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Depends what was wrong. If you believe the issue can resurface and it was bad enough to need a swap, I would swap it out. If you like your phone and you know the issue was a fluke, keep it. Keep in mind, these are only opinions.
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From my experience with warranty replacements, new devices are almost always better than any refurbished device. I have had several more issues with warranty replacements than the new retail phones. Poor warranty replacements is actually the reason I got my Fascinate. If your original is fine, and you don't think whatever went wrong will happen again, I'd say keep it. If you think the issue will happen again, then send it in, as a working refurb is better than a non-working original.

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Gotta send one of em back. They will charge it to your account if you do not. Im using a refurb now but its the second one they sent me because the first was defective. However this phone works better and has next to no issues on root or flashing than any other fascinates I have dealt with. So in other words its a bad split decision that only time either way will prove which is best to keep. Unfortunately time is sensitive in this situation.
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zzd4nzz said:
thanks guys for the comments
I was also thinking the same thing. I just wanted to know if it was possible to keep the original even though you called for warranty!
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As far as I know, VZW doesn't care which you send back, as long as you send one of them back.

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Sending in another Eris, help convincing verizon???

So i went and talked to verizon about my defective eris, they took a look at it. Sent me a new one. Now i havent even got to send back my first one and the new one is having the same problem....
Its got the trackball bug, scrolling to the left. Now seeing as this only happens when i NEED to use my phone im assuming when i take it in it's going to make me look stupid in front of verizon. Now is there anything i can do to convince them this one is defective and i need a new phone??? Preferably a phone that isnt the Eris?
I don't think so man. Everyone has had different experiences, some good some bad. You just have to find the right Verizon rep apparently. Try to be polite but ask to speak to a supervisor. Talk about switching to AT&T if you get another Eris. Talk about the Eris being defective and how many people you know with trackball problems. There is some poor soul on here who is on his 6th or 7th Eris so don't feel too bad if it doesn't work. Let us know how it goes.
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I'm on my third and almost sent that one back in as the usb port is screwed up. I've heard of people getting offered a different phone on the fourth one but also of people on their fifth Eris. So I have no clue how to get a different phone, I asked the last time but got a no. But was told in December I could do an early upgrade, 1 year into a 2 year contract.
Zerox8610 said:
So i went and talked to verizon about my defective eris, they took a look at it. Sent me a new one. Now i havent even got to send back my first one and the new one is having the same problem....
Its got the trackball bug, scrolling to the left. Now seeing as this only happens when i NEED to use my phone im assuming when i take it in it's going to make me look stupid in front of verizon. Now is there anything i can do to convince them this one is defective and i need a new phone??? Preferably a phone that isnt the Eris?
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The trackball issue is due to the USB being too close to the track ball on the pcb. Basically when the usb cable is jiggled, you may recover trackball usage. It is just a design flaw. My trackball is only operable when you make it worse by ****ing with it but generally the problem is inevitable. The new phone you got is actually a refurb that verizon failed at testing. You may even be able to use this consistency to get discounts, credits, etc for a new droid 2 or something.
I had that issue, it wasn't a problem. I told them it happened occasionally.
When i had my enV1 it had battery issues, on my 4th they gave me the enV2.
Push the issue, but be nice.
Just say, I wish there was a phone *ahem*dinc*ahem* that was similar in formfactor as my eris but had a way of inputting that didn't use a ball. *ahem*dinc*ahem*
dinc??????????
I think dinc is a Droid Incredible.
Well they called it a dinc on Android forums and figured that was sort of a standard in the community.
Stonent said:
Well they called it a dinc on Android forums and figured that was sort of a standard in the community.
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hello
flash the ruu from hboot and your good
DS36 said:
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flash the ruu from hboot and your good
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Wrong thread?
Call technical support, don't go to a store. Tell them you'd upgrade if you could. You hate eris, blah blah blah. I got two incredibles this way and paid nothing
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Eris Replacements?

