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hi, i have jit on my stock generic world 2.1 firmware. After jit enabiling my build.prop on 32 vm heapsize, i changed after reading some in an motorola milestone forum , it to 36 vm heapsize with rootexplorer. I can not explain why, but i have the feeling that most of my apps go smother when i launch they. I think my phone is smother. Im newbie, but i have the feeling after change it, try the xda app, for example,find it is faster loading.
sry for bad english, and please make a backup before change it
Do you get more points in Linpack and Quadrant now?
Tried, and all it does is brick your phone
When you restart it ofc! Haha
I didn't brick my X10. Mine is smoother now.
In Quadrant I get almost on every run more than 750 points now and in Linpack almost on every run more than 17.35 points. New record for me in Linpack are 17.52 points.
I'm still trying to get more than 777 points in Quadrant...
Flo95 said:
I didn't brick my X10. Mine is smoother now.
In Quadrant I get almost on every run more than 750 points now and in Linpack almost on every run more than 17.35 points. New record for me in Linpack are 17.52 points.
I'm still trying to get more than 777 points in Quadrant...
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The more cache heapsize, the faster big apps (like huge games) are running. But small and medium size apps run slower.
The less cache heapsize is, the faster small apps run, but this can be cause of FC of huge apps.
for example, with 12 MB heapsize, small apps will fly on your phone instanly, but medium-size and huge apps will crash everytime.
If u are not playing games and use huge apps, u can set cache heapsize to 24 MB, else the 32 MB is good solution for all in my opinion
Flo95 said:
I didn't brick my X10. Mine is smoother now.
In Quadrant I get almost on every run more than 750 points now and in Linpack almost on every run more than 17.35 points. New record for me in Linpack are 17.52 points.
I'm still trying to get more than 777 points in Quadrant...
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Hm how did that work?
I'm on 2.1 JIT enabled, global FW... I'm restoring it to the J+Z W 2.1 anyways haha!
I might try it again though, if I can be bothered, I'll post results I'll do it more carefully next time
changed to 36m on mine now. SE-Shipped-Lite ROM
hmmmm...seems smoother
Well, guys... same here) Changed to 36, and have everything smoother. Even if everybody recommends changing between 12-32 only, 36 fits perfect our x10s.
hi, thanks for feedback
i have played with my phone these day, and have no problems
linpack now 17.186 before believe at 16, but not over 17
when somebody have problems, you can go back to 32 or 24 vm heapsize
Alakasam said:
Hm how did that work?
I'm on 2.1 JIT enabled, global FW... I'm restoring it to the J+Z W 2.1 anyways haha!
I might try it again though, if I can be bothered, I'll post results I'll do it more carefully next time
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I changed 32 to 36 with Root Explorer, saved it and rebooted my device. That's it.
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Placebo effect.
I made that change and did not notice anything different or more smother, Linpack and Quadrant give lower values
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I changed 32 to 36 with Root Explorer, saved it and rebooted my device. That's it.
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I think I missed out the 36(m <--) bit XD silly me T_T
Will changing it make running 3D gameloft game smoother? Is the build file under /system folder
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Placebo effect.
I made that change and did not notice anything different or more smother, Linpack and Quadrant give lower values
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Right. Little apps are slower than before.
I changed it back to 32.
Has someone found a value, that makes the X10 faster? With better benchmarks etc
has anyone tested 18 or 24?
hi you can test it and report it
think it's just a feeling, maybe a bit of fine-cut not for the dramatic performance gains
Flo95 said:
Right. Little apps are slower than before.
I changed it back to 32.
Has someone found a value, that makes the X10 faster? With better benchmarks etc
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It does say that a smaller vm will make smaller apps faster and larger apps slower. I tend to use news readers and browsers rather than games and the like, so I would if I could be bothered, take it down to 24
Edit: just changed it to 24 and it does feel faster. I was able to use it sooner after boot and my custom animations were lovely and smooth. Thanks for the tip op
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If you are not a gamer and are an average user with the average apps, then 24 is good. I changed down to 24.
IMO the default value 24 is the best fit for our X10i. Never have a problem and can't feel any different when changing it to 32. Even when I'm in 32, I have to relaunch several apps twice before it works correctly.
So I think I'll stick with 24. ^^
The original heap size of the X10 are 24?
And JIT changes it to 32?
I think 32 is better, because the benchmarks are much better.
Hey there,
Just have a few questions about the V6 Supercharger script by zeppelinrox.
1. Is it worth it on the Atrix? I know that he says it's great for all devices as you can set your own values as well as have it rearrange the memory groupings but I was wondering if I would see any performance improvements?
