So, I'm thinking about dropping my $30/month unlimited data plan with Verizon. I love my eris, but I really only use data to check email and facebook a few times a day, and maybe a few other things like checking the weather, google calendar, etc. It's nice, but I feel like it's not worth paying $30 per month for the little amount that I use it.
Is there any way to drop my data plan while keeping my eris (without incurring data fees of course)? I'd like to keep the ability to make calls, send texts (including MMS), but nothing else. Is this possible?
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So, I'm thinking about dropping my $30/month unlimited data plan with Verizon. I love my eris, but I really only use data to check email and facebook a few times a day, and maybe a few other things like checking the weather, google calendar, etc. It's nice, but I feel like it's not worth paying $30 per month for the little amount that I use it.
Is there any way to drop my data plan while keeping my eris (without incurring data fees of course)? I'd like to keep the ability to make calls, send texts (including MMS), but nothing else. Is this possible?
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I'm not sure you have the option to not have the $30 a month charge with any smartphone on vz.
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So, I'm thinking about dropping my $30/month unlimited data plan with Verizon. I love my eris, but I really only use data to check email and facebook a few times a day, and maybe a few other things like checking the weather, google calendar, etc. It's nice, but I feel like it's not worth paying $30 per month for the little amount that I use it.
Is there any way to drop my data plan while keeping my eris (without incurring data fees of course)? I'd like to keep the ability to make calls, send texts (including MMS), but nothing else. Is this possible?
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As far as I know, if you activate what is considered a smartphone on a Verizon plan, the data plan is an automatic that cannot be removed. You'd have to switch to a feature phone (and, unfortunately, some of those require a $10 data plan themselves.)
If you are on a month-to-month you could try switching your number to one of the pre-paid services, like Cricket or something.
Ah, that's what I figured.
I might just switch back to a dumbphone and use my eris as wifi-only since I'm around wifi 90% of the time.
You need a data plan not the 30$ data plan, get the cheaper one and then you can check web on the go
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You need a data plan not the 30$ data plan, get the cheaper one and then you can check web on the go
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Right now there is no cheaper plan. There was a brief time that they had a capped plan at $15 (I think), but right now, as of January, smartphones are $30 for unlimited data.
well I'm not sure, but right now I have a 150 MB plan for the $15 a month. I'm with Verizon and honestly I don't even use that much data monthly. I'm pretty sure if you drop them a line you could get it, it's a good savings
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well I'm not sure, but right now I have a 150 MB plan for the $15 a month. I'm with Verizon and honestly I don't even use that much data monthly. I'm pretty sure if you drop them a line you could get it, it's a good savings
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Yeah, that's the plan I have and that has indeed been dropped, Verizon no longer offers it except for us legacy users who happened to still have it. I usually come right up to the cap each month but it's sufficient for everything I need (I usually have wifi anyway). Hopefully Verizon will offer up some alternative plans at some point but as far as I know nothing is coming up soon.
So, no, you can't go data-less on verizon. I actually carried around my eris and my old feature phone for ages before I decided to pay for a data plan. It's annoying, but the eris works great for a wifi-only device.
yeah, a data-less eris sounds like a good idea, i'm at wifi 90% of the time anyway. i'm really just replying here cause i wanna help this guy with bugs on his new gingerbread rom and i can't post there until i get 10 of these
I heard a rumor at some point that
Verizon was doing away with the unlimited data plan in favor of a tiered option system. Has anyone heard anything about this? I would definitely switch to a capped option if it was cheaper, I don't think I've ever come close to a single GB of data usage and I never turn wifi on.
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Yes, Verizon is introducing tiered data plans some time this summer.
verizon-targeting-mid-summer-for-tiered-data-plans
Yup that's it. Now I wonder what the options are going to be... Magic answer forum go!
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My VZW plan has a generous 22% corporate discount for voice & unlimited web data and should be grandfathered with these new tiered pricing - nice, right. But, it will be removed if and when a new/replacement device is activated. It's one of the better deal still available for about $25/mo. w. taxes & fees for data itself, oh well - plenty of discussions over at HoFo ....
I used between 250 MB and 500 MB data monthly on the HTC Eris w. FroShedYo ROM (less w. the unlocked & HTC Ozone Global on 3VO ROM) - since I take advtange of a much faster secured wifi broadband link @ home whenever possible with marginal 3G coverage. While traveling, I did come close to using about 1 GB data without tethering and nice to not worry about going over any capped limits.
Looking at both PagePlus Cellular and MetroPCS, it will be a "challenge" to use their talk & text/limited web data plan without going over (capped at 100 MB or 200 MB) but it will be cheaper overall if I turnoff all the widgets & background apps, email checking, etc. on the Eris & keep tabs of all data downloads. The Ozone is now used with an AT&T Gophone prepaid Sim on GSM network as a backup line, and with limited usage - I get by with using 20 to 50 MB data each month.
I've not renewed/extended my VZW plan since becoming eligible again for annual equipment upgrade - with the trends for locking down the bootloader(s) and disabling the firmware (i.e. Droid X Global) - seriously debating switching to GSM for a broader selection of phones - and easily swapping phone by inserting the Sim card (excluding the iPhone, of course).
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So, I'm sick and tired of Verizon bending me over each month. I don't need my phone for work anymore, so it's just personal use. $180 a month is WAY too much. So I'm thinking about switching to Revol Wireless. I currently have Ryan Mogul's 1.1 (Winmo 6.1 lite) on my phone. I'm planning on porting my current number to Revol, so what's involved in getting my phone to work on Revol's network? Verizon and Revol are both CDMA, right?
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is 180 for more than one line I hope
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is 180 for more than one line I hope
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absolutely not! i'm on the Nationwide Select Unlimited Plan plus my Unlimited Data plan and Tec Insurance. My bill comes out to be roughly $187 each and every month. I'm sorry, but the network reliability is NOT worth that kind of money when so many other carriers are offering just as much, if not more, for less money.
