Hello XDA, I have two questions:
- It's possible to run android on HTC 7 Mozart (2.1 2.2 2.3 or 3.0) ?
- It's possible to run iOS 4.X on HTC 7 Mozart ?
If it's possible how to ? Thanks all.
no and no
it's too soon for an android build - the Blackstone has been around for many years and still hasn't got a fully working android build - and THAT device has the ability to run haret...wp7 devices dont
iOS wont be available for ANY non-apple device
Julian-SG said:
Hello XDA, I have two questions:
- It's possible to run android on HTC 7 Mozart (2.1 2.2 2.3 or 3.0) ?
- It's possible to run iOS 4.X on HTC 7 Mozart ?
If it's possible how to ? Thanks all.
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There are several threads asking for Android for Mozart, there were no need to start a new one.
Also don't you think it's easy to buy a phone with android, if you want android, or an iphone if you want ios, rather than installing the OS on an unsupported device?
Smartphones are not computers...
Well, It looks like the DFT have made a breakthrough (check their twitter @cotullacode). It looks like they've patched the spl, which would mean that the possibility is there
well the SPL is certainly a start
now they just need to crack the bootloader, rework the entire OS to be able to run EXEs, crack the system to allow root access to the filesystem to upload a virtual linux FS, compile a working linux kernel, reconfigure the drivers for the screen, buttons, radio, camera, wifi etc, get them all working together.
then we just need to get unlocked devices to run it all.
sorry to sound pessimistic, but i know how long it's taken people to get semi-working versions of android for other handsets which have much larger user-bases than the mozart
as i said, the blackstone STILL isn't working well enough for day-to-day use and they've JUST got the camera working...ish....and that project has been going for about 2 years with MASSES of people on it. That ran WM6 which already had the ability to run EXEs and an accessible filesystem and no root access needed.
i really wouldn't hold your breath for a long time yet
On the other hand though when cotulla managed to get haret to work on the HD2, development really took off. I mean it's only been about 7 months since then and now the HD2 is as stable as the next off the shelf android phone
yes, but the HD2 already had the facility to run custom EXE files and full & free access to the filesystem. Plus again it had a much larger user base than the Mozart - more people working on it.
i bought the mozart for USD 600 and this shi* aint worth that much... even last month it was able to do the simple features like "copy" & "paste".. this is unacceptable!! i regret for the decision i made for a mozart instead of an i4
600USD is expensive from what i understand
anyway - what EXACTLY are your problems with it?
Your sentence : even last month it was able to do the simple features like "copy" & "paste"
makes no sense
did you mean it COULDNT do copy & paste?
it will do as soon as you get the NoDo update - should be any time now.
remember its still a VERY young operating system and it took iOS over a year to get copy&paste functionality too.
The whole thing is evolving - it's very young - and it will only get better over time
if you dont think it's for you then ranting on here isnt going to fix things, sell it and get an iphone if that's what you really want (but i'd recommend against it) or an android system - whatever
tell us exactly what you're problems are and we'll see if anyone knows a workaround - but as i said - it's still a very young system at the moment and there ARE things missing that are coming in the next updates.
mozart wiil get mango in fall.
if anyone knows the exact date when it will get MANGO?
Mango will available for update on 15th sept 2011
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mozart wiil get mango in fall.
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what?........
it won't be ready on 15th of september for sure because manufacturers must sell some new mango devices first then after some time personally think in november will update old wp7s
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Dear Sirs,
I think that the Mozart is a fine device.
Unfortunately, Microsoft has finally arrived with its mobile branch in the
windows world,
where there is the old saying :
"if there is a service pack 2, then you can start to work with the operating system".
So I am thinking of getting a mozart,
and let windows mobile 6.5 run on it,
until summer next year, where I expect WM 7 to be useable.
Are there any people who have done this yet,
or are you all eager to play with Windows Phone 7 and it's Bugs ?
Regards,
Soulchen
You haven't actually used it have you?
Regardless, it's an idiotic idea, if you want WM get a WM phone and upgrade to a next gen WP device next year.
using it
I am currently using WM 6.0 on a HTC device branded by T-Mobile.
"MDA Compact IV".
So I admit that I haven't used 6.5, but I think - as 6.0 is quite fine - that 6.5 sould be better than 6.0.
