New mini and mini pro!!!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShtWcsof3Rk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS6XOoTobVw
I hope you guys make a custom rom for this one also
Specs Xperia mini/mini pro
Androidversion Android 2.3.3
Screen 3,0 inch
Screenresolution 320 x 480 (HVGA) 16,777,216 color TFT
Touchscreen Capacitive
Keyboard Virtueel (Mini pro qwerty)
Processor 1 GHz
ROM memory 320 MB
RAM memory 512 MB
Memoryslot microSD
Wi-fi 802.11b/g/n
USB microUSB v2.0
Bluetooth Yes, 2.1 met FTP/OPP en A2DP
Hoofdtelefoon 3.5 mm audio jack
GPS Yes
Kompas ?
Accelerometer Yes
Gyroscoop No
NFC-chip No
Camera 5 megapixel with auto focus (rear camera)
Video 720p HD video recording
Flash Yes, LED flash
Battery 1200 mAh
Size 88 x 52 x 16 mm (Mini pro 92 x 53 x 18 mm)
Weight 94 gram (Mini pro 136 gram)
Phone memory up to 400MB
SWADED said:
New mini and mini pro!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShtWcsof3Rk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS6XOoTobVw
I hope you guys make a custom rom for this one also
Specs Xperia mini/mini pro
Androidversion Android 2.3.3
Screen 3,0 inch
Screenresolution 320 x 480 (HVGA) 16,777,216 color TFT
Touchscreen Capacitive
Keyboard Virtueel (Mini pro qwerty)
Processor 1 GHz
ROM memory 320 MB
RAM memory 512 MB
Memoryslot microSD
Wi-fi 802.11b/g/n
USB microUSB v2.0
Bluetooth Yes, 2.1 met FTP/OPP en A2DP
Hoofdtelefoon 3.5 mm audio jack
GPS Yes
Kompas ?
Accelerometer Yes
Gyroscoop No
NFC-chip No
Camera 5 megapixel with auto focus (rear camera)
Video 720p HD video recording
Flash Yes, LED flash
Battery 1200 mAh
Size 88 x 52 x 16 mm (Mini pro 92 x 53 x 18 mm)
Weight 94 gram (Mini pro 136 gram)
Phone memory up to 400MB
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Rly awesome... multitouch included ?
yep, they support multitouch
you can see google maps with dual touch in this video
youtube.com/watch?v=AS6XOoTobVw (at 6:50)
and here's another little video showing the two phones
youtube.com/watch?v=ShtWcsof3Rk
Recon we could get this ported??
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Wait for a dump of the roms. They are not out yet. I hope for gingerbread camera library to be compatible :-D
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Just port the rom from the new mini to our minis and ill be happy
Same here.....
just saw it today:
the final version of the new xperia mini pro has a front facing camera
and a hard tempered 4 point multitouch glass screen
Wouldit be worrth buying the new mini pro, regardless of theprice?
In doubt but I guess not
- Front camera, I dont care about it, I never use videocall also not for skype. costs much battery probably anyway
- BAttery boost, curious how long it will last now.
- android 2.3, we have it already (thx devs )
- snapdragon processor. Doesnt matter, our mini pro is already blazingly fast!!
- Design, I like the new one! new keyboard layout, looking at the pictures. symbols moved to left, 4 arrow keys to the right seems nice. Aside from homescreen/backbutton etc, pretty much teh same
- Multitouch, we already have it! But I'm curious how it works on the new one. It's quite difficult to handle now in some apps i.e. google maps.
Maybe I'm missing some hot items here, but as far as I can see now, no need to switch! Although its an awesome phone I think!
dsgamer1224 said:
Maybe I'm missing some hot items here, but as far as I can see now, no need to switch! Although its an awesome phone I think!
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How about:
- Bigger and better screen
- Higher resolution
- Record video in HD
nah. regular users dont need an "improvement" like that. compared to the iphone 1 to 4. the just add additional features.. a liitle.
its gonna take an year more to reach the price what the old mini are selling for...
and not to forget... I would personally want the battery replacement. maybe that fits my mini
new pro looks sweet as
ya, i like the mini pro a lot as well, too bad it does not have exmor r mobile, i may consider getting it to replace my current mini once it's available
Battery Life and price
These will be the two factors to take into consideration. In just about every other aspect, the mini pro 2 looks like a winner.
Wonder how much power the new CPU will consume vs. the old one. Interestingly enough, from what I've read, the new CPU is an older design, ARM7, and higher frequency, as well as more powerful GPU. My guess is it'll be more power hungry.
I think a 1200 mAh battery is still a bit short on capacity for the current Mini Pro, wonder how the new one will do given that it will be more power hungry.
If I'm wrong about the CPU specs please enlighten me.
Mike
dsgamer1224 said:
- snapdragon processor. Doesnt matter, our mini pro is already blazingly fast!!
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True but, no matter how fast the X10 Mini Pro can get, it will never run apps that require ARMv7, meaning no native Flash support for example. Though that's less of an issue for some people, I'd personally love to have full Flash support on my Mini, Flash videos only with Skyfire, having to switch between Skyfire, Opera Mobile and the Youtube app doesn't quite cut it.
panamamike said:
These will be the two factors to take into consideration. In just about every other aspect, the mini pro 2 looks like a winner.
