Hello all,
This was a full week of work to make functional ( this setup is considered for ADVANCED users only )
What this is about is to use a stock atrix that comes standard with a Citrix receiver, what does the receiver do is that it is an interface to the Xendesktop virtual desktop deployment and desktop delivery to any device or pc, mac, Linux smartphone except android for now (in this mode the atrix in webtop is considered linux).
Main ingredients for this cooking sesson :
==> One powerful PC with at least 6GB ram and dual core processor and really fast hard drives.
==> LOTS of patience and googling
Software needed :
-Windows 2008 server with service pack 2 at the least
-Xendesktop 5 express ISO from www.citrix.com
-Your flavor of a Hyper Visor : Vmware ESXi 4 / Xenserver / Microsoft Hyper-V
-Your flavor of OS you would like to use on your Atrix : Win XP / Vista / 7
Outline of install steps ( I am not going to go to detail here as Google is your friend )
1- Install a flavor of hyper-visor on your pc
2- Install the windows 2008 server VM on the hyper-visor
3- Install Xendesktop on the windows 2008 server ( do not use quick deploy )
4- Add active directory role to your windows 2008 server ( make sure you have Dydns domain that points to your router which is going to be your domain name for the AD )
5- Install a flavor of your favorite Desktop OS on the hyper-visor
6- Install adobe air, flash, acrobat reader and all your favorite apps you need on the run on your flavor of desktop OS.
7- Add the desktop OS to the domain you created in AD
8- Log in as administrator on the desktop OS and making sure you are logged in thru the domain THEN install Xendesktop desktop agent and configure it (do not use quick deploy).
9- Configure your router OR install a VPN server on the Hyper-visor OR install Citrix access gateway on the hyper-visor and configure it with Xendesktop (BIG monstrous headache)
By now you should be ready to jump of the roof, well you should be able to check that :
1- the desktop OS is ready under xendesktop console
2- you did make a catalog in xendesktop and added the machine and user to that catalog and all is good as you have followed the docs for xendesktop
3- you are seeing the web site of your xendesktop server locally
4- you are able to launch windows on your atrix 4G locally and remotely via which ever method you used to tunnel in to your local network.
I know there is alot of details are out, so fire up your questions and i will try my best to answer them
dude you dont know how long i've been trying to get this running.
This is by far the best quick guide out there.
If you could provide some further details as to how do we bypass certain limitations and possibly explain what drawbacks we face by having this run on our pc full time.
This is the BARE minimum as i tricked xendesktop to be running on a domain controller instead of having a DC by itself and another 08 server for the xendesktop which would mean you would need a bigger cpu or two computers like i did as i don't have much horse power.
There is no limitations the only limitation is that xendesktop express is free for 10 users licenses, you MUST keep the PC humming 24/7 for it to be available to you anywhere you go whether you are on your Atrix 4G or on another pc or mac or linux box, i can say this is the true mobile desktop, it looks very very nice on my laptop dock for the atrix, no need to hack into linux for now till sogarth gets it squared away, but in general i had fun doing this project, i will re do it with the quick deploy on my recently acquired dell poweredge server with hot scsi drives
tell me where did you fail or stop at and what did you try ???
OH by the way the pc you use for this you forget you had it cuz after you are done cooking you leave it aside and dont run anyrhing else on it !! LOL
molotof said:
This is the BARE minimum as i tricked xendesktop to be running on a domain controller instead of having a DC by itself and another 08 server for the xendesktop which would mean you would need a bigger cpu or two computers like i did as i don't have much horse power.
There is no limitations the only limitation is that xendesktop express is free for 10 users licenses, you MUST keep the PC humming 24/7 for it to be available to you anywhere you go whether you are on your Atrix 4G or on another pc or mac or linux box, i can say this is the true mobile desktop, it looks very very nice on my laptop dock for the atrix, no need to hack into linux for now till sogarth gets it squared away, but in general i had fun doing this project, i will re do it with the quick deploy on my recently acquired dell poweredge server with hot scsi drives
tell me where did you fail or stop at and what did you try ???
OH by the way the pc you use for this you forget you had it cuz after you are done cooking you leave it aside and dont run anyrhing else on it !! LOL
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Thanks for letting me know and updating your OP
I guess I need another PC as a server :X I need to figure that part out.