Hey Guys,
Just curious to see if anyone else is in the same situation. My first Eris was ok for a few months, but began to slow down and the touchscreen wasn't working well, so VZW shipped me a replacement. Immediately after swapping, the replacement's touchscreen was unresponsive, so I had another one shipped out, and I got it Monday. That phone is the one I have now, and it keeps overheating and dying within three hours. Replacement #4 comes on Friday.
At this point, I'm sick of these things. A phone should just work. I know the Eris was the lower-end model, but at the time it was all I could get. Today when speaking to the girl she did mention that I could purchase another 'like-new' phone, though I'd have to pay for it. The original Motorola Droid was the most expensive at $289.00. Has anyone had enough issues with this phone to get them to send you a new phone for free? I don't want to overpay for a replacement model that's already been used. My warranty expires soon as well, so I need to resolve the issue fast. I've seen success stories of some people getting new Incredibles sent to them, can any of you share how? I'd like to think that Eris #4 will work, but I'm skeptical at this point. Apparently Verizon's 'rigorous re-certification process' isn't so rigorous after all. It would be cheaper to switch networks and get a new Android phone, but it's not an option because I'm on a plan with my family.
Thanks!
Just call them and when they offer to send you another eris, tell them you simply dpnt want another eris because all the others didn't work. Keep at them, get a little angry, threaten to leave the network, and if all else fails, ask to speak to a supervisor.
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I think I got the only good one
Going on 10 months with the same Eris. And I have beat the hell out of it. Broke the digitizer and performed open-eris surgery.
My wife's Eris had a bad trackball after 6 months. VZW replaced and has been good ever since.
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Only issue is the trackball for me, and if i push down to the bottom right of it the TB works fine. Other than that, she has been a champ.
11 months for me, though mine has started to act very strange and has stopped doing some things.
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Well, I called Verizon today because the GPS module must have been bad. It was their signal that something was wrong when I couldn't boot the phone into safe mode, so I should be getting my Incredible tomorrow! It's been good guys... sort of lol
I have had the phone since November last year and beat the living hell out of it and it still works, I have a 4 and 2yo at home and they love to play with daddy's phone
newell23 said:
I have had the phone since November last year and beat the living hell out of it and it still works, I have a 4 and 2yo at home and they love to play with daddy's phone
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Same boat here. Got it day one and its still awesome. Didnt root til july cause i be scared, lol. My kids love playing games and looking at photos. Im glad i didnt jump ship and get a fascinate. As long as we have ppl like Punk Kaos and others putting out awesome roms ill stay with the eris!!!!! KGB!!!!!
i'm surprised they're still replacing erises with erises. You'd think they'd run out and have to give dincs out instead.
As long as there's Windex, there'll be "new" old Eris's!
wierdo124 said:
i'm surprised they're still replacing erises with erises. You'd think they'd run out and have to give dincs out instead.
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So am I. It took a lot of pushing for me to get them to give me an Incredible. Like I said, the fact my Eris didn't go into safe mode helped, but also the first rep I got just simply didn't want to deal with me, so instead of forwarding me to their supervisor they bounced me to another rep. I actually wasn't angry with them at all - I was being downright polite.
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So am I. It took a lot of pushing for me to get them to give me an Incredible. Like I said, the fact my Eris didn't go into safe mode helped, but also the first rep I got just simply didn't want to deal with me, so instead of forwarding me to their supervisor they bounced me to another rep. I actually wasn't angry with them at all - I was being downright polite.
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Same, that is the key! Be polite to the rep, but be pissed at the phone. Also, if you dont need to send your eris back, (I didn't as they just offered me an early upgrade), be sure to send it in for the 132 credit!
mech_egr said:
Same, that is the key! Be polite to the rep, but be pissed at the phone. Also, if you dont need to send your eris back, (I didn't as they just offered me an early upgrade), be sure to send it in for the 132 credit!
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That is a good point. Remember you are talking to a human and you can voice being upset without being rude. That goes a long way

[Q] Can someone explain the steps to getting a free replacement?

