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I don't think best buy would even noticed if I return a rooted phone as long as the rom is as close stock as I can get. Any opinions?
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slinky1914 said:
I don't think best buy would even noticed if I return a rooted phone as long as the rom is as close stock as I can get. Any opinions?
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theres no guarantees but you are correct they probably wont notice that it doesn't work. What they will be looking for is if the phone works, water damage indicator and physical damage. They will probably once over the phone then return it as long as you are within your proper return period.
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theres no guarantees but you are correct they probably wont notice that it doesn't work. What they will be looking for is if the phone works, water damage indicator and physical damage. They will probably once over the phone then return it as long as you are within your proper return period.
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That's what I'm thinking. It works it just won't have as much bloatware on it. There just gonna resell it anyway. I tried to restore the nandroid of the original rom but once restored it gets stuck at the first samasung splash screen.
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slinky1914 said:
That's what I'm thinking. It works it just won't have as much bloatware on it. There just gonna resell it anyway. I tried to restore the nandroid of the original rom but once restored it gets stuck at the first samasung splash screen.
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Well with all returns what they do is send it back to Tmobile they will send it to Samsung and get turn into a refurbish unit (for exchanges and such) They will flash the OEM Rom back on it.
Flash stock using Odin? It brings the phone unrooted and all the bloatware back
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Flash stock using Odin? It brings the phone unrooted and all the bloatware back
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No I haven't yet. Seems like a lot of work if they are gonna do it anyway. And some people have had some issues.
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If you flash back via ODIN make sure the three button recovery works because if ODIN crashes mid-way (I've had this happen twice on my previous Vibrant) you've got a brick if you can't get it back into download mode via the buttons. Do a forum search. Or maybe if you wound up with the dreaded black screen of death that wouldn't be such a bad thing. They'd almost have to take it back then.
i just returned one the other day to best buy and the chick went through the phone for a couple of minutes, checked settings and menus and then also checked for physical damage. i had reflashed it back to stock anyways as bell's version comes with a bunch of specific apps. i was glad i did flash it back and i also relocked it to bell's network as i had unlocked it for use on rogers
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i just returned one the other day to best buy and the chick went through the phone for a couple of minutes, checked settings and menus and then also checked for physical damage. i had reflashed it back to stock anyways as bell's version comes with a bunch of specific apps. i was glad i did flash it back and i also relocked it to bell's network as i had unlocked it for use on rogers
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It is true every once in a while you will get a rep who knows their stuff (when i worked at t-mobile i would play with customers who had flashed new ROMs on their G1 ) However most of the time you will get minim wage joe blow and he could give a rats ass.
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It is true every once in a while you will get a rep who knows their stuff (when i worked at t-mobile i would play with customers who had flashed new ROMs on their G1 ) However most of the time you will get minim wage joe blow and he could give a rats ass.
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true, true
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No I haven't yet. Seems like a lot of work if they are gonna do it anyway. And some people have had some issues.
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It really isn't.. its better to be safe than sorry. At least thats how I feel.
And as far as that phone -- pc logo, I guess they would take it back but if they ask you how did it get that way? you're going to have to lie about it and its just going to feel really awkward.
Truthfully though, all they'd have to be trained to do is not accept returns if you see the superuser app. That'd be the easiest way to see if someone has rooted their phone & If you're not even going to take the effort to flash it back to stock, you're probably not going to delete that app either.
Just re-Odin it & call it a day. It took me less than 5 minutes to get back to stock & maybe another 5 to download the necessary files.
This will also ensure that you don't have any leftover contacts or log ins to facebook or anything like that on there (better safe than sorry).
Thanks guys. I was using my slide for the last couple of days by picked the vibrant back up and fell back in love. If I do decide to return it I'll put it back on stock. Thanks again guys.
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i dont think they care
just aslong as it lokks in good shape
but sometimes you get that one derp that feels the he/she needs to look through it
Why don't u install one clig lag fix from market and unroot it? Should be easy.
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nguyenmd said:
Why don't u install one clig lag fix from market and unroot it? Should be easy.
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What about installing the Galaxysrooter from the app market then unrooting it with this app?
Im a little new at all this so please excuse me if i sound dumb. Cant you just flash a nandroid backup and then undo root also?
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Im a little new at all this so please excuse me if i sound dumb. Cant you just flash a nandroid backup and then undo root also?