Do you talk that much. Why do you need a unlimited plan? May I suggest the lowest minute plan and email. Then just get a google voice number and do that for all calls and save yourself some money. You can get a unlimited texting with 450 minutes for 100 inclusing data. You pay way to much money my friend.
you can get unlimited data, text and like 3000 talk minutes for $110 now, heck I think with unlimited talk your only at 125-130 now.
that unlimited data is dumb phone data not smartphone. The only compatible data is the $30 or $50 data plans for smartphones
No that was for smartphone, specifically the Droid Eris from what I saw on billshrink.com
Ok, so I want the SG2, but keeping my current contract with AT&T proves to be difficult. If I upgrade with AT&T the SG2 is $199. If I upgrade through walmart letstalk.com $159, amazon wireless $149, deals2buy.com the SG2 is$99.
Talk about some great deal right? Only problem I have is that my contract would change. As many of you may or may not know, AT&T in their infinite wisdom removed their text tiering plan. It used to be something like $5 for 200 text a month, $15 for 1000 and $20 for unlimited. Because I don't text much, I went with the $5 for 200 text. I also opted into the $30 for unlimited data. I have been grandfathered into these options, but if I get the phone from an outside agency I would have to switch to AT&T's "awesome" $25 for 2gb data plan and be left almost without a text option unless I pay $20 for unlimited which is the only plan they have now. When I say I don't text much, I mean I'm barely breaking 80 a month and that's me really trying.
Now I don't use that much data mostly because of my current location. According to my data usage chart, I'm only using about 500mb a month. While the $25 for 2gb might seem like a good idea, I'd like to know that when I relocate within the next 6 months, that I won't have to worry about going over in data usage. When I'm in an area that has a good 3G connection, I watch a lot of videos when I have downtime and you can shoot past 2gb in no time.
I'm sure a lot of you are saying drop AT&T and what not, but the truth be told, I've never had any problems with them over the last 4 years. I think their rates are reasonable and I love the roll over option. So me leaving them is not an option anytime soon at least not until they royale screw me.
Are you 100% sure reseller's require you to change you data plan if you upgrade through them? If its true, then I would spend the extra money and go to an official AT&T store and buy one. I wouldn't sacrifice my unlimited data for anything.
I agree, do anything you can to keep that Unlimited Data plan.
Man the money you save up front would probably be negated over the course of the contract. If you dont have the money now just wait a spell, the price will come down of course after a while.
You should really look into your calling habits though. If you not using over 2gigs ever then you could save money there. Also with unlimited texts comes the free cell to cell deal. Thats any carriers cell not just att, which makes a huge difference. Everyone's situation is a bit different. att is actually pretty good about working with you on stuff like this. I have had them eat HUGE bills. I hate att for my own reasons, but this is one area where I have to concede their worth. Good luck to you. The phone really is bad ass, best phone I have had to date and I have had my fair share.
You are not forced to change data plan I upgraded to infuse 4g and kept data. I probably gnna get gs2 in a week or so. I do have the unlimited data btw.
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You do not lose your grandfathered unl. Data plan. I upgraded at Walmart and dud not. They may tell you that you are but if you call att and raise enough hell you'll keep it. Trust me.
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Are you 100% sure reseller's require you to change you data plan if you upgrade through them? If its true, then I would spend the extra money and go to an official AT&T store and buy one. I wouldn't sacrifice my unlimited data for anything.
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Yes they do. Once you add the phone to your cart, you have to pick a calling and data plan. While AT&Ts calling plans haven't changed, their data and texting plans have and the resellers websites options have changed to reflect that.
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Man the money you save up front would probably be negated over the course of the contract. If you dont have the money now just wait a spell, the price will come down of course after a while.
You should really look into your calling habits though. If you not using over 2gigs ever then you could save money there. Also with unlimited texts comes the free cell to cell deal. Thats any carriers cell not just att, which makes a huge difference.
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I don't talk on my cell that often that why I like the rollover minutes thing. As for going over 2gb, it can happen because I travel a lot and when I'm not at my remote location, I go over 2gb easily. I don't think saving $5 is feasible just because I'm not consistently going over 2gb every month. Right now I pay $30 for unlimited. If I do go with the 2gb plan, I'll be charged $10 for each gig I go over. With unlimited, I'm covered no matter what the hell happens.
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You are not forced to change data plan I upgraded to infuse 4g and kept data. I probably gnna get gs2 in a week or so. I do have the unlimited data btw.
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This is true if you do the upgrade through AT&T and not a reseller. AT&T isn't willing to cut me a deal on the phone simply because they don't have to. While I do understand this and I have the money to get the new phone at the price they are offering, it's always good to save a few bucks everynow and again.
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You do not lose your grandfathered unl. Data plan. I upgraded at Walmart and dud not. They may tell you that you are but if you call att and raise enough hell you'll keep it. Trust me.
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While that might be true, I'm not willing to take that chance. Like I said earlier, you are forced to make a choice for a data plan. If making that choice prevents me from switching back to having unlimited, that would be bad. Saving the money on the phone wont' be worth it in the end.
I just did this on Monday. I was on the old $30 unlimited data and the $5 for 200 text plan.
I got mine at Walmart. The rep had to call AT&T to get it activated. They are able to keep the $30 unlimited data but will require you to upgrade your text plan to get it activated.
However, if you immediately call AT&T (611) and talk to a rep, you CAN get your old $5 for 200 text plan back. It will require the rep to ask their supervisor, but they will do it for you.
Went from old AT&T plan from my iPhone 3GS and still have the unlimited and 200 text messages.
Well it sounds like you've got it all figured out then.with all due respect, I don't understand why you even created this thread when you just countered helpful comments and seemed to have answered your own questions.
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I made this thread to see if anyone else went through a similar situation. Also, if there was some way they managed to keep their plan, they would maybe be able to tell me how they did it.
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I made this thread to see if anyone else went through a similar situation. Also, if there was some way they managed to keep their plan, they would maybe be able to tell me how they did it.
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I just did if you read my post above...
I went to AT&T store and and them if they can give me $50 credit for getting the phone and i must keep my current features unchanged. The sales rep agreed and i walked out the store within 20 min with a phone. i paid $200 plus tax but he credited my account $50 right there.
