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I posted this in a thread but haven't gotten any response:
I was thinking about starting a Groubal petition about AT&T and how they are capping the HUSPA speeds on the Atrix 4g and maybe the Inspire?
Maybe they will pay some kind of attention to the issue ..anyone?
"I am one of many people who got excited about the new Motorola Atrix 4G phone when AT&T advertised that they will be carrying it. The Atrix 4G is a powerful phone and has a lot of great features. Unfortunately, since owning this phone I have been experiencing very slow data speeds and have been losing the Internet connection especially in times when I really needed to find directions or look up information. I have contacted AT&T and was told that everything is fine and that the network in my area is working the way it is supposed to.
This is what I asked AT&T: Why would the Motorola Atrix 4G, advertised as the most powerful phone in the market, register poorer data speeds than other less powerful phones? Why would AT&T advertise as being a 4G phone while it doesn't perform as good as a 3G phone?
I am using Groubal to try to get AT&T and Motorola’s attention about this matter because I couldn't find any other way to do so....There are so many unhappy paying customers out there and we want to be heard and our phones to work."
Good idea ill sign
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redstar299 said:
Good idea ill sign
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http://www.groubal.com/att-misleading-their-customers-about-4g/
zizo79 said:
http://www.groubal.com/att-misleading-their-customers-about-4g/
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Done. +10 char
Gr8Danes said:
Done. +10 char
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Cool got 3 people already...
im not going to sign as i am very satisfied with my data speeds. (3000 down and 300 up)
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Done. +10 char
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me as well. 1 char?
signed and tweeted it
Signed
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It would be better to do a full class action law suite against both Moto and ATT on this issue... you would need 10% of the phone owners to actually sign and get involved as far as this.
It would be the only way to truely get either one of their attentions.
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im not going to sign as i am very satisfied with my data speeds. (3000 down and 300 up)
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300 up ... that's the first issue. The iPhone gets 3000down / 1500up / 130ms ping consistently. My Atrix (two feet away) gets 700down / 300up / 450+ms ping consistently. Every once and a while in it will top 2800down, but upload and ping still suffer.
I will sign and post to help out the Atrix community. I can't complain too much, Work pays for the phone and wanted me to get an iPhone like everyone else (lame).
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Signed.
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wade7919 said:
It would be better to do a full class action law suite against both Moto and ATT on this issue... you would need 10% of the phone owners to actually sign and get involved as far as this.
It would be the only way to truely get either one of their attentions.
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I was a part of a groubal petition against Frys who canceled orders for a TV they advertised about and everyone who ordered got a their TV. News channels got involved: http://www.groubal.com/frys-electronics-canceled-tv-orders-offer-no-compensation/
signed it... +10
How about we just ban at&t and motorola all together? Thatd solve everything.
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prohibit said:
How about we just ban at&t and motorola all together? Thatd solve everything.
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yeah okay ...lol I just want my phone to work properly that is all !
I signed it...
I just tipped BGR and Engadget..let's see what happens
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yeah okay ...lol I just want my phone to work properly that is all !
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Im just saying... They both suck.
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Signed brah
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I hate leaving the evo behind but can't deal with the horrible service in my area what do u guys suggest besides cspire and other smaller carriers. Pretty much out of at&t T-Mobile or verizon .
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samuelwatts said:
I hate leaving the evo behind but can't deal with the horrible service in my area what do u guys suggest besides cspire and other smaller carriers. Pretty much out of at&t T-Mobile or verizon .
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Im in the process of leaving sprint too, set the 10005 prl and roam control and torrenting lol. Will be terminated soon. Im going to Verizon though or Tmobile. Why dont you just go with tmobile or att and buy a phone and go prepaid
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I hate leaving the evo behind but can't deal with the horrible service in my area what do u guys suggest besides cspire and other smaller carriers. Pretty much out of at&t T-Mobile or verizon .
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I would suggest buying a GSM Evo 3D and getting a GSM carrier like T-Mobile, AT&T, or Simple Mobile. Good thing all of the main networks here in Russia are GSM, I don't like the CDMA system.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HTC-EVO-3D-...0642236437?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item2567060015
I used someone else's address told them I moved and its a non coverage area so they waived both etf fees !
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samuelwatts said:
I used someone else's address told them I moved and its a non coverage area so they waived both etf fees !
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Wait, ARE YOU SERIOUS?
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You should give Cingular a shot
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Wait, ARE YOU SERIOUS?