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Yup, that'll work as well. Or you could download a nandroid that is stock without root.
i got my vibrant the day it came out, from costco... $99
Swapped it a week later, Couldn't unroot it for some reason, but they didn't notice... then again it was costco
They won't care trust me i worked for tmo. These people don't even know what root is they might think its a plant. They just scan it out of their inventory and send it to samsung. If it has root on it they are not going to send it back to tmo just to find u or look to charge your account. That is soooooo tedious cuz u have to do an IMEI search which hardly works on TMOs internal network (i tried when i worked with them never really worked) so yea all they look for is hardware damage and the liquid damage indicator other then that ur golden.
I forced 2.2 onto the phone with Kies Mini and ever since then battery life has been atrocious and bluetooth will no longer connect to my stereo. Tried every single route to flash a custom ROM on the phone and nothing will get it to work. I just want to go back to the way it was with 2.1 and unroot it. Can anyone point me in the right direction before this phone ends up in a million pieces? Odin? I thought uninstalling Kies Mini might do the trick but I dont see it in my app list
Download AIO : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=954509
PDA: www.justanotherdev.slackdev.com/T959UVJFD.tar
PIT : www.justanotherdev.slackdev.com/s1_odin_20100512.rar
1. Connect your phone with debugging enabled
2. Open Flash to stock
3. Find Pit file
4. Find PDA file
5. Click start
then you're done! Goodluck
Video here :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnY7P14JSWQ
used them last night and all working.
Here, all in one place, files are confirmed working since I used them last week.
Go back to stock:
http://androidspin.com/2010/08/09/how-to-restore-or-recover-your-samsung-vibrant/
Then you root:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
Enjoy!
So the official froyo update isn't worth it?
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No way, it's hell. Go custom 2.2, im with Trigger 2.6.2 and super happy.
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Oh ****. I can't even do the supposed easy task of installing the official version let alone a custom one. Im ****ed.
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Abu-7abash said:
Oh ****. I can't even do the supposed easy task of installing the official version let alone a custom one. Im ****ed.
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What's happening?
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Nothing its just that im a noob in this developing departement TBH, and so limiting an actual upgrade to a custom version means no upgrade at all in my case. Hence me being stuck with this oldie 2.1
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You should do it, it's not that bad. Find the Bible and use it...
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roumenjr said:
No way, it's hell. Go custom 2.2, im with Trigger 2.6.2 and super happy.
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These are my feelings precisely. When a customer comes in my location and asks for us to hook their phone up to Kies and update it I have to resist the urge to root their phone for them.
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These are my feelings precisely. When a customer comes in my location and asks for us to hook their phone up to Kies and update it I have to resist the urge to root their phone for them.
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Lol, that's a good one, I don't think you're supposed to do that.... lol
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Abu-7abash said:
Nothing its just that im a noob in this developing departement TBH, and so limiting an actual upgrade to a custom version means no upgrade at all in my case. Hence me being stuck with this oldie 2.1
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I was scared as hell when doing my first rom flash also, but it is TOTALLY worth it. You'll have a completely different phone depending on what you flash. Just follow all the instructions and there's plenty of help along the way if something goes awry
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These are my feelings precisely. When a customer comes in my location and asks for us to hook their phone up to Kies and update it I have to resist the urge to root their phone for them.
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My buddy works for T-Mo and he refers customers with Vibrants to this website. The Vibrant with the stock firmware is junk.
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My buddy works for T-Mo and he refers customers with Vibrants to this website. The Vibrant with the stock firmware is junk.
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I refer everyone to this website even if all they have is a rough stretch of a smart phone on a brick. I haven't looked, but I'm sure there's even a forum for that here!
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I refer everyone to this website even if all they have is a rough stretch of a smart phone on a brick. I haven't looked, but I'm sure there's even a forum for that here!
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That post made my day. LOL.
I ported a captivate rom and i decided that it was not stable enough to be released. I flashed several roms since then. I have done odin back to stock with re-partician on and i still have this at&t world phone splash screen. Can somebody please help me!
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I ported a captivate rom and i decided that it was not stable enough to be released. I flashed several roms since then. I have done odin back to stock with re-partician on and i still have this at&t world phone splash screen. Can somebody please help me!