When I bought my Infuse and kept my $5/200 texting plan and unlimited data - the GSII was bought outright off-contractr so didn't affect my account at all.
AT&T corporate stores are the way to go! They might not have the extreme hardware deals, but their representatives are FAR more competent and honest in my opinion.
I just did ths last night
I just upgraded to the S2 last night at an Att corporate store. The person who was ringinh me up told me the THE SAME THING. I need to change my data plan $30 unlimited and my $5 text plan. I have the same exact services as you do. She kept trying to put it through the system and it kept giving her errors saying that she could give me the data plan but not the text plan. In the end she was able to get it done and I kept everything that i had.
All i can tell you is to tell the rep to try every configuration to see if it goes through. If i remember right she ended up finding the text plan that would work but it was near to the bottom of her list.
It is 100% possible to keep because I was in the same exact situation.
I as well. : /
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Complete bull****.
I upgraded @ Best Buy, unlimited data remains.
I don't really text at all so I have no texting plan. I refuse to pay extra for something that costs the network infinitely less the a phone call would have.
You will find that many, if not all representatives will feed you that "Need to Upgrade your plan" line of bull.
It is their JOB! The more people they can trick and fool OFF of their unlimited plans, the more money they can make.
DO NOT EVER BELIEVE THEM!!!
My Best Buy store had some cash register issues when I picked up my SGSII. We had to complete the upgrade over the phone, in store. Can't count the number of times the AT&T guys said I had NO existing Data-Plan. I called Foul, as I've been on the Corporate data plan (for office email) from the beginning.
Now if you try to go the order online / nonhuman route, all bets are off.
I upgraded at Walmart IN STORE and had NO ISSUES keeping my unlimited grandfathered in everything plan. I too have the $30 data and $5 unlimited text plan. I did the SAME THING last year with my captivate but I HAD TO do it in store. Walmarts online LETSTALK would not allow me to keep my current grandfathered in plan and they cancelled my order. So I walked into the Walmart store and got it and kept my grandfathered plan. Just before upgrading to the att SGS2 I called and CONFIRMED that I can and will keep my unlimited plan a.d was assured by the retention department that I would. I called after I left the store with SGS2 in hand and again called att to CONFIRM that my plan is still listed as the Personal unlimited plan (grandfathered plan). The att retention department told me that IF the store gave me ANY ISSUES to just get the phone and call them once it was mine. So stick to your guns in it and don't just give it away.
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You do not lose your grandfathered unl. Data plan. I upgraded at Walmart and dud not. They may tell you that you are but if you call att and raise enough hell you'll keep it. Trust me.
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Same here. Just called threw a hissy fit gave it back lol
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I see my best bet would be to walk into Walmart and get that deal on the phone since I can't be sure things will work out with the other online resellers. It seems that buy making your voices heard it was possible to keep your plans. I think what I'm going to do first is call AT&T up and ask the question "If I upgrade my phone through a reseller, will you allow me to keep my current plan" and see what there response is. After that I'll argue with them about how I've been a customer for some years and because I'm renewing my contract, that's the least they could do for me. I'll be sure to get the sales reps name and ID number if they have one. Hell, I might even use my phone and let them know that I'm recording this call for quality assurance. That way I'll have some hard evidence that I was promised that I could keep my plan by the sales rep. I haven't had a reason to use my in call voice recorder but this seems like the perfect time.
Thanks for your input all, I'll let you know how things go and what deal I ended up getting.
When I bought my Rezound online almost a month ago, VZW decided to pull more of their tricks. I was on VZW's website and my old Touch Pro 2's contract had been expired. I wanted an upgrade. VZW obviously wasn't promoting this one which cost me a whopping $250. That's not my gripe tho. My gripe is , when I proceeded to go forth with the sale, a window pops up saying my current messaging plan is not valid with this device. It then forced me to have to buy a 1000 msg/mo. plan or pay per msg. How was my messaging plan NOT valid with this phone?? I have had that messaging plan since 2005 and have used it with a Motorola Q9M and an Htc Touch Pro 2. The TP2 I bought online same as this one. The messaging plan in question.... I had unlimited IN Network messaging and paid $5 a month for 50 msg per month. That was for those people I msgd to not on VZW, and I DONT text a lot. Yet I was forced to pay twice as much for that plan in order to proceed...
Then..... After that it jacks my $15 a mo. tethering option ... ,forcefully removes it because it says it's "Not valid" wtf? I try to get it back because I need that as its my only means to go on the internet with my computer (for the last 4 years)..but when I try, they now say I must use the Mobile Hotspot feature. Which apparently is a tiered data plan. I used about 1 - 3gb of data normally every month on the computer. But yayy now since VZ jacked my plan I now have to pay twice as much for the same amount of data usage. I havent activated it. I cant afford the extra charges. I've already been paying $45 a mo. for that unlimited data plan I activated in 2007. $75 a month for internet thats really only 5gb.. I dont think so.. Im sure some of you would flame me for this, but Im just getting fed up with Verizons bullsh**. I neede to blow some steam about this for awhile..
Yeah I'm getting tired of Verizon's crap too, but for different reasons. the Rezound being locked down is the biggest right now. Also when I go into their stores the employees know absolutely nothing about the products they are selling, and I wish I was exaggerating about that, but it's true. Even their "tech" people have no clue. It seems like if I'm paying $180/month on my bill and $300 for my phones and been with them for over four years now, they could be a little more helpful and accommodating to us.... Take the shackles off my phone!!!!!!
The data plan is not valid because with a 4G phone you need a 4G data plan for the hotspot feature. They should have grandfathered you in on the price though. You may need to call and speak with someone.
About the texting, I don't know the exact reason why you couldn't keep it, but did your minutes/etc change by chance? And since you were out of contract and did not renew prior this may be why you were not grandfathered.