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yeah... serious as **** cancer and it worked no ?'s ask lol
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Mastajeff said:
Im in the process of leaving sprint too, set the 10005 prl and roam control and torrenting lol. Will be terminated soon. Im going to Verizon though or Tmobile. Why dont you just go with tmobile or att and buy a phone and go prepaid
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If they terminate u do u keep your number or is it gone
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yeah... serious as **** cancer and it worked no ?'s ask lol
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you have to provide proof such as a water bill drivers license with new address or something of that nature
No I didn't provide any proof like water bills or anything I just told them I moved over the phone and yes I was able to keep both of my phone numbers
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No I didn't provide any proof like water bills or anything I just told them I moved over the phone and yes I was able to keep both of my phone numbers
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What about the phones? Is the ESN still clean or do you have to turn them in?
well they must have changed procedure cause i tried to do this and they asked for proof
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well they must have changed procedure cause i tried to do this and they asked for proof
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It depends on the agent you get; whenever I do any shananigans I usually call the spanish line since they're based in Mexico, have full power over the acct, and are less likely to question your shiz.
And, yeah, the ESN will be clean if you do such a procedure.
Yeah maybe I got lucky who knows !
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Yeah maybe I got lucky who knows !
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How's the Galaxy Nexus treating you, btw? I'm in the process of perhaps leaving Sprint and it's my first choice but I've heard lots of issues are afoot w/ the Verizon version.
Your thoughts?
Has anybody else seen this?
http://www.zagg.com/community/blog/5g-speeds-already-around-the-corner/
Sounds possible but hard to believe that At&t would take advantage of such a thing...being still on Faux 4G for 90% of the country still....
Anyways anybody have any thought on these "5G" speculations?
..interesting indeed. I'm still waiting for 4G
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Awesome, thanks for the link!
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Well not going to be 5g .....
But at&t bought 700mh spectrum. From Qualcom
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We will see this in use in about 5-10 years. After they triple our price.
You guys do realize that real 4g is 100mb/s right?
Has 5g even been defined?
SG Pillar said:
You guys do realize that real 4g is 100mb/s right?
Has 5g even been defined?
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Let's back up and ask an even more important question.. Has "4G" even been standardized?
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You guys do realize that real 4g is 100mb/s right?
Has 5g even been defined?
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No that's not true anymore, they changed their definition a while ago
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Nick281051 said:
No that's not true anymore, they changed their definition a while ago
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Wow, really?
They'll do anything to market even the slightest incremental advances, won't they...
The carriers need to figure out capacity/backhaul issues before 4g even really makes sense. I haven't found many applications which require LTE speeds that won't quickly hit the 2/4 gig limit.
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Wow, really?
They'll do anything to market even the slightest incremental advances, won't they...
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They pretty much bent over for the carriers. Wimax, lte and even hspa+, are considered 4G by the ITU now
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definitely need 5G so we can hit our monthly cap in a few hours! wewt
its taking this long to roll out 4g ... I'm not going to hold my breath on 5G especially since they still need to standardize it first.
Carriers will slap on the 4G, 5G, 6G, ect... names on their network to bring in more/other customers because the general population dosent know any better, they just see a bigger number. Just because they say its 4G or 5G dosent mean it really is. On paper maybe, but in real world conditions... not at all.
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Carriers will slap on the 4G, 5G, 6G, ect... names on their network to bring in more/other customers because the general population dosent know any better, they just see a bigger number. Just because they say its 4G or 5G dosent mean it really is. On paper maybe, but in real world conditions... not at all.
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thats exactly what they'll do.
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They pretty much bent over for the carriers. Wimax, lte and even hspa+, are considered 4G by the ITU now
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That's totally F-ed up!!!
That was a very interesting read... thanks for sharing. Hope half of it comes true.
interesting read, thanks.
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definitely need 5G so we can hit our monthly cap in a few hours! wewt
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Lol
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Lol thanks for the input guys...looks like most of you feel the same way I do
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Hi. Is there any way to boost the 3g speed of simple mobile. My phone is not on their approved phones but I just tried copying the apn settings of another sgs2 but not I777. Thanks in advance
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The i777 doesn't have the bands for Simple Mobile's 3g. I'm pretty sure you'll just be stuck with EDGE.
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Hi. Is there any way to boost the 3g speed of simple mobile. My phone is not on their approved phones but I just tried copying the apn settings of another sgs2 but not I777. Thanks in advance
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Our phone should be supported. I mean they have the international version ours should work on there faux 4g.
Are they a T-Mobile reseller or AT&T reseller? If TMo, no 3G for you.
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Entropy512 said:
Are they a T-Mobile reseller or AT&T reseller? If TMo, no 3G for you.
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Yup, its TMo
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chibixzero said:
Our phone should be supported. I mean they have the international version ours should work on there faux 4g.
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WCDMA 850 / 1900 / 2100.. this is the spec for the radiio part supoporting your 3g/4g magic.. that 1900 is no good cause tombile is 1700... 100% non-compatible unless you get a world phone...
Mine is the AT&T one. Yeah, simple mobile said if it's not supported then it will only work with EDGE. I wish there's another way of 'tricking' the network that you have the band that they support.
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jlalisan82 said:
Mine is the AT&T one. Yeah, simple mobile said if it's not supported then it will only work with EDGE. I wish there's another way of 'tricking' the network that you have the band that they support.
