If I switch back to stock and download the OTA will I lose root? If so I'm assuming if I re-root the way I did the first time I would be just canceling out the update. Would that be correct?
Sounds like you are rooted now. I would not doing anything. In the past I would let the update drop and not take it. It's only a matter of time before someone pulls what is needed from the official update and applies it to a rom. I feel it's just easier that way. You keep root and don't loose the freedom of trying new roms.
The ota has been out. The only difference is it is official and not leaked. Most, if not all the devs have updated their roms with the newer verision. If you download a signed ruu you will lose root, and there is no sure thing that the exploit has changed, thus making the older root process still usable.
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Is leak 3 the same as the ota update that was released? If not can someone tell me how to update from v3 to OTA
next time just search but here is the explanation:
technically they are the same thing except the OTA has a different bootloader from v3 and that means you CANNOT root the v3 (believe me i have tried and almost bricked my phone).
ALSO if you are on v3 you CANNOT upgrade to the OTA manually because it your phone will recognize it as a downgrade because it has all the same files except for the bootloader even though it is a different file.
On the other hand when Froyo comes out (if it comes out for the droid eris) you probably will be able to upgrade to that but that will be a long ways away. So sadly you're stuck with v3 right now.
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next time just search but here is the explanation:
technically they are the same thing except the OTA has a different bootloader from v3 and that means you CANNOT root the v3 (believe me i have tried and almost bricked my phone).
ALSO if you are on v3 you CANNOT upgrade to the OTA manually because it your phone will recognize it as a downgrade because it has all the same files except for the bootloader even though it is a different file.
On the other hand when Froyo comes out (if it comes out for the droid eris) you probably will be able to upgrade to that but that will be a long ways away. So sadly you're stuck with v3 right now.
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Thanks for not bombing me simple answer
My Friend has leak 3 and well we wanted to make sure its the same thing...
is it possible to hack the bootloader?
Man. Im glad I was patient. I was tempted to leak before root came out. But I was sold on root and ota. Ota didn't come out quick enough so I had decided to go with root. It's just more flexible to go that route anyway. And theoretically you can unroot if you flash the downgrade to 1.5 Rom and jump on to 2.1 Ota. But with root you can always keep your options open. Well if you have insurance, you can always get a replacement when you lose it, and root that.
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Quick question(s).
1) What steps do I take to throw my phone to completely stock (Im running bamf 1.6.3) in order to receive the OTA properly?
2) Any new news on when gingerbread is coming out for the tbolt?
I do have a nand of stock root on my phone, so after I restore that (if thats what i should do) how to i remove root so i can get gingerbread OTA correctly?
As for the reason I'm wanting to do this is because I want to try out the stock gingerbread and I don't like to upgrade android without an OTA, once I get sick of it I will be re-rooting it.
markalyea2 said:
Quick question(s).
1) What steps do I take to throw my phone to completely stock (Im running bamf 1.6.3) in order to receive the OTA properly?
2) Any new news on when gingerbread is coming out for the tbolt?
I do have a nand of stock root on my phone, so after I restore that (if thats what i should do) how to i remove root so i can get gingerbread OTA correctly?
As for the reason I'm wanting to do this is because I want to try out the stock gingerbread and I don't like to upgrade android without an OTA, once I get sick of it I will be re-rooting it.
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Ota won't roll out for a couple weeks. There's a thread to get you back to security on. I think it's in general.
I'm not really sure what is to be gained by un-rooting, doing the ota update, then rooting again. Other than DRM stuff while you are not rooted (google vids, blockbuster, etc).
I'm sure the stock GB ROM with root will be available here before the OTA upgrades start, certainly no later.
Of course it's your preference, I'm just curious.
markalyea2 said:
Quick question(s).
1) What steps do I take to throw my phone to completely stock (Im running bamf 1.6.3) in order to receive the OTA properly?
2) Any new news on when gingerbread is coming out for the tbolt?
