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if the story is true and Motorola releases their XOOM / Everest tablet in 4 days, and its up to me.. ill be porting the honeycomb 3.0 to our tablet very,very fast..
at least its told here, its released with android honeycomb 3.0 but since Nvidia havent even posted their SDK for 3.0 on the tegra2 site, im not sure how reliabe it really is.. but lets just hope its true..
see here for the story and video preview.
another video
I feel confident we can adapt most apps and the OS, so please if you find more details or even a early system dump, don't hesitate to post it here..
God damnit, when you release honeycomb I will donate a hell lot of redbulls Go Dexter!
Just noticed yesterday they have a gingerbread-froyo branch on http://nv-tegra.nvidia.com/gitweb/
I think it will take a while until Google will release the source for Honeycomb. I doubt this will happen before the launch of the Motorola in February.
Honeycomb 3.0 on our folio, it sounds like a dream coming true (a)
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I think it will take a while until Google will release the source for Honeycomb. I doubt this will happen before the launch of the Motorola in February.
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if motorola is able to show the honeycomb running on their tegra2 tablet (or least saying it is) somehow the 3.0 is maybe only used internally now?
i don't think any video actually show the "version" number on their tablets, they're not like the community bragging alot showing release os pages or snaps
but lets hope it true.
I think Motorola and Google are working together on this. Motorola has access to the Honeycomb tree which has not been released to the public.
This is not uncommon in android history, as the Xoom will be the flagship device for Honeycomb, they have access to the source earlier.
This is the same as with he Motorola Droid and 2.0 or the Samsung Nexus S with 2.3
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I think Motorola and Google are working together on this. Motorola has access to the Honeycomb tree which has not been released to the public.
This is not uncommon in android history, as the Xoom will be the flagship device for Honeycomb, they have access to the source earlier.
This is the same as with he Motorola Droid and 2.0 or the Samsung Nexus S with 2.3
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This should be available soon! Google is talking in terms of weeks, and there's too many rumors and sneakpeaks to be a false positive!
The software for 3.0 will be retro compatible with earlier versions of android, but should take advantage of larger screens and faster processors.
We should remember that iPad 2 is to be release in February and Google must antecipate this in order to take the lead.
Toshiba is not very clear about folio 100 future update or not, and if it will be able to run honeycomb (except for processor part), but since toshiba is planning to release new tablet, personally I think it's gonna be only Gingerbread 2.3 for our folio 100, but I hope I'm wrong!!
The only hope for our folio 100 is xda dev forum and dexter
also folio 100 screen is not the best screen comparing to others cheap tablets, too bad from big company named Toshiba.
you can read this French test for folio 100 especially screen part over here Folio 100 test (google translation)
so wait and see..
Source: Honeycomb to Require Powerful Processor
Google's new Android Honeycomb tablet OS will require a dual-core ARM Cortex-A9 processor to run properly, said Bobby Cha, managing director of Korean consumer electronics firm Enspert.
That means that many existing Android tablets will not be upgradeable to Honeycomb, as they lack the processor necessary to meet the spec. Currently, Nvidia's Tegra 2 platform is the only chipset in products on the market to include a Cortex-A9, although other manufacturers have said they're moving to the new processor architecture for 2011 products.
A 1,280x720 screen resolution may also be necessary, although Cha affirmed that "Honeycomb does not require 10-inch [screens] ... it's going to go as small as 7 inch."
Google introduced Honeycomb running on a prototype Motorola device last month, but they've kept the hardware requirements under wraps. Cha also confirmed that the Motorola tablet would be the first to market with Honeycomb.
If this is true, Google will have two parallel software paths for tablets, at least for a while. With their Cortex-A8 processors and 1,024x600 screens, the popular Samsung Galaxy Tab line of Android tablets run the "Froyo" version of Android, 2.2, and can be updated to Gingerbread, 2.3, but not to Honeycomb.
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This could be true, but i don't think they will stick to a single screen resolution! From what i understand resolution is not the main issue, cpu and memory is. In the 2.3 we already have support for different screen resolution, i don't think 3.0 will be different.