(if it's not, please tell me)
as Win 7 has no copy and paste, no direct syncing to outlook without the web,
and it's quite locked up,
I think, that somehow 6.5 seems a better idea for me than 7.
Regards,
Soulchen
Hallo @all,
I also would like to use WM 6.5.5 on the Mozart. Is this to be expected?
I had to take the T-Mobile Mozart (16GB) but I have a HD2 and I love this because of the Option to run ANdroid and 6.5.5 .... If this is not realistic I will sell the Mozart otherwise pherhaps the HD2
Thanks in advice
forgotten_soul said:
Dear Sirs,
I think that the Mozart is a fine device.
Unfortunately, Microsoft has finally arrived with its mobile branch in the
windows world,
where there is the old saying :
"if there is a service pack 2, then you can start to work with the operating system".
So I am thinking of getting a mozart,
and let windows mobile 6.5 run on it,
until summer next year, where I expect WM 7 to be useable.
Are there any people who have done this yet,
or are you all eager to play with Windows Phone 7 and it's Bugs ?
Regards,
Soulchen
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In every way, windows phone 7 is better than 6.5, no doubt about it.
And besides that, there is no way to install wm6.5 to the mozart, nor will anyone try to develop it, because there really is no sense in putting an crappy os like wm6.5 when you have Windows Phone 7 that is working great out of the box. And wm6.5 has no multi-touch so aint never gonna work on our SLCD screens.
If you love 6.5 and dont like wp7, whats the point in getting a mozart?
The only reason i can see in getting a mozart is :-
A) you want one.
B) you want to try wp7.
If you have a hd2 and are happy with the fine selection of roms there are then stick with it. If wp7 was out for the hd2 i would have not got the mozart as i think the hd2 is a much nicer phone. I like wp7 and the mozart but would much rather have wp7 on my hd2. wp7 still needs time to grow and the problems and bugs will start to fix so let judge it once some of the problems have been addressed, i mean when was the last time anyone can remember microsoft putting out anything that works straight out the box with no bugs or problems? We all get phones running their os and spend time here chatting rubbish about them, but we all keep flashing roms and waiting for the next big fix or tweak. If you want 6.5 on a mozart your wasting you money, get the hd2 or just get in with the rest of the robots and get an iphone.
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get the hd2 or just get in with the rest of the robots and get an iphone.
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Buy my 8 month old HTC HD2 from me then if you want 6.5.5
Just remember, the Mozart is a Windows Phone 7 only. And to consider downgrading for functionality as simple as cut and paste and tethering, well your missing the point of the new OS totally.
There are stacks of 6.5.5 models still available, as i said.. by mine!
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Buy my 8 month old HTC HD2 from me then if you want 6.5.5
Just remember, the Mozart is a Windows Phone 7 only. And to consider downgrading for functionality as simple as cut and paste and tethering, well your missing the point of the new OS totally.
There are stacks of 6.5.5 models still available, as i said.. by mine!
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has he asked if your hd2 can be downgraded to 6.1, sorry could not resist.
You have to use WP7, it is fantastic, sooo much better than 6.5.
I now have a phone that works and does everything it needs to. It has shown me that a phone is not a computer, and should not be used as one. Using the cloud is so efficient for my small business, I wish I had done it sooner.
Obviously there are some things to be added, but this is to be expected for something new.
Lack of software!!!
I am not arguing about how great WP7 is... It is just great, and working just fine, but I really don't see the point of having a nice device if you can not use it's gps for navigation unless you have a flatrate with bing maps?!?!
I have tons of WM 6 apps laying around (installed on other wm6 device) and I have a very nice phone WP7 but I have to carry both of them with me if I want to navigate...
Mozarts from T-Mobile Germany come with Navigon Select pre-installed (check out the T-Mobile Windows Phone website for details). If it wasn't on your device, you can download it for free!
I bought the device without a contract, to use it with my prepaid.
So, it is not the case...