I do have a nand of stock root on my phone, so after I restore that (if thats what i should do) how to i remove root so i can get gingerbread OTA correctly?
As for the reason I'm wanting to do this is because I want to try out the stock gingerbread and I don't like to upgrade android without an OTA, once I get sick of it I will be re-rooting it.
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1) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1009423 will get you back to where you're looking to go.
2) ETA on the OTA is all rumor and speculation but the latest rumor and speculation is end of June. I think someone has concrete info from Verizon that said sometime in 2nd qtr but that's a pretty broad spectrum.
*Usually the OTA leaks before it's actually pushed out by Verizon and we get to play with it for awhile before the rest of the world sees it (it shows up in development.) The MR1 is a good example of that...it was a carbon copy of the leak (and the nand root that you have.) I know it's completely your decision but you'll probably be able to run the OTA for awhile before it actually gets pushed out by Verizon if you stay rooted. You just have to wait for the devs to say it's ready to go for rooted phones (which is usually right after th leak hits the light of day.)
I am on my second Atrix. I updated the first OTA to .91. I didn't initially care for it, but only tried it for a day or so. Exchanged phone for another problem under 30 day return. New phone downloaded OTA. Rooted to pull off OTA zip to stop update reminders.
I've searched the numerous threads about updating various .91 builds and betas. However, I'm not sure if I can just flash the ATT OTA that i've pulled off in a way that doesn't lock the bootloader to make it difficult to go back to .83. I would think the official .91 would not have problems like i've been hearing with the other builds and betas, or having to go through the trouble of applying a bunch of fixes and patches.
Basically I want to try .91 again without a lot of fuss with the ability to go back to the stock .83 if I really don't like it.
Simple question and hopefully different from all the other "It's here!", "Where are our ROM" threads..
I upgraded (if you can call it that) to the Galaxy Nexus literally like a week ago and deactivated my TB but it remains rooted.
Anyone know if there are dangers trying to activate it rooted with the intent to unroot, wait for the OTA, just in the hopes it will sell for more.
Or would you recommend unrooting then activating and then waiting for the OTA?
Hopefully you understand the question. I had the impression from a friend that if I tried to re-activate with root, it would red flag me for modified software. Thanks in advance.
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Simple question and hopefully different from all the other "It's here!", "Where are our ROM" threads..
I upgraded (if you can call it that) to the Galaxy Nexus literally like a week ago and deactivated my TB but it remains rooted.
Anyone know if there are dangers trying to activate it rooted with the intent to unroot, wait for the OTA, just in the hopes it will sell for more.
Or would you recommend unrooting then activating and then waiting for the OTA?
Hopefully you understand the question. I had the impression from a friend that if I tried to re-activate with root, it would red flag me for modified software. Thanks in advance.
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The stock rooted roms are posted on the Infected forums if you just want to flash the stock rooted ICS.
OR, you could unroot and flash the OTA, but doing so I believe will upgrade your hboot, so you'll have to wait a bit until get the s-off on the new hboot.
Either way, I'm sure it'll be all squared away in the next couple of weeks.
Personally, if it were me, I would unroot and go OTA. Fly around completely stock for a while on your phone. I did that when 605.19 came out and I was actually surprised how well it performed being completely stock (battery life aside). But that didn't last long for me--I rooted it pretty shortly after.
Also, I'm not sure if you'd be red-flagged for trying to update OTA from root. I mean the worst that could happen is the update won't go through, and more likely, the update will go through, but will completely remove root and s-off.
Don't take the OTA expecting to reroot!
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The stock rooted roms are posted on the Infected forums if you just want to flash the stock rooted ICS.
OR, you could unroot and flash the OTA, but doing so I believe will upgrade your hboot, so you'll have to wait a bit until get the s-off on the new hboot.
Either way, I'm sure it'll be all squared away in the next couple of weeks.
Personally, if it were me, I would unroot and go OTA. Fly around completely stock for a while on your phone. I did that when 605.19 came out and I was actually surprised how well it performed being completely stock (battery life aside). But that didn't last long for me--I rooted it pretty shortly after.
