I am currently running superclean 2.9. There doesn't appear to be touchwiz on here. If i want a new kernel am i looking for an AOSP kernel? Does that mean non touchwiz? Or am should I flash a touchwiz kernel?
I am also currently running an eb01 voodoo kernel. When flashing a different voodoo kernel do i need to dissable lag fix? and if so how can i make sure it is dissabled?
AOSP and Touchwiz are two completely different things. Touchwiz roms are those that use Samsung's Touchwiz UI and are based off unofficial OTA releases. AOSP is Android Open Source Project, and is a pure Google rom. AOSP roms includes MIUI, Cyanogenmod, and basic AOSP roms. Flash touchwiz kernels with touchwiz roms, and AOSP kernels with AOSP roms. If your on voodoo already and want to flash another voodoo kernel, then there's no need to disable it, just proceed on flashing the kernel like normal.
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Even though superclean 2.9 doesn't appear to have the touchwiz interface I would still use a touchwiz kernel since it is based on the samsung leak?
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Even though superclean 2.9 doesn't appear to have the touchwiz interface I would still use a touchwiz kernel since it is based on the samsung leak?
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Yes. Most kernels are for that, unless they specifically state that they are for AOSP.
It doesnt matter if it has the touchwiz theme or not. Samsung roms are touchwiz based. That's how they built it. And super clean is a touchwiz rom.
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I'm gonna flash dark revenge. Its kb01 based.. Can I flash other newer kernels? Or do I have to use a kb01 voodoo kernel? .. And does the kb01 kernel have voodoo sound and bln?
Edit: I mean eb01
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Also, if I flash over sc 2.9.2 . Will I even need to flash a kernel?
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Newer kernels (eb16, ec10) are fine, as are non-voodoo kernels.
If you want voodoo color, sound, and bln you need a source built kernel. Jt, imnuts, times_infinity, and nemesis2all have recent threads in the development forum containing kernels for touchwiz based roms (i.e. sc, darkrevenge ... basically anything except vanilla, cm, or miui) with these capabilities.
Superclean includes a stock kernel when flashed. You can flash another kernel afterwards if you wish.
Basically, all recent 'Touchwiz' named kernels in the development section are good to flash and are fully compatible with EB01. Just make sure to not flash 'AOSP' named kernels, as thats for CM, AOSP, and MIUI roms.
Thanks guys
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I love my fascinate. But there are some minor things I can't stand about the phone, mainly in how limited some options are and inability to remove some stock apps.
I tried a custom rom before, frakenclean I think, and while I loved the options it gave me I could not stand the way the phone would crash. The phone crashed almost daily. So I went back to the stock rom.
I miss the option to turn the 3g on and off, not having the Is there a reliable/stable rom that won't crash on me?
Custom roms have never had issues for me, you might have gotten a bad build. You should try out the gingerbread roms, they have the best performance and awesomeness you can get for our phones. If you want to stay on froyo try powerwashed or comrom.
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Custom roms have never had issues for me, you might have gotten a bad build. You should try out the gingerbread roms, they have the best performance and awesomeness you can get for our phones. If you want to stay on froyo try powerwashed or comrom.
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Hi SageDieu,
I currently have a Telus Fascinate (SGH-T959D) which is running Stock Gingerbread + Rooted.
I'm wondering if you could point me in the right direction to where I can find custom gingerbread ROMs for my phone.
I have yet to feel comfortable with some of the ROM's I've looked at here in the forums.
Any suggestions?
Thanks!
The only rom thats not on xda is tsm pool party. You can find that on rootzwiki. Anyway imo powerwashed ed05 and com rom are the 2 most reliable roms. The gb roms still have a few minor issues, but most things have been fixed. I will be jumping over to pwgb soon as a voodoo kernal is released.
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The only rom thats not on xda is tsm pool party. You can find that on rootzwiki. Anyway imo powerwashed ed05 and com rom are the 2 most reliable roms. The gb roms still have a few minor issues, but most things have been fixed. I will be jumping over to pwgb soon as a voodoo kernal is released.
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Thanks for the info. I took a look over at the 'rootzwiki' forum and I didn't see much that really indicates custom ROMS will work with my Fascinate.