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Hey XDA -
So this will be my first upgrade from using Sprint's HTC TP2 for the past year - it was a great phone and will continue to use it as a wifi router thanks to the nice ROM makers over at PPCgeeks. I am going to miss the stylus
Now my questions :
1. I've never used an android OS - is there a recommended "finger-friendly" Remote Desktop Application that will allow me to access my home pc laptop (windows xp pro)? - I am trying to launch a review course software from my mobile phone that requires Java Runtime Environment for Windows (which is installed on my laptop).
I'm a medical student trying to use my paid subscription to usmleworld.com board review questions. It's such a hassle to be always tied down to a laptop. So I am hoping I will be able to have better results on a faster phone and larger display as compared to my HTC-TP2 which was really choppy when trying to remote-desktop.
2. My contacts on my TP2 is via Windows Mobile 6.5OS and saved through "PIM Backup" - Is there a way I can transfer my contacts from this application to the Android OS?
3. I don't have an HDMI TV or HDMI ready Monitor. I have an external LCD VGA monitor. Was there anything I could connect to that with that so that I can get the HD Station to work?
* At this point, I am not sure if I am going to unlock/root anything as this is my first time using the OS. It took me many months to actually flash my TP2 and try a few ROMs but I love the features - mainly the wifi router options.
4. I've heard stories of android malware being pumped out - How can I prevent any malicious software from being installed on this phone? Is there an official market website apart from accessing the phone itself? Do you use antivirus/malware software for this device?
Hello XDA Developers!
tl;dr I need either a solid, light OS replacement for Android 2.3 on my Atrix, or I need a video streaming and virtualization app with no lag that works between android devices and either windows or linux desktop.
First I'd like to say how impressed I am with you folks. Massive amounts of work most be done on a regular basis, and so I tip my hat to you in thanks for looking at my potential problem/question.
I've got two devices that I'd like to make some serious software changes to, one of them my Atrix (the other is a Flytouch Tablet ARM11 with Android 2.3, but that's for a different forum). Let me start by saying that I like to think of myself as very technically literate, but when it comes to linux I just don't have nearly as much experience as I do with windows/mac, and it is about to really show.
What I want to do is load a light Linux OS on these devices. Normally, if I was going to install a new windows kernel on a machine I would copy an ISO to a USB thumb drive and make the drive bootable (using the MS program Windows 7 USB/DVD maker), then startup the PC and either through the BIOS or by hitting the proper button during the startup sequence I would ask the PC to boot into the drive and begin the installation.
Questions:
What is the image file type for mobile OS's?
How would one choose the right type of linux OS for an Atrix?
What is the difference between flashing a ROM and installing and OS?
Why is it when I updated my phone recently that it became unrooted?
(and) Is there any way to revert this process to make rooting easier?
Is there any way to capture a video output (like a stream) and broadcast it to these mobile devices so I can avoid changing their software alltogether?
(and) Could I just remotely control another PC from the mobile device, letting it do all the actual computing?
Can I use the Webtop Dock as a monitor for my desktop if I can find the proper HDMI cable to connect it to the HDMI output on my desktop video card?
(and) Can I also connect the Micro USB and use the keyboard/mouse (hooked into my desktop motherboard) on it as well?
(and finally) Can I use my Atrix as a prototype omni-tool by docking it in a docking station, attaching various tools that work with a linux operating system (wide-spectrum ultrasound imaging, temperature monitors, vital monitors, electronic laser saw (USB) (with separate power attachment of course) and extendable, movable USB cameras?) and then strapping it onto my wrist with a cool leather bracer design?
My end-goal is to have all three of these devices on the same network, with the ability to seamlessly access my data between them. For example, if I'm working on a document, I'd like to be able to access the document in a document editing program across all the platforms (imagine google docs with multiple users) however with one MAJOR stipulation: I'll be on a local network with NO INTERNET ACCESS!
Briefly (to better help you understand just what I'm trying to do) I am a freelance archaeologist/deep sea explorer/ROV tinkerer about to do a series of surveys mostly by myself in some VERY remote locations. I'll have a Wi-Fi network to link all of my devices together running out of my boat, but it's only for data sharing between each other, and since Satellite Internet is a joke, I can't think of any way to get data out there, and I've decided to live without it while I'm away.
I have a webtop dock for my Atrix, and the environment developed by Motorola is far too restrictive. I've tried countless fixes to try and get the webtop2SD to work, but I must be doing something wrong (Maybe the latest update screwed it?). I think since I'd like to use some linux applications while on the mobile devices, I would rather install a custom OS for both.
