Hello all,
This was a full week of work to make functional ( this setup is considered for ADVANCED users only )
What this is about is to use a stock atrix that comes standard with a Citrix receiver, what does the receiver do is that it is an interface to the Xendesktop virtual desktop deployment and desktop delivery to any device or pc, mac, Linux smartphone except android for now (in this mode the atrix in webtop is considered linux).
Main ingredients for this cooking sesson :
==> One powerful PC with at least 6GB ram and dual core processor and really fast hard drives.
==> LOTS of patience and googling
Software needed :
-Windows 2008 server with service pack 2 at the least
-Xendesktop 5 express ISO from www.citrix.com
-Your flavor of a Hyper Visor : Vmware ESXi 4 / Xenserver / Microsoft Hyper-V
-Your flavor of OS you would like to use on your Atrix : Win XP / Vista / 7
Outline of install steps ( I am not going to go to detail here as Google is your friend )
1- Install a flavor of hyper-visor on your pc
2- Install the windows 2008 server VM on the hyper-visor
3- Install Xendesktop on the windows 2008 server ( do not use quick deploy )
4- Add active directory role to your windows 2008 server ( make sure you have Dydns domain that points to your router which is going to be your domain name for the AD )
5- Install a flavor of your favorite Desktop OS on the hyper-visor
6- Install adobe air, flash, acrobat reader and all your favorite apps you need on the run on your flavor of desktop OS.
7- Add the desktop OS to the domain you created in AD
8- Log in as administrator on the desktop OS and making sure you are logged in thru the domain THEN install Xendesktop desktop agent and configure it (do not use quick deploy).
9- Configure your router OR install a VPN server on the Hyper-visor OR install Citrix access gateway on the hyper-visor and configure it with Xendesktop (BIG monstrous headache)
By now you should be ready to jump of the roof, well you should be able to check that :
1- the desktop OS is ready under xendesktop console
2- you did make a catalog in xendesktop and added the machine and user to that catalog and all is good as you have followed the docs for xendesktop
3- you are seeing the web site of your xendesktop server locally
4- you are able to launch windows on your atrix 4G locally and remotely via which ever method you used to tunnel in to your local network.
I know there is alot of details are out, so fire up your questions and i will try my best to answer them
dude you dont know how long i've been trying to get this running.
This is by far the best quick guide out there.
If you could provide some further details as to how do we bypass certain limitations and possibly explain what drawbacks we face by having this run on our pc full time.
This is the BARE minimum as i tricked xendesktop to be running on a domain controller instead of having a DC by itself and another 08 server for the xendesktop which would mean you would need a bigger cpu or two computers like i did as i don't have much horse power.
There is no limitations the only limitation is that xendesktop express is free for 10 users licenses, you MUST keep the PC humming 24/7 for it to be available to you anywhere you go whether you are on your Atrix 4G or on another pc or mac or linux box, i can say this is the true mobile desktop, it looks very very nice on my laptop dock for the atrix, no need to hack into linux for now till sogarth gets it squared away, but in general i had fun doing this project, i will re do it with the quick deploy on my recently acquired dell poweredge server with hot scsi drives
tell me where did you fail or stop at and what did you try ???
OH by the way the pc you use for this you forget you had it cuz after you are done cooking you leave it aside and dont run anyrhing else on it !! LOL
molotof said:
This is the BARE minimum as i tricked xendesktop to be running on a domain controller instead of having a DC by itself and another 08 server for the xendesktop which would mean you would need a bigger cpu or two computers like i did as i don't have much horse power.
There is no limitations the only limitation is that xendesktop express is free for 10 users licenses, you MUST keep the PC humming 24/7 for it to be available to you anywhere you go whether you are on your Atrix 4G or on another pc or mac or linux box, i can say this is the true mobile desktop, it looks very very nice on my laptop dock for the atrix, no need to hack into linux for now till sogarth gets it squared away, but in general i had fun doing this project, i will re do it with the quick deploy on my recently acquired dell poweredge server with hot scsi drives
tell me where did you fail or stop at and what did you try ???
OH by the way the pc you use for this you forget you had it cuz after you are done cooking you leave it aside and dont run anyrhing else on it !! LOL
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Thanks for letting me know and updating your OP
I guess I need another PC as a server :X I need to figure that part out.
Hello XDA Developers!
tl;dr I need either a solid, light OS replacement for Android 2.3 on my Atrix, or I need a video streaming and virtualization app with no lag that works between android devices and either windows or linux desktop.
First I'd like to say how impressed I am with you folks. Massive amounts of work most be done on a regular basis, and so I tip my hat to you in thanks for looking at my potential problem/question.