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When I bought my Rezound online almost a month ago, VZW decided to pull more of their tricks. I was on VZW's website and my old Touch Pro 2's contract had been expired. I wanted an upgrade. VZW obviously wasn't promoting this one which cost me a whopping $250. That's not my gripe tho. My gripe is , when I proceeded to go forth with the sale, a window pops up saying my current messaging plan is not valid with this device. It then forced me to have to buy a 1000 msg/mo. plan or pay per msg. How was my messaging plan NOT valid with this phone?? I have had that messaging plan since 2005 and have used it with a Motorola Q9M and an Htc Touch Pro 2. The TP2 I bought online same as this one. The messaging plan in question.... I had unlimited IN Network messaging and paid $5 a month for 50 msg per month. That was for those people I msgd to not on VZW, and I DONT text a lot. Yet I was forced to pay twice as much for that plan in order to proceed...
Then..... After that it jacks my $15 a mo. tethering option ... ,forcefully removes it because it says it's "Not valid" wtf? I try to get it back because I need that as its my only means to go on the internet with my computer (for the last 4 years)..but when I try, they now say I must use the Mobile Hotspot feature. Which apparently is a tiered data plan. I used about 1 - 3gb of data normally every month on the computer. But yayy now since VZ jacked my plan I now have to pay twice as much for the same amount of data usage. I havent activated it. I cant afford the extra charges. I've already been paying $45 a mo. for that unlimited data plan I activated in 2007. $75 a month for internet thats really only 5gb.. I dont think so.. Im sure some of you would flame me for this, but Im just getting fed up with Verizons bullsh**. I neede to blow some steam about this for awhile..
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I had the same issue using their online upgrade method. It wouldn't allow me to keep my 250 txt plan and tried to force me to get the 1000 plan for an extra $5 a month. I ended up going directly to the store to upgrade. They didn't say a word and carried the 250 plan right over.
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The data plan is not valid because with a 4G phone you need a 4G data plan for the hotspot feature. They should have grandfathered you in on the price though. You may need to call and speak with someone.
About the texting, I don't know the exact reason why you couldn't keep it, but did your minutes/etc change by chance? And since you were out of contract and did not renew prior this may be why you were not grandfathered.
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That's not it. I was not out of contract, but was required to choose a per sms fee or the 1000/mo. when I upgraded to a Rezound, in contract.
For me, $10 a month is not a big deal and I'd probably pay more over time with the per message deal. My younger daughter with her AT&T iPhone, only communicates with me via text ;-)
So I do not think this is a result of contract expiration. Probably VZW is just making things worse for unlimited plans until we "have to" choose another plan.
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You just said you were not under contract. When you are not under contract they don't have to let you keep your current plan options. They can change them on you on a wimb.
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I was on VZW's website and my old Touch Pro 2's contract had been expired. I wanted an upgrade. VZW obviously wasn't promoting this one which cost me a whopping $250.
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THE-COPS said:
When I bought my Rezound online almost a month ago, VZW decided to pull more of their tricks. I was on VZW's website and my old Touch Pro 2's contract had been expired. I wanted an upgrade. VZW obviously wasn't promoting this one which cost me a whopping $250. That's not my gripe tho. My gripe is , when I proceeded to go forth with the sale, a window pops up saying my current messaging plan is not valid with this device. It then forced me to have to buy a 1000 msg/mo. plan or pay per msg. How was my messaging plan NOT valid with this phone?? I have had that messaging plan since 2005 and have used it with a Motorola Q9M and an Htc Touch Pro 2. The TP2 I bought online same as this one. The messaging plan in question.... I had unlimited IN Network messaging and paid $5 a month for 50 msg per month. That was for those people I msgd to not on VZW, and I DONT text a lot. Yet I was forced to pay twice as much for that plan in order to proceed...
Then..... After that it jacks my $15 a mo. tethering option ... ,forcefully removes it because it says it's "Not valid" wtf? I try to get it back because I need that as its my only means to go on the internet with my computer (for the last 4 years)..but when I try, they now say I must use the Mobile Hotspot feature. Which apparently is a tiered data plan. I used about 1 - 3gb of data normally every month on the computer. But yayy now since VZ jacked my plan I now have to pay twice as much for the same amount of data usage. I havent activated it. I cant afford the extra charges. I've already been paying $45 a mo. for that unlimited data plan I activated in 2007. $75 a month for internet thats really only 5gb.. I dont think so.. Im sure some of you would flame me for this, but Im just getting fed up with Verizons bullsh**. I neede to blow some steam about this for awhile..
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i had ordered my phone via the website as well. I got the same message but just clicked continue through it and didn't have to change my plan. I still have my unlimited plan.
if could use pdanet for tether....so u dont have to get a tether plan...but it uses ur alotted data from ur phone, abd would need the full app to visit https sites..i thinl, cant remember..but ive had the app over 2 years n nothin happened yet....just a suggestion tho for internet issue...
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Did you do the research first on prices? I can see your point on why you wanted to vent about it but if you had taken the time out to research first by speaking to a VZ rep over the phone they would've helped you and if you were grandfathered in whichever plan(data, talk, text etc...) then you would still be on it. You don't have to convert to whatever new plan they are offering. When I had tried to upgrade my DroidX to a Thunderbolt over the website the same pop up box came up saying that my current plan was not available for the TB. For for the hell of it I exited out and started from the beginning upgrading the DroidX to a Dinc2 and the same pop up box did not pop up so I figured it was because of a 4g phone. I called and asked about that pop up box and CS walked me through saying that its just an automatic pop up box that will come up and if you continue to the next window it would allow you to select the same plan as before.
I just got home with my brand spankin' new Rezound...loving it, as a matter of fact.
I went to the store because every time I went online, it wanted to change me to the tiered data plan.
I am still grandfathered in on the same unlimited data plan I bought in 2007. Its some combined data / phone plan. Something like ''Americas Choice 450 + Email/unlimited data" and cost me $79.99 a month. Then I tacked on the msg plan for $5 and then the tethering for $15 . But for this phone, I did keep my original plan. Just that it would not let me keep a lot of the other stuff. When I first got that popup window, I backed out. I DID do 611 and talk to someone about that. I spoke to 2 different reps. One of them seemed dumbfounded and couldn't understand why it was doing that. He said it "Shouldn't" ....hmmm . I asked him to talk to another rep. Another guy came on the line and then said that msg plan was well out of date and hasnt been available for over 4 years. I called BS on that because I had that plan TWICE since. He said it's "locked" in the system and theres nothing he can do about it. So if its "locked in" ..... How is it I keep it for the last 4 years? He didnt know...... FOUL! oh well. Im not going to keep making a fuss over some msging plan.