I don't now about you people, but I really don't count on Toshiba.
1% chance that toshiba will keep supporting this tablet, 99% chance that people like Dexter will keep supporting the folio. (my opinion^^)
Before the folio I had bought a toshiba laptop for my little brother, it is a fine laptop and prece-quality it deserves an A+, but after the folio... I don't think i will ever buy something from toshiba again...
Hi all,
TechRadar is revealing some rumors that honeycomb will in fact be 2.4 and not the 3.0 we are expecting. I believe that this could be true because they still have to support the recently launched tablets.
Android 3.0 could be a lot different from android we know and require more specific hardware to run.
Regards,
Bastospn
Yeah also heard these rumours, and it indeed could make some sense:
2.3 -> Gingerbread update for all devices
2.4 -> Honeycomb -> Gingerbread codebase with tablet modifications
3.0 -> unification of both versions, new codebase
hope our folio can upgrade to honeycomb
asus unveil new honeycomb tablet on 4th jan 2011:
Android 3.0 (Honeycomb)
NVIDIA Tegra 2
512MB/1GB RAM
16/32GB eMMC
10.1" 1280x800 IPS
1.2 MP front/5 MP rear
USB Host 2.0 support
Headphone/mic-in/mini HDMI/SD card reader/1 internal microphone/stereo speakers/dock port
273x180x17.7mm/886g
This is good news, if we manage to port the firmware I mean.
I also don't believe that toshiba will update the android version on Folio. They could release some update with Flash within, but they will not spend to much time supporting this "old tablet". This is in my opinion very very sad, and if you compare this with Apple you start to think that despite being more expensive iPad could in fact be a better deal.
The good news is that android is opensource and we could trust in the community aid.
Regards,
Bastospn
bastospn said:
This is good news, if we manage to port the firmware I mean.
I also don't believe that toshiba will update the android version on Folio. They could release some update with Flash within, but they will not spend to much time supporting this "old tablet". This is in my opinion very very sad, and if you compare this with Apple you start to think that despite being more expensive iPad could in fact be a better deal.
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i honestly think the hardware do have minor bugs, which Toshiba knows and don't want to continue the relationship with that company so the new tablet is probably made by someone else and with better display.
but yes foundation was actually quite ok when it got modded
I agree that hardware wise Folio is quite a good deal (if you ignore the lousy LCD screen).
Regards,
Bastospn
I don't know if you have seen the video of Honeycomb released by Google.
It's available at Engadget.
The GUI is looking very good.
oh my god i want that gmail app !!!
From a hardware perspective or our folio is good enough to hande honeycomb. 512 ram and a Tegra 2 (reference for it rumored).
And looking at the specs of the new ta let it's just a folio with a new screen. But time will tell!
Any more details on Honeycomb? I can't wait to see it running on my Folio!
Ok, so notion ink releases a statement about how their hardware was changed to support Ventana instead of Harmony.
h ttp://notionink.wordpress. com /2011/02/08/in-the-mean-time/
Harmony and Ventana are two Tegra platforms and in September we made few hardware changes to make Adam Ventana compatible. That was done cos we sensed only Ventana devices will be able to run Honeycomb and we were right.
Next I checked nvidias developer website and saw this:
h ttp://developer.nvidia. com /tegra/devkit-ventana
The Tegra 2 "Ventana" development kit is targeted at developers creating software for Android 2.3 "Gingerbread" and above. The development kit is a quasi-tablet design and includes many devices and sensors found in Android based tablets.
So my questions are the following:
Is there any truth to the Honeycomb only running well on Ventana and not Harmony?
Is ventana a specific piece of hardware?
If not, is it just a set of "recommended" hardware features?
Will the current G tablet meet the requirements for ventana development if it is just software/recommended hardware?
I hope I'm not overstepping my bounds with to many questions at once.