I've just become aware of the new replacement program for problem Fascinates. I've been reading the forums but it wasn't completely clear EXACTLY what i need to do in order to be offered a replacement. I bought my Fascinate on eBay like 3 months ago (pre-rooted with a Blackhole ROM i believe) and while i do like it, it does have it's share of issues. i get the phantom button press a lot, GPS is VERY slow to lock at times, i occasionally get random voicemails from calls i didn't know i missed, my screen timeout setting is constantly changing back to 15 secs when i set it to 2 minutes, and MMS rarely works.
so yea, from what i've read so far, it seems like i'm prime for a replacement. but i need to know first off, do i need to flash a stock rom or will it not matter? will i need to take it in and prove it's not working because it only has these issues sometimes and i may not be able to replicate on the spot? also what exactly do i need to say (and who do i call) in order to prompt them to offer me a new device? thanks in advance for the help and i apologize if this is explained somewhere already. i've looked and it just seems to mostly be people talking about their new phones and not how they actually got them.
1. Go to Walmart.
2. Buy knee pads and lip gloss.
3. Go to Verizon.
4. Put on knee pads and a good amount of lip gloss.
5. By now you should know where this is going.
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1. Go to Walmart.
2. Buy knee pads and lip gloss.
3. Go to Verizon.
4. Put on knee pads and a good amount of lip gloss.
5. By now you should know where this is going.
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seriously, i would like to know how to get this free upgrade.
Just act stupid and say your phone doesnt work right and yes u should change everythin to stock couz root voids your warranty. But sometimes they still replace even if i did it. But change back to be safe
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You may have a problem because you didn't get the phone directly from vzw & they can find that out. Also, they're getting hammered right now with people trying everything to get this deal whether they need it or not. Seems like they're becoming a little more stringent with their criteria. But I think the real problem for you is where you got the phone.
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B1gC72 said:
seriously, i would like to know how to get this free upgrade.
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Ugh! I hope you get nothing. vzw knows YOU didn't buy the phone from them.
good day.
I wish I could tell you good news, but I've been down this road before. My hub bought a phone off ebay and found out something was wrong with it that same day it came in the mail. He went to Verizon and asked them if they could do anything and they said since he bought it from ebay they can't do anything. They are going to look into your account and know that you didn't get it from them, so I don't think you have any hopes at all getting it replaced.
You could however flash it back to stock and try...if you don't succeed...keep it stock and put it back on ebay. The fassy's are still selling for quite a bit and use that to purchase new phone.
well thanks for all the help. some people seem really offended but the only reason i even asked is because people on other forums said they traded in their eBay Fascinates and got the deal. i don't know if the warranty is transferable or not, but it's still been out less than a year and should be covered. also, there is no way they can tell i bought it on eBay either. the most they should be able to see is when i activated it and maybe track the ESN back to the original owner, still doesn't say i bought it on eBay. i didn't buy it directly from Verizon but the guy i bought it from did. people were even having success with phones bought from Best Buy.
You don't understand.... It's people like you taking advantage that makes it harder than it needs to be for people actually having problems and honestly want to return the phone...
It's people like you also who everyone thinks badly of in there heads and in the IRC xD
And you really don't think they can't tell where you bought it?
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chopper the dog said:
Ugh! I hope you get nothing. vzw knows YOU didn't buy the phone from them.
good day.
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Do you think it only has to be from an authorized retailer? I bought mine from Best Buy and they never even asked me where I got my phone. So maybe they can somehow tell if it was either bought from them OR an authorized dealer OR maybe the reps that I worked with didn't care.
They probably won't be doing swaps anymore because ED05 is official and ready.
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They probably won't be doing swaps anymore because ED05 is official and ready.
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For sure the swap ended yesterday due to the new ED05 update. Right now, they're only offering replacement Fassys. I was however, able to talk them to giving me an early upgrade for the trouble since I REALLY hate this phone. Better than nothing, and they were real cool.
trailblazer101 said:
You don't understand.... It's people like you taking advantage that makes it harder than it needs to be for people actually having problems and honestly want to return the phone...
It's people like you also who everyone thinks badly of in there heads and in the IRC xD
