[Q] Gingerblur VS Stock 2.2 - Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

What are the differences between Gingerblur and stock 2.2?

Stock blows, gingerblur rules.
To embellish on that point, they are both Android 2.2.....Gingerblur is just a themed version of 2.2. However, it does quite a bit more:
Features
Deodexed framework & system
Gingerbread style
Stock Android 2.3 lock screen theme
Android 2.3 Gingerbread icons for applications
Removes /system/app bloatware
Removes /data/app bloatware
Nexus S Live Wallpaper
Flash 10.2
with fully upgraded Tegra 2 support
Gingerbread Launcher
Gingerbread themed dialer
GingerBlur boot screen
Widget Picker (for grouped widgets)
Gingerbread Power Widget
Gingerbread Keyboard
Ad blocking via “hosts” file
Stock Gallery (3D Gallery)
Stock Clock (with Alarm Clock)
with Google Voice Action (ie. “set alarm 4:00 PM”)
Sideloading
Webtop hack option
HDMI hack option
Stock Messaging app
In short : less bloat, faster speed, better battery life, looks cooler (imo)

I mean actual stock 2.2, like what's on the G2X. Not motoblur.

hotweels258 said:
I mean actual stock 2.2, like what's on the G2X. Not motoblur.
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This would be the Atrix forum.....we have Motobloat!
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With respect to the motobloat... would you say if i use the freeze method using Ti Backup with the safe listed apps , would it be like the gingerblur minus the fancy apps/addons/themes???
What i'm trying to ask is if we just remove the bloatwares using the frozen apps, would it be as fast as the gingerblur?
Thanks

QkSi1ver said:
With respect to the motobloat... would you say if i use the freeze method using Ti Backup with the safe listed apps , would it be like the gingerblur minus the fancy apps/addons/themes???
What i'm trying to ask is if we just remove the bloatwares using the frozen apps, would it be as fast as the gingerblur?
Thanks
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Nope. Gingerblur adds speed improvements.

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VR12 Rosie vs LauncherPro Plus

Hi
I am currently running VR12 with flykernel10a and I have to say it is a very stable system and battery life is amazing using the suggested settings. I am considering giving launcherpro a go. I like the idea of being able to customize the homescreen more. The question I have is for those people who have launcherpro installed over VR12. Is it as quick or quicker/slower than rosie ?
How would I go about installing launcher pro over rosie ? Will Rosie still be running in the background ? If I do decide to go with launcherpro, would it be better to remove rosie completely ? (How would I go about this ?)
Any feedback is appreciated,
Riyaz
riyaz_7 said:
Hi
I am currently running VR12 with flykernel10a and I have to say it is a very stable system and battery life is amazing using the suggested settings. I am considering giving launcherpro a go. I like the idea of being able to customize the homescreen more. The question I have is for those people who have launcherpro installed over VR12. Is it as quick or quicker/slower than rosie ?
How would I go about installing launcher pro over rosie ? Will Rosie still be running in the background ? If I do decide to go with launcherpro, would it be better to remove rosie completely ? (How would I go about this ?)
Any feedback is appreciated,
Riyaz
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It should be faster, as rosie is pretty slow. If you want to remove rosie, you might want to look at SuperHero 2 as a ROM (it's slightly older now, but it's off a similar base to VR12, but uses launcher pro as the default launcher, with much of rosie removed)
If you do use it and can't get Launcher Pro to open, you might need to install the newer apk of Launcher Pro (www.launcherpro.com) via adb to get it working (since Launcher Pro expires due to being a beta, with free updates available via market or that website)
Is there a way for me to remove rosie on VR12 and exchange for launcherpro without changing the ROM ?
riyaz_7 said:
Is there a way for me to remove rosie on VR12 and exchange for launcherpro without changing the ROM ?
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Well, you could remove Rosie.apk and add Launcher Pro's apk, but nandroid first in case it breaks

superclean vs. just deleting apps?