I've got two devices that I'd like to make some serious software changes to, one of them my Atrix (the other is a Flytouch Tablet ARM11 with Android 2.3, but that's for a different forum). Let me start by saying that I like to think of myself as very technically literate, but when it comes to linux I just don't have nearly as much experience as I do with windows/mac, and it is about to really show.
What I want to do is load a light Linux OS on these devices. Normally, if I was going to install a new windows kernel on a machine I would copy an ISO to a USB thumb drive and make the drive bootable (using the MS program Windows 7 USB/DVD maker), then startup the PC and either through the BIOS or by hitting the proper button during the startup sequence I would ask the PC to boot into the drive and begin the installation.
Questions:
What is the image file type for mobile OS's?
How would one choose the right type of linux OS for an Atrix?
What is the difference between flashing a ROM and installing and OS?
Why is it when I updated my phone recently that it became unrooted?
(and) Is there any way to revert this process to make rooting easier?
Is there any way to capture a video output (like a stream) and broadcast it to these mobile devices so I can avoid changing their software alltogether?
(and) Could I just remotely control another PC from the mobile device, letting it do all the actual computing?
Can I use the Webtop Dock as a monitor for my desktop if I can find the proper HDMI cable to connect it to the HDMI output on my desktop video card?
(and) Can I also connect the Micro USB and use the keyboard/mouse (hooked into my desktop motherboard) on it as well?
(and finally) Can I use my Atrix as a prototype omni-tool by docking it in a docking station, attaching various tools that work with a linux operating system (wide-spectrum ultrasound imaging, temperature monitors, vital monitors, electronic laser saw (USB) (with separate power attachment of course) and extendable, movable USB cameras?) and then strapping it onto my wrist with a cool leather bracer design?
My end-goal is to have all three of these devices on the same network, with the ability to seamlessly access my data between them. For example, if I'm working on a document, I'd like to be able to access the document in a document editing program across all the platforms (imagine google docs with multiple users) however with one MAJOR stipulation: I'll be on a local network with NO INTERNET ACCESS!
Briefly (to better help you understand just what I'm trying to do) I am a freelance archaeologist/deep sea explorer/ROV tinkerer about to do a series of surveys mostly by myself in some VERY remote locations. I'll have a Wi-Fi network to link all of my devices together running out of my boat, but it's only for data sharing between each other, and since Satellite Internet is a joke, I can't think of any way to get data out there, and I've decided to live without it while I'm away.
I have a webtop dock for my Atrix, and the environment developed by Motorola is far too restrictive. I've tried countless fixes to try and get the webtop2SD to work, but I must be doing something wrong (Maybe the latest update screwed it?). I think since I'd like to use some linux applications while on the mobile devices, I would rather install a custom OS for both.
OR (preffered)
Even more simply, I'd like to stream the video feed and remotely control my desktop PC (located on the boat) on the mobile devices, but with yet another stipulation: I can't have FPS lag (I usually get 1-2 FPS with all the virtualization and remote control apps I've tried). This would in some senses be the preferred option, since I really don't want to spend oodles of hours trying to get some program to work in a difficult, restricted environment like these mobile device's current OS's. Is there a good, non-lagging version of desktop virtualization for Android OS?
About that webdock: I can't seem to find a female-to-female micro HDMI cable anywhere on the internet, thought I did find one Micro HDMI extension cable, and bought it promptly. I could buy another, but cut the male ends off and splice the female parts together (**** just got kinky). But if I could, would this work?
Phew that was a lot! Again thanks so much for thinking for me!
I've personally never found any kind of remote desktop software that works without lag, but it might be possible to find some. Someone else might know what to tell you there.
After doing some basic searching, the only collaborative document solution that I've found has been Etherpad Lite. You could set up a desktop or laptop running linux as the server, and all the other devices on your small network could (theoretically) run a browser based client similar (but far less advanced) than Google Docs. This way, everything on your LAN/WLAN could access the application, if it's stout enough to support your needs.
https://github.com/Pita/etherpad-lite
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collab...Real-time_collaborative_text_editing_software
Everything you're looking for just seems to be limited for Android, I wish you the best of luck.
I have always found Teamviewer great for remote PC control from my Atrix. They have a nice app and free license for home/personal use. I get minimal lag controlling my PC at home when at work, but that's over WiFi. Not very fast and pretty laggy if I am on data with my Atrix.
BTW............I can work on documents, transfer files to and from PC's and laptops, print documents on my wireless printer, etc. across my home network from my Atrix, all routed through a Netgear WNR3500L running stock firmware (dd-wrt actually slowed my network down and reduced WiFi range considerably, so I reverted to stock).
First, there is no "magic" within the lapdock device. It is a nice HDMI screen, a couple crappy input devices on the USB side, and a battery. The standard Moto software does recognise the usb device and do some software magic, but certainly you could use the dock on it's own w/o the phone.