Has anyone here that has a Telus Fascinate (SGH-T959D) running Stock Gingerbread updated there ROM or Kernel yet?
I would really like to get CWM back on my phone
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Has anyone here that has a Telus Fascinate (SGH-T959D) running Stock Gingerbread updated there ROM or Kernel yet?
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I don't think there has ever been a custom rom created specifically using a Telus Fascinate rom as a base. Just custom kernels.
I'm currently running Darky's Rom 10.2 RE , flashable directly via odin/heimdall
It's GT-i9000 based Gingerbread 2.3.4 with some tweaks and it's own custom kernel. You get to choose from stock Gingerbread launcher or Touchwiz 4.5 (launcher from SGS II with some tweaks).
You need to do some tweaking to get your home/back button fixed, but I find its insignificant to the benefits of running a (i9000-based) custom rom. I've never had the phone crash on me from normal use, so I consider it very stable.
I think the OP and others are talking about the Verizon Fascinate which is completely different from our Telus Fascinate. There has been confusion in the past which resulted in bricked phones so please be careful when talking about custom roms for "Fascinate"
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Thanks for the info. I took a look over at the 'rootzwiki' forum and I didn't see much that really indicates custom ROMS will work with my Fascinate.
Has anyone here that has a Telus Fascinate (SGH-T959D) running Stock Gingerbread updated there ROM or Kernel yet?
I would really like to get CWM back on my phone
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Crap I looked over the fact your telus... I have not seen any rom development for you. Take a peek at the dark'y rom that Japots suggested.
Japots said:
I don't think there has ever been a custom rom created specifically using a Telus Fascinate rom as a base. Just custom kernels.
I'm currently running Darky's Rom 10.2 RE , flashable directly via odin/heimdall
It's GT-i9000 based Gingerbread 2.3.4 with some tweaks and it's own custom kernel. You get to choose from stock Gingerbread launcher or Touchwiz 4.5 (launcher from SGS II with some tweaks).
You need to do some tweaking to get your home/back button fixed, but I find its insignificant to the benefits of running a (i9000-based) custom rom. I've never had the phone crash on me from normal use, so I consider it very stable.
I think the OP and others are talking about the Verizon Fascinate which is completely different from our Telus Fascinate. There has been confusion in the past which resulted in bricked phones so please be careful when talking about custom roms for "Fascinate"
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How do you fix these buttons? I am having issues with the buttons on miui and am unable to fix the home and search buttons.
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How do you fix these buttons? I am having issues with the buttons on miui and am unable to fix the home and search buttons.
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Refer to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1004314
Basically, you need to mopdi melfas_touchkey.kl (may be different in MUIU) file in /system/usr/keylayout/ to assign the proper function (ie, HOME, SEARCH) to the proper button key.
The thread has a flashable zip, but I'd recommend using a root-capable file explorer (like Root Explorer [padi] or ES File Manager [free]) to edit the file.
I find custom roms very reliable. Sometime more reliable then stock roms.
Hi everyone, can someone point me out where I could find an ics stock rom that doesn't have touchwiz?
All the versions that I've found are custom, but I would like to try one that hasn't been messed around by Samsung. I really want to try out ICS with the original look.
Regards
I'm lost, you want a samsung stock rom -because you have a samsung device- without the samsung's touch?
I want Android 4.0.4 without the touchwiz interface, isn't that possible?
well...you're talking custom now....but I think you don't want custom...lol that's the thing.
Maybe I didn't explain myself properly in the first post, i basically want a version of 4.0.4 with the normal look. So yes it ends up being a custom :laugh:
I thought there was a stock version of ICS (from another manufacture) that would work on the GSII, therefore not having touchwiz.
I got what you said. I'm trying to make you see what you're asking for.
You want ICS, 4.0.3.
You don't want TouchWiz
You don't want a custom ROM.
You have a Samsung device.
You want a Stock Samsung ROM.
Samsung uses touchwiz on it's ROMs
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Hi everyone, can someone point me out where I could find an ics stock rom that doesn't have touchwiz?