OR (preffered)
Even more simply, I'd like to stream the video feed and remotely control my desktop PC (located on the boat) on the mobile devices, but with yet another stipulation: I can't have FPS lag (I usually get 1-2 FPS with all the virtualization and remote control apps I've tried). This would in some senses be the preferred option, since I really don't want to spend oodles of hours trying to get some program to work in a difficult, restricted environment like these mobile device's current OS's. Is there a good, non-lagging version of desktop virtualization for Android OS?
About that webdock: I can't seem to find a female-to-female micro HDMI cable anywhere on the internet, thought I did find one Micro HDMI extension cable, and bought it promptly. I could buy another, but cut the male ends off and splice the female parts together (**** just got kinky). But if I could, would this work?
Phew that was a lot! Again thanks so much for thinking for me!
I've personally never found any kind of remote desktop software that works without lag, but it might be possible to find some. Someone else might know what to tell you there.
After doing some basic searching, the only collaborative document solution that I've found has been Etherpad Lite. You could set up a desktop or laptop running linux as the server, and all the other devices on your small network could (theoretically) run a browser based client similar (but far less advanced) than Google Docs. This way, everything on your LAN/WLAN could access the application, if it's stout enough to support your needs.
https://github.com/Pita/etherpad-lite
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collab...Real-time_collaborative_text_editing_software
Everything you're looking for just seems to be limited for Android, I wish you the best of luck.
I have always found Teamviewer great for remote PC control from my Atrix. They have a nice app and free license for home/personal use. I get minimal lag controlling my PC at home when at work, but that's over WiFi. Not very fast and pretty laggy if I am on data with my Atrix.
BTW............I can work on documents, transfer files to and from PC's and laptops, print documents on my wireless printer, etc. across my home network from my Atrix, all routed through a Netgear WNR3500L running stock firmware (dd-wrt actually slowed my network down and reduced WiFi range considerably, so I reverted to stock).
First, there is no "magic" within the lapdock device. It is a nice HDMI screen, a couple crappy input devices on the USB side, and a battery. The standard Moto software does recognise the usb device and do some software magic, but certainly you could use the dock on it's own w/o the phone.
As to completely replacing the /osh webtop OS that Motorola provides, that is challanging.
There are 2 basic ways to open it up though. Go to the developers subforum and look for webtop2sd and "full Debian".
Somebody did post recently with an attempt to fully replace the webtop OS. he was using gentoo, so look for that and you should find it. But I suspect it is early, and likely to be a significant WP.
As to learning all this ****. If you do some Linux developement or heavy hacking (which it kind of sounds like) you should set up a full full blown 'droid dev platform and start playing. It is big and bulky, but you will learn faster that way than just searbhing around.
EDIT: just reread your post that you are light on Linux. if you want to do anything more than just follow along, it might be a good idea to setup something like an Ubuntu and get familiar there. 'Droid is way different looking (it really basterdises things around) but yoiu need to know both if you want to play with webtop hacks.
Thanks all. I'll look around again to see if I can find the threads you mentioned. I've tried Webtop2SD but to no success so far.
Thanks again.
I'm probably not the only one that has done this,but yesterday at work I setup a headless Windows XP VM with virtualbox on a computer,and used RealVNC Viewer on my phone to login remotely,and it worked pretty well. Our service order system does not display correctly in mobile web browsers (even the ones you can set to view in desktop mode),so this was an interesting alternative. I didnt specifically do this for my phone,but more or less to see how it would work on a bigger tablet. I used RealVNC,which is a paid app,but its definitely one of the best ones out there for this setup, more on that at the end.
Anyway,heres a few pointers if anyone wants to try this out.
1. Install virtualbox (and the extension pack),install your favorite guest OS and install your favorite VNC server (I just used TightVNC for the server as well). Also, shut down the VM and change the network type from NAT to Bridge (so it gets an IP from your network). Start it back up, get the IP address and shut it back down.
2. With the VM off,start it back up in headless mode:
My host OS was windows 7,so I created a batch file in the VB program files folder and added this:
Code:
VBoxManage startvm "VM name" --type headless
Then I made a shortcut to the batch file on the desktop.
the command is same for linux,but you can run it from any terminal directory I do believe
3. Give it a min to boot up,then adjust the resolution with:
Use this one time command,adjust the values if necessary. I created another batch file to run this command,then changed it for the next command we have to run.