Also, I'm not sure if you'd be red-flagged for trying to update OTA from root. I mean the worst that could happen is the update won't go through, and more likely, the update will go through, but will completely remove root and s-off.
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There may not be a "re-root" after you take the new hboot!!!!
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!!
I've been saying this and not enough people are listening and stuck not being able to root again.
I know one person even trying to work on the hboot right now and his device will no longer boot, so think again before taking the OTA.
It's up to you and doesn't effect me either way, just a few words of advice if you will.
Maybe this will change and another miracle as big as this release will happen and an exploit will be found on a 2 year old device with less then a handful of devs even looking at it.
This could change, but right now I would not count on it.
I took the update unrooted but still had revolutionary's hboot. I can confirm that the hboot was not overwritten by the new one.
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Didn't realize there was a thread about this already lol. My bad.
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Seems there is a LOT of revert to stock and unroot threads, is there a consolidated place or simple means of doing this? I think I'm going to undo everything I did and just her activate it stock. If she *****es down the road about not having root (unlikely), I'll worry about it then.
Thanks guys.
Hi everyone. Im real good with tech but i cant find anyone having asked...
I want to go buy the S4 and I will definitely root it (following the posted instructions on here) but before i do, will i be able to instal OTA updates after and if not, is there another way id be able to install updates? I used Voodoo rootkeeper on my tablet after rooting and the 1st ota went fine and kept root, the 2nd ota killed the root even while using Voodoo...
Please, any any all responses asap appreciated. I want to get the phone asap as i am tired of my rooted Bionic.
Thank all.
bobstone said:
Hi everyone. Im real good with tech but i cant find anyone having asked...
I want to go buy the S4 and I will definitely root it (following the posted instructions on here) but before i do, will i be able to instal OTA updates after and if not, is there another way id be able to install updates? I used Voodoo rootkeeper on my tablet after rooting and the 1st ota went fine and kept root, the 2nd ota killed the root even while using Voodoo...
Please, any any all responses asap appreciated. I want to get the phone asap as i am tired of my rooted Bionic.
Thank all.
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Just wait for a rooted stock ROM based on the OTA to be made by a dev. You never NEED to take an OTA.
Thanks but im not sure what you mean. I have no interest in loading custom roms nor over-screwing around with the phone. Do you mean wait for another root process or wait for a download for an ota update?
Thanks again
Im guessing you mean a rom will be released again after the ota is out with the ota integrated in it... That process makes me kind of nervous as i need my phone for work as well as personal and cant risk screwing up the phone or erasing data eta...
There is pretty much always someone that releases the stock ROM flashable in a custom recovery so you can have a rooted stock ROM. Look at the dev beanstownm106 ROM in the development section. It is basically the stock ROM rooted with some very minor tweaks, but flashable with a custom recovery like TWRP.
BUT...there is almost never anything you can't do with basically any ROM that you can do with the stock ROM. So you really don't need the stock ROM...some people just prefer it. For my old Thunderbolt, it was pretty well known that for a long time there was a custom ROM, very similar to the stock ROM, that was more stable than stock (SkyRaider Zeus).
Another BUT: if you need Good for work, prepare for a constant fight with root detection. And you will want to back up your data often. I have a BB for work that I leave untouched (its not mine).
One more thing...the Loki workaround has its advantages...the bootloader is still locked and untouched, so it would be pretty hard to brick the device because you can get back into download mode and use odin to flash back to factory.
Whats the loki workaround? Also, im dont want to be doing any kind of flashing... I just simply want to root the s4 (which i now have) and be able to run ota updates or if not, download the ota and install the update manually. And if i get an ota, if it will kill root, even if i run voodoo.
Please, if someone could, let us all know if ota wont run or will kill root on say the s3 or s4 and if downloadable updates are another option... without flashing anything or going to crazy.
Thanks again in advance.