All the versions that I've found are custom, but I would like to try one that hasn't been messed around by Samsung. I really want to try out ICS with the original look.
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This is probably the closest you can get to stock Android..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2076650
Alternatively you could try Cyanogenmod 9 (ICS) or 10 (JB). They are based on pure android (AOSP) but have lost of tweaks and features and are generally much better then stock AOSP.
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I got what you said. I'm trying to make you see what you're asking for.
You want ICS, 4.0.3.
You don't want TouchWiz
You don't want a custom ROM.
You have a Samsung device.
You want a Stock Samsung ROM.
Samsung uses touchwiz on it's ROMs
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When I said "stock" I didn't meant a stock rom from samsung, I presume that there is a stock version of Android 4.0.4 (the one I was referring to) and then Samsung changed it with touchwiz.
I didn't (past) want customs since I presumed that there was an official stock version of Android without touchwiz for the GSII, apparently there isn't, so I ended up asking for a custom rom without knowing it was the only way of having what I want.
So to sum up:
I want ICS 4.0.4 (or 4.0.3, don't know the difference)
I don't want Touchwiz
That's it, sorry for the confusion
TheATHEiST isn't that rom Jelly Bean? My battery is already taking a beating with ICS, JB will probably last a lot less right? Although i'm already undervolting and underclocking
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When I said "stock" I didn't meant a stock rom from samsung, I presume that there is a stock version of Android 4.0.4 (the one I was referring to) and then Samsung changed it with touchwiz.
I didn't (past) want customs since I presumed that there was an official stock version of Android without touchwiz for the GSII, apparently there isn't, so I ended up asking for a custom rom without knowing it was the only way of having what I want.
So to sum up:
I want ICS 4.0.4 (or 4.0.3, don't know the difference)
I don't want Touchwiz
That's it, sorry for the confusion
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It's clear The post from TheATHEiST should be the answer to your question.
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But he want ICS.....
@OP There's no confussion, what you want is a custom rom, because you have a SAMSUNG device, and samsung devices, when in STOCK ROMs, always have TouchWiz attached.
Here's an example:
Samsung releases ROM (TouchWiz included of course)
John Q takes that ROM and deletes TouchWiz.
John Q now has a Samsung ROM without TouchWiz. Also Called CUSTOM ROM.
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But he want ICS.....
@OP There's no confussion, what you want is a custom rom, because you have a SAMSUNG device, and samsung devices, when in STOCK ROMs, always have TouchWiz attached.
Here's an example:
Samsung releases ROM (TouchWiz included of course)
John Q takes that ROM and deletes TouchWiz.
John Q now has a Samsung ROM without TouchWiz. Also Called CUSTOM ROM.
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CM9 is ICS. And the OP could flash an older version from other roms that are ICS.
Also he could download another launcher from the Play Store.
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Donnie Sins I already tried other custom roms, but I'd like to go for the basic ICS with no visual changes for now... Doesn't launchers use too much juice?
god......
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Donnie Sins I already tried other custom roms, but I'd like to go for the basic ICS with no visual changes for now... Doesn't launchers use too much juice?
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Then flash CyanogenMod 9 like TheATHEiST allready said. And no, launchers replace each other, but that isn't important now because you want CM9.
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gastonw I was answering to #7 an #9 before I edited my post, it's hard to respond or edit with a minimum 5 minute wait designed for new members.
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Alternatively you could try Cyanogenmod 9 (ICS) or 10 (JB). They are based on pure android (AOSP) but have lost of tweaks and features and are generally much better then stock AOSP.
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Then flash CyanogenMod 9 like TheATHEiST allready said. And no, launchers replace each other, but that isn't important now because you want CM9.
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I always though CM9 had a different interface but apparently it does not. Seems like the perfect way to go
Thanks guys.
Enjoy CM9 then.
After BRICKING my GT-i9100 I managed to restore from here with a stock rom......not sure if this helps.:fingers-crossed:
http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/mobile-ap...ck-android-rom-on-samsung-galaxy-s2-50007880/
every stock ROMs you flash into an S II will have TouchWiz, just because it's samsung interface.