Karl
Note: Please forgive the url formatting. I haven't posted enough to be allowed to post URLs yet.
kraulerson said:
Ok, so notion ink releases a statement about how their hardware was changed to support Ventana instead of Harmony.
h ttp://notionink.wordpress. com /2011/02/08/in-the-mean-time/
Harmony and Ventana are two Tegra platforms and in September we made few hardware changes to make Adam Ventana compatible. That was done cos we sensed only Ventana devices will be able to run Honeycomb and we were right.
Next I checked nvidias developer website and saw this:
h ttp://developer.nvidia. com /tegra/devkit-ventana
The Tegra 2 "Ventana" development kit is targeted at developers creating software for Android 2.3 "Gingerbread" and above. The development kit is a quasi-tablet design and includes many devices and sensors found in Android based tablets.
So my questions are the following:
Is there any truth to the Honeycomb only running well on Ventana and not Harmony?
Is ventana a specific piece of hardware?
If not, is it just a set of "recommended" hardware features?
Will the current G tablet meet the requirements for ventana development if it is just software/recommended hardware?
I hope I'm not overstepping my bounds with to many questions at once.
Karl
Note: Please forgive the url formatting. I haven't posted enough to be allowed to post URLs yet.
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Well, Notion Ink is not a reliable source, IMHO. However, if he was able to make a few simple HW mods to his existing Harmony device, and the rest is true, I do not see an problem making similar HW mods to the gtab, should they be necessary.
However, more likely, Honeycomb will run on harmony, and/or Notion Ink is lying.
Jim
I do agree that Notion Ink cannot be quoted as a truly reliable source, but I hadn't even heard about there being 2 different platforms for the Tegra 2. Also, with the fact of the Xoom coming out this month, means it had to be in production for a while so how did they manage to do it? Also, how did NI make hardware changes in september of '10 for Ventana if the nvidia blogs says the chips won't be out till the end of Feb '11? It's very odd from the bit of digging that I've done.
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I do agree that Notion Ink cannot be quoted as a truly reliable source, but I hadn't even heard about there being 2 different platforms for the Tegra 2. Also, with the fact of the Xoom coming out this month, means it had to be in production for a while so how did they manage to do it? Also, how did NI make hardware changes in september of '10 for Ventana if the nvidia blogs says the chips won't be out till the end of Feb '11? It's very odd from the bit of digging that I've done.
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The man makes a very compelling argument.
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If you haven't figured out yet that for the most part Rohan is talking out his .... then I don't know what to tell you. It's amazing how an upstart overseas company seems to be able to know the future before anyone else....eden is close to honeycomb....adam is venetta
kraulerson said:
I do agree that Notion Ink cannot be quoted as a truly reliable source, but I hadn't even heard about there being 2 different platforms for the Tegra 2. Also, with the fact of the Xoom coming out this month, means it had to be in production for a while so how did they manage to do it? Also, how did NI make hardware changes in september of '10 for Ventana if the nvidia blogs says the chips won't be out till the end of Feb '11? It's very odd from the bit of digging that I've done.
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This.
thebadfrog said:
If you haven't figured out yet that for the most part Rohan is talking out his .... then I don't know what to tell you. It's amazing how an upstart overseas company seems to be able to know the future before anyone else....eden is close to honeycomb....adam is venetta
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And most assuredly this.
Do you mean "official" Honeycomb support? (i.e. from Viewsonic)
Or unofficial Honeycomb? (i.e. via xda-developers ROMs)
The Nook Color is running Honeycomb (though just a hacked preview based on the pre-SDK) pretty well...It's screen resolution is the same as the gTablet, and it's specs are worse...
I wouldn't bet on a release from Viewsonic...I'd be willing to wager that there will be a Honeycomb port for gTablet within a few weeks (or less) of the Xoom being released...
So mid-March...LOL...
TeutonicWolf said:
I'd be willing to wager that there will be a Honeycomb port for gTablet within a few weeks (or less) of the Xoom being released...
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I totally agree with that one... BTW, I wouldn't be too worried regarding hardware spec requirements for Honeycomb - if somebody can port it to the Dell Streak (http://www.mytabletlife.com/2011/02/08/dell-streak-honeycomb-port/), then I'm sure that even if there were different Tegra2 versions, it wouldn't be much of a show-stopper.