As for 4G... It doesnt even stay on and I get 3G 99% of the timr. Even in super strong signal areas. My 3G here is really good. But 4G seems useless ....and im supposedly paying for that...hmmm
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I am still grandfathered in on the same unlimited data plan I bought in 2007. Its some combined data / phone plan. Something like ''Americas Choice 450 + Email/unlimited data" and cost me $79.99 a month. Then I tacked on the msg plan for $5 and then the tethering for $15 . But for this phone, I did keep my original plan. Just that it would not let me keep a lot of the other stuff. When I first got that popup window, I backed out. I DID do 611 and talk to someone about that. I spoke to 2 different reps. One of them seemed dumbfounded and couldn't understand why it was doing that. He said it "Shouldn't" ....hmmm . I asked him to talk to another rep. Another guy came on the line and then said that msg plan was well out of date and hasnt been available for over 4 years. I called BS on that because I had that plan TWICE since. He said it's "locked" in the system and theres nothing he can do about it. So if its "locked in" ..... How is it I keep it for the last 4 years? He didnt know...... FOUL! oh well. Im not going to keep making a fuss over some msging plan.
As for 4G... It doesnt even stay on and I get 3G 99% of the timr. Even in super strong signal areas. My 3G here is really good. But 4G seems useless ....and im supposedly paying for that...hmmm
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There are people here who have been member far longer than you or I and don't have the issues you have in regards to your plans. You must have gotten some very limited promotion.
As for 4G. You are not paying for 4G, you are paying for Verizon Service, and whatever phone you have the connects to their service. Verizon isn't going to pop up a tower everywhere as you drive down the road for your convenience. People buy 4G phones all the time that don't even have 4G in their area. The network is barely a year old, you need to chill out and let them roll it out and fix the bugs. Or, you can changer service providers and complain that they don't have **** for 4G anywhere in the country and get a "4G" phone just because it sounds cool.
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I am still grandfathered in on the same unlimited data plan I bought in 2007. Its some combined data / phone plan. Something like ''Americas Choice 450 + Email/unlimited data" and cost me $79.99 a month. Then I tacked on the msg plan for $5 and then the tethering for $15 . But for this phone, I did keep my original plan. Just that it would not let me keep a lot of the other stuff. When I first got that popup window, I backed out. I DID do 611 and talk to someone about that. I spoke to 2 different reps. One of them seemed dumbfounded and couldn't understand why it was doing that. He said it "Shouldn't" ....hmmm . I asked him to talk to another rep. Another guy came on the line and then said that msg plan was well out of date and hasnt been available for over 4 years. I called BS on that because I had that plan TWICE since. He said it's "locked" in the system and theres nothing he can do about it. So if its "locked in" ..... How is it I keep it for the last 4 years? He didnt know...... FOUL! oh well. Im not going to keep making a fuss over some msging plan.
As for 4G... It doesnt even stay on and I get 3G 99% of the timr. Even in super strong signal areas. My 3G here is really good. But 4G seems useless ....and im supposedly paying for that...hmmm
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I just checked in to the verizonwireless.com website...I've still got the 450 minute America's Choice plan I've had for well on ten years...I've still got $5 for 250 texts, and still have unlimited data.
I may have saved $30 or so on Wirefly or similar, but I've got the peace of mind that I didn't have to go to war to protect that unlimited data plan.
Im not complaining about the availability of 4g service. I know not everyone has 4g in their area and its spotty at best. What Im saying is that I run a signal check for LTE and the signal can be strong but most of the time it does not turn on. Im NOT expecting it to follow me wherever I go. But Id expect it to work where there is strong LTE signal. See what I'm saying now? As for paying for 4g service... Whats that Wifi Hotspot thing then and why wont plain ol tethering plan work? Because tethering is for 3G phones , not 4g. And Hotspot cost twice as much as tether for the same data amount. Even though I am technically NOT using Hotspot because I refuse to payvtwice as much for the same thing, I had lost the tethering option and onlyvhave the more expensive option now due to 4g....But the 4g dont seem to be working.
And again, I have not lost my original service plan. Just those reps were dummies.. and I dont feel like making a huge hassle. I just wrote this post to gripe about Verizons BS. I had to vent.. that is all.
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Im not complaining about the availability of 4g service. I know not everyone has 4g in their area and its spotty at best. What Im saying is that I run a signal check for LTE and the signal can be strong but most of the time it does not turn on. Im NOT expecting it to follow me wherever I go. But Id expect it to work where there is strong LTE signal. See what I'm saying now? As for paying for 4g service... Whats that Wifi Hotspot thing then and why wont plain ol tethering plan work? Because tethering is for 3G phones , not 4g. And Hotspot cost twice as much as tether for the same data amount. Even though I am technically NOT using Hotspot because I refuse to payvtwice as much for the same thing, I had lost the tethering option and onlyvhave the more expensive option now due to 4g....But the 4g dont seem to be working.
And again, I have not lost my original service plan. Just those reps were dummies.. and I dont feel like making a huge hassle. I just wrote this post to gripe about Verizons BS. I had to vent.. that is all.
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Have you tried talking to retentions? At worst, I would ask for the unlimited data and a credit every month to cover the messaging. Seems only right for a long time customer.
Verizon has always nickeled and dimed its customers with extra charges for this or that, they've always been one of the two most expensive of the major four providers (AT&T being the other), and they've always tried to control what the customer could and couldn't do (i.e. no way to get rid of the bloatware, locked bootloaders, etc.). The company has invested a lot of money in its network, and it steadfastly refuses to outsource its customer service. It has to recover the money somewhere. In short, you get what you pay for (unless you're with AT&T, in which case you don't).