2. Can it be applied to the Atrix? With our locked bootloader and all, I have very limited knowledge about this and how scripts work but it talks a lot about init.d and I was wondering would anything need to be changed so that it works with our phones/2nd-Init?
3. If it works and is worth it, what do you suggest I put for values?
- If you want a tutorial that, in my eyes, seems easier to understand then you can find it here. -
Thanks in advance
- DarkRyoushii
would rather bump than make a new thread.. I'm really eager to apply this as it rearranges memory groupings so that it's better for multitasking..
"You must be root of course!"...Check
"Using CyanogenMod 7.x.x!".....FAIL
That is just for the simplified guide. Check the first link or the original thread for it, it says it works on standard Rom
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As long as your rooted it will work.
But I'm curious about a few things...
With 1 gigabyte of ram is there ever any lag?
If the phone gets laggy, how much free ram do you have when this happens?
What are the default minfree values?
I was surprised initially that some V6 presets improved droid X2 and evo4g performance but V8 will include megamemory settings, with 512mb devices in mind, of 6, 12, 75, 125, 150, 175 mb
Hey,
How would I go about finding out the default minifree values?
For me I see quite a bit of lag when the ram hits near 200mb however I am also plagued with horrendous lag when using live wallpapers so I'm willing to try everything haha
DarkRyoushii
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zeppelinrox said:
With 1 gigabyte of ram is there ever any lag?
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No, Ive never experienced any lag on the Atrix. Its fast! Some peeps complain about lwp lag, but I dont have a prob with that either. If anybodys Atrix is lagging its because they are doing something wrong.
DarkRyoushii said:
Hey,
How would I go about finding out the default minifree values?
For me I see quite a bit of lag when the ram hits near 200mb however I am also plagued with horrendous lag when using live wallpapers so I'm willing to try everything haha
DarkRyoushii
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Run the script.
It will tell you your current minfrees right when you open it under the list of options.
edit: Test this set 6, 12, 150, 200, 250, 300 mb
If it's the ones listed as system default in autokiller memory optimizer then they are:
6, 8, 16, 20, 22, 24
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Are you FKM?
lol
Freaking stock telus froyo minfree values are more aggressive at 8, 12, 24, 28, 32, 32
Google's GB values are 8, 12, 16, 24, 28, 32 which are still slightly more aggressive...
Unbelievable.
wow just applied "this set 6, 12, 150, 200, 250, 300 mb" and on reboot my phone is sitting on ~600MB free RAM instead of ~300MB!
DarkRyoushii said:
wow just applied "this set 6, 12, 150, 200, 250, 300 mb" and on reboot my phone is sitting on ~600MB free RAM instead of ~300MB!
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And the verdict on LWPs?
still just as broken :/
phone feels snappier when loading menus and stuff though.. like going through settings and stuff.
Heh... well adjusting the mifrees to get more free ram is the easy part.
The hard part is the OOM grouping fixes that always keeps the launcher snappy and finding minfree values high enough that the phone never lags but not so high that it deters multitasking.
So the big question is, is multitasking just as good as before?
When you leave an app and go back to it later, it still remembers what you were doing?
well I'm not usually a big multitasker but I'm able to switch between 5 apps (2 of which are games) seamlessly.. not sure if it's good or not as it's probably the most I've tried at once :3
Probably gonna call it quits for the night though, nearing 3am and I gotta be at work tomorrow morning. Thanks for all your help! really appreciate it
EDIT: Interesting? After Reboot I looked at my new minfree values using your script and found they are different from what I set, they are now 12, 18, 36, 121.094, 128.906 and 136.719
seems slightly odd but okay, still snappier than what I started with anyway I better sleep, will be back tomorrow night!
Akmo or amm may be applying settings on boot
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I uninstalled both before running this script to avoid that
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maybe those are your roms default values?
either way, the V6 settings arent sticking... so you need SM to load at boot either /data/99SuperCharger.sh or /system/etc/init.d/99SuperCharger
Updated V6 SuperCharger includes MegaMemory setting... check it out!
Thanks! how do apply this megamemory setting? also I noticed that after my friend played a game on my atrix it never quit after closing it, the phone ended up getting REALLY hot to the point where I felt it through my pants in class later and looked to find my batter on 17% after 5 hours of being unplugged.. I guess I just have to screw with the minfrees or MegaMemory settings depending on which will help me more..
I've run my E3D stock at 1.2 Ghz and I've run it overclocked under temp root at 1.7 Ghz. Sure my benchmarks are higher @ 1.7, but as a practical matter, do I notice the phone working any faster?