I am afraid to revive this post that is almost a month and half old but i found a post at nvidia and i realized that the main question was not yet answered or clarified.
Any ideas on this??
http://developer.nvidia.com/tegra/forum/honeycomb-harmony
I still can't find definitive answers as to the difference between harmony and ventana.
The latest update from Nvidia
The latest update from Nvidia:
UPDATE 13 APRIL 2011
A lot has been read into a very short post about a Tegra development kit. I'd like to clear up a few points.
First, nothing changes in what we’re delivering to the open source community or customers. NVIDIA will continue to post the Tegra kernel to kernel.org and publish our Android code to our public git servers. Additionally, we will continue to make our BSP (codecs, GPU driver etc) available to all our hardware partners. We will continue to do this and nothing about these processes has changed.
For our partners' Android devices, NVIDIA provides support until the hardware partner chooses to no longer support the device. So, for instance, NVIDIA will support the Xoom on all versions of Android Motorola requests until Motorola ceases to support the Xoom. The same goes for ViewSonic with the G-Tablet, Notion Ink with the Adam, Acer with the Iconia, LG with the Optimus 2X and so on.
In relation to my original reply, that was a response to a specific question about a Tegra 250 Development Kit. Given the confusion, we will work with owners of Tegra 250 Development Kits individually to determine their needs. The term "Harmony" is an internal codename for the Tegra 250 Development Kit. It is not a tablet reference design. Each shipping tablet is a custom design with varying hardware components and requires a custom OS image from the OEM who made the tablet.
Finally, while we cannot support or give out third party peripheral drivers or provide the Android 3.0 source before Google does, we do want to explore whether we can assist the open source ROM makers. We will be reaching out to them today.
Andrew Edelsten
Tegra Developer Relations
NVIDIA Corporation
Just thought this was sad....
http://developer.nvidia.com/tegra/forum/honeycomb-harmony
Probably the wrong forum for this, but I think the G-Tab will be my 1st and only android device.
From day 1 till now I have had a bad taste in my mouth between Viewsonic's dropping the ball, Google's Honeycomb decisions, and finally Nvidia's dropping the platform not even 1 year in. This is a mess.
Thanks to XDA as they have been the only group in this mess who actually cared about the end users, and they were unpaid enthusiasts. That's a huge strike against android as a viable platform.
Virtual Pariah said:
Probably the wrong forum for this, but I think the G-Tab will be my 1st and only android device.
From day 1 till now I have had a bad taste in my mouth between Viewsonic's dropping the ball, Google's Honeycomb decisions, and finally Nvidia's dropping the platform not even 1 year in. This is a mess.
Thanks to XDA as they have been the only group in this mess who actually cared about the end users, and they were unpaid enthusiasts. That's a huge strike against android as a viable platform.
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What's the difference as long as the need is being taken care of?
For many this platform and tab have been taken from a mere consumption device to a learning tool. Who else, is offering such opportunity to better learn a mobile platform in and out?
Sometime we look right past the obvious. I would much more so want to learn than sit and play games or consume. To each his own.
Wow! Out of all the companies, nvidia was the last company I thought would do this. Reputation of driver support is just about the most important thing a chip company can have.
edirector said:
What's the difference as long as the need is being taken care of?
For many this platform and tab have been taken from a mere consumption device to a learning tool. Who else, is offering such opportunity to better learn a mobile platform in and out?
Sometime we look right past the obvious. I would much more so want to learn than sit and play games or consume. To each his own.
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I see where you are going, but, without official support most of the enthusiast devs will migrate to another platform.
To me, the loss of the manufacturer's input would be the death knell for the device.
Most people who have paid for this tablet did so for the media consumption capabilities. At least in the general population.
I'm a tad confused that anyone would be considering withdrawal of official support a good thing...
Moved to Q&A.
Just saw an update from a nvidia rep...
UPDATE 12 APRIL 2011:
Sorry folks looks like I caused a bit of confusion. Since this is a developer forum my comments were targeted at Tegra Honeycomb developers and for this we’d like to focus on Ventana. For shipping or production products, customers should contact the device makers directly for OS support plans. They are responsible for the OS shipping on their device.
