I use my phone for 5 basic things: Talking, Texting, E-mails, some Browsing and WiFi and Bluetooth Tethering.
I am on Android 2.1 and rooted my device so I could get WiFi Tethering. All is fine but not enough. I also use an Archos 70 tablet, which won't accept Ad-Hoc communication and will only Tether through Bluetooth, which leads me to the fact that I will need to change the ROM.
I am very pleased with the Sense UI and the stock ROM, and would like to replace it with a ROM that would be similar but allow me to set up a wireless BT infrastructure network/ PAN with my Archos 70. Which is all I am actually missing/ need.
I have searched and read many, many posts, but none address in full my needs/ expectations. I see some ROMs that would seem to get close, but I also notice that some need patching, or not all is functional.
I just want a very close to Stock ROM with Sense UI but with Bluetooth Tethering through PAN.
Based on the above expectations and you user experince, I would sincerely appreciate your guidance and recomendation of which in your opinion would be the ROM to best address my needs.
Thank you very much in advance.
PS: Although I don't use it much, I would also like to preserve the capability to use my GPS. Thanks...
I'm not familiar with some of the acronyms you've used. What do you mean when you say "PAN"?
From what I can tell, it sounds like gene poole's liberated 2.2.2 rom is what you're looking for. He should be releasing a new version soon, I suggest waiting for it.
Hi ECEXCURSION,
Thanks for your reply. PAN stands for Personal Area Network which as I understand it is the profile which in BlueTooth allows for the type of connection I need.
I'll have a look at your suggestion.
Cheers,
Stormglider said:
I use my phone for 5 basic things: Talking, Texting, E-mails, some Browsing and WiFi and Bluetooth Tethering.
I am on Android 2.1 and rooted my device so I could get WiFi Tethering. All is fine but not enough. I also use an Archos 70 tablet, which won't accept Ad-Hoc communication and will only Tether through Bluetooth, which leads me to the fact that I will need to change the ROM.
I am very pleased with the Sense UI and the stock ROM, and would like to replace it with a ROM that would be similar but allow me to set up a wireless BT infrastructure network/ PAN with my Archos 70. Which is all I am actually missing/ need.
I have searched and read many, many posts, but none address in full my needs/ expectations. I see some ROMs that would seem to get close, but I also notice that some need patching, or not all is functional.
I just want a very close to Stock ROM with Sense UI but with Bluetooth Tethering through PAN.
Based on the above expectations and you user experince, I would sincerely appreciate your guidance and recomendation of which in your opinion would be the ROM to best address my needs.
Thank you very much in advance.
PS: Although I don't use it much, I would also like to preserve the capability to use my GPS. Thanks...
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To my knowledge, none of the Aria ROMs I have used have BT PAN profile as a service that is available. I am currently running CM 7.0.3 which is Gingerbread and it does not have BT PAN and I believe the the HTC Sense ROMs didn't have them either. Since most of the Aria ROMs have had a Wifi hotspot capability, that has been the preferred choice for sharing the Aria's Internet connection with devices. BT would be slower.
You should install one of the Froyo (Android 2.2) Sense ROMs. They will retain virtually an identical look to the Aria's stock ROM, but will allow you to use the built-in wifi hotspot support that Android added in Froyo (i.e., not a third party app). Android's implementation can create a true wifi hotspot (not ad-hoc), which should work with your ARCHOS tablet.
Your best choice is probably FR008 or Liberated 2.2.2 -- the latter is a newer version of Android but unfortunately has the AT&T notification message that is very annoying.
Hi Drumist,
Thank you for taking the time to respond. Much appreciated. It looks like I will incline myself for the Liberated 2.2.2. which I believe is about to receive an update so as not to have to patch the same.
However I would like to ask what is referred to by the "AT&T notification mesage"? I've seen this comment in other posts, but can't relate to it. Could be because I am on an Argenine network?
Thanks again,
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Hi Drumist,
Thank you for taking the time to respond. Much appreciated. It looks like I will incline myself for the Liberated 2.2.2. which I believe is about to receive an update so as not to have to patch the same.
However I would like to ask what is referred to by the "AT&T notification mesage"? I've seen this comment in other posts, but can't relate to it. Could be because I am on an Argenine network?
Thanks again,
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Yeah, actually now that you mention it, someone else who used Liberated 2.2.2 on a different network said they didn't get that message either. I guess they designed it to only show up for people on the AT&T network. So I guess that is good news for you -- that's really the only major issue with the ROM that I'm aware of.
Sounds great! Thanks again!
Although I appreciate people helping each other, threads like these in the development section are not what development is for. Try General.
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Hiya
Have tried a few 2.1 roms based on Eris but none of the ones I've tried seem to have the internet sharing functionality enabled? In 1.5 it used to be in Wireless setting / mobile network settings. I can't see to find it - have tried HeroDroid, BeHoro and Villain roms, in vain.