Code:
VBoxManage setextradata global GUI/MaxGuestResolution 1920,1200
that will allow VirtualBox to globally use any resolution up to 1920x1200,but it wont actually change it,that is what the next one is for,this changes it on the fly:
Code:
VBoxManage controlvm "VM name" setvideomodehint 960 503 24
for best usage,disconnect and reconnect from the phone when changing it on the fly,RealVNC didnt exactly like the resolution changing while logged in.
Now with the RealVNC viewer,it keeps the notification bar at the top,so you cant exactly use it full screen,so thats why its not 960x540.
The realVNC app for 9.99 is worth it,all the other remote apps I have tried are either slower,or had dumb control schemes. This one seems to work the best. Also,I have never used the built in remote display function,so I dont know if it would work any better or not.
I had very minimal lag with 24 bit color on the phone,this method will work on any android device,you just have to figure out the maximum resolution to use without having to pan the screen. Obviously this will work great at home or at work using wifi,but not that great using 3G service.
thats pretty bad ass. For the Tegra 3 crowd, such as myself, Splashtop THD is more than just for gaming, again, it is paid like RealVNC, but the best part about it is it runs nearly lagless. Give it a shot if your hardware supports it
Hi guys,
I had the idea to fully replace my Android OS with Debian.
I'm using Debian at home all day and wouldn't use anything else
Well is it possible to use functions on the phone (like Dialing Numbers / contacts / whatsapp) via debian?
Then I would install it on my Z2. I mean it got 3GB of RAM (more then Debian needs to run) and yeah ^^
I also took a look at https://wiki.debian.org/Mobile
Debian can run on 600MB, i run a debian based OS on my server
(server idles around 400ish)
Lets see if someone wants to pick this up
It'd be nice to have something like so on our device
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Debian can run on 600MB, i run a debian based OS on my server
(server idles around 400ish)
Lets see if someone wants to pick this up
It'd be nice to have something like so on our device
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Well yeah Debian is also able to get controlled via Touch so I may gonna try this out tomorrow.
I run debian desktop via Linux Deploy and access the UI via vnc
That'd be nice to hear how this goes
Envious_Data said:
I run debian desktop via Linux Deploy and access the UI via vnc
That'd be nice to hear how this goes
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Same here, but with Kali Linux. I use it for stealing passwords on-the go I couldn't make it run through the framebuffer. If someone figures it out, it would be amazing!
P.S. Setting it up is a real pain. A VNC client on the PC wit mouse and kb is a lot easier than touch screen(for typing in the terminal)
BlAckXpeRia said:
Same here, but with Kali Linux. I use it for stealing passwords on-the go I couldn't make it run through the framebuffer. If someone figures it out, it would be amazing!
P.S. Setting it up is a real pain. A VNC client on the PC wit mouse and kb is a lot easier than touch screen(for typing in the terminal)
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I use RealVNC both on my laptop and my phone, for desktop it is just a simple exe that requires no install where as phone its a fairly simple app
localhost on my phone and my internal network ip on my laptop unless im not at home then i just use localhost from my phone.
i mostly use debain desktop just for random stuff aka accessing desktop pages or using a desktop OS torrent manager or downloading files through a webbrowser
I recently purchased uni android tool and am wanting to know if there is a solution that will allow clients to connect their phone to their computers via usb and then some how have it show up on mine as if it was a connected usb device? I have a few friends that have phones and dont want to have to mail them out so this would allow me to work on them remotely.
THanks!
Not exactly what you are looking for, but you could just use rdp or vnc to remote to their desktop, then use a link to your Google drive or drop box to download your software. You could then have then plug in at their end, you fix the phone, them clean up your downloaded files and uninstall the program.
Not a great business model, but would probably work for friends.
Another options is to build a small virtual box with all your tools and such on it. Then you connect with rdp or vnc, install VB, and so the work. The plus side to this is, your VB can be encrypted and password protected, so no one can "steal" your tools, and everything would be set up and ready, and you would have your preferred operating system, in case they used something else, like a mac/Apple product.
Thanks for the response.... that idea would definitely work except the tool I use hardware locks itself to my windows machine.... I had to install windows 10 via bootcamp on my macbook just to run the software as it wouldnt even run in a virtual machine.
I am looking into just writing my own custom software that will handle the usb over tcp via a server and clients.
If anyone else knows any solutions that are already available please let me know.
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