In relation to our linux kernel git repository, NVIDIA will continue to provide full open-source support for all of our kernel components and will push more of that upstream over time.
Andrew Edelsten
Tegra Developer Relations
NVIDIA Corporation
Can someone give me the plain english version?
Between this and the recent google 3.0 annoincement they must be dancing in the streets in Cupertino
thevaristy said:
Just saw an update from a nvidia rep...
UPDATE 12 APRIL 2011:
Sorry folks looks like I caused a bit of confusion. Since this is a developer forum my comments were targeted at Tegra Honeycomb developers and for this we’d like to focus on Ventana. For shipping or production products, customers should contact the device makers directly for OS support plans. They are responsible for the OS shipping on their device.
In relation to our linux kernel git repository, NVIDIA will continue to provide full open-source support for all of our kernel components and will push more of that upstream over time.
Andrew Edelsten
Tegra Developer Relations
NVIDIA Corporation
Can someone give me the plain english version?
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Does this mean that they are supporting Gtablet Nvidia drivers. ???
Let us all hope Nvida will change there minds after a bunch of emails to support harmony on gingerbread and honeycomb
A good news from Nvidia ???
The newest update from Nvidia looks good (see below).
They will support the gtablet as long as viewsonic supports it. Nvidia is listening.
Now we have to keep the pressure on viewsonic for the support.
UPDATE 13 APRIL 2011
A lot has been read into a very short post about a Tegra development kit. I'd like to clear up a few points.
First, nothing changes in what we’re delivering to the open source community or customers. NVIDIA will continue to post the Tegra kernel to kernel.org and publish our Android code to our public git servers. Additionally, we will continue to make our BSP (codecs, GPU driver etc) available to all our hardware partners. We will continue to do this and nothing about these processes has changed.
For our partners' Android devices, NVIDIA provides support until the hardware partner chooses to no longer support the device. So, for instance, NVIDIA will support the Xoom on all versions of Android Motorola requests until Motorola ceases to support the Xoom. The same goes for ViewSonic with the G-Tablet, Notion Ink with the Adam, Acer with the Iconia, LG with the Optimus 2X and so on.
In relation to my original reply, that was a response to a specific question about a Tegra 250 Development Kit. Given the confusion, we will work with owners of Tegra 250 Development Kits individually to determine their needs. The term "Harmony" is an internal codename for the Tegra 250 Development Kit. It is not a tablet reference design. Each shipping tablet is a custom design with varying hardware components and requires a custom OS image from the OEM who made the tablet.
Finally, while we cannot support or give out third party peripheral drivers or provide the Android 3.0 source before Google does, we do want to explore whether we can assist the open source ROM makers. We will be reaching out to them today.
Andrew Edelsten
Tegra Developer Relations
NVIDIA Corporation
Here is the link:
http://www.slashgear.com/android-ice-cream-sandwich-devices-to-arrive-in-october-09170602/
A new rumor is spreading today that we could be seeing devices with Google’s next-gen Android platform, called Ice Cream Sandwich, launching as early as October. Since Apple’s iPhone 5 is expected to arrive sometime in September or October, it’s believed that Google will rush the new platform to counter the major Apple development.
Google may also be concerned about getting Ice Cream Sandwich devices out before November because that month marks the two-year anniversary of the original Motorola Droid. The Droid is considered by many to be the first handset to really put Android on the map and make it a serious contender in the mobile market. With the two-year contracts expiring, these customers, now free to switch phones and even carriers completely penatly-free, may jump for the iPhone 5.
Android 4 Ice Cream Sandwich was first announced back at Google I/O and will be a unifying platform for both tablets and smartphones. Currently, tablets run on Android Honeycomb while smartphones run on Android Gingerbread. With Ice Cream Sandwich, smartphones will get many of the Honeycomb features such as the multitasking UI, the launcher, and richer widgets.
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First screenshots of Android Ice Cream Sandwich :
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...m-sandwich-screenshots-plus-more-ics-details/
I wonder if we can expect this for the gtablet. I hope so!