I need it desperately - as i dont want to pay £££ for expensive hotel wifi..!
thanks
There are a couple of 3rd party tethering apps that are supposed to work with the 2.1 roms: Wireless Tether and aNetShare.
hyriand said:
There are a couple of 3rd party tethering apps that are supposed to work with the 2.1 roms: Wireless Tether and aNetShare.
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Thanks hyriand - I noticed these apps while doing a search on these forum, but since the internet sharing is supposed to work "out of the box" on android I am puzzled as to why it's not activated.
Anyone knows whether it is because 2.1 no longer supports internet sharing out of the box?
nforsans said:
Thanks hyriand - I noticed these apps while doing a search on these forum, but since the internet sharing is supposed to work "out of the box" on android I am puzzled as to why it's not activated.
Anyone knows whether it is because 2.1 no longer supports internet sharing out of the box?
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That depend on your provider, Google give them such option, but they'll decide whether they'll give it to you. And I think little provider will like the idea. See AT&T taken the internet sharing apps out of Apple apps shop? You should be glad you have third party apps to choose from.
BTW, internet sharing provided by google require a cable. Both wifi tether and aNetshare work through wifi, which is, in my opinion, quite convenient.
thanks a lot
nforsans said:
Thanks hyriand - I noticed these apps while doing a search on these forum, but since the internet sharing is supposed to work "out of the box" on android I am puzzled as to why it's not activated.
Anyone knows whether it is because 2.1 no longer supports internet sharing out of the box?
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The 2.1 ROM we currently have is a port from a Verizon Droid Eris, and it is probable that Verizon had specifically disabled the tethering options in their version of the ROM.
I'd expect a generic GSM Hero release to include mobile internet sharing as standard.
Regard,
Dave
thx a lot it explains why it doesn't appear in the settings at all.
Dear Members, I have searched and read several threads on this, but don't seem to find the exact answer I am looking for. I have an unlocked HTC Aria (AT&T Branded) currently running on Android 2.1. I am not particularly interested in changing the ROM as the phone does what I need (Calls, Messages, E-Mails, and Web Browsing). However I would like to also be able to do BlueTooth Tethering over to an Archos 70 IT tablet that I use for all the rest. I notice that the apps that would do this, all require ROOT. My question is, if I can ROOT my phone ONLY in order t be able to install any of these BT Tethering Apps? Do I still have to install a ROM, or will ROOTING not affect anything else?
I appreciate you comments and any suggestions that you might have.
Thank you very much.
No you can root and leave the stock rom in place.
Sent from my Liberty using XDA App
Thanks mtnlion!
Ok! So I rooted my device and installed WIFI Tethering. The program does start on my Aria and the wi-fi signal is picked up by my notebook, however it shows limited connectivity (basically no internet). Unless someone has any feedback, I would now assume that it is an issue of my phone not connecting to the network, however I have tried the web browser on my phone and it does work, I also tried BT Tethering but both devices will show "paired but not connected", and can't get passed this step, so any comments again will be much appreciated.
Thanks again,
Stormglider said:
Ok! So I rooted my device and installed WIFI Tethering. The program does start on my Aria and the wi-fi signal is picked up by my notebook, however it shows limited connectivity (basically no internet). Unless someone has any feedback, I would now assume that it is an issue of my phone not connecting to the network, however I have tried the web browser on my phone and it does work, I also tried BT Tethering but both devices will show "paired but not connected", and can't get passed this step, so any comments again will be much appreciated.
Thanks again,
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Don't know if this thread might help or not.
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Thanks cHarley04,
I finally flashed Liberated 2.2.2. and it does exactly wht I was looking for!
Cheers,
Hello, been a member for a while, and this question should probably reflect on my level of technical know how, cause, if i use CyanogenMod on my sg2, i am able, to use root wifi tether, to tether the internet data on my htc hero, to my sg2, so I can use internet on my sg2, however if i use any of the other roms, have tried nearly all the 2.3.4,as well as the 2.3.3 roms, with no luck. With the other roms, i am able to connect, to my home broadband wifi router, but when it comes to my htc hero, only CyanogenMod works, any ideas, is there some extra software required for this to work with other roms. Thanks.
marvi0 said:
Hello, been a member for a while, and this question should probably reflect on my level of technical know how, cause, if i use CyanogenMod on my sg2, i am able, to use root wifi tether, to tether the internet data on my htc hero, to my sg2, so I can use internet on my sg2, however if i use any of the other roms, have tried nearly all the 2.3.4,as well as the 2.3.3 roms, with no luck. With the other roms, i am able to connect, to my home broadband wifi router, but when it comes to my htc hero, only CyanogenMod works, any ideas, is there some extra software required for this to work with other roms. Thanks.
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Sorry anyone please?
With the sim in my phone, I get the net on my phone.
If I put my sim into my tablet, I could get the net (if the touchpad had 3g).
But if I try to use the phone as a wifi hotspot, the carrier knows the data is being shared, and blocks it. How does it know?
Am now wondering whether any of the apps to share the connection - eg over Bluetooth - would be the same or not. Must try it out.