As to completely replacing the /osh webtop OS that Motorola provides, that is challanging.
There are 2 basic ways to open it up though. Go to the developers subforum and look for webtop2sd and "full Debian".
Somebody did post recently with an attempt to fully replace the webtop OS. he was using gentoo, so look for that and you should find it. But I suspect it is early, and likely to be a significant WP.
As to learning all this ****. If you do some Linux developement or heavy hacking (which it kind of sounds like) you should set up a full full blown 'droid dev platform and start playing. It is big and bulky, but you will learn faster that way than just searbhing around.
EDIT: just reread your post that you are light on Linux. if you want to do anything more than just follow along, it might be a good idea to setup something like an Ubuntu and get familiar there. 'Droid is way different looking (it really basterdises things around) but yoiu need to know both if you want to play with webtop hacks.
Thanks all. I'll look around again to see if I can find the threads you mentioned. I've tried Webtop2SD but to no success so far.
Thanks again.
My current laptop is going on 6 years old which should tell you that I don't push it very hard as far as computing power goes. Mostly what I'm doing with the laptop is email and web browsing - which is why I'm thinking the Tranformer prime + dock might be a good replacement for it.
I already know how to get my company email on it since I'm a long time Android phone user so that's not an issue.
If I were able to establish a VPN connection to the corporate network, that would clear up the few reservations I have in that if I could VPN in, then I could use remote desktop to connect to my desktop PC and do anything I needed to do that way. The issue is I'm not going to get any help our of our network administrator.
Personal devices are allowed as long as you agree to and sign the remote access and mobile devices policies. What I currently have is the installer for the Cisco VPN client (not AnyConnect) and a .pcf file. To get remote access from a Windows laptop I just have to install the client and import the .pcf file and I'm in business. For anything else I may need, its legal according to the policies but I'm just not going to get any help with it.
It looks like a lot of the connection information is in the .pcf file I use on Windows - but the password seems to be encrypted. Is there some client, either built in to the TP ICS build or that I can get from the market that would allow me to just import that .pcf file like I can in the regular VPN client? Or is there some other way to extract the information I need from the .pcf file. Like I said the network admin is extremely unhelpful and whatever I do will have to be using the resources available and on my own dime.
This is an important issue for me in that if I can't get some confidence before purchasing...I may have to stick with the Windows laptop. Anyone else familiar with this situation? I'm sure I can't be the only one.
I am looking forward to getting my hands on wp8 most likely a lumia 920. My question is does anyone know of remote desktop software? I was really dissapointed that wp7 did not have one that was as easy as teamviewer. I have emailed teamviewer with the usual reply " if something is developed we will let you know." I have tried all the remote apps onn my wp7 to log into my work pc and no success. I have to resort to teamviewer on my laptop or my tablet. Does anyone know any inside knowledge or is it due to fact that I had a wp7 rom on my hd2 that prevented the remote control apps to work?
jpneves1978 said:
I am looking forward to getting my hands on wp8 most likely a lumia 920. My question is does anyone know of remote desktop software? I was really dissapointed that wp7 did not have one that was as easy as teamviewer. I have emailed teamviewer with the usual reply " if something is developed we will let you know." I have tried all the remote apps onn my wp7 to log into my work pc and no success. I have to resort to teamviewer on my laptop or my tablet. Does anyone know any inside knowledge or is it due to fact that I had a wp7 rom on my hd2 that prevented the remote control apps to work?
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I'm currently using PC Remote. It can found in the App store. has a 4.5 star rating from 3277 people.
shindou26 said:
I'm currently using PC Remote. It can found in the App store. has a 4.5 star rating from 3277 people.
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I have tried pc remote but my works ip address is hidden. I need something that works like teamview where you just log in and connect. I may try pc remote again and see what i can tinker with
I'm looking for something as well. The RDP metro app on Windows RT is really neat, I don't know why they just don't have it on windows phone 8. The thing that is killing me is the lack of VPN. Even Windows RT has built-in VPN and it works great.
Ive tried to look at how to create such a thing but im stumped at the first hurdle to be hoest.
Are there or is there anything available or under developemtn to control wifi enabled lighting that is not phillips HUE?
I have Easybulb lights at home which use an iphone/android app to control them. Currently im using my work tablet (android) orthe Mrs' iPad.
some kind developer has made a windows app (non windows 8) which is pretty good for my pc and my windows tablet, but i cant seem to get anythign on my phone to do the job.
'Apparently'.... all the coding is available online for what is needed - it needs to send UDP data to an ip address of the wifi bridge via a GUI.
any suggestions are most welcomed?