Edit I don't think so anymore lol
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barqers said:
I wonder if we can expect this for the gtablet. I hope so!
Edit I don't think so anymore lol
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Don't forget that Google will release it HoneyComb source code if Ice Cream is released.
And since Ice Cream is a hybrid of the phone and tablet, let just hope some Genius dev. here will put out a rom version for out Gtablet
y2k-inc said:
Don't forget that Google will release it HoneyComb source code if Ice Cream is released.
And since Ice Cream is a hybrid of the phone and tablet, let just hope some Genius dev. here will put out a rom version for out Gtablet
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Agreed. I wish I was genius enough to help out but unfortunately I know very little about Linux ! Being a Windows user myself.
My expectations are lower, I hope they release IceCream for a similar device so some awesome devs can make it mostly work on the gTab.
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My expectations are lower, I hope they release IceCream for a similar device so some awesome devs can make it mostly work on the gTab.
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As long as it works similarly to the current hc roms ill be happy
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barqers said:
I wonder if we can expect this for the gtablet. I hope so!
Edit I don't think so anymore lol
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Don't hold your breath!!! Viewsonic just posted this on their Facebook page Monday:
ViewSonic
All,
Maybe this will help. The OTA updater is not controlled by ViewSonic, and the 4349 update was pulled, apparently because there were issues with that version.
In the last three weeks, we have been trying to clear up erroneous information in regards to our support, nVidia, and the OTA. We are still working on some of these issues.
FACT - nVidia is only supporting Gingerbread and Honeycomb on their Ventana platform. gTablet will NOT see drivers or Android upgrades beyond Android 2.2 from ViewSonic. ViewSonic has had direct conversations with nVidia about this issue.
OTA Update: We are still awaiting a response from Flex regarding authorization for TNT. We will post information regarding this issue, when we learn more.
There it is again, no drivers, no android updates past Froyo = no official Honey or Ice Cream from Viewsonic!!!!
aabbondanza said:
Don't hold your breath!!! Viewsonic just posted this on their Facebook page Monday:
ViewSonic
All,
Maybe this will help. The OTA updater is not controlled by ViewSonic, and the 4349 update was pulled, apparently because there were issues with that version.
In the last three weeks, we have been trying to clear up erroneous information in regards to our support, nVidia, and the OTA. We are still working on some of these issues.
FACT - nVidia is only supporting Gingerbread and Honeycomb on their Ventana platform. gTablet will NOT see drivers or Android upgrades beyond Android 2.2 from ViewSonic. ViewSonic has had direct conversations with nVidia about this issue.
OTA Update: We are still awaiting a response from Flex regarding authorization for TNT. We will post information regarding this issue, when we learn more.
There it is again, no drivers, no android updates past Froyo = no official Honey or Ice Cream from Viewsonic!!!!
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Figures. Time to boycott nvidia and vyewsonic lol. Honestly I don't know why they think we care about their ota stuff when it won't even include updated drivers?
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Don't hold your breath!!! Viewsonic just posted this on their Facebook page Monday:
ViewSonic
FACT - nVidia is only supporting Gingerbread and Honeycomb on their Ventana platform. gTablet will NOT see drivers or Android upgrades beyond Android 2.2 from ViewSonic. ViewSonic has had direct conversations with nVidia about this issue.
There it is again, no drivers, no android updates past Froyo = no official Honey or Ice Cream from Viewsonic!!!!
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Not so true, VS is lying and a BIG lie:
Quote from other forum:
Aug 8 2011 at 6:18 PM
#173
To Nvidea:
Viewsonic had a Facebook discussion that they opened for Gtablet users to pst concerns and questions. Many of us have asked Viewsonic to request drivers from Nvidea for Gingerbread, or Honeycomb support. We were told, in a prior post on this very forum:
For our partners' Android devices, NVIDIA provides support until the hardware partner chooses to no longer support the device. So, for instance, NVIDIA will support the Xoom on all versions of Android Motorola requests until Motorola ceases to support the Xoom. The same goes for ViewSonic with the G-Tablet, Notion Ink with the Adam, Acer with the Iconia, LG with the Optimus 2X and so on.