Nah, he was asking for an AOSP rom like CM, not a way for bricking and restoring
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Nah, he was asking for an AOSP rom like CM, not a way for bricking and restoring
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He want's an AOSP that is not customed, "the real ICS experience" he said, no custom, stock.
Samsung guys are having a laugh right now.
2 questions. I've been searching but can't seem to get a clear answer. From what I understand only TW based ROMs work with ME7 Safe Strapped S4. But there are two ROMs that AFAIK are non-TW based. Those are Eclipse GE and the GPE.
First question is, are there any other non-TW ROMs that work?
2nd question is, how do those two ROMs work if they aren't TW based? What would it take for say LiquidSmooth 2.37 to work with an ME7 Safe Strapped S4?
Thank you.
Eclipse is tw based on me7 build...considered "stock" for safestrap...no asop or cm Roms/kernels work in safestrap
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Eclipse is tw based on me7 build...considered "stock" for safestrap...no asop or cm Roms/kernels work in safestrap
powered by hashcode safestrap hyperdrive 10.2
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2363813
Specifically this ROM. It's based on the Google Edition of the phone. It is not running TouchWiz at all.
Try whatever you want on a ROM slot, if you do it under a ROM slot you don't have to worry about bricking, that's the "safe" part of safestrap. Running a true AOSP ROM such as LiquidSmooth would require kexec support for safestrap, which at this point probably isn't going to happen.
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I believe Google edition ROMS are all TW based if I remember correctly. Or they use the TW kernels, which is why they should work with safestrap
edit: after doing some research you can only flash TW based ROMS that have same base firmware you have. Since you are ME7 you can only flash ME7 based TW ROMS. Hope this helps
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I believe Google edition ROMS are all TW based if I remember correctly. Or they use the TW kernels, which is why they should work with safestrap
edit: after doing some research you can only flash TW based ROMS that have same base firmware you have. Since you are ME7 you can only flash ME7 based TW ROMS. Hope this helps
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So then, since Hash just released an Alpha of SafeStrap for MJ7, does that mean I will be able to use this rom if I were to update to MJ7?
The OP said that the older Eclipse GE ROM running on 4.2/ME7 worked, so does that mean this will work? I hope so. TouchWiz isn't the worst overlay to Android, but truth be told I'm getting tired of it. Locked bootloaders really suck.
I'm on ME7 Running HyperDrive through SS at the moment.
No you can't, put it to you this way; any rom that uses the stock tw kernel you can use with safestrap.
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So I've tried a bunch of different ROMs (CleanROM, Alliance, Beans, CM, OMNI, "Stock", probably more), but I've never really understood kernels. It seems some custom ROMs have a kernel built in (or several to choose from via Aroma), while others do not. Right now I'm running AOKP (4.4.2) with the kernel from OMNI (3.0.64-OMNI-g5f47648), presumably because that was the previous ROM I flashed with a kernel. I'm not too concerned with customization, more with stability.
I've been having a few minor bugs and crashes and I'd like to try perhaps the stock kernel to see if that might help, but I have some questions:
1) Does it matter when flashing a kernel whether the ROM is TW or AOSP?
2) Are there multiple versions of kernels that correspond with the Android version of the ROM?
3) What's the best/easiest way to flash a kernel, presumably through the custom recovery like a ROM?
4) Where can I find the stock kernel? I found this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2610870) with the stock MJ9 kernel, but going back to my first two questions I'm not sure if it would work with my current ROM.
Thanks ahead of time for any insight anyone can provide.
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So I've tried a bunch of different ROMs (CleanROM, Alliance, Beans, CM, OMNI, "Stock", probably more), but I've never really understood kernels. It seems some custom ROMs have a kernel built in (or several to choose from via Aroma), while others do not. Right now I'm running AOKP (4.4.2) with the kernel from OMNI (3.0.64-OMNI-g5f47648), presumably because that was the previous ROM I flashed with a kernel. I'm not too concerned with customization, more with stability.
I've been having a few minor bugs and crashes and I'd like to try perhaps the stock kernel to see if that might help, but I have some questions:
1) Does it matter when flashing a kernel whether the ROM is TW or AOSP?