like everyone else, there are a lot of icons or apps (depending on what we're talking about) that I don't use. what does superclean leave in, and how hard is it to just delete them.
SuperClean is much much more beyond just deleting apps.
This thread mostly details.
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DL30 super clean FROYO
Removed
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All bloatware
All verizon apps
All verizon framework
Touchwiz live walls and widgets
Touchwiz launcher
Touchwiz calendar
Touchwiz calculator
Memo and write apps
Flash
Nuance
Samsung keyboard
Startup animation
shutdown animation
startup sounds
market widget
setup wizard
backup assistant
Added
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2.2.1 launcher, modified to work with TW dialer. You need to set PHONE as default activity on the phone button for the first time use.
Musicmod
aosp calendar
aosp calculator
Google voice
Google voice enabled dialer (voicemail button)
aosp dock app
non binged car dock app
non binged browser
camera to include geotagging
latest market, search, voice, gmail, etc
resolv.conf
aosp ringtones
ad blocking hosts
aosp lockscreen
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Read the changelog for any changes/modifications since the original. The latest SuperClean (2.6) is a hybrid of EB01 and EB16, as well.
Edit: And this should either be in the Super Clean thread, or in General- not a new thread in Development.
okay, thanks. I guess that rules out superclean. I like touchwiz too much. how do you delete stock apps?
m91-30 said:
okay, thanks. I guess that rules out superclean. I like touchwiz too much.
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Read the post! There's a patch to add TouchWiz.
m91-30 said:
how do you delete stock apps?
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Remove the .apk by hand, or use something like Titanium Backup and remove it, or use Titanium Backup's Freeze feature. Be careful what you remove! If you remove some things, TouchWiz and other stuff could stop working!
i don't miss touchwiz at all. honestly what do you like about it?
and i am not being rhetorical, seriously why do you like it over a clean rom running launcher pro?
I like the effects, look, and feel of it. I've never had any speed issues with it, and I use the touchwiz apps like program manager, media player, weather clock, calander, clock, ect...
This belongs in general discussion.
upsidedownaaron said:
i don't miss touchwiz at all. honestly what do you like about it?
and i am not being rhetorical, seriously why do you like it over a clean rom running launcher pro?
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Dogma serves no one. Several touchwiz apps are more functional than their aosp counterparts. Now I do agree that the touchwiz launcher is meh, but there is a lot more to a ROM than just the launcher.
rigglemania said:
Dogma serves no one. Several touchwiz apps are more functional than their aosp counterparts. Now I do agree that the touchwiz launcher is meh, but there is a lot more to a ROM than just the launcher.
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I agree, the launcher is the weakest part of TW, but even the launcher isn't so bad. As far as speed goes, the thing that really slows it down is the TW widgets. Those must be terribly bloated.
My biggest complaint is just the goofy app drawer with the seizure inducing app backgrounds, but the home screen setup isn't too bad. I've switched back to it from ADWex as EX was starting to exhibit some strange behavior (seemed like memory use was ballooning over time and the whole system was slowing down).
Why not just use titanium backup and freeze the apps instead of deleting. (you need the premium version though)
If you really want to know what files are different between ROMs, you can always download 2 zipped ROMs (such as stock deodexed EB01 and superclean EB01 for example), unzip them and use a program like WinMerge (Windows only) to compare the files between the two.
As far as TouchWiz is concerned, it's all personal preference. There was a thread on here where a bunch of people talked about liking the TouchWiz launcher - me included. I like horizontal scrolling, being able to re-arrange the apps to specific pages and I even like the backgrounds to all the apps in the drawer. It is visually more uniform and a lot easier for me to view/launch apps without all the dead space between the icons.
I don't like vertical scrolling and small icons the stock launcher provides. Part of the problem isn't just the launcher, it's the icons. Not all app developers follow the same guidelines for making app icons. Some are 2D, some are 3D, they're all different sizes. I guess the icon backgrounds from TouchWiz or MIUI give them all a uniform look that's appealing to me?
yeah. I'm not giving up touchwiz, or the touchwiz apps, I like how they work, I've liked it since my omnia 2 (even though, admittedly, it did slow that phone down). I also like the continuity it provides from one samsung phone to the next, as I plan on sticking by samsung as long as the phone works like it should for me from the git go (I never had any serious problems with my omnia 2, or fascinate). right now my only setback is only having a linux computer. I need to figure out how to hack android (linux kernel) from ubuntu (linux). you would think two linux OSs would play well together, oh well.
also, is there a list somewhere of .APKs you can delete without effecting touchwiz or android?
m91-30 said:
also, is there a list somewhere of .APKs you can delete without effecting touchwiz or android?
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There are lists around, but there has been a fair amount of work put into the superclean ROMs. That is a good basis for what you can/can not remove to an extent.
I say to an extent, because there are some things left in, some things removed and some things added to the superclean ROM that doesn't "officially" make it "super clean" to me.
For example, the Memo app can be removed (it has been in superclean) and it won't hurt anything. The additional fonts can be removed, but they haven't been in superclean. There are some Google apps which typically come stock that can be removed - some that don't come stock have been added to superclean - all of which can be installed from the Market.
Sometimes the best way to test is from trial and error (if you do use this method, use ADB and rename files to test - don't delete). If you go asking questions, people will either tell you to Google it, try it yourself, or you'll get 2 different answers that conflict which will cause you to try it yourself anyway.
I don't believe in breaking core functionality.
If I remove the extra fonts in superclean, there is a nice fat force closing sub menu under display settings.
My OCD will not stand for it. This is the same reason Samsung Mms.apk was added back. No multi-part messages= broken, imo.
superclean is a name. If you want a truly SUPER CLEAN rom, then use blackhole, and customize to your liking. Although i think you wil find that in some respects, SC is cleaner.
Typically, apps added to superclean are there to increase functionality. Its not meant to be an aosp replacement/clone.
adrynalyne said:
I don't believe in breaking core functionality.
If I remove the extra fonts in superclean, there is a nice fat force closing sub menu under display settings.
My OCD will not stand for it. This is the same reason Samsung Mms.apk was added back. No multi-part messages= broken, imo.
superclean is a name. If you want a truly SUPER CLEAN rom, then use blackhole, and customize to your liking. Although i think you wil find that in some respects, SC is cleaner.
Typically, apps added to superclean are there to increase functionality. Its not meant to be an aosp replacement/clone.
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Interesting.. I never noticed a FC sub menu after removing fonts, but I (like most others else here) trust your judgment 200% over my own.
I'm making a bit of an assumption that if you remove the fonts, then go to display settings and mess with fonts there, it will crash. I've not tested the theory, but thats the main reason I have left them in. That and they take little space, and don't run in the background xD.
adrynalyne said:
I'm making a bit of an assumption that if you remove the fonts, then go to display settings and mess with fonts there, it will crash. I've not tested the theory, but thats the main reason I have left them in. That and they take little space, and don't run in the background xD.
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I just re-flashed MIUI so I can't give you the step-by-step, but I recall removing a total of 3 files with the string *EUK* and they just don't show up in the fonts list in display settings. The option to download fonts is still there - no FC.
can someone give me a list of some of the apps to avoid freezing/uninstalling to avoid locking up touchwiz and android?
Good discussion