Not really.
It is like driving 150 vs 120. 150 is faster but does it really seem that much faster? (I've driven both speeds and I can tell you it doesn't). At some point our phones are "fast enough" for the software we throw at them. Now I admit I'm not a phone gamer so I cannot comment on the effect of overclocking on games, but just day-to-day desktop stuff, nah, no difference as far as I can tell.
Add to this that it is likely that additional speed is chewing through more battery faster and it hardly seems worth it. Without upping the voltage, your phone will likely be more unstable overclocked and with more voltage will likely have a shorter life or get cooked altogether.
For me, I'll probably just leave the speed stock.
I'm not saying I am "right" about this. Just my opinion at this point in time. YMMV.
Thoughts?
This is agreed up to a point. Sooner or later they will be creating apps and OS' that will truly utilize the full dual cores potential within the phone. I personally believe that up until that point the OP is 100% right on. But once this does happen, these apps will become more and more processor heavy. And once that happens, I believe we'll be back in the same boat as before and 1.2 vs. 1.7 will actually make a bit of a difference to the typical end user (and not just by benchmark enthusiasts).
The only reason I believe this to be true is look at how PCs and laptops evolved. We got dual core processors and apps weren't quite using the full potential, then as time went on and programmers started utilizing the full processing capabilities of dual/quad cores (& as these processors became more and more common) the differences began to matter again. That's just my 2 cents & I could be completely wrong, but just wanted to share my thoughts. Good topic though
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mitchellvii said:
I've run my E3D stock at 1.2 Ghz and I've run it overclocked under temp root at 1.7 Ghz. Sure my benchmarks are higher @ 1.7, but as a practical matter, do I notice the phone working any faster?
Not really.
It is like driving 150 vs 120. 150 is faster but does it really seem that much faster? (I've driven both speeds and I can tell you it doesn't). At some point our phones are "fast enough" for the software we throw at them. Now I admit I'm not a phone gamer so I cannot comment on the effect of overclocking on games, but just day-to-day desktop stuff, nah, no difference as far as I can tell.
Add to this that it is likely that additional speed is chewing through more battery faster and it hardly seems worth it. Without upping the voltage, your phone will likely be more unstable overclocked and with more voltage will likely have a shorter life or get cooked altogether.
For me, I'll probably just leave the speed stock.
I'm not saying I am "right" about this. Just my opinion at this point in time. YMMV.
Thoughts?
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lol i did this once gotta love having multiple tabs and think you clicked on the right one ya? least thats what happend to me when i did it
I agree with you. Even in the games i play there is almost no difference, except that the battery gets drained faster because of the higher voltage.
P.s. wrong section, rable, rable, rable
I kinda agree with you in the matter of it not making a HUGE difference. But when I'm overclocked to 1.7, I do notice that it seems to scroll smoother. But that's the only difference I can see.
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I'm comin from a heroc running 768 so 1.2g MORE than enough for me. Besides any faster an yer batterys gonna last w couple hours.
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Hi Mitch! You're right, no real need for OC.
From a SuperCharged Evo4g!!!
motoelliot said:
I'm comin from a heroc running 768 so 1.2g MORE than enough for me. Besides any faster an yer batterys gonna last w couple hours.
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This would be my philosophy. A 1.2 GHz Dual Core is absolutely insane compared to what us Hero users used to have to deal with. My phone couldn't even handle 768, it was stable at 691.
LiquidSolstice said:
This would be my philosophy. A 1.2 GHz Dual Core is absolutely insane compared to what us Hero users used to have to deal with. My phone couldn't even handle 768, it was stable at 691.
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Yeah... My poor heros still mad at me.
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I have my 3D oc'ed to 1.5 and ever so slightly undervolt to 1175000 (too many zeroes?)
Totally stable for me. Battery doesn't seem effected much.
Of course I haven't done heavy gaming yet. So. I dunno. I'm still in the honeymoon phase of just being Able to overclock, ya know. Lol.
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felacio said:
I have my 3D oc'ed to 1.5 and ever so slightly undervolt to 1175000 (too many zeroes?)
Totally stable for me. Battery doesn't seem effected much.
Of course I haven't done heavy gaming yet. So. I dunno. I'm still in the honeymoon phase of just being Able to overclock, ya know. Lol.
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I dont know what the stock voltage is, but wouldnt this essentially balance out the extra battery draw from running a slightly higher clock?
Faster, Stronger .. make it so.