And you really don't think they can't tell where you bought it?
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i understand perfectly. and don't you think your being a little extreme? it's not like my phone doesn't have issues. it WAS bought from Verizon and it has a warranty. so I didn't personally buy it from Verizon but what the hell difference does it make? if it's messing up and under warranty, they should fix it or give me a replacement. did you even read my original post? i said what was wrong with the phone so it's not like i'm making stuff up, i just wanted to know what they were listening for in order to qualify for the upgrade replacement since i have more than one issue. don't make me out to be the bad guy, read on other forums where people are just saying they have issues to get the upgrade when their phones work fine. i even saw one story where a store manager encouraged someone to say they were missing calls to get a Charge for free when the guy said he was saving money to replace his Fascinate. so it really falls on the reps to do their jobs anyway since they are supposed to actually check for issues, so isn't it their fault if they don't? i ended up not even calling anyway, so get off your high horse guy.
and no, i don't think they can tell where i bought it. they can most likely tell where it was originally purchased and see when and where it was activated and deactivated but how can they possibly know more than that? stop spreading propaganda.
call vzw and tell them the problem and theyll tell you if you are eligible for one
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fordee11 said:
call vzw and tell them the problem and theyll tell you if you are eligible for one
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i'll probably just wait for a new ROM based on the latest update now if that actually fixes the issues. sure the allure of a new device is intriguing (especially if it's free), but i don't dislike the phone, i just want it to work like it's supposed to.
trailblazer101 said:
You don't understand.... It's people like you taking advantage that makes it harder than it needs to be for people actually having problems and honestly want to return the phone...
It's people like you also who everyone thinks badly of in there heads and in the IRC xD
And you really don't think they can't tell where you bought it?
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I love the holier than thou forum white knights. I swear you relative moralists leave no forum untouched with your auto-ego stroking.
Listen, everyone who owns a Fascinate and went through the OTA update process had the same issue with missed calls and texts. Furthermore, even custom ROMs (CM7 included) experienced this issue. Until now, there was no work around and not everyone is an XDA daily driver and knows that ED05 has been released. We all went through the exact same run around waiting for Froyo, I know I for one wasn't about to sit back and wait for this release to be pushed back 4-5 times. I took the free upgrade and I don't feel the least bit bad about it. I even posted the script that worked for me on the first try, because at the time ED05 had no firm release date and I feel like everyone pumping out $200 for a phone and $100+ a month deserves a product that won't cause them huge issues like the Fascinate caused for me. I lost thousands in sales because I missed calls and the Google Voice missed notification wouldn't show up for 15-20 minutes.
Bottom line is, don't try to crucify everyone that asks for help with this situation. Odds are they don't know about ED05 being released and they probably don't trust Samsung to get an update out on time because they never have. The only reason this one came so fast is because Verizon/Samsung were losing their asses on replacement costs.
TLDR: Don't be a ****.
B1gC72 said:
i'll probably just wait for a new ROM based on the latest update now if that actually fixes the issues. sure the allure of a new device is intriguing (especially if it's free), but i don't dislike the phone, i just want it to work like it's supposed to.
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+1 and I also would enjoy the better camera and front facing as well.
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Tell them you lost it somewhere where there is a high volume of people coming and going i.e the mall, hospital etc. if you have insurance on your phone you should be able to get a new one
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If you think you can call Verizon and say your phone is defective and expect them to send you something different then it wont happen.
1. You bought the phone off eBay, thus you no longer have a one year manufacture warranty.
2. Without the manufacture warranty they cant send you a replacement phone.
3. Your best option is to see if you have an upgrade or go through your insurance and see what kind of phone they will send you. You never know sometimes they send you UPGRADED phones!
To the people WHO ACTUALLY GOT THERE PHONE THROUGH VERIZON. If you are within a year and your phone is "defective" then you can call them and make it clear that you have done a full factory reset and everything you try doesn't work. They will then send you a replacement, it might be the same phone or you might get lucky and get an upgraded phone.
I work for Verizon and I've had customers come in with a Droid and manufacture sent them a Droid Three.