[Q] Stock gingerbread apps?

Just went from OG Droid -> bionic and blur is killing me. Where can I find gingerbread "stock" basic apps like gallery, alarm clock etc. or should I just try loading my froyo ones from my old system?

[Q] Widget Grouper

Going back and forth between Alien and CM7 - love CM7 functionality, but occasionally need some of the stuff still in work on the ROM and will decide to go back to Alien.
One thing I find myself really missing is the fact that CM7 groups your widgets when you go to add - so instead of having 8-12 widget options for a single app, you'll have one entry for the app that says (12 widgets) or something similar.
Is there any way to flash this functionality onto the system if running a different ROM?
Thanks!
Homebase 6.2 Blue Chronic rom has this as well as cm7...
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[Q] Fave Home Launcher?

Hi anyone who reads this, im currently wondering whats the best home launcher that people are using. i know there are alot which have ups and downs but i feel there is not one truely dominant launcher i have heard of. So, if you would like to share your experience, good or bad, of home launchers id love to hear your views
BTW its not a place just to slag off anyones hard work making a launcher ect, id just like to hear other peoples views
Thanks
Sony stock 2.3.4
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thanks for the reply
ADW launcher or go launcher.
I don't like se launcher at all. The bottom bar is far too fat and it has no customizability
Mostly agreed, but i like the widget overview
it would be adw but you cant add the arc photo widget. so i think it be the se 2.3.4
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Sony stock 2.3.4
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If that's the one that allows you to share apps on fb, I agree! But not because of that, I don't even use that feature
Regina is simple
X10 HACK
Stock 2.3.4
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launcher pro because
1) I like the scrolling calendar and facebook widgets (paid version only)
2) I like the ability to hide certain apps from the app folder
3) its very stable for me
I'm interested to see what features other launches have over it though as development on launcher pro seems to have slowed somewhat.
My faves are stock 2.3.4 and LP.
However i prefer LP for all it's themed HD icons and tweaks available.
Is there a way to theme icons for stock 2.3.4 ?
+1
I really can't live without the scrolling calendar i LPP. I've tried another scrolling calendar that worked on stock SE 2.3.4. But it was to ugly...
SE Stock have two major features I miss...
- 4x4 icons (I want 5x4)
- Can't customize shortcuts
Phantasm4489 said:
launcher pro because
1) I like the scrolling calendar and facebook widgets (paid version only)
2) I like the ability to hide certain apps from the app folder
3) its very stable for me
I'm interested to see what features other launches have over it though as development on launcher pro seems to have slowed somewhat.
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GO launcher has a scrollable calendar i think with smooth page transitions so i liked that when i used a calendar.
Also, it has many tweaks to get it how you want, maybe an alternative to LP as it now seems that its a pretty dominant launcher
Fave Home Launcher
I've been using SPB Shell 3D for almost a year now so I would say its almost my perfect choice but I love the one from stock 2.3.4 too.
Currently, I use Launcher 7.
nemus launcher for me !
stock se 2.3 home and Nemus Launcher,because of speed and simplicity
Defo Sony 2.3.4 stock launcher. Looks good, simple to use, and really fast!
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scoobysnacks said:
ADW launcher or go launcher.
I don't like se launcher at all. The bottom bar is far too fat and it has no customizability
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removing widgets at ADW launcher is a pain.i like SE launcher the most but from time to time i try different ones
josephnero said:
removing widgets at ADW launcher is a pain.i like SE launcher the most but from time to time i try different ones
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Hahaha how is it a pain? You long press it and press remove LOL
Jesus...

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