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Have you tried talking to retentions? At worst, I would ask for the unlimited data and a credit every month to cover the messaging. Seems only right for a long time customer.
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Retentions?hmm I guess I haven't. Already have the unlimited. Is this on the 611 as well? I don't like going up to the main..err what used to be the HQ store in Ft Myers. Ever since they changed the stores all around, the guys working up there seem like tightwads now. Idk what they did to their stores, but I totally want to avoid that place since the change. Not helpful at all. Totally miss how the stores used to be. Must be some corporate bs going on.
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When I bought my Rezound online almost a month ago, VZW decided to pull more of their tricks. I was on VZW's website and my old Touch Pro 2's contract had been expired. I wanted an upgrade. VZW obviously wasn't promoting this one which cost me a whopping $250. That's not my gripe tho. My gripe is , when I proceeded to go forth with the sale, a window pops up saying my current messaging plan is not valid with this device. It then forced me to have to buy a 1000 msg/mo. plan or pay per msg. How was my messaging plan NOT valid with this phone?? I have had that messaging plan since 2005 and have used it with a Motorola Q9M and an Htc Touch Pro 2. The TP2 I bought online same as this one. The messaging plan in question.... I had unlimited IN Network messaging and paid $5 a month for 50 msg per month. That was for those people I msgd to not on VZW, and I DONT text a lot. Yet I was forced to pay twice as much for that plan in order to proceed...
Then..... After that it jacks my $15 a mo. tethering option ... ,forcefully removes it because it says it's "Not valid" wtf? I try to get it back because I need that as its my only means to go on the internet with my computer (for the last 4 years)..but when I try, they now say I must use the Mobile Hotspot feature. Which apparently is a tiered data plan. I used about 1 - 3gb of data normally every month on the computer. But yayy now since VZ jacked my plan I now have to pay twice as much for the same amount of data usage. I havent activated it. I cant afford the extra charges. I've already been paying $45 a mo. for that unlimited data plan I activated in 2007. $75 a month for internet thats really only 5gb.. I dont think so.. Im sure some of you would flame me for this, but Im just getting fed up with Verizons bullsh**. I neede to blow some steam about this for awhile..
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At what point in the process do you say STOP..WOW...
I was in the middle of an AT&T contract when VZW did away with their unlimited data plans. I was holding off, then when they announced the Share Everything plans were starting I decided to finally jump ship. Unfortunately, the "Double your data" promo had come and gone twice before I signed up, otherwise I wouldn't be considering this current change.
I'm currently on a 2GB, 450min, with $10/1000txts plan. With my corporate discount, that's $72/mo. I also have 3 tablets active on a share data-only plan; those total $60, and share 4GB. Total pre-tax/fee bill is $132.
Phone - $32
2GB Data - $30
Txts - $10
4GB Data - $30
Tablet 1 - $10
Tablet 2 - $10
Tablet 3 - $10
Total $132
If I go with an complete Share Everything plan, my bill would be as follows, for the same amount of data:
Phone - $40
Tablet 1 - $10
Tablet 2 - $10
Tablet 3 - $10
6GB Data - $74 (after discount)
Total $134
So, $2 more, I can tether with VZW's blessing, (plus w/o needing to deal with FoxFi, rooting/hacking my phone, etc), and unlimited talk and text. Those last two mean nothing to me, as I'm used 103/450 minutes, and 483/1000 texts last month. The blessed tethering is nice though. Plus, if I go over my allocation (like this month..both data buckets went over), I can go up in 2GB/$10 increments for everything, instead of 1GB/$10 for my phone AND 2GB/$10 on the tablets.
It seems worth it now...but I was against it when I just had the phone and 1 tablet. Then my bill was $102 (same phone cost, plus $30 tablet). Going to shared data would have been $106, and I didn't see any benefit to paying the $4 more per month.
But before I switch, I want to know if there's any downsides to worry about. Anyone already switched to Share Everything, and regret it?
I have the share everything with 12 gig, 4 phones. Haven't found any downsides in the time I've had it
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Seems sort of pointless to me to have a share everything plan w/ tablets on there when you can tether.
I would do the share everything in your case, but not add extra tablets and use that money for extra data.
kimdoocheol said:
Seems sort of pointless to me to have a share everything plan w/ tablets on there when you can tether.
I would do the share everything in your case, but not add extra tablets and use that money for extra data.
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The idea is that those tablets are subsdized.
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The idea is that those tablets are subsdized.
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I thought they stopped doing that?
The savings aren't as good as with the phones. Saving $200 bucks on a tablet, but having to pay extra a month when you can freely tether with your phone still makes no sense. I'd rather pay full price and then not have to deal with the contract. To each his own though.
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I thought they stopped doing that?
The savings aren't as good as with the phones. Saving $200 bucks on a tablet, but having to pay extra a month when you can freely tether with your phone still makes no sense. I'd rather pay full price and then not have to deal with the contract. To each his own though.
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Ah, maybe they did.
I'm not current with Verizon stuff, apparently.
So I work at a Best Buy Mobile and from my experience with these new plans, you're one of the few people who, from a cost perspective, it actually isn't detrimental to switch to the new ShareEverything Plans. Way too often do I see people who's bills would go up at least $30 just to get less data but unlimited talk/text (whoop dee doo...)
The way I look at it is if you're one of the people who would employ the add a line to a family plan for an upgrade tactic, then the share plans aren't worth it since you'd have to pay an extra $30 a month for 2 years just for an extra upgrade to use vs the old $9.99 a month method.
But seeing as you're on a individual 450 talk, the add a line trick for family plans doesn't work for you. But since you go over on data plans occasionally, the switch to shareeverything is easier on the wallets when it comes to data overages (so long as you call Verizon BEFORE you go over on data). It's $10 for 2 more gigs since you're just moving up a plan tier, but its $15/gb when you go over your data plan.