Process of warranty replacement

Hello guys, so a couple weeks ago I noticed my screen had a dead pixel on it. Unfortunately I didn't have the time to deal with Verizon then but now I do and I just have a few questions for those of you who have gotten warranty replacements.
-What numbers should I have ready before calling them.
-Is it still possible for me to do this even though I'm not the account owner.
-What's the actual process of getting a new phone, do they send a new one out and I send in the broken one or the opposite.
Thanks guys
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You need to be an authorized user on the account or the account owner. You just call them and tell them your problem. You don't need any numbers ready just the phone number for the phone. They will send you a replacement phone with a return package. You send your broken phone back to them.
All done.
Ok cool thanks now to deal with the fun that is customer support Yay. Thanks man :-D
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Unless it is REALLY bad, IE multiple dead pixels, I personally wouldn't replace it. I've had many miserable experiences with with "CLNR's", if you're outside the 14 days, I would keep it. You can do what you want, of course. But chances are, given my many experiences, you will have something equally worse with the phone you get in return.
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Unless it is REALLY bad, IE multiple dead pixels, I personally wouldn't replace it. I've had many miserable experiences with with "CLNR's", if you're outside the 14 days, I would keep it. You can do what you want, of course. But chances are, given my many experiences, you will have something equally worse with the phone you get in return.
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I had to go through 3 Rezounds for my fiance before getting the current one. The first one had some issue where the screen would flicker. Second one would get EXTREMELY hot. Third one is working fine right now.
Cares said:
I had to go through 3 Rezounds for my fiance before getting the current one. The first one had some issue where the screen would flicker. Second one would get EXTREMELY hot. Third one is working fine right now.
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Exactly, so I would say that a dead pixel is the best of the possible issues OP could have. I personally wouldn't return mine over that.
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Exactly, so I would say that a dead pixel is the best of the possible issues OP could have. I personally wouldn't return mine over that.
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But you could keep returning until you get something you like...if you're okay with the hassle that is...

Anyone had GOOD luck with a refurb/warranty?

Just wondering if anyone is actually happy with their replacement phone. I've been dealing with minor issues where my side buttons stick sometimes and don't always work properly. Apparently this is common on Sammy.
I love my phone to death and can deal with it if it means getting a junk refurb. But I'm still under the manufacturers warranty, so I'm kind of torn on what to do.
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Just wondering if anyone is actually happy with their replacement phone. I've been dealing with minor issues where my side buttons stick sometimes and don't always work properly. Apparently this is common on Sammy.
I love my phone to death and can deal with it if it means getting a junk refurb. But I'm still under the manufacturers warranty, so I'm kind of torn on what to do.
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I actually recently just got a replacement a week ago. Bottom left portion of the screen was cracked and I dealt with it for a couple months and was undecided about wanting to get a refurb but I decided to. The replacement came and it didn't say it was a refurb anywhere and has been working perfectly, able to overclock and everything. Have no issues with it whatsoever, maybe I'm just lucky but I'd say go for it. You get to keep your battery from your old one so that's a plus but my zero lemon is plenty. Haha it's your call
I got a warranty replacement due to my phone stopped charging. I don't have any issues with it. No defects in appearance, no weird problems, able to "jailbreak" first try. Also, as a few select people love to claim that there are issues with the headphone jack on every warranty replacement, not mine.
I will say that things do happen and there is a chance you might get a bad one. Then you just have them send you another. Just don't be like the weirdo that kept sending them in and was up to like 35 or something like that.
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Got mine replaced twice, both replacements have been fine other than the glass seems to be really weak.
The refurbs I have got with past devices have been fine, like new.
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Im on my 7th since april and finally happy lol. Any minor defect I don't play with, I paid way too much for this phone
worked for me
A couple of months ago I had mine replaced. The phone wasn't charging and when plugged in it seemed kinda loose. Whether it was my fault or not they sent me a refurbished one and I've had zero issues with it. This one even seems to have a better grip of the plug than my brand new one. If you can get it replaced, do it. I've always been someone who makes excuses for not calling verizon to fix the problem and I always end up paying for it. Literally
Thanks for all the replies everyone. I know worst case scenario is I have to sent it back again, but I certainly don't want to have to do it multiple times. Which is the reason I'm holding off in the first place. It's really only the power button that is giving me the most problems. But again thanks for the input at least I'll have a little piece of mind if I do decide to send it back.
I have gotten 5+ refurbs from Verizon and have Never had an issue. They all come looking 100% new and don't have any cracks/blemushes/scratches. I probably got lucky to get so many perfect ones but that is just my experience.
I recently had to warranty my phone because of a bad head phone jack. The first replacement I got couldn't keep track of time properly so I had to send it back. The next one worked perfectly.
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