I could download Navigon only if I were a Telekom user, which I am not, so I will have to wait till the next year... perhaps some navigation software developer will make wp7 navigation (not taking navigon in account, other navigation software suppliers did not announce their will to develop for WP7)
Hi All,
I'm also disappointed from WM7 Mozart. Actually it is a very nice phone ... unless you want to do some work with it. It doesn't have copy+paste (crazy like the first iPhones ), it doesn't sync with Outlook (stupid on-line sync with MicrosoftLive costs a lot of money if you are traveling!), doesn't run the old apps (actually this was one of the biggest Microsoft advantages - the backward compatibility), lack of navigation (I'm missing quite a lot iGo and Garmin) and finally - the lack of tethering. The latest is killing me (I can live with the others but that one...) as I'm using the phone to access Internet and do my job when I have an emergency. Now I have to choose - either phone or GSM modem to access Internet. This is ridiculous.
So I'm waiting either Microsoft to have the tethering back or to have WM6.5 on Mozart. Or else - bye-bye WM7! I don't have so much money to spend just for a nice looking device which actually does ... nothing
BR
prr said:
Hi All,
I'm also disappointed from WM7 Mozart. Actually it is a very nice phone ... unless you want to do some work with it. It doesn't have copy+paste (crazy like the first iPhones ), it doesn't sync with Outlook (stupid on-line sync with MicrosoftLive costs a lot of money if you are traveling!), doesn't run the old apps (actually this was one of the biggest Microsoft advantages - the backward compatibility), lack of navigation (I'm missing quite a lot iGo and Garmin) and finally - the lack of tethering. The latest is killing me (I can live with the others but that one...) as I'm using the phone to access Internet and do my job when I have an emergency. Now I have to choose - either phone or GSM modem to access Internet. This is ridiculous.
So I'm waiting either Microsoft to have the tethering back or to have WM6.5 on Mozart. Or else - bye-bye WM7! I don't have so much money to spend just for a nice looking device which actually does ... nothing
BR
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For the love of God THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS WM7!!! It is WINDOWS PHONE 7, and is a totally different operating system.
Wm6 wm6.5 wp7
As i recently got a Mozart, i have been watching this post with interest. I can only agree the WM6 WM6.5 are sooooo different from W-PHONE 7. To down grade a Mozart to WM6.5 may work, but it would need someone with the skills and a good reason to do it.
I have used WM6 & WM6.5 on my HTC Rhodium. They both are different in layout/feel/working method, but run similar Apps. so far NONE of these run on WP7, as its a different OS.
My suggestion is keep the Mozart on WP7, and good Apps WILL follow. If you want to run WM6 or 6.5 Apps, get yourself a nice HTC Rhodium. You should get a good one on e bay or similar.
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I bought the device without a contract, to use it with my prepaid.
So, it is not the case...
I could download Navigon only if I were a Telekom user, which I am not, so I will have to wait till the next year... perhaps some navigation software developer will make wp7 navigation (not taking navigon in account, other navigation software suppliers did not announce their will to develop for WP7)
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Well, old post, but:
You can get a T-Mo Prepaid-Sim or some of your friends/family have a T-Mo SIM,
put it in and downloading Navigon should work. After that put your usual SIM in and that's it.
I've read somewhere that this should work.
Pls can someone explain to me why 6.5 cannot be loaded on a mozart?
I got a mozart and would love 6.5 on it,7 SUCKS!my gps doesn`t work(my country not supported)Zune doesnt work(my country not supported)Cloud = not working(my country again)7 is as usefull as symbian on a nokia 3310 in south africa.
Please can someone help me to get 6.5 on my mozart.Or at least point me in the right direction.
Wp7 jailed users ... Because you can not install or create your applications without pass thru Market Place MS approval. I bought a HTC Mozart to try WP7, Its a great OS but if you can not install your developed Aplication. Your freedom is lost... Why M$ do not allow your choice ? The better thing about microsoft was the freedom, but now... When available I will downgrade to wm6.5 and wait wp7 becomes better.
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Wp7 jailed users ... Because you can not install or create your applications without pass thru Market Place MS approval. I bought a HTC Mozart to try WP7, Its a great OS but if you can not install your developed Aplication. Your freedom is lost... Why M$ do not allow your choice ? The better thing about microsoft was the freedom, but now... When available I will downgrade to wm6.5 and wait wp7 becomes better.