Wonder how much power the new CPU will consume vs. the old one. Interestingly enough, from what I've read, the new CPU is an older design, ARM7, and higher frequency, as well as more powerful GPU. My guess is it'll be more power hungry.
I think a 1200 mAh battery is still a bit short on capacity for the current Mini Pro, wonder how the new one will do given that it will be more power hungry.
If I'm wrong about the CPU specs please enlighten me.
Mike
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Let's hope your wrong, I'm def. gonna get the new mini pro unless it drains like this one I really don`t care about the speed anyway..
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With the new MP - it's basically the phone we all want now.
2.3 will be running properly with all features and functions working correctly and be vastly more stable. (eg Camera functions and ANT+)
We should have the unlocked bootloader should we wish to use it.
We'll get Flash.
I'll be getting one ASAP as it fulfils my requirements perfectly - something which the current MP doesn't quite, even with all the modules and hacks available.
It's announced on official Sony Ericsson site
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Hello mates,
I want one favour from you all good people here. I have sold out my HTC wildfire and planning to buy a mini st15i.
So basically I require some information before purchasing, like the length of the phone, battery back up, Armv6 or Armv7, gaming experience, music quality, etc.
However I have kept my eye on Zte Blade also but will probably go for mini st15i.
Also how are the experiences of rooting ,custom roms and modifications.
Please reply and give your valuable suggestions.
Regards
Shiv
Length of mini would be shorter than X8, but the screen is same size with X8 and multi-touch(max 4 touches), and also thicker than X8.
Battery see your usage, as my record on testing my Xperia mini maximum battery life is 2 days++.
This phone got a ARMv7 processor which is Qualcomm MSM8255, and also got Adreno 205 GPU as while..
Although I'm not so free to play game, but it can play heavy game such as SHADOWGUN.
Music quality still OK, and It got a 5MP camera, and also 720p HD video recording and playback.
About rooting if u get a .62 firmware Xperia mini, u must downgrade to .42 firmware via flashtool, getting root and update to .62 firmware via OTA update
Xperia mini is Qualcomm Snapdragon QSD8250, MSM8255 is Xperia mini pro...
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sss2sssss said:
Length of mini would be shorter than X8, but the screen is same size with X8 and multi-touch(max 4 touches), and also thicker than X8.
Battery see your usage, as my record on testing my Xperia mini maximum battery life is 2 days++.
This phone got a ARMv7 processor which is Qualcomm MSM8255, and also got Adreno 205 GPU as while..
Although I'm not so free to play game, but it can play heavy game such as SHADOWGUN.
Music quality still OK, and It got a 5MP camera, and also 720p HD video recording and playback.
About rooting if u get a .62 firmware Xperia mini, u must downgrade to .42 firmware via flashtool, getting root and update to .62 firmware via OTA update
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Xperia mini is Qualcomm Snapdragon QSD8250, not MSM8255, MSM8255 is Xperia mini pro...
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Personally after owning the LWW for three months I would take the Blade any day. I like the hardware, But the screen is way to small for me. I had a Galaxy Ace before hand and despite how slow it was I would take it back.. Something about Sony's UI I just don't like! I have CM7 currently installed on my LWW, It makes the phone so much better, But the battery life is really poor unfortunately .
What spec. does the Blade have in your country? I know in the UK we have the 7227 600mhz/512mb ram which is quite poor now a days..
It's all up to you however
AlvinZahran98 said:
Xperia mini is Qualcomm Snapdragon QSD8250, not MSM8255, MSM8255 is Xperia mini pro...
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But if is QSD8250, is Adreno 200 onboard...
if is MSM8255, is Adreno 205 onboard, and Xperia mini got a Adreno 205 GPU wor...
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But if is QSD8250, is Adreno 200 onboard...
if is MSM8255, is Adreno 205 onboard, and Xperia mini got a Adreno 205 GPU wor...
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Is the QSD8250 not the X10i? Because the Desire has one too? :s
I thought all 2011 Xperias' had the MSM8255?
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And also inform of QSD8250 and MSM8255:
QSD8250:http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a8250&c=qualcomm_snapdragon_qsd8250
MSM8255:http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a8255&c=qualcomm_snapdragon_msm8255
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Jamielawther said:
Is the QSD8250 not the X10i? Because the Desire has one too? :s
I thought all 2011 Xperias' had the MSM8255?
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Ya, I think someone make mistake...lol
Visit www.phonearena.com . You'll find everything you want there. The only problem is its speakers. Speakers are incapable. And every other thing is just great. Personal idea.
I think so haha!
Thanks to all of you..Now I am very much confused because of the two phones I have personally visited the local store and have seen the mini. Its very much small in size than wildfire and blade is almost the same looking device but having a poor CPU strength.
I dont like to play more games on cell. I love to play videos from youtube and online movies. So 600 Mhz and 200 adreno GPU would be capable to satisfy the needs?
Shiv Prajapati said:
Thanks to all of you..Now I am very much confused because of the two phones I have personally visited the local store and have seen the mini. Its very much small in size than wildfire and blade is almost the same looking device but having a poor CPU strength.
I dont like to play more games on cell. I love to play videos from youtube and online movies. So 600 Mhz and 200 adreno GPU would be capable to satisfy the needs?