The new share everything plans are really just bad for individual accounts, people with mostly basic phones on their family plans, or families who only need minimum minutes per month and only have a smart phone or two. For example on people without any discounts, on the old setups, Nationwide Talk 450 + 1000 txt + 2gig data = $80 before tax; the closest plan like that is now the ShareEverything 2GB which is $60 + smartphone access for $100 together...$20 more just unlimited talk and text? Not worth it. Same concept usually applies to people on lower family plans like the Nationwide Talk 700 or even the Nationwide Talk 1400, not always cost effective.
Do keep this in mind, since you do get a hotspot feature included in the new plans, you don't need to buy cellular tablets as much anymore, thereby saving $130 or more when you buy the tablet. So that could be $10 less a month for each tablet you don't need to hook onto your verizon plan.
As a side note, why is your discount only $6? Most corporate discounts with Verizon are at least 15% Most of the ones I see are 20-22% ...Just saying
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The idea is that those tablets are subsdized.
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As said above, 3 tablets. One person's is an iPad, which wouldn't have been subsidized anyway, and was purchased off Craigslist, furthering the argument. The other 2 are Xooms, and in fact did get a subsidized price on them. Both were refurbished, on sale, and ended up at $200 and 250 with 2 year contract.
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Seems sort of pointless to me to have a share everything plan w/ tablets on there when you can tether.
I would do the share everything in your case, but not add extra tablets and use that money for extra data.
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You obviously haven't had a 3G/4G tablet for the last year. It's spoiled me, and I can't go back. I have done that previously, tethering WiFi devices to my phone. Also, only one of them is mine, the other two are carried by 2 other folks. At best I'd be saving $10, and it's worth it to me to have it connected. Plus, as mentioned above, 2 of 3 are under contract.
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So I work at a Best Buy Mobile and from my experience with these new plans, you're one of the few people who, from a cost perspective, it actually isn't detrimental to switch to the new ShareEverything Plans. Way too often do I see people who's bills would go up at least $30 just to get less data but unlimited talk/text (whoop dee doo...)
The way I look at it is if you're one of the people who would employ the add a line to a family plan for an upgrade tactic, then the share plans aren't worth it since you'd have to pay an extra $30 a month for 2 years just for an extra upgrade to use vs the old $9.99 a month method.
But seeing as you're on a individual 450 talk, the add a line trick for family plans doesn't work for you. But since you go over on data plans occasionally, the switch to shareeverything is easier on the wallets when it comes to data overages (so long as you call Verizon BEFORE you go over on data). It's $10 for 2 more gigs since you're just moving up a plan tier, but its $15/gb when you go over your data plan.
The new share everything plans are really just bad for individual accounts, people with mostly basic phones on their family plans, or families who only need minimum minutes per month and only have a smart phone or two. For example on people without any discounts, on the old setups, Nationwide Talk 450 + 1000 txt + 2gig data = $80 before tax; the closest plan like that is now the ShareEverything 2GB which is $60 + smartphone access for $100 together...$20 more just unlimited talk and text? Not worth it. Same concept usually applies to people on lower family plans like the Nationwide Talk 700 or even the Nationwide Talk 1400, not always cost effective.
Do keep this in mind, since you do get a hotspot feature included in the new plans, you don't need to buy cellular tablets as much anymore, thereby saving $130 or more when you buy the tablet. So that could be $10 less a month for each tablet you don't need to hook onto your verizon plan.
As a side note, why is your discount only $6? Most corporate discounts with Verizon are at least 15% Most of the ones I see are 20-22% ...Just saying
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Multiple points/questions to respond to. You're correct, originally, it made no sense. That's why I signed up when I did, so I wouldn't get forced into the new plans when I finally got around to dropping AT&T, as it would cost me more for no benefit to me. I did the add-a-line to upgrade on AT&T, but won't be doing it again even if I could.
You don't have to call before you go over your allowance. You just need to call before the next cycle starts; I did this for last month's overages. Cycle end 2/6, called 2/5.
I'd still probably buy cellular tablets, especially if (like iPads) that's the only way to get a real GPS chip. The Nexus 7 seems to be the exception, with the WiFi model having GPS. I've unlocked hotspot on every phone and been using it for years, and having it included will certainly be nice.
The discount on VZW is for certain aspects only, plus, one of us mis-calculated . Yes, mine is 20%. With a basic plan, it applies to the minutes portion ($40*20%=$8, so $32)...possibly the data too, if you have the 5GB/$50 plan. With the Share Everything, it instead applies to the shared Data/Voice/Text chunk, and not the device cost. So, 6GB is $80*20%=$16, or $64 (not $74). Add device costs (40+10+10+10) is $134, which is the number I noted. Surprised no one called me out on that basic arithmetic fail instead.
Just about to pre-order a One, and I'm stuck on trying to understand what 'data unlimited' means as compared to the 3GB plan. I did get grandfathered to an unlimited plan when I transitioned to my Inspire, but in the past 2 years there hasn't been a single month where I exceeded 2GB. Wondering if y'all have any advice.
Keep your grandfathered unlimited data, NO reason not to.
I'm on Premier, but when I tried to order mine, the website wouldn't give me the correct price for the phone if I kept my current voice and data plan.
I went into a store, and during the process they told me the system said unlimited plans were not allowed with this device. They called to make sure I am able to keep the unlimited data. Whoever they called annotated my account saying I could keep it, but it has to be reapplied after I get the phone (as was the case the last couple of times I upgraded).
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Unlimited gets throttled at 3gb... If u avg 2.5 check out the mobile share plans no throttling and they go upto 50gb... if u wanna keep unlimited don't order online cuz they'll swap ur data pkg
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Unlimited gets throttled at 3gb... If u avg 2.5 check out the mobile share plans no throttling and they go upto 50gb... if u wanna keep unlimited don't order online cuz they'll swap ur data pkg
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Not sure exactly what you're saying here.
If I don't get throttled until after 3G, then what's to worry about? How much 'throttling' is there? How does one tell if the plan has been changed?
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Unlimited gets throttled at 3gb... If u avg 2.5 check out the mobile share plans no throttling and they go upto 50gb... if u wanna keep unlimited don't order online cuz they'll swap ur data pkg
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If I recall, LTE unlimited data plan cap is 5GB.
yep. If your on att, always keep your unlimited. Only way to lose it is if they accidentally upgrade your data plan to 3gb or whatever data, or move you to the mobile share plan.