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Is it your bootanimation.zip?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=862537
some themes come with a bootanimation
nomadrider123 said:
Is it your bootanimation.zip?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=862537
some themes come with a bootanimation
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It is not boot animation. It would have gone away with odin
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It is not boot animation. It would have gone away with odin
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It MIGHT be the boot animation.
Maybe there was a problem with odin?
Etc.
Just replace boot animation, see if it works
boot animation did not change it. I REALLY want it gone
Which kernel and modem are you using?
thats really odd ODIN didn't replace it. at&t bootanim after fresh ODIN and at&t after flash of ROMs huh. How bout kernels? still at&t? Do you get either one of the custom bootanims?
I am now using overstock with kb1 modem
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Wait so instead of saying Vibrant Samsung it says attworld phone?
Or is it the bootanimation?
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When I turn the phone on it says at&t world phone right away then it goes to vibrant screen
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Hmm weird.
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Anyone got anymore ideas?
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WELL... since we're almost becoming ATT, might as well keep that?!
Lol.
I know a trick to remove it, its for advanced users, so I'll post a DETAILED instructions to change it from my computer after school.
xriderx66 said:
WELL... since we're almost becoming ATT, might as well keep that?!
Lol.
I know a trick to remove it, its for advanced users, so I'll post a DETAILED instructions to change it from my computer after school.
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Thanks
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xriderx66 said:
WELL... since we're almost becoming ATT, might as well keep that?!
Lol.
I know a trick to remove it, its for advanced users, so I'll post a DETAILED instructions to change it from my computer after school.
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Can you tell me the advanced way?
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i am suffering from the exact problem, very annoying.
viksfan4life said:
I ported a captivate rom and i decided that it was not stable enough to be released. I flashed several roms since then. I have done odin back to stock with re-partician on and i still have this at&t world phone splash screen. Can somebody please help me!
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i am having the same problem here.
It's not a boot animation. You must have flashed sbl.bin from the ATT ROM...can you provide a link to the ROM you were trying to port?
You need to flash the vibrant sbl.bin. I believe it's in the bible.
Its your bootloader....you need to re-flash the original vibrant sbl.bin to get rid of it. JI6 has it I believe...if not its JFD
i have odin it using both and still i get the at&t logo, its driving me crazy.
Ok so i restored my stock backup because i needed to do a fresh install of unnamed. now when i turn the phone off it comes right back on and when i try to go into recovery it just continues booting up. what have i done and what do i need to do?
Even with phone on you can press and hold power and both volume up and down. Keep holding it and it will boot you into recovery.
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there is no need to go to stock to do a new rom flash
The problem is fixed but now i face a new dilemma. When i go to turn the phone off it comes right back on. Even with a hard shut down. Also happens when i pull the battery and put it back in. It will turn on again by it self. I am on unnamed 1.3.1 with the blue monkey theme. Any ideas?
what if maybe your power button is tweaked?
I guess warranty wouldnt cover it because I'm rooted?
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I guess warranty wouldnt cover it because I'm rooted?
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If you revert the root using entropy rom and a jig you can return it for warranty work undetected.
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k4zyn said:
If you revert the root using entropy rom and a jig you can return it for warranty work undetected.
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Alright thanks. Ill look into it. me being an android noob is not helping the situation lol.
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MWilkenson said:
Alright thanks. Ill look into it. me being an android noob is not helping the situation lol.
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True
jk
Be still true
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Ok I'm honestly baffled here. My battery life has been terrible. Here's what has been done recently. two days ago I restored my stock back up and flashed unnamed 1.3.1. Noticed my battery was dying very quickly. So I went into cwm. Wiped data, cache and davik cache and reflashed unnamed 1.3.1. My battery is dying no exaggeration about 10% every 40-50 minutes. In addition to all this...my phone wont stay turned off. It turns it self on after about 2 seconds. Ugh please help me.
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Wow. That's pretty rough. I say go back to 100% stock and see how it goes. If it still is dropping that fast your battery may be bad.
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The phone screen turning back on so often says "rogue app" to me.
I really appreciate the replys. I'm going to take one more day and see how it goes...if its still not working right ill be buying a USB jig and learning how to get back to stock.
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gr8hairy1 said:
Wow. That's pretty rough. I say go back to 100% stock and see how it goes. If it still is dropping that fast your battery may be bad.