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But it would only can watch 480p video and no Adobe flash player support
Shiv Prajapati said:
Thanks to all of you..Now I am very much confused because of the two phones I have personally visited the local store and have seen the mini. Its very much small in size than wildfire and blade is almost the same looking device but having a poor CPU strength.
I dont like to play more games on cell. I love to play videos from youtube and online movies. So 600 Mhz and 200 adreno GPU would be capable to satisfy the needs?
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CPU isn't just for playing games, phone breathes by CPU. Anyway, CPU is the most important thing in a phone; the choice is yours my friend.
Hi geeks,
checkout this wiki for general information around the new Exynos dual core
http://www.arndaleboard.org/wiki/index.php/Resources
Of course this file might be of special interest...
BTW:
This document is marked as confidential but it's public available.
So Mike, if this is against rules... tell me!
Best regards,
scholbert
Antutu benchmark of Nexus 10
http://www.antutu.com/view.shtml?id=2960
Quite impressive because antutu depends much on the number of cores and clockrate rather than architechture (1.5 Ghz Snapdragon S3 got ~6600 while 1.4 Ghz Exynos 4210 on GNote had only ~6300)
And the NAND flash is pretty good too, 16.6MB/s write and >50 MB/s read (in fact my Note 2 has 200 point in SD card read with the mark >50 MB/s too, but this one is 10% faster)
I would love to see one of those fancy graphics comparing the Nexus10 performance with "the others".
We know that it's better but how much better?
And if you want more specs, here's two other benchmarks:
SunSpider:
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If anyone is interested in the Antutu scores across the Nexus 4, 7 and 10 devices I've cut'n'paste them together from the Antutu site linked above...
These results are as recorded by Antutu himself at these links...
Nexus 10 - http://www.antutu.com/view.shtml?id=2960
Nexus 7 - http://www.antutu.com/view.shtml?id=1282
Nexus 4 - http://www.antutu.com/view.shtml?id=2940
The 3D and 2D scores on the Nexus 10 keeps up with the other two devices which seems quite impressive considering the higher resolution.
Keitaro said:
If anyone is interested in the Antutu scores across the Nexus 4, 7 and 10 devices I've cut'n'paste them together from the Antutu site linked above...
These results are as recorded by Antutu himself at these links...
Nexus 10 - http://www.antutu.com/view.shtml?id=2960
Nexus 7 - http://www.antutu.com/view.shtml?id=1282
Nexus 4 - http://www.antutu.com/view.shtml?id=2940
The 3D and 2D scores on the Nexus 10 keeps up with the other two devices which seems quite impressive considering the higher resolution.
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Odd, why is the CPU on the Nexus 10 slower than the others? I thought that the A15 was supposed to be the fastest thing on the market right now, which would go nicely with the fastest GPU (Mali 604 or whatever it is).
Also, Scumbag Antutu forces the tablet into portrait. I would love it if Google could somehow force apps to run in landscape, apps should never be in portrait on a 16:10 tablet this big unless I deem it so by orienting it in portrait.
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Kookas said:
Odd, why is the CPU on the Nexus 10 slower than the others? I thought that the A15 was supposed to be the fastest thing on the market right now, which would go nicely with the fastest GPU (Mali 604 or whatever it is).
Also, Scumbag Antutu forces the tablet into portrait. I would love it if Google could somehow force apps to run in landscape, apps should never be in portrait on a 16:10 tablet this big unless I deem it so by orienting it in portrait.
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Need to keep in mind that the N10 is running at a MUCH larger resolution, that most likely has something to do with it. Had the processor been on the same device as the 4 and 7 you would see a substantial difference.
tkoreaper said:
Need to keep in mind that the N10 is running at a MUCH larger resolution, that most likely has something to do with it. Had the processor been on the same device as the 4 and 7 you would see a substantial difference.
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But I wouldn't expect the load of that higher res to go to the CPU, just the GPU (so 2D and 3D scores). Does the CPU get involved in video processing in SoCs?
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Does the Nexus label mean that all drivers for this device will be open source? As in, none of the BS that the devs for the i777 are experiencing with Samsung completely unwilling to release specs for the Exynos/Mali combo in that device?
EDIT: Answered my own question. The AOSP site itself tells you to go get the blobs for specific devices if you want to build. So no. Ah well, my concern would be fully functional OS updates, and the Nexus label DOES solve that - at least for a couple of years after release.
These I/O results look promising. A lot better then the transformer prime I had.
While it's nice to see numbers and you should always take them with a grain of salt (for obvious reasons). I for one am just going to wait till I have my Nexus 10 in my hands and see how she flies. I have no doubts that it will run todays apps with no issues and last you easily for a year +. I for one am drooling over the display (esp if non-pentile). Just hope Samsung did something to address the possiblity of pixel fatigue and ghosting/image retention.
Kookas said:
Odd, why is the CPU on the Nexus 10 slower than the others? I thought that the A15 was supposed to be the fastest thing on the market right now, which would go nicely with the fastest GPU (Mali 604 or whatever it is).
Also, Scumbag Antutu forces the tablet into portrait. I would love it if Google could somehow force apps to run in landscape, apps should never be in portrait on a 16:10 tablet this big unless I deem it so by orienting it in portrait.