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I would be idiot if i have this idea in even in my dream. if one wants window 6.5 then why to buy mozart its simply a not respecting the money and its value and beauty of innovation /technology. I believe people who takes the time to even read and reply this thread is like a wasting of our time.
The Question still stands: IS IT POSSIBLE to load 6.5 on a mozart?what is needed to do it?
Wow, just wait for genius chef if they can make this device capable of running android. Not sure how can we invite them to start working on this.
Can we all make a combined request to great chefs of Android as they made it possible for HD2 so nothing is impossible for them.
I have to ask: why would we possibly want Android when we have WP7? Surely we would all have bought Nexus S' if we wanted Android :S
Wrong answer.
This is the "Because we can" argument. It's a waste of time. I've been following Android on the HTC diamond and It's not practical purely down to the power management. It just sucks the battery down to nothing after 20 minutes.
djfuego said:
This is the "Because we can" argument. It's a waste of time. I've been following Android on the HTC diamond and It's not practical purely down to the power management. It just sucks the battery down to nothing after 20 minutes.
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Since this phone uses android like hardware that could maybe not be the thing on the mozart, but even so.
I totally agree that it is a waste of time
I want to see Android!! I was not able to purchase the HTC Desire HD... this was the best i could get. So why not have the option to play around....
.....*Sigh*
even if you do get android on the Mozart. Do you honestly think Microsoft will let you use the live functions on it after you have. It won't surprise me if you get an xbox live ban if you piss around with this generation of phones.
I want a phone that can duel boot WP7 and Androd.
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even if you do get android on the Mozart. Do you honestly think Microsoft will let you use the live functions on it after you have. It won't surprise me if you get an xbox live ban if you piss around with this generation of phones.
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i don't really care about what M$ will limit me on... i don't use xbox live anyway... just want android.
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i don't really care about what M$ will limit me on... i don't use xbox live anyway... just want android.
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Then why the hell did you buy a WP7 phone?! And just so that you know, "M$" went out of fashion like 10 years ago, and just makes you seem like a bit of a stuck up idiot.
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... just want android.
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...well, I guess this is reason enough to go buying a WP7 phone and trolling in a forum on how great it would be to have Android on the WP7.
Just a thought: it might seem stupid to you and the answer might even be obvious to everyone but me, but why didn't you buy an Android phone to start with?
- You'd then have an Android device right now
- Would not lose your warranty when you use Android (as you most likely will on WP7 as it will require unlocking or flashing)
- Would not be limited by Microsoft in any way
So maybe I'm missing some point here, but feel free to enlighten me
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...well, I guess this is reason enough to go buying a WP7 phone and trolling in a forum on how great it would be to have Android on the WP7.
Just a thought: it might seem stupid to you and the answer might even be obvious to everyone but me, but why didn't you buy an Android phone to start with?
- You'd then have an Android device right now
- Would not lose your warranty when you use Android (as you most likely will on WP7 as it will require unlocking or flashing)
- Would not be limited by Microsoft in any way
So maybe I'm missing some point here, but feel free to enlighten me
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Well, I have no doubt on your opinion, in fact most of the people would have same opinion, Don't you think its a very simple thing that one can't miss, if we want android then go and buy android,
but according to me there are two ways to live life, one simplest way and second to go beyond limit and do something different.
if we buy android then there is near to impossible to enjoy windows 7 but if we have wp7 then there is possibility to enjoy android and that's in bl** single device wow. no need to have two sim two phone to enjoy life.
After all that's my desire that One day Chef will come and listen to us.
djfuego said:
even if you do get android on the Mozart. Do you honestly think Microsoft will let you use the live functions on it after you have. It won't surprise me if you get an xbox live ban if you piss around with this generation of phones.
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I think he means like MAGLDR on Mozart = DUAL BOOT Android and WP7. Or quadruple boot WM6, WM7, Ubuntu, Android as I am doing here on my HD2 which works on LIVE and Marketplace ACTIVE as a HD7.
Android on mozart would be interesting. Reasonably easy to do once bit more work with ansar's work and his spl upgrade/hack maybe (global branding removal) + htc rom image editor etc and debug. It will happen.
Older phones as mentioned in this thread+droid=sux. HD2+Android (espeially Magldr+Darkstone SUPER-NAND RAM-build on Nand=AMAZING).