2) Are there multiple versions of kernels that correspond with the Android version of the ROM?
3) What's the best/easiest way to flash a kernel, presumably through the custom recovery like a ROM?
4) Where can I find the stock kernel? I found this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2610870) with the stock MJ9 kernel, but going back to my first two questions I'm not sure if it would work with my current ROM.
Thanks ahead of time for any insight anyone can provide.
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1) Does it matter when flashing a kernel whether the ROM is TW or AOSP?
Yes. TW and AOSP kernels are different.. The only one, that I believe, that can be used with both is Devil kernel for Dual Booting
2) Are there multiple versions of kernels that correspond with the Android version of the ROM?
Yes. Usually every version of android that gets updated.. the kernel does as well
3) What's the best/easiest way to flash a kernel, presumably through the custom recovery like a ROM?
Yes you can flash kernels through a custom recovery. Most of the time they are included with the Rom that you flash. A lot of the custom ones out have flashable zip for you to flash them through a recovery.
4) Where can I find the stock kernel? I found this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2610870) with the stock MJ9 kernel, but going back to my first two questions I'm not sure if it would work with my current ROM.
No this will NOT work with a AOSP rom.. The kernel will be specific to that ROM and every other TW 4.3 ROM, but NOT AOSP
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1) Does it matter when flashing a kernel whether the ROM is TW or AOSP?
Yes. TW and AOSP kernels are different.. The only one, that I believe, that can be used with both is Devil kernel for Dual Booting
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Thanks for the explanations, that helps tremendously. I'm confused now, however, because several people on the AOKP thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2453566) claim to be on "stock kernel". Is there a stock kernel for AOSP that I'm missing?
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Thanks for the explanations, that helps tremendously. I'm confused now, however, because several people on the AOKP thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2453566) claim to be on "stock kernel". Is there a stock kernel for AOSP that I'm missing?
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Yea the one that flashes with AOKP.. loll
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Yea the one that flashes with AOKP.. loll
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Well that's what I thought, but why then would I be using an OMNI kernel (3.0.64-OMNI-g5f47648) when I have flashed the last three AOKP nightly ROMs that have come out? Or am I missing something here?
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Well that's what I thought, but why then would I be using an OMNI kernel (3.0.64-OMNI-g5f47648) when I have flashed the last three AOKP nightly ROMs that have come out? Or am I missing something here?
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Maybe he uses that kernel.. AOSP kernels, I believe are pretty similar.. I may be wrong, I am by NO MEANS a kernel guru..I would open you zip of your ROM (AOKP) and take a peak.. if there is a boot.img than it flashes a kernel.. and if your says OMNI then thats the kernel the dev has used..
Stock
If I'm on the stock rom and want to go back to the original kernel can I just restore the boot img in recovery?
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If I'm on the stock rom and want to go back to the original kernel can I just restore the boot img in recovery?
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Should be able to if you back it up previously.. but make sure it is same rom.. TouchWiz for TouchWiz.. AOSP for AOSP
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Should be able to if you back it up previously.. but make sure it is same rom.. TouchWiz for TouchWiz.. AOSP for AOSP
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Thank you sir. It worked just fine.
I have a noob question, I'm currently using n3bula 3.9 custom rom and it's been running fine for a while. I noticed that users chose the agni kernel whereas I chose the stock one. So my question is, is it possible to flash just the kernel from recovery without losing my data? I've spent so much time and effort customizing my phone, therefore, I just want to change the kernel. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks.
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I have a noob question, I'm currently using n3bula 3.9 custom rom and it's been running fine for a while. I noticed that users chose the agni kernel whereas I chose the stock one. So my question is, is it possible to flash just the kernel from recovery without losing my data? I've spent so much time and effort customizing my phone, therefore, I just want to change the kernel. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks.
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I would think that as long as it doesn't break anything you should be fine. Probably do a backup first if you're worried about it.
Thanks for the response Michael, however, that was the response I was dreading! I'm actually worried I'll lose my WhatsApp and Viber accounts because even if I backed up my data, I'd still have to register my old WhatsApp and Viber numbers all over again which I don't have anymore.. ??