refuses to use the wifi at all.
I haven't noticed any problems with my WiFi. I host 6 wireless networks, and play with WiFi a lot, War driving, and wireless network setup is a hobby of mine.
One thing I noticed at several throttled Hot Spots My VZW note 3 would test the WiFi speed, if it was slower than 4G it would display a popup, something to the effect "Wireless too slow, using mobile Data" I can't remember the exact popup text. It might be a VZW thing.
I use the OOKLA speedtest, free from the play store. (After you run your OOKLA test, for fun drag the speedometer down to reveal some cool messages about Ookla!
A few wireless router settings I use:
Set 2.4 to N 20 Megs max. N 40 or AC mostly just creates problems with connections, and the neighborhood.
Channels 1, 6, or 11 in USA Use a WiFi analyzer app and pick a less cluttered WiFi channel.
Place wireless router up high away from electronics, construction, and stuffs. Mine is on a pedestal in a window.
SM-N900V DE Running JellyBeans V6
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One thing I noticed at several throttled Hot Spots My VZW note 3 would test the WiFi speed, if it was slower than 4G it would display a popup, something to the effect "Wireless too slow, using mobile Data" I can't remember the exact popup text. It might be a VZW thing.
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Go to WiFi settings/advanced/auto network switch... and turn that off so it won't jump off slow WiFi networks
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Go to WiFi settings/advanced/auto network switch... and turn that off so it won't jump off slow WiFi networks
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Thanks,
I just tested "auto network switch" on and then off. It let me connect to one of my throttled networks, without; "Checking quality of internet connection".
I noticed that it only showed; "network disabled because internet connection is slow" on the congested 2.4 GHz band, not with same router on 5.8 GHz.
Radio interference, location, and router settings, can cause many problems on wireless networks.
b00mb00mchuck said:
Seems to be two different issues being discussed here without really differentiating the two... the OP states that he is always getting the notification and "can't pull any data over wifi" ... others are saying they are getting the notification without really stating if it is affecting their overall wifi performance at all.
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You're right, I noticed in my research that multiple issues seem to be getting lumped together. I think you're correct in that it's related to the router as well, somehow. I see the notification occasionally on slow hotel connections, but it's intermittent, my problem at home seems permanent. I can use some other wifi networks without problems, though.
That said, I used this phone on my home router for a couple months before ever seeing this problem. I'm guessing it's a combination of the 12/17 OTA update, and particular router models.
Verizon sent me a replacement phone, and it's running the previous build (MJ7 instead of MJE). I'll check things out tonight, and will report back.
Alright, the issue seems resolved on the new phone. This seems to suggest that it is related to the MJE build. So far this phone hasn't asked for an update, but I'm hoping Verizon doesn't break this again for me