But yes- it is EASY to get around LIVE activation: read HD2 threads: and no Magldr 1.12 loads a simulacrum SPL for WP7 from nand yaffs which straps WP7 partitions so there is no real way that Microsoft can lock your phone down. Its LIVE!
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I think he means like MAGLDR on Mozart = DUAL BOOT Android and WP7. Or quadruple boot WM6, WM7, Ubuntu, Android as I am doing here on my HD2 which works on LIVE and Marketplace ACTIVE as a HD7.
Android on mozart would be interesting. Reasonably easy to do once bit more work with ansar's work and his spl upgrade/hack maybe (global branding removal) + htc rom image editor etc and debug. It will happen.
Older phones as mentioned in this thread+droid=sux. HD2+Android (espeially Magldr+Darkstone SUPER-NAND RAM-build on Nand=AMAZING).
But yes- it is EASY to get around LIVE activation: read HD2 threads: and no Magldr 1.12 loads a simulacrum SPL for WP7 from nand yaffs which straps WP7 partitions so there is no real way that Microsoft can lock your phone down. Its LIVE!
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you are wrong..... Microsoft will know which phone been modified from HD2 by using hardware id..... muahahaha.... you are using illegal OS....
Afaik Mozart is the only handset with a 1ghz+ CPU and a Xenon flash that is "potentially" capable of running android, that fact alone makes it worth modding on imo. Would be fun to see if someone got it working, but right now I'm hoping the motoroi 2 will come out soon =)
Edit: And about legality - many countries (like norway) have laws that forbid EULAs that restrict using other software on your hardware, effectively nullifying that concern
im looking for experiment like this, run android on mozart or any wp7 phone.
Would be great, but i think there isn't a big community for Mozart 7, and special for Android on Mozart
can someone explain me how easy would it be done if this tool from DFT is now out?
HSPL / RSPL for HTC WP7 First Generation
can someone explain me how easy would it be done if this tool from DFT is now out?
HSPL / RSPL for HTC WP7 First Generation
djfuego said:
even if you do get android on the Mozart. Do you honestly think Microsoft will let you use the live functions on it after you have. It won't surprise me if you get an xbox live ban if you piss around with this generation of phones.
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your live id is stored in the phones registry
If you are running androind there is no access to that
How could microsoft ban you, magic?
Running androind i would have thought it's pretty clear you wont have access to live functions
but aside from that.
Running custom roms are 'fun' and it's why these forums exist
Hi guys
Please help is there a droid os to load on my Mozart ?
I feel wm7 is not user friendly
I am new to windows and feel it is less superior ,therefore I'd like to get a new os
Please assist
Jesley69
You have to buy the phone with the OS you want... There is no Android available to HTC Mozart and i don't believe it will be available soon or ever
I dont understand people. Buy the HTC Desire if you want Android. Its basically the same phone.
I actually traded my Desire HD for my new Mozart and feel it's more superior as a phone. For all my other Android needs, I do that on my tablet, where it should be.
Hi
I didn't buy this phone got on contract, my friends have the HD and their apps are excellent.
1.Where can i find?buy this new os?
2. what do you suggest as an os for it?
Regards
jesley69
t's just you not knowing how to use the phone / which apps to buy. If you asked, we might help you, however noone is gonna help you screwing the phone with Android.
You cannot change the OS on the phone. The one present is the most suited anyway
the apps are as follows that i would like to install
whatsapp _what do you suggest i do
mxit
the phone says for every thing id like to download
cannot download this file
WP does not support.jad files
can i perhaps install java?
You cannot install java/jar/jad (they're the same thing) on WP7. You can only install apps from the Marketplace or if you have unlocked phone you can deploy apps from your PC. (xap files)
just passing by. i wouldnt swap my mozart for an iphone or an samsung galaxy s2 fyi. i dont like lag. i like smooth and buttery. i kid not.
but no. you cant load android on it. get used to it and youll love it. especially mango
cheers.
@jesly69, android is coming very soon, i would think in the following 2 months
check this threads
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16189671
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=832545
and yes, android is more mature and better, it will take at least 2 major updates after mango, for wp7 to come close to android
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You cannot install java/jar/jad (they're the same thing) on WP7. You can only install apps from the Marketplace or if you have unlocked phone you can deploy apps from your PC. (xap files)
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Sorry for being ignorant /un informed can you suggest how do i unlock this phone
please suggest
regards
Hi.