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Also when you say go back to 100% stock...do you mean like restore my stock back up? Or am i going back to 100% stock unrooted? Or what? I've seen a couple threads, I'm just confused so I apologize. If you could guide me in the right direction I would appreciate it.
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MWilkenson said:
Also when you say go back to 100% stock...do you mean like restore my stock back up? Or am i going back to 100% stock unrooted? Or what? I've seen a couple threads, I'm just confused so I apologize. If you could guide me in the right direction I would appreciate it.
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Use Entropy512's return/unbrick to stock package. Or I have an Odin3 OneClick Downloader of his package is you prefer. It's a little easier. See the link in my signature.
There is no such thing as a backup of 100% stock. To make a working nandroid backup, you need to already have a custom kernel installed.
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Use Entropy512's return/unbrick to stock package. Or I have an Odin3 OneClick Downloader of his package is you prefer. It's a little easier. See the link in my signature.
There is no such thing as a backup of 100% stock. To make a working nandroid backup, you need to already have a custom kernel installed.
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Thank you so much. I will check it out when I get home. So after I do that I'll still be rooted? Or do I need to root again before I flash a rom again? I promise im almost out of noob questions.
And I might try getting a new battery to fix the other problem. I'd hate to have to send my phone in for warranty
EDIT: ok i just looked at your link with odin 3. say i use the one without root. i would essentially be bone stock out of the box correct? and from there i could just start over, use the guide on how to root, etc.?
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MWilkenson said:
EDIT: ok i just looked at your link with odin 3. say i use the one without root. i would essentially be bone stock out of the box correct? and from there i could just start over, use the guide on how to root, etc.?
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The only difference between the two packages is one will give you root while the other will not. If you go with the one with root you will be 100% stock aside from root. I only recommend going 100% because then you'll know it won't be any rogue apps draining the battery or issues from a custom rom. If you get the expected battery life stock rom has then you'll know the battery is good. If it's lower than what is usually is for stock rom most at&t stores will replace the battery on the spot for you.
So no benefit of going with the package without root unless you're taking it back to at&t.
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ok i just went back to stock + root. about to flash the unnamed rom again. I cannot express how appreciative i am for everyones help and for being patient with me. im slowing learning as much as i can. thanks everyone!
Pay it forward
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indeed i will sir.
although i do have another question..sorry. Ok so when i first rooted i became acustom to CWM and flashing unnamed rom themes in that. After i used odin3 one click it gives me the android system recovery 3e and ive never seen it before. can i still flash unnamed through this or do i do something different?
edit: ha nevermind i found it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18576627#post18576627
sorry.
First Let me say everything Here is all my personal Opinion and by just rooting phones and installing mod I already sorta voided my warranty. Okay Lets start, A few months when the ICS bug was Hot Like fish grease my phone's USB was corroded and would not charge. I went to a ATT Repair center and Got a new one/refurbish one and I notice that it didn't have much under the battery All it said was the Model number IME barcode and the "MADE IN CHINA" Letters.
I came home and the first thing I did was root install GB custom rom. I decided to wait for CM9 to taste ICS. After it was On nightly I install like any other installation and then move on to AOKP Rom from task, That rom has the feature that lets you change the text where you carrier label is. And I change which was fine. I went back to CM9 and that text Remain there and I did wipe/data like it said in the instructions, When I updated to the latest nightly I use Rom manager and booted into CMW (noob mistake) I wasn't paying attention and I got a soft brick. phone booted and showed SAMSUNG GALAXY SII but then just turn off and on buttons on bottom lit up like when you put your phone into download mode. I pull battery Use method to return to stock/root Using Odin Which if I'm correct it would have increase my counter (Correct me if I'm wrong) phone work Install a kernel with CMW using terminal install CM9 And even when I did those steps the same text That I had use was still There.
I found that very Weird but I still left it I didn't care. When the Leak ATT ICS came out Entropy said something about Bricking your phone something to do with the eMMC chip or whatever, Anyways Fast forward to lastnight/today I wanted to start from scratch and install a Samsung base rom just for giggles. And to my surprise I wipe my SD card and tried to wipe my phone but in the whole process my phone lag and I guess I press the button to wipe so many times I pull battery and guess what happen?... I got a soft brick again, Okay spend 30 mins again to redo my regular soft brick steps and my media scanner, Gallery, Camera didn't work. I then again wipe the phone and loaded semi v16c UCLE5 att update and my phone work again I formatted my sd card and my gallery camera started working again. But again the Carrier text from The very first AOKP rom Was still there in the lock screen.'