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Because it's ANTUTU benchmark. As I said in #2, Antutu always prefer number of cores and frequency of cores rather than the architechture.
That's why the Crapdragon S3 1.5 GHz having higher score than 1.4 GHz Exynos 4210 in GNote.
hung2900 said:
Because it's ANTUTU benchmark. As I said in #2, Antutu always prefer number of cores and frequency of cores rather than the architechture.
That's why the Crapdragon S3 1.5 GHz having higher score than 1.4 GHz Exynos 4210 in GNote.
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What are you talking about. The snapdragon is a better architecture with less cores. You have it backwards.
Edit: thought you meant snapdragon s4.
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Here are the benchmarks from Anand's review of Chromebook:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6422/samsung-chromebook-xe303-review-testing-arms-cortex-a15/6
I am almost sure that the N10 will be better optimized compared to Chromebook purely because of the resources dedicated for Android. Also shows that Samsung is still Google's preferred partner in terms of hardware.
zetsumeikuro said:
While it's nice to see numbers and you should always take them with a grain of salt (for obvious reasons). I for one am just going to wait till I have my Nexus 10 in my hands and see how she flies. I have no doubts that it will run todays apps with no issues and last you easily for a year +. I for one am drooling over the display (esp if non-pentile). Just hope Samsung did something to address the possiblity of pixel fatigue and ghosting/image retention.
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It's not an AMOLED display, it's a Super PLS (LCD), isn't it?
blackhand1001 said:
What are you talking about. The snapdragon is a better architecture with less cores. You have it backwards.
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Do a research man! You can searxh how sh.t crapdragon s3 msm 8660 compared to exynos 4210 in the same galaxy note (US variant vs int variant)
philos64 said:
And if you want more specs, here's two other benchmarks:
SunSpider:
GLBenchmark:
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That sun spider score is bad vs the chrome book must be the resolution which is high for even high end PCs.
The epic screen was always going to eat most of the resources, the question is: whatever benchmark the final (and in future surely improved) SW version produces, is it enough for smooth operation? That answer will most likely be yes. Chromebook shows huge HW potential, but it's also more optimized at this moment, patience my lads.
The hardware has the potential
Hi Guys,
Came across this while researching Exynos 5250. Looks like the hardware is very capable to handle the WQXGA resolution with memory bandwidth and power to spare. This white paper also mentions the support for 1080p 60fps wireless display. So I hope Miracast will be reality as well, just Google needs to step up and utilize the hardware to its full potential. Its an interesting read none the less..
Sorry, can not post links yet.. replace _ with . and then try.
www_samsung_com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/Exynos/data/ Enjoy_the_Ultimate_WQXGA_Solution_with_Exynos_5_Dual_WP.pdf
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oneguy7 said:
Hi Guys,
Came across this while researching Exynos 5250. Looks like the hardware is very capable to handle the WQXGA resolution with memory bandwidth and power to spare. This white paper also mentions the support for 1080p 60fps wireless display. So I hope Miracast will be reality as well, just Google needs to step up and utilize the hardware to its full potential. Its an interesting read none the less..
Sorry, can not post links yet.. replace _ with . and then try.
www_samsung_com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/Exynos/data/ Enjoy_the_Ultimate_WQXGA_Solution_with_Exynos_5_Dual_WP.pdf
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If the link does not work, google exynos 5 dual white paper.
I ran Quadrant and compared the results with those of my old Epic 4g.
Epic 4g Graphics (3d) score is 1666. N10 Graphics (3d) score is 2087. See below.
Epic 4g, rooted, FC09 MTD deodexed, Shadow kernel io/cpu=deadline/ondemand
Nexus 10, not rooted
Hey Guys I wanna know your opinion
Do you think that the Xperia J is a good upgrade, currently I am using the X10.
Does anyone of you own the J and can compare a bit?
From the Hardware it has more ram (512mb), the battery is a bit better (1750mah), the Screen has beautiful 16M colors and the same dimensions as X10's.
Tests say that the battery life is awsome and the camera is bad :/
So now, what do you think?
Is it a good upgrade from the X10?
Best Greets
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AW: from Xperia X10 to Xperia J?
Buy a xperia P it costs only 249€ euro
Xperia J costs 209 € euro
So only 40 euro diffrent ..
Sorry for my English xD
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AW: from Xperia X10 to Xperia J?
Thanks, I also thought about it but I do not like the design
No Xperia P for me.
Greets
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On March 18 there is an announcement in Russian which may be the release of some new phones or at least the announcement of them.
There is an XPERIA L with some parallels to the XPERIA P and along the same lines as the XPERIA X10i (but more powerful)
The XPERIA L is claimed to have a 1GHz Snapdragon dual-core processor, Adreno 305 GPU, 4.3-inch display with resolution of 854 x 480, 8GB of internal storage (expandable via microSD), an 8-megapixel rear camera with Exmor RS sensor and a 1700 mAh battery. Dimensions are said to be 128.7mm x 65mm x 9.7mm.
keenofhiphop said:
Hey Guys I wanna know your opinion
Do you think that the Xperia J is a good upgrade, currently I am using the X10.
Does anyone of you own the J and can compare a bit?