This is my first post on xda, and I am hoping to learn a lot whilst I am here.
I am not expecting any help here, but there has been small hype about getting android onto this phone. And I understand that you may be critical about noobs like me expecting an easy fix from you.
I appreciate that the idea makes no sense from many perspectives, this is mine.
I purchased the windows 7 phone 3 months ago, I was a complete idiot and fell for the sales pitch, the salesman promised me the earth, he said I would be able to WiFi Tether on the next update, he told me it would be better then the android evo 4 that I wanted.
As you are probably aware, I am a complete fool. I have however spent many hours on the phone with a certain mobile phone outlett, and my provider, neither will help. And I am stuck with the phone till 2013.
The phone's buyback price has gone down to 1/3rd what it was on the day I bought the phone.
I have now made it my mission to get this phone to run android. I feel so strongly I may even remove the windows logo from the bottom of my touch-screen.
I have already researched some, and expect days more research before I'll be able to do, whatever it is I need to do.
I am and will be keeping a log, of all my research, and hopefully can use what I learn to help people out later on.
So....
Any comments, or questions or support?
CleverNoob
I have picked up a few things. And therefore want to clarify,
I don't want to dual boot the 2 OS's, I want to REMOVE windows 7 and replace it with Android.
From what I gather this means I need to develop an android ROM to work with the mozart, and then Flash it to the phone...?
So my logical mind tells me to look for the android ROM that works on the most similar spec phone.
I am however aware that the firmware or something is different in the mozart, from the HD7 and does not allow for certain android commands to work, therefore the ROM (gingerbread?) used on the HD7 will not be remotely compatible with the HD7?
It seems that there may be a few options for the actual flashing of the ROM already available... So I am going to concentrate on learning more about ROM development now.
If anyone wants to correct me, point me in the right direction, or hurl abuse at me... feel free to do so
I do not know all that much about ROM development.
What about drivers though? Sure it is fine for the chipset as there are Android devices with the same chipset (CPU and GPU)... Although the WiFi, bluetooth, radio etc. I guess it's built into the SoC?
Drivers for the screen, capacitive buttons, camera etc?
I think if you look around, you should be able to find a phone similar to htc mozart and the name which comes to my mind is Nexus one and htc desire...
Although it depends on you that you extract drivers from the OS of both of those android based phones then extract drivers from your mozart and compare if they have same chipset....
I really wonder if it's possible to do all this virtually instead of physically installing OSes on phones for development purposes.
You didnt give up did ya mate!
All of the Australia Telstra Community who got Conned into buying the Mozart over an iPhone due to This Service Provider not having a Contract with Apple are 'root'ing for your Success
just checking if i got it right...
you want android in the mozart just to enable wifi tethering.
well, FYI, its been done and done bro, just unlock your device and install any of the excellent custom ROMs here. my notebook is tethered to my mozart right now.
but if you want to further explore the capabilities of the hardware, no worries- many good samaritans are already doing that. explore the development forums here and thy shall learn!
take care!
Tethering is working now, even with Telstra and no unlocking (7720).
This is my first post too! I was about to post something like yours. I have an HTC Mozart too and I want to install an Android ROM on it though my reasons are different.
As a software developer I have no experience about ROM development but I'm very interested.
So what did you do until now? Any success?
Hello there
I'm an Android user, and I like switching between many ROMs, manipulating a bit (even if I don't know much).
But a friend of mine has a HTC Titan, and I was wondering what could we do about those phones. I mean, can we change to custom ROMs ? Are there as many as there is on droids, is it as easy (or kind of) as Androids, or is it dangerous, are there any risks, etc. What are the possibilities ?
Thank you in advance for your answer
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Hello there
I'm an Android user, and I like switching between many ROMs, manipulating a bit (even if I don't know much).
But a friend of mine has a HTC Titan, and I was wondering what could we do about those phones. I mean, can we change to custom ROMs ? Are there as many as there is on droids, is it as easy (or kind of) as Androids, or is it dangerous, are there any risks, etc. What are the possibilities ?