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Not sure exactly what you're saying here.
If I don't get throttled until after 3G, then what's to worry about? How much 'throttling' is there? How does one tell if the plan has been changed?
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You should be able to keep your data plan regardless of how you order, but as someone else mentioned, the "unlimited" data plan is only unlimited until you are throttled at the 3 gig mark (I do believe its 5 gig for LTE users), at which point you drop to 2G speeds (and let me tell you, 2G is not fun) for the remainder of your billing period. If the Premiere site isn't letting you keep the plan, then you should be able to call and place the same order over the phone with a rep, and the rep should be able to retain your data plan. Otherwise, if you remove the data plan, even accidentally, you cannot get it back, so be very careful about what you click.
AT&T changed the specifics of the "unlimited" plan a while ago without changing the actual name of the plan, to keep people happy. So the "unlimited" and "3GB" data plans are essentially similar now.
Im with O2 Uk
We have two phones through my wife's contract.
On my SGS II I had unlimited data. I never realized just how much I used it until a O2 rep called to "let us know" I had used about 6 gig of data that month. Wanted to know what it was on and that all was ok, LOL
Funnily 4 months before my upgrade they called again to say they will not be continuing the Unlimited option as they deemed 1-2 gig to be enough.
And trust me, you don't miss it till its gone! Im now watching every darn kb pass in fear of it running out, for me 1-2-3 GB is nothing.
The frustrating thing is, they wont offer me a plan with more than 2 gb a month??...
So Im now having to look in to getting a external Bluetooth sim thing (tbh, cant remember what they're called, which isn't helping me find the one im after.. )
I'm now jealous of a friend that has kept his unlimited plan for the past 5 or so years.... (was a special offer, bet they didn't see him keeping it this long lol) He's even forfeited his phone upgrades to keep the contract, smart guy.
My advice, Never give up your unlimited mobile internet.
Oh, and just before all you haters start hating, I don't tether and I don't torrent on my plan :angel: , I do alot of streaming :good:
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We have two phones through my wife's contract.
On my SGS II I had unlimited data. I never realized just how much I used it until a O2 rep called to "let us know" I had used about 6 gig of data that month. Wanted to know what it was on and that all was ok, LOL
Funnily 4 months before my upgrade they called again to say they will not be continuing the Unlimited option as they deemed 1-2 gig to be enough.
And trust me, you don't miss it till its gone! Im now watching every darn kb pass in fear of it running out, for me 1-2-3 GB is nothing.
The frustrating thing is, they wont offer me a plan with more than 2 gb a month??...
So Im now having to look in to getting a external Bluetooth sim thing (tbh, cant remember what they're called, which isn't helping me find the one im after.. )
I'm now jealous of a friend that has kept his unlimited plan for the past 5 or so years.... (was a special offer, bet they didn't see him keeping it this long lol) He's even forfeited his phone upgrades to keep the contract, smart guy.
My advice, Never give up your unlimited mobile internet.
Oh, and just before all you haters start hating, I don't tether and I don't torrent on my plan :angel: , I do alot of streaming :good:
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You clearly know nothing of the people in the US that run 90-150 gigs per month off of their unlimited LTE data plans.
I used to have unlimited when I had a BlackBerry years ago but when I switched to the Samsung Captivate I had to change the data plan and I lost it. I've had 2 a month ever since and I always have to monitor my data with 3g watchdog. Thinking about changing it to 3 GB when I pre-order the HTC one since it's only $5 more a month.
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Didn't want to take a chance of loosing my grandfathered unlimited data plan so I went to a corporate store yesterday and placed the order there for upgrade of phone only. They also included the media link which was out of stock yesterday afternoon but was restocked later in the evening online.
Keep the unlimited. I use up a lot of data on Plex app and DirecTV alone.
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You should be able to keep your data plan regardless of how you order... AT&T changed the specifics of the "unlimited" plan a while ago without changing the actual name of the plan, to keep people happy. So the "unlimited" and "3GB" data plans are essentially similar now.
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Ok, so just to be sure I'm on the same page, when I upgraded, I selected the box which said this, and my current (post-upgrade) services show:
Data Unlimited SmartPhone Personal
Data Plan for SmartPhones. Unlimited domestic data usage. Only available for upgrades. Requires customers to be on a "Gold List" Data Unlimited SmartPhone Plan prior to upgrade to 4G device.
I presme that's the right one, yes?
I am in the same position. I have the unlimited plan and I'm thinking about getting the HTC One.
I will not give up my plan because I regularly go over 3gb. I received the text message threatening to throttle my speed after 3gb but never really noticed the difference after 3gb.
I remember when I was upgrading to the iphone 4 back in 2010 I had the choice of keeping unlimited data or drop to 2GB and save $5 a month. At the time I was not even close to 2gb so I dropped down to save some $$.
Fast forward to 2013.
I do about 6GB a month. Without even trying. LTE was a game changer.
I regret giving up my unlimited data.. They even raised the throttling to 5GB.
I ordered online but before doing so I talked to representatives. They told me if I ordered it but called them before activation they can make sure that you don't lose the unlimited data. I have backup in the form of a chat online with their representative just in case they try to not honor their word.
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Ok, so just to be sure I'm on the same page, when I upgraded, I selected the box which said this, and my current (post-upgrade) services show:
Data Unlimited SmartPhone Personal
Data Plan for SmartPhones. Unlimited domestic data usage. Only available for upgrades. Requires customers to be on a "Gold List" Data Unlimited SmartPhone Plan prior to upgrade to 4G device.
I presme that's the right one, yes?
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Looks right to me.
At&T throttle?
ATT has threatened to throttle my unlimited every month for the past year or two. I always get the same two messages and it never happens. At least not that I can tell. I'm sure they do throttle, but it's never actually happened to me. I run speedtest pretty regularly and Netflix never has any trouble.
Never let them take away your unlimited data. They will have to pry it from my cold dead hands.