From the Hardware it has more ram (512mb), the battery is a bit better (1750mah), the Screen has beautiful 16M colors and the same dimensions as X10's.
Tests say that the battery life is awsome and the camera is bad :/
So now, what do you think?
Is it a good upgrade from the X10?
Best Greets
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For what usages do you wanna buy a new phone? I mean gaming , music , camera, battery, blah blah , which one is more important?
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AW: from Xperia X10 to Xperia J?
Thank you very much for your opinions
This Xperia L sounds very good, I will wait if there is an annoumcement
May be the perfect one, even if there are no infornation about RAM, what is personally important for me (i mean 1 ghz is enough, but ram should be at least 512mb, better 1gb ) so it gonna be better than Xperia J for sure.
I do not need a phone for gaming, it is just that my x10 is getting older and older and the battery doesnt least long enough. So i dont want a superphone
Best Greets
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Sony XPERIA L
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Android: 4.1.2
Size: 128.7 x 65 x 9.7 mm
Weight: 137g
Screen: 4.3" (854 x 480px)
Processor: 1GHz Dual-Core MSM8230
GPU: Not listed but MSM8230 indicates an Adreno 305
RAM: 1GB
Storage: ~5GB internal and MicroSD card.
Camera: 8MP with front VGA camera
Bluetooth: 4.0
NFC: Yes
MHL: Yes
WiFi 2.4/5GHz 150Mbit/s includes WiFi-Direct and Miracast
Battery: 1750mAh replaceable
So, that's one OP sorted then. :fingers-crossed:
Reviews do note some slight camera and application startup lag. But we are talking about what is today a low end Android phone and not a Sony flagship as the XPERIA X10i was in it's day.
But ignoring what reviewers say, the XPERIA L looks like a pretty tight(Good) little package. Sweet.
AW: from Xperia X10 to Xperia J?
thank you it looks awsome
my favourite!!!
it looks fine, I ll look at price and decide if its worth it as sony phones always have a premium price
I wouldnt say its lowend... its more middle class, xperia J is lowend. However it is promising
Greets
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AW: from Xperia X10 to Xperia J?
But the Xperia SP looks even better!!! that is my new phone undervolt to ine ghz and batterylife forever!
I love it. Boom
Best Greets
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keenofhiphop said:
I wouldnt say its lowend... its more middle class, xperia J is lowend. However it is promising
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True, but maybe this is the Sony 2013 entry level phone now. So maybe there is no 'low-end' Sony 2013 phone, maybe it's just good, better and best from now on. You go Sony :laugh:
Maybe 2012 was the swan song for the Sony single-core processor phone. The XPERIA J would have struggled with anything beyond a communications device[Me thinks]. Visual media may have been a bit challenging on the XPERIA J with an Adreno 200 even if it was the advanced version, as the XPERIA J does parallel the XPERIA X10i very closely.
Based on the specs of the MSM8230 in the XPERIA L there is potential for it to be over-clocked to 1.2GHz.
I'm still smitten with the XPERIA L as even with a 1750mAh battery, the small screen and processor may be able to collectively pull some good battery hours when rooted and SetCPU profiles are used to 'model' screen off and CPU governors and etc.
And to have NFC, WiFi-Direct/Miracast (2.4GHz/5GHz WiFi) and from indications, a good GPU in the form of the Adreno 305 as well as all the rest, the XPERIA L gives a good rounded package.
Mind you the XPERIA SP is tempting with it's "BLING" factor and higher specs.
I have the Xperia L now by the way
my mom has the xperia SP and it is not so much better in my eyes. it is bigger and fatter. and the screen and rocessor really seem to save some battery.
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NEW Xperia ray 3
around September 12
4.35 inch HD screen WhiteMagic
Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 2.3GHz Snapdragon processor
Battery 2500Mah
2 GB Ram
32 GB memory, memory card support
Camera sensor size large, 20Mpx, equipped with Carl Zeiss optics, xenon can have Flash
Xperia Dogo / Xperia C670X / Xperia C680X „Honami“ / Xperia „Ray 3“
http://sonyviet.vn/
If that's the size of the screen they should name it something else and release something a tad smaller, or just update the HW and FW of the old Ray and re-release it.
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NEW Xperia ray 3
around September 12
4.35 inch HD screen WhiteMagic
Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 2.3GHz Snapdragon processor
Battery 2500Mah
2 GB Ram
32 GB memory, memory card support
Camera sensor size large, 20Mpx, equipped with Carl Zeiss optics, xenon can have Flash
Xperia Dogo / Xperia C670X / Xperia C680X „Honami“ / Xperia „Ray 3“
http://sonyviet.vn/
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Vietnamese???
Yes.
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i have no idea what they are all doing.
Im looking for phone with 4gb memory plus card support , about 3.8 screen , camera max to 8mpix and 1gb ram. It will be best phone in cheap price.
But they need to pack all the stuff into that all.
2gb ram?? no android, even miui wont use it.
phone ok but with price they will want for it will be to big and not much persons will buy it.
if it all is true
now Im stoping spaming
Who wouldn't want this? I was disappointed it didn't show up sooner. It looks plastic and not as high end as the z1. I hope that at least translates to removable battery. Theres something cool about a small phone with that much power. "Phenomenal Cosmic Power, itty-bitty living space."
would be great but,why ray 3 while there is no ray 2?
there is no such thing.and the pics are fake.but im proud of Xperia Ray cuz it so good that we allways hear this fake news.i wish there would be really another ray.but this phone will remain a legend.