Find it very puzzling (until the carrier told me that I could share the data connection over a wifi hotspot on my phone... if I agreed to pay them more money)...
apologies, thought would be of interest to users, appreciate developers are above stuff like that..its why i posted in the general forum. i did search but didnt find the relevant thread. this isnt a very friendly forum for users, i have noticed a few threads that interest people being attacked.
What method are you using for mobile hotspot? Phone, ROM, app, etc.
so far only tried android's own wifi hotspot feature on htc wildfire with 2.2 froyo
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so far only tried android's own wifi hotspot feature on htc wildfire with 2.2 froyo
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I have ran into problems using wifi tethering methods with Verizon in the US. When I tried to tether, I would get a page in the browser, on the device Im trying to get connection on, of verizon saying if you want to tether, you have to pay for it. Something along those lines. If the wildfire puts out an adhoc connection, most tethering apps wont show up on the TouchPad since it does not support that type of connection. The one app I have tried successfully is PDAnet in the play store. I have installed CM7 and CM9 on my phone and both built in option works with the TouchPad without the carrier noticing. Have you ever tried installing a different ROM on your phone. I dont know whats available for your phone.
EDIT: Sorry, If you're phone only goes up to froyo, I guess CM7 and CM9 are out of the question. But there may be others.
interesting. am going to try pdanet and will let u know
badfelafel said:
interesting. am going to try pdanet and will let u know
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Just know, you need two apps. "PdaNet Tablet" on the TouchPad and I forget the name of the app for the phone. I think it tells you on the tablet app when you start it.
EDIT: Just read you need the phone version of PdaNet or another app called Foxfi on your phone.
ace9988 said:
why do you click it and then decide to post what you have....its the general section. if you're solely interested in development then here's the link HP Touchpad Development
I'm not too sure how the carrier finds out, maybe larger number of data packets compared to data being received by the phone (regardless of desktop sites being requested).
I see that you're with Orange, and if they follow the same rules as T-mobile following their merger, then they don't fine you for going over your allowance, they just limit your usage to off peak hours....then a warning...then disconnection of your data service. Only phonecalls and texts.
I know this because I totally rinsed the allowance in 2 hours after my wifi went down and I had work related files to download.
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there are many ways that mobile device is different from a pc
minutes differences in the way packets are sent/created/received/acknowledged differ from os to os, not to mention hardware
obvious one are mac addressing (easy to spoof but you can usually tell if the mac is a pc or mobile based)
User Agents as was mentioned, although this not a all defining as browser apps can spoof this
and im sure there many more, all of these create a system fingerprint that makes you different from all the other devices on the operators network
chicle_11 said:
Don't you get tired of having your posts deleted for rude and insulting content? As a poster above mentioned, why don't you confine yourself to the development section? Probably because the devs won't put up with your behavior there. Please refrain yourself from posting rudely.
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while i agree it was rude, this shouldn't have been posted here, it should have been posted on the general wildfire sub forum as this does not particularly pertain to any problems that have been encountered on the touchpad
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there are many ways that mobile device is different from a pc
minutes differences in the way packets are sent/created/received/acknowledged differ from os to os, not to mention hardware
obvious one are mac addressing (easy to spoof but you can usually tell if the mac is a pc or mobile based)
User Agents as was mentioned, although this not a all defining as browser apps can spoof this
and im sure there many more, all of these create a system fingerprint that makes you different from all the other devices on the operators network
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Ah, there's something new i learned, mine was just a second guess
while i agree it was rude, this shouldn't have been posted here, it should have been posted on the general wildfire sub forum as this does not particularly pertain to any problems that have been encountered on the touchpad
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to be fair it could've belonged anywhere from wildfire to touchpad to just general android Q&A.....lets just be happy he didn't post it in development. I'd be thinking just as much as to where to post it, besides a touchpad solution might differ from other tablets seeing that it is a bit "unique"
I currently use "WiFi Tether" from the google play store on my "rooted" HTC to connect my Touchpad and dont have any issues with surfing.
But as darkassin mentioned, with some plans, after a certain amount of data used, you may or may not have your service slowed down. i have encounter this with downloaded nightly ROMS...I stopped doing that till i get home and use reg WiFi.
Enjoy.
Am on classicnerds here and a number of GB and ICS ROM's on a HTC phone. Hotspot works OK with laptop and TouchPad. Had to use the APN fix to get around the carrier blocking the tethering.
Focus should be over in your phone forum.
I know that WiFi tether has been an issue on all the custom sense roms (4.0+) I have read in many threads that more people are trying to fix bt problems over this problem. Are the two reliant of each other? I haven't found a clear answer as to why the WiFi tether is such a problem, aside from sense breaks tethering.
Now, if it is as simple as sifting through the files and trying to locate some sort of specific setting, I am willing to dedicate some time if someone can tell me in general what I should be looking for. Let's see if we can get this problem resolved cuz many of us rely on the tethering daily and would love to have it working.