Less than an hour ago, Viewsonic updated their Facebook discussion to include this update:
All,
Maybe this will help. The OTA updater is not controlled by ViewSonic, and the 4349 update was pulled, apparently because there were issues with that version.
In the last three weeks, we have been trying to clear up erroneous information in regards to our support, nVidia, and the OTA. We are still working on some of these issues.
FACT - nVidia is only supporting Gingerbread and Honeycomb on their Ventana platform. gTablet will NOT see drivers or Android upgrades beyond Android 2.2 from ViewSonic. ViewSonic has had direct conversations with nVidia about this issue.
OTA Update: We are still awaiting a response from Flex regarding authorization for TNT. We will post information regarding this issue, when we learn more.
So, what exactly is the truth? Nvidie told us that they would provide support on all versions of android that a hardware partner (including Viewsonic) requests until that hardware partner (including Viewsonic) chooses not to support the device.
But, not Viewsonic (hardware partner) states that Nvidia will only support Gingerbread and Honeycomb on the Ventana platform. Viewsonic is showing that they are not "choosing to not support their device, and that they have made an attempt to request support for the the hardware from Nvidia.
Basic questions here:
Did Viewsonic contact Nvidia to attempt to get hardware support above Android 2.2 for the Gtablet?
Will Nvidia stay true to their comment and provide support for ALL android versions at the request of the hardware partner?
If Viewsonic did request such support, and Nvidia has pledged to provide such support for ALL android versions, then why would Viewsonic tell their Gtablet users that Nvidia will not support any android version above 2.2 for the Harmony platform?
I can certainly say that Viewsonic Gtablet OWNERS are a little more than sick and tired of the runaround that we're getting. We are upset at Viewsonic, many of us beginning a boycott campaign. I personally, have pledged to provide negative comments in reviews of ALL Viewsonic products on various online retailer sites. I won't be reviewing products, but rather product support and customer service. It wouldn't be too difficult to do the same to Nvidia products as well. When the Tegra 3 is released, will support for all Tegra 2 devices (not just harmony) be cut off as well? Will the Xoom, Iconia, EEE pad, etc, not have official drivers for Ice Cream Sandwich, or other, yet to be determined, Android versions? That could be a lot of potential negativity for a publicly traded company. I'm sure that stockholders wouldn't appreciate it.
Please respond in kind to these questions, and let me know in the most basic terms. Will Tegra 2 Harmony devices ever get support from Nvidia for any Android version above 2.2? I don't want corporate double speak, a simple yes or no answer will suffice.
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Now, how about Malata & Adam Inc, Vegan ??? Are there any light out of the tunnel for them, specially Adam & Vaga as they are pushing Honeycomb development forward ... We will see the true until Google release the HC source code, if that nvidia will release it driver for the HC harmony too ... if not than it's time to boycott both Google for being a big fat cow and nvidia & VS for it noncooperation
Who's the bad boy!!!
y2k-inc said:
Not so true, VS is lying and a BIG lie:
Quote from other forum:
Now, how about Malata & Adam Inc, Vegan ??? Are there any light out of the tunnel for them, specially Adam & Vaga as they are pushing Honeycomb development forward ... We will see the true until Google release the HC source code, if that nvidia will release it driver for the HC harmony too ... if not than it's time to boycott both Google for being a big fat cow and nvidia & VS for it noncooperation
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Unfortunately, companies can & do change their tune on a regular basis. Just because NVidia said they would support Harmony doesn't mean they actually will or haven't changed their minds. Maybe the next step is badgering NVidia to support their product!!! Sounds like the ball is in NVidia's ball park & it's up to them if we will get to play!
nVidia & Viewsonic want to force us to buy NEW devices. Too bad you have not even had it for a year and support is gone! Heck Apple is still supporting the original iPad and Touch products!