The Honami Mini has similar specs ....
http://www.unwiredview.com/2013/09/...honami-mini-to-arrive-in-the-next-few-months/
Yea nice pics really stange thing xperia ray 3 have 2gb ram and amazing cpu but running stock android 2.3 yea amazing...
sogukk said:
would be great but,why ray 3 while there is no ray 2?
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yes, why?
AbaiiFunk said:
yes, why?
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Ray 2 is Xperia SX
Ainster said:
Yea nice pics really stange thing xperia ray 3 have 2gb ram and amazing cpu but running stock android 2.3 yea amazing...
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Well, you always can install custom rom.
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Well, you always can install custom rom.
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Thing about what are you say so big specifications and sony will create old 2.3 android for this phone ?
Rumours about RK3399 chipset from Rockchip have swept over the internet, and we seem to be barely a soundbite apart from it. Promised to rival the quarter-century old way we think about TV BOX, Vorke has included the RK3399-powered Z3 in its ambitious plans. Next February is expected to mark the birth of the revolutionary gadget.
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Adopting Rockchip RK3399, Vorke Z3 is about to outperform almost all of its competitors in market. Unveiled at CES 2016, RK3399 is a Hexa Core processor based on Dual-core ARM Cortex-A72 MPCore and Quad-core ARM Cortex-A53 MPCore framework paired with Mali-T860MP4 Quad CoreGPU. Reportedly, it is about to offer a significant performance boost against its predecessors, including RK3288, outranking SoCs from Amlogic and Allwinner. Scored 72483 in Antutu, What a madness!
Unlike other contenders, z3 offers a staggering free storage of 4GB LPDDR3, 32GB of EMMC to back up your TV entertainment, so that you can use it right out of the box. Along side the storage, its worth to point out that Vorke brings together compelling KODI entertainment center and RK3399`s insane 4K image quality into one nifty box. The joining of the Soc conduces to its support for H.265 and VP9 4K video decoding.
One of the problems with any android box comes to that it entails optimal internet connection and speed to stream the bandwidth hogging that video can take. In account of this, Z3 equips itself with AC wifi, the newest WiFi protocol and has a high speed data transfer speed up-to 1200Mbps under some circumstances. Besides, the support for Gigabit Ethernet is admittedly an afterthought.
When it comes to extension possibilities, there is no prospect of compromise. With 1 USB 2.0 , 1 USB3.0, 1 Type-C and 1 SATA placed at the sides, Z3 enables you to attach USB peripherals or even more storage. The aforementioned Type C port is another highlight in Android 6.0 box, and when you factor in the sheer number of connections on Z3, you begin to realize why it is a little bit bigger than Z1. With support for SATA, USB 2.0, USB 3.0, Gigabit Ethernet, SPDIF, HDMI 2.0, there are few devices you won’t be able to connect to the device.
What to Expect?
Rockchip RK3399
Android 6.0
4GB + 32GB
AC WIFI + Gigabit Ethernet
4K VP9
USB3.0, Type C and SATA interface
Just got confirmation that my Z1 is supposed to arrive in 3-5 days .......... So any idea what the price will be on this puppy the Z3???? When it will launch??? Antu score is badasszz .
How much was your Z1?
I;m guessing the Z3 will be about 40% t0 50% dearer.
Z1 in some webshops is US$ 120 - I'd expect the Z3 to be about $160-180
It looks like a decent unit - but also look around here, Antutu is NOT a reliable bench to quote.
Some have reported a Xperia z3 (if my memory serves me) as doing 71000 in Antutu, others say it should be about 50k.
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How much was your Z1?
I;m guessing the Z3 will be about 40% t0 50% dearer.
Z1 in some webshops is US$ 120 - I'd expect the Z3 to be about $160-180
It looks like a decent unit - but also look around here, Antutu is NOT a reliable bench to quote.
Some have reported a Xperia z3 (if my memory serves me) as doing 71000 in Antutu, others say it should be about 50k.
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Z1 is on sale at $74.99 .
Z3 is expected to twice the price of Z3.
We will take on CPU Z .
Some devices did some optimizations on Antutu Benchmark, so that they score pretty high.
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Z1 is on sale at $74.99 .
Z3 is expected to twice the price of Z3.
We will take on CPU Z .
Some devices did some optimizations on Antutu Benchmark, so that they score pretty high.
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I had an email from Vorke, they say "under $200".. so i replied, "Hopefully under $150 as well" hahah! Hope it's not too dear!
What about that 3DMark bench, firestorm (or is it firestrike)... that seems to be a decent test, but it's mainly gpu, isn't it?
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I had an email from Vorke, they say "under $200".. so i replied, "Hopefully under $150 as well" hahah! Hope it's not too dear!
What about that 3DMark bench, firestorm (or is it firestrike)... that seems to be a decent test, but it's mainly gpu, isn't it?
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We will check :fingers-crossed:
As a slight sideways jump - I notice its competitor boxes both have heats sink + fan listed in specs - does anyone know if the Vorke is using active cooling?