I again wipe and soft brick but this time to test out if it really does happen when You wipe from phone. Which it did happen and again repeated my steps. I guess I would like entropy or someone with more knowledge than me help me answer these mind boggling questions.
1. Is it possible my phone is sorta unique of the soft brick/wipe phone routine?
2. I downloaded the app from chain fire that detects if your emmc chip is one of the unlucky ones who have the bug or whatever and I do have the chip
3.How is it possible That the carrier label text is still there after so many wipes and rom flashes
4. I pretty sure I have not done anything to the boot loaders unless the roms I flash has them (which I think they don't)
I hope I explain my situation good. Again this is not a rant or troll or a customer support tread I clearly Understand the dangers of flashing and rooting Thanks for reading
p.s remove the picture because apparently my screenshot is offensive
Well that was a mouthful. LOL.
What are you using to wipe the phone? CWM or Factory data reset in settings?
Phone wipe in settings
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Phone wipe in settings
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Well there's your problem. Use wipe in CWM.
Yeah but I guess my whole dilemma was why do I always get soft bricks even though I'm not on att leak crazy leak ics
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Yeah but I guess my whole dilemma was why do I always get soft bricks even though I'm not on att leak crazy leak ics
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1. You use rom manager
2. You use the factory reset in settings
3. You pull the battery in the middle of flashes
Why are you using Odin when you have cwm? Are you not making nandroids before flashing? Do you know how to boot to recovery from a boot loop?
I suggest you read a whole lot more about flashing and recovery before you do anymore. Because a lot of what you posted sounds like it could've been avoided had you followed any of the guides.post on xda
I can't get into cmw after the reset ebcouse phone won't boot into cwm so I have use Odin because I can only put phone in download mode
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I can't get into cmw after the reset ebcouse phone won't boot into cwm so I have use Odin because I can only put phone in download mode
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Like he said.... do not use the reset within settings as it will soft brick everytime.
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Like he said.... do not use the reset within settings as it will soft brick everytime.
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I actually didn't know this, I had just never tried using the settings reset. Thanks for the heads up. BTW, does it soft brick even if you don't flash a new ROM? Or only when you change ROMs after doing a settings reset?
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I actually didn't know this, I had just never tried using the settings reset. Thanks for the heads up. BTW, does it soft brick even if you don't flash a new ROM? Or only when you change ROMs after doing a settings reset?
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When using a custom ROM. If you are using what came with the phone or is updated officially via ATT then you may use it without issue.
OK . First, don't use rom manager. As already stated. And second, make sure to do FULL wipes between flashing different roms. This includes /system, data, cache, dalvik, and running the kernel cleaning script for good measure. That should always leave u with a fresh install.
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It does it even with the stock root one I use to get back into flashing also the Damm carrier txt still there I'm currently using the jb leak how is that possible
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It will do it on a stock rooted rom as well..
*TGFY FTW*
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It does it even with the stock root one I use to get back into flashing also the Damm carrier txt still there I'm currently using the jb leak how is that possible
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It will do it on a stock rooted rom as well..
*TGFY FTW*
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C'mon guys... if you are rooted you are NOT stock.
There is no way that this would keel happening if u do a full wipe .
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Thanks for the info shoman never really though I about it rooted stock being not fully stock. I guess I can do a control test and run an actual stock and see if it will soft brick.
I just think uts a bit weird my made in China phone has or suffers these things.
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Thanks for the info shoman never really though I about it rooted stock being not fully stock. I guess I can do a control test and run an actual stock and see if it will soft brick.
I just think uts a bit weird my made in China phone has or suffers these things.
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Why is it weird? The issues you're having is all user error. Nothing to do with the phone.
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Why is it weird? The issues you're having is all user error. Nothing to do with the phone.
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I'm going on a limb and say it's not a lot of user error, from what I seen and read in these forums its about hardware and user.
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Crap, I did not mean to thank you; I meant to quote you.
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I'm going on a limb and say it's not a lot of user error, from what I seen and read in these forums its about hardware and user.
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You can't start talking about hardware problems until you eliminate all user error.
mattdm said:
Crap, I did not mean to thank you; I meant to quote you.
You can't start talking about hardware problems until you eliminate all user error.
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Very true,
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