The full potential of our gTabs has not even been scratched and and it is being treated like a Touchpad. Makes me sick
well since theyre forcing me to, I guess I will have to get a new tablet...
but I can assure you it wont be nvidia or viewsonic branded
Im going TI OMAP with the next tablet, for sure!
http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/09/hp-webos-to-live-on-through-open-source-hardware-lineup-still/
When HP abruptly announced it was discontinuing the TouchPad and ceasing work on any future devices running webOS, we took that to mean the underdog operating system had died a premature death. But when the company ousted bumbling CEO Leo Apotheker and replaced him with Meg Whitman, we had to wonder if webOS might have some life in it yet. Well, the company just came back with a final verdict: the company will continue to develop webOS, as promised, but with the help of the open source community. In other words, webOS as a platform will live on, and developers both inside HP and out will spruce up the OS for interested OEMs (whoever they may be), along with people who already own webOS devices. Says Sam Greenblatt, CTO of the outfit's advanced technologies division: "We looked at all the various options we have on the table. We think this option is the best for the tech industry and HP."
Still, if you were hoping Whitman would resurrect the TouchPad and Pre 3 beyond just another fire sale, we hate to be the bearer of disappointing news. The bottom line: HP's webOS hardware lineup is still dead -- for now, at least. Greenblatt emphasized that HP might later choose to build devices running webOS, the same way any other OEM would evaluate any other operating system. In an interview, company representatives were also quick to say that with the help of developers outside HP, webOS could become a more attractive choice for devices other than phones and tablets (printers, anyone?). Still, though Greenblatt says there has been a "great deal" of interest from companies eyeing the software, it remains unclear which manufactures, if any, will decide to give the OS a more immediate home.
So how long would we have to wait until we see AWESOME webOS hit the forums?
Oh and here's there Press Release...
HP to Contribute webOS to Open Source
HP to enable creativity of the community to accelerate the next-generation web-centric platform
PALO ALTO, Calif., Dec. 9, 2011 – HP today announced it will contribute the webOS software to the open source community.
HP plans to continue to be active in the development and support of webOS. By combining the innovative webOS platform with the development power of the open source community, there is the opportunity to significantly improve applications and web services for the next generation of devices.
webOS offers a number of benefits to the entire ecosystem of web applications. For developers, applications can be easily built using standard web technologies. In addition, its single integrated stack offers multiplatform portability. For device manufacturers, it provides a single web-centric platform to run across multiple devices. As a result, the end user benefits from a fast, immersive user experience.
"webOS is the only platform designed from the ground up to be mobile, cloud-connected and scalable," said Meg Whitman, HP president and chief executive officer. "By contributing this innovation, HP unleashes the creativity of the open source community to advance a new generation of applications and devices."
HP will make the underlying code of webOS available under an open source license. Developers, partners, HP engineers and other hardware manufacturers can deliver ongoing enhancements and new versions into the marketplace.
HP will engage the open source community to help define the charter of the open source project under a set of operating principles:
- The goal of the project is to accelerate the open development of the
webOS platform
- HP will be an active participant and investor in the project
- Good, transparent and inclusive governance to avoid fragmentation
- Software will be provided as a pure open source project
HP also will contribute ENYO, the application framework for webOS, to the community in the near future along with a plan for the remaining components of the user space.
Beginning today, developers and customers are invited to provide input and suggestions at http://developer.palm.com/blog/.
LOL, have you seen the HP web OS guys business card... Here it is
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Looks like the EVO3D is already running webOS
http://mobile.theverge.com/2011/12/...r-htcs-evo-3d-a-proof-of-concept-for-the-time
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wow no one cares for webOS? I was so ****in stocked i thought this thread would get stickied ahah wow.
LOL, I think its good stuff anything out of the ordinary is cool
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This is a whole new operating system for us and the dev at webOS has a 3d and already got it booted I believe. I'm ****ing stoked
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The EVO 3d boot is 3 months old. But um looking forward to this.
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I also am looking forward to this. I think it would be quite fun to run on BootManager. If they could figure out how to make the android market and apps compatible with webOS that would make even more tempting for many people. I for one am very much so in love with webOS.
It's the only viable option to Android. Seeing it Open Source is such good news.
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