I think I was right in a different forum's post - maybe the RK chip runs a little hotter than passive cooling can deal with?
So got my Z1 here in No.VA Mon. 16 ordered Jan. 5 at geekbuying. After three days pretty happy. Games I haven't been able to play because of bricked MINIX X8-H, & not being able to root MiBox so PS3 SIXAXIS controller could work run flawlessly on Z1 . Showbox runs smooth ,YouTube,kodi 16.1, Antu 3D score no tweeks 41723. Jide has crowd funded Rockchip 3399 TV box for March or May ,USD $ 99-129
I don't trust a company that need kick-starter/crowd funding to develop a device - they smell like "fly by nighters" to me... produce the device, rake in some dosh, run like buggery when people start to complain or what tech support.
That Mio/MixIO whatever it's called... US$129 on kick-starter... mope, zero trust...
Two things I like about Vorke - they exist as a company, self-funded development... and they responded to my silly queries; pre-sales support suggest good after sales support.
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I don't trust a company that need kick-starter/crowd funding to develop a device - they smell like "fly by nighters" to me... produce the device, rake in some dosh, run like buggery when people start to complain or what tech support.
That Mio/MixIO whatever it's called... US$129 on kick-starter... mope, zero trust...
Two things I like about Vorke - they exist as a company, self-funded development... and they responded to my silly queries; pre-sales support suggest good after sales support.
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Just out of interest, I found a US site with a price for the UGOOS UT5 (basically the same as the Vorke Z3) -- $349!!!
What an absolute joke - you could buy a half decent laptop and use that as a TV box, FFS!
I guess that pointless little AMOLED display add to the price.
Still, early days, it might just be a place-holder price.
Edit - why did that double post? Weird.
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Just out of interest, I found a US site with a price for the UGOOS UT5 (basically the same as the Vorke Z3) -- $349!!!
What an absolute joke - you could buy a half decent laptop and use that as a TV box, FFS!
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I agree. What's more I realy don't know what is all the fuss about RK3399? When for more than a year there is Amazon Fire TV available with MediaTek SoC MT8173 ([email protected] + [email protected]).
Maybe this is not so good forum to discuss that because MediaTek isn't fond of open source but people preffer working solution than one which you must fiddle all the time to make it work for a while .
Yes - but the AmFireTV or sort of locked, isn't it - own UI, low customisation, Amazon bias (understandable).
I've heard that the Vorke will be completely unlocked, rooted, open... maybe...
Anyway, the specs say different:
Qualcomm Snapdragon 8064 Quad Core 4x @ 1.7Ghz Qualcomm Adreno 320
MediaTek 8173C Quad Core 2x @ 2GHz & 2x @ 1.6Ghz GPU PowerVR Rogue GX6250
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Neither of those will match the RK3399, and the Mali 850mp4 is a very good SoC GPU. Not "superb" or "the best2, but certainly good enough to nearly everything.
I do NOT like Antutu as a benchmark (it's heavily biased to certain chips) but the AFTV gets 53K while the RK3399 gets 73K
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I do NOT like Antutu as a benchmark (it's heavily biased to certain chips) but the AFTV gets 53K while the RK3399 gets 73K
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I would be more impressed if my RK3288 device couldn't do 62k in Antutu. AFAIK Antutu is quite strongly GPU biased which might indicate that RK3399 GPU is slower than RK3288 or there are problems with drivers.
Besides I preffer "clear" CPU benchmarks which can give me indication of Internet browsing performance. When I did some research about MT8173 more than year ago I found something like browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/compare/939975?baseline=1646914. (Note: Nexus 9 is spoofed identity of my RK3288 device). Then I was quite pleased with that performance improvement but devices with MT8173 came only with 2GB RAM which is to small amount for me. Even so RK3399 isn't realy more impressive to me than MT8173 (check: browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/compare/939975?baseline=993600) and we are more than a year after.
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Just out of interest, I found a US site with a price for the UGOOS UT5 (basically the same as the Vorke Z3) -- $349!!!
What an absolute joke - you could buy a half decent laptop and use that as a TV box, FFS!
I guess that pointless little AMOLED display add to the price.
Still, early days, it might just be a place-holder price.
Edit - why did that double post? Weird.
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Ugoos is a trusted brand.
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I would be more impressed if my RK3288 device couldn't do 70k Antutu score already. AFAIK Antutu is quite strongly GPU biased which might indicate that RK3399 GPU is slower than RK3288 or there are problems with drivers.
Besides I preffer "clear" CPU benchmarks which can give me indication of Internet browsing performance. When I did some research about MT8173 more than year ago I found something like browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/compare/939975?baseline=1646914. (Note: Nexus 9 is spoofed identity of my RK3288 device). Then I was quite pleased with that performance improvement but devices with MT8173 came only with 2GB RAM which is to small amount for me. Even so RK3399 isn't realy more impressive to me than MT8173 (check: browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/compare/939975?baseline=993600) and we are more than a year after.
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We will try other benchmarks also. Recommend one please
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We will try other benchmarks also. Recommend one please
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I overestimated a little Antutu score for my RK3288 device which should be 62k not 70k. Nevertheless I would realy like to see Vellamo and Octane benchmarks scores for RK3399.