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So you think you should be able to trick the network into thinking you have hardware that you don't? For what purpose? I mean you still wouldn't have the physical hardware required.
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That's why i'm asking if there's a way to trick the network. I mean like changing the baseband or changing roms to a hellraised rom from a i-9100 one.
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That's why i'm asking if there's a way to trick the network. I mean like changing the baseband or changing roms to a hellraised rom from a i-9100 one.
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LOL.
dude, you are trying to figure out a way to trick the network into seeing something THE PHONE DOESNT HAVE, which is HARDWARE to support the frequencies...
so lets throw some logic in this shall we?
EVEN if you could trick the network into thinking you had the hardware, your HARDWARE wouldnt be able to utilize the network speeds......so what would the purpose be?
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That's why i'm asking if there's a way to trick the network. I mean like changing the baseband or changing roms to a hellraised rom from a i-9100 one.
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That's like putting on a costume that gives you four arms. The extra arms might appear but they don't do anything
jlalisan82 said:
Mine is the AT&T one. Yeah, simple mobile said if it's not supported then it will only work with EDGE. I wish there's another way of 'tricking' the network that you have the band that they support.
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What? Simple Mobile is a T Mobile virtual network operator reseller. They are in no way affiliated with AT&T or do they support AT&T frequencies. No wonder you're trying to "trick" the network into thinking its a different phone.
Please close this stupid-ass thread before it infects other members.
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Please close this stupid-ass thread before it infects other members.
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I'm just asking a question if it's possible to get 3G speeds. I'm new to the forums and still learning the aspects of my phone and the network. Too harsh..but thanks anyways.
It wasn't just a question, it was a seriously stupid question. Like asking if there's a pair of glasses you can wear that will make a Prius look like a Corvette. Sorry, but it just isn't possible. You can't spoof the network into thinking your phone has hardware it doesn't. Are you getting that yet?
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Please close this stupid-ass thread before it infects other members.
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Hmm, I thought I did. I guess it didnt fully engage. Oh well, its closed now.
So I'm on the phone talking to this sprint rep cause I was having terrible data with perfect signal strength, he said to try and turn on 1.9Ghz 3g and that was all he would say, any more and it would be like rooting the phone and that got me curious as hell, what really are our phone's capability??? And anyone found this setting yet? He said it was somewhere by debugging but I can't find it...
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1900 is the band Sprint CDMA is on. He was trying to tell you to toggle the radio on/off.
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I thanked you both as that was a funny and the right answer what a weird way for a rep to put it
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Lol, guess I shoulda known that Still I wonder what else he was talking about that he couldn't tell me, he was a tech by the way... Weird...
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Lol, guess I shoulda known that Still I wonder what else he was talking about that he couldn't tell me, he was a tech by the way... Weird...
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If you wonder what those service techs are thinking it's just gonna cause headaches. For the record I'm a CDMA switch tech and half my co–workers are as much in La La land as the service reps/techs.
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If you wonder what those service techs are thinking it's just gonna cause headaches. For the record I'm a CDMA switch tech and half my co–workers are as much in La La land as the service reps/techs.
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Being a it/radio tech from the navy I resent that comment those that work with things of that nature are not in lala land .......well maybe we are a little bit... Lol
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ckoadiyn said:
Being a it/radio tech from the navy I resent that comment those that work with things of that nature are not in lala land .......well maybe we are a little bit... Lol
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Telecom has so many Vets it's amazing. My boss is a squid......
HOOOOAAAAH!
jnip said:
Telecom has so many Vets it's amazing. My boss is a squid......
HOOOOAAAAH!
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Hmm maybe I should look in to them as I want a diff job....got a link for their site?
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Ericsson
https://tas-ericsson.taleo.net/careersection/2/jobsearch.ftl?jobfield1=6240360194
If you're serious shoot me a PM.
Lol, I'm a vet as well just not a squid... Also a tech so It's really embarrassing not knowing the freq, lol, I'm more worried about hardware I guess and l have my blonde moments... Do they have any branches here in Iowa? I'd be interested as well, even entry level...
Hooaah as well, 173rd/101st...
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Toggle radio on/off? How do I do this
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thesabri said:
Toggle radio on/off? How do I do this
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Airplane mode...
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I remebered an old trick from when the evo first came out where it was for some strange reason running in a gsm/cdma hybrid mode, or so the diag screen says, and if you change it to cdma only the data speeds were improved. I'm no network engineer so i'm not sure how that works, but for our phones if you click on mobile network itself in settings, the network config menu shows the radio mode as LTE/CDMA as default. I was having horrible speeds, maybe topped out at 200kbps on multiple tests, switched it to CDMA only, and was getting the same speeds as my OG evo, still a paltry 600-800kbps, but that is at my home where the 3g speeds have always been like this. Give that a try, and note that the setting doesn't stick if you reboot.