Thank you in advance for your answer
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The simple answer here is...No! There are three variants of the Titan; the first one was a coon's age ago and the last two might as well be from different planets. The "Eternity" variant is the one you want; the "Radiance" variant is a lesson in futility as are all future Windows Phones. In an earlier life the Windows Mobile 6.x platform could be customized in every way Android is today. Windows Phone 7 comes along and the braintrust at every carrier and Microsoft decided to make life hard for us who enjoy customizing our phones and you'd think common sense would win the day...oh no...despite a 3.1% marketshare and royally pissing off every WP7 phone owner along the way they continue to lock these phones down and as more than a few Lumia 920 (WP8) owners will tell you the latest update now won't allow them to edit their mobile data speed and most are now stuck on LTE and what do we know about LTE boys and girls....one, not everybody has it; two, a lot of folks don't have it; and three, you can't edit the device to HSPA+, 3G or 2G as we Eternity variant Titans can. To answer your question head on - The Titan II cannot be tinkered with and no device since can on WP7 or WP8 platforms. Prior to Titan II...you bet; the HTC HD2 is the device you want for tinkering on any platform known to man; one look at its XDA main page will tell you its your device of choice for customized flashing of any ROM on any platform and it is extremely doubtful there will be another device like it ever made again, but one can wish...hopelessly. All that said, I love my Titan I, the Eternity. There are multiple level of locks...there's Interop, Developer and HSPL and you need all of them to play. It is not for the faint of heart, this is not Android....I can tell you I successfully HSPL my phones but I can also tell you I was scared to death I bricked them too, but there is a world of difference between a WP phone you can install your own apps like the Windows Mobile days or be so locked down there's no joy in any of it. Today, I'm on the fence as to whether to remain with Windows Phone despite what appears they finally got right with WP8 but I'm sick of this attitude that our devices have to be locked down that you're left to their whims not your own. One look at the WP pages will tell you development is little compared to Android. I ordered my wife's HTC One from HTC for $649.99, the 64GB Developer Edition and the next thing I did was install Launcher 8. Yes, under the hood it's different but it made for easy navigation of apps. I expect someone on Android is going to create a "live" tile for a WP8 skin of Android and likely I'm gone from WP. I'm not aware there is any further development going on over at WP7.8; there is some rumor that across the pond there is to be a WP7.9 release but as to what that is likely to entail; I don't know. Rumor is begging for a better bluetooth interface which is sorely missed even on WP8...what were they thinking? If you use Skype, it doesn't run in background on WP7.x. It's a mix bag...I love the platform, I'm sick of how the powers that be have really ruined it for us who enjoy it for what it is...different and I'm not kidding when I say this, it runs as smooth as butter; I simply do not understand the brain trust behind it and why they made it so damn hard for those of us who have been loyal to them for years.
Well said, even a rooted titan with a custom rom is not in the same league as a HD2 running WM.... its a real same those days have gone!
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rowlie50 said:
Well said, even a rooted titan with a custom rom is not in the same league as a HD2 running WM.... its a real same those days have gone!
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Or an HD2 running WP7.8 or as I am currently the NexusHD which I'm about to update to NativeSD with his most recent release. I am so fet up with all the obstacles that Windows Phone owners have had to put up with and even if you are HSPL and Developer and Interop Unlocked there are still obstacles and Android there is none and I simply don't understand the logic of what Microsoft and carriers are trying to accomplish; you'd think they'd welcome what contributors at XDA have done and maybe flashing my Titan today is a good example trying to setup Straight Talk with MMS, make Bing Map and Windows Phone Marketplace play nice and nope, no can do! Android? No problem. Throw my HD2 into the mix and despite only having EDGE; it all works but the bottom line is, you shouldn't have to pay for what you benefit from using W-Fi not mobile data.
Thank you guys for your answers. So I suppose there is no advantage of customisation with Windows Phones ^^
Take a look in the Titan ROM development, i,m running Dynamics 2.0 by ultrashot.... best ROM in my opinion. I edited the registry so it thinks its a Nokia, this way I get all the nokia apps. Read the thread to get a good idea of what a custom ROM gives you. Rumour has it that version 2.2 coming soon so keep an eye out. Rooting the Titan really is risky so read up on it before you take the plunge!
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Thank you ! I'll check that