My RK3288 device can do about 4800 points with Chrome in Vellamo.
Geekbench v4 score for RK3399 is rather well known. You can brag only if you beat 1600 single- and 3000 multi-core score . browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/993600
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I'm not disputing that - they have a good track record... but that doesn't stop $349 being too high for this device. And I give them mucho-credit for NOT trying to effing kickstarter the device!
But the amoled screen is really a non-item - what's the point, a TV box is stuck under the TV table; I don't even look at mine, just use it...
And what can a little screen show anyway apart from time or some form of channel display? Any more info would mean you;d have to get down on the floor, closer to it, to read it!
An amoled screen is perhaps $50 of that $150 over pricing ($200 is all I'd be paying for this spec TV box - for $350 you can get a full i7 with intel 520 gpu (400 GFlops) TV Box! The Mali gpu in the RK3399 is rated at about 90 GFLops.
It smells like a gimmick to make it stand out from the other 3 or 4 RK3399 boxes coming.
So I'm less knocking Ugoos themselves and more knocking their "vision" of the yet-to-come TV Box.
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Geekbench 1520 and 2840 isn't too bad - just 160 lower than that magical 3000 isn't to be sniffed at.
Mind you, even Geekbench can be misleading - GB 3 gives over 5300 for the Samsumng Galaxy Tab S2 9.7 (Qualcomm SoC). (some reviews say 4300, 4800, 5300 (rounded off))
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An amoled screen is perhaps $50 of that $150 over pricing
It smells like a gimmick to make it stand out from the other 3 or 4 RK3399 boxes coming.
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It might be a gimmic to make it stand out but yours estimation of the cost of such display is quite off. First. It isn't AMOLED display like in smartphones. Second it dosen't have similar size (5" 16:9 proportion).
I've seen OLED displays on MP3 players devices with prices lower than 30$.
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Geekbench 1520 and 2840 isn't too bad - just 160 lower than that magical 3000 isn't to be sniffed at.
Mind you, even Geekbench can be misleading - GB 3 gives over 5300 for the Samsumng Galaxy Tab S2 9.7 (Qualcomm SoC). (some reviews say 4300, 4800, 5300 (rounded off))
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3000 is just a number for multicore Geekbench v4 score which heavily depends from number of them. Even mentioned by you Qualcom SoC (MSM8976) in New Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 9.7 can get over 5000 points in Geekbench v3 with 8 cores (4xA57 + 4xA53) working simultanously (Source: http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/compare/4803220?baseline=5849462). That doesn't necessary translate to better performance than even just 2xA73.
Another problem when comparing benchmarks is that some devices contains different hardware than previous "batches". Like new (Qualcomm MSM8976) and "old" Galaxy Tab S2 9.7 (Samsung Exynos 5433 Octa).
Another factor is used benchmarking software and OS. There is clear example: http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/compare/4803220?baseline=5849462 when one test is for older design and with 32bit OS rather than with 64bit (AArch64). I don't want even start about overheating problems which might be per device variable.
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It might be a gimmic to make it stand out but yours estimation of the cost of such display is quite off. First. It isn't AMOLED display like in smartphones. Second it dosen't have similar size (5" 16:9 proportion).
I've seen OLED displays on MP3 players devices with prices lower than 30$.
3000 is just a number for multicore Geekbench v4 score which heavily depends from number of them. Even mentioned by you Qualcom SoC (MSM8976) in New Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 9.7 can get over 5000 points in Geekbench v3 with 8 cores (4xA57 + 4xA53) working simultanously (Source: http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/compare/4803220?baseline=5849462). That doesn't necessary translate to better performance than even just 2xA73.
Another problem when comparing benchmarks is that some devices contains different hardware than previous "batches". Like new (Qualcomm MSM8976) and "old" Galaxy Tab S2 9.7 (Samsung Exynos 5433 Octa).
Another factor is used benchmarking software and OS. There is clear example: http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/compare/4803220?baseline=5849462 when one test is for older design and with 32bit OS rather than with 64bit (AArch64). I don't want even start about overheating problems which might be per device variable.
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Oh, I agree on the guesstimate - I have no real idea what an oled screen costs - your $30 is probably more valid than my $50 - but that make it worse, not better.
What else is there to make this over $150 more than the other RK3399 boxes - "under $200" stated by Vorke, $115 pre-sale price foe another, and so on.
It MIGHT be a "place holder" number - but it's working against them... I'm not going back to look see what the release price is, the $349 has put me off... especially if it's a "state a high price then a release over-price will sound better".
That's a marketing con, really - you state $349 before release then drop it to a still-too-high $299 or $259 after release and people will flock to it thinking they're getting a great deal. (Not saying they're doing it that way)
But the other RK3399 boxes? £115 pre-release, expected to be £140 after; Vokre has stated to me, in email, "definitely under $200".
And i FULLY agree with you about the benchies.
Perhaps the better benchies are the real-world ones... game FPS -- 5.2 for one SoC, 14.8 for another, 25.7 for a third, and so on.
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Still - I'm liking this 6 core box... it's better than almost everything I've looked at - allowing for the Tegra devices that are semi-locked (heavily controlled launchers and biased "features" (understandable, of course, like the Amazon devices).