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I've overclocked mine a few days, now I'm at stock 1.2 almost no difference. Running the script for overclock is nice though because it allows the use of apps like setcpu. That way profiles can be set for temperature and battery charge level.
As for overclocking because its awesome fast... No need, sweet the way it is.
mitchellvii said:
I've run my E3D stock at 1.2 Ghz and I've run it overclocked under temp root at 1.7 Ghz. Sure my benchmarks are higher @ 1.7, but as a practical matter, do I notice the phone working any faster?
Not really.
It is like driving 150 vs 120. 150 is faster but does it really seem that much faster? (I've driven both speeds and I can tell you it doesn't). At some point our phones are "fast enough" for the software we throw at them. Now I admit I'm not a phone gamer so I cannot comment on the effect of overclocking on games, but just day-to-day desktop stuff, nah, no difference as far as I can tell.
Add to this that it is likely that additional speed is chewing through more battery faster and it hardly seems worth it. Without upping the voltage, your phone will likely be more unstable overclocked and with more voltage will likely have a shorter life or get cooked altogether.
For me, I'll probably just leave the speed stock.
I'm not saying I am "right" about this. Just my opinion at this point in time. YMMV.
Thoughts?
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I agree. It doesn't feel much if any faster and is probably needlessly using excess battey.
On the otherhand, I find there to be a pretty big difference between driving 120, 150, or even 170 mph.
mitchellvii said:
I've run my E3D stock at 1.2 Ghz and I've run it overclocked under temp root at 1.7 Ghz. Sure my benchmarks are higher @ 1.7, but as a practical matter, do I notice the phone working any faster?
Not really.
It is like driving 150 vs 120. 150 is faster but does it really seem that much faster? (I've driven both speeds and I can tell you it doesn't). At some point our phones are "fast enough" for the software we throw at them. Now I admit I'm not a phone gamer so I cannot comment on the effect of overclocking on games, but just day-to-day desktop stuff, nah, no difference as far as I can tell.
Add to this that it is likely that additional speed is chewing through more battery faster and it hardly seems worth it. Without upping the voltage, your phone will likely be more unstable overclocked and with more voltage will likely have a shorter life or get cooked altogether.
For me, I'll probably just leave the speed stock.
I'm not saying I am "right" about this. Just my opinion at this point in time. YMMV.
Thoughts?
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I overclock because it makes my friends with lame iPhones jealous.
bavman said:
I agree with you. Even in the games i play there is almost no difference, except that the battery gets drained faster because of the higher voltage.
P.s. wrong section, rable, rable, rable
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You goto KU?
Nice internet speeds, dorm/campus internet sucked when I was there
Once there's permanent root and htc releases the kernel source, will our phones be able to be over clocked higher then 1.7?
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braggin' rights
Buff McBigstuff said:
I overclock because it makes my friends with lame iPhones jealous.
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Hey all,
I've been seeing people posting Quadrant scores well over 5000 on the SGS3, but I'm seeing mid-4000's consistently. In fact, until just a minute ago it kept showing up as like the 3rd or 4th fastest device in the results at the end (this last run I got 4684 and that was #1, just barely).
I've been very careful to close all apps, clear memory, etc., and I have quite a few of the default apps disabled as well. Very little running in the background. But, the scores continue to be a fair bit slower than others seem to be getting. I'm mean, I'm totally happy with how this beast performs, but still, would love the scores to be higher for bragging rights
Anyone have any thoughts on why they might be coming out a bit slower than expected?
Thanks,
Frank
same here bro. I think its the temperature sensor or whatever its called. I constantly only get about 2800-3500. In terminal emulator I entered the command su first and after that I entered stop thermal. After I did that I constantly got scores 4500-5100. Make sure to restart phone after entering.
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Hi,
Hope this is posted in the correct place :fingers-crossed:
I own a Sammy Galaxy Nexus and have had a play with various kernels. The two that I have had the most success are Franco and Trinity. I have always been able to run the higher GPU speed with Franco's kernels(512) but don't have the same results with Trinity's 537MHz speeds. I can over clock with Trinity's 384 kernels, but when I try with the higher GPU speed, I can't go over 1190MHz.
Could it simply be the 25MHz on the GPU is enough for my phone to get cranky and freeze when it feels like it? I just find it hard to believe that with that extra 25 my phone completely changes and can't run on even a little over clocking....
Thoughts?
Is it coz I have posted this in the wrong section that there are no replies?
Swiped on my Gnex
Yeah, you should post in the Gnex forums, where other people have the same device and have more knowledge on it.
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OK thanks!
Swiped on my Gnex