Hey there,
Just have a few questions about the V6 Supercharger script by zeppelinrox.
1. Is it worth it on the Atrix? I know that he says it's great for all devices as you can set your own values as well as have it rearrange the memory groupings but I was wondering if I would see any performance improvements?
2. Can it be applied to the Atrix? With our locked bootloader and all, I have very limited knowledge about this and how scripts work but it talks a lot about init.d and I was wondering would anything need to be changed so that it works with our phones/2nd-Init?
3. If it works and is worth it, what do you suggest I put for values?
- If you want a tutorial that, in my eyes, seems easier to understand then you can find it here. -
Thanks in advance
- DarkRyoushii
would rather bump than make a new thread.. I'm really eager to apply this as it rearranges memory groupings so that it's better for multitasking..
"You must be root of course!"...Check
"Using CyanogenMod 7.x.x!".....FAIL
That is just for the simplified guide. Check the first link or the original thread for it, it says it works on standard Rom
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As long as your rooted it will work.
But I'm curious about a few things...
With 1 gigabyte of ram is there ever any lag?
If the phone gets laggy, how much free ram do you have when this happens?
What are the default minfree values?
I was surprised initially that some V6 presets improved droid X2 and evo4g performance but V8 will include megamemory settings, with 512mb devices in mind, of 6, 12, 75, 125, 150, 175 mb
Hey,
How would I go about finding out the default minifree values?
For me I see quite a bit of lag when the ram hits near 200mb however I am also plagued with horrendous lag when using live wallpapers so I'm willing to try everything haha
DarkRyoushii
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zeppelinrox said:
With 1 gigabyte of ram is there ever any lag?
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No, Ive never experienced any lag on the Atrix. Its fast! Some peeps complain about lwp lag, but I dont have a prob with that either. If anybodys Atrix is lagging its because they are doing something wrong.
DarkRyoushii said:
Hey,
How would I go about finding out the default minifree values?
For me I see quite a bit of lag when the ram hits near 200mb however I am also plagued with horrendous lag when using live wallpapers so I'm willing to try everything haha
DarkRyoushii
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Run the script.
It will tell you your current minfrees right when you open it under the list of options.
edit: Test this set 6, 12, 150, 200, 250, 300 mb
If it's the ones listed as system default in autokiller memory optimizer then they are:
6, 8, 16, 20, 22, 24
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Are you FKM?
lol
Freaking stock telus froyo minfree values are more aggressive at 8, 12, 24, 28, 32, 32
Google's GB values are 8, 12, 16, 24, 28, 32 which are still slightly more aggressive...
Unbelievable.
wow just applied "this set 6, 12, 150, 200, 250, 300 mb" and on reboot my phone is sitting on ~600MB free RAM instead of ~300MB!
DarkRyoushii said:
wow just applied "this set 6, 12, 150, 200, 250, 300 mb" and on reboot my phone is sitting on ~600MB free RAM instead of ~300MB!
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And the verdict on LWPs?
still just as broken :/
phone feels snappier when loading menus and stuff though.. like going through settings and stuff.
Heh... well adjusting the mifrees to get more free ram is the easy part.
The hard part is the OOM grouping fixes that always keeps the launcher snappy and finding minfree values high enough that the phone never lags but not so high that it deters multitasking.
So the big question is, is multitasking just as good as before?
When you leave an app and go back to it later, it still remembers what you were doing?
well I'm not usually a big multitasker but I'm able to switch between 5 apps (2 of which are games) seamlessly.. not sure if it's good or not as it's probably the most I've tried at once :3
Probably gonna call it quits for the night though, nearing 3am and I gotta be at work tomorrow morning. Thanks for all your help! really appreciate it
EDIT: Interesting? After Reboot I looked at my new minfree values using your script and found they are different from what I set, they are now 12, 18, 36, 121.094, 128.906 and 136.719
seems slightly odd but okay, still snappier than what I started with anyway I better sleep, will be back tomorrow night!
Akmo or amm may be applying settings on boot
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I uninstalled both before running this script to avoid that
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maybe those are your roms default values?
either way, the V6 settings arent sticking... so you need SM to load at boot either /data/99SuperCharger.sh or /system/etc/init.d/99SuperCharger
Updated V6 SuperCharger includes MegaMemory setting... check it out!
Thanks! how do apply this megamemory setting? also I noticed that after my friend played a game on my atrix it never quit after closing it, the phone ended up getting REALLY hot to the point where I felt it through my pants in class later and looked to find my batter on 17% after 5 hours of being unplugged.. I guess I just have to screw with the minfrees or MegaMemory settings depending on which will help me more..
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hi, i have jit on my stock generic world 2.1 firmware. After jit enabiling my build.prop on 32 vm heapsize, i changed after reading some in an motorola milestone forum , it to 36 vm heapsize with rootexplorer. I can not explain why, but i have the feeling that most of my apps go smother when i launch they. I think my phone is smother. Im newbie, but i have the feeling after change it, try the xda app, for example,find it is faster loading.
sry for bad english, and please make a backup before change it
Do you get more points in Linpack and Quadrant now?
Tried, and all it does is brick your phone
When you restart it ofc! Haha
I didn't brick my X10. Mine is smoother now.
In Quadrant I get almost on every run more than 750 points now and in Linpack almost on every run more than 17.35 points. New record for me in Linpack are 17.52 points.
I'm still trying to get more than 777 points in Quadrant...
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I didn't brick my X10. Mine is smoother now.
In Quadrant I get almost on every run more than 750 points now and in Linpack almost on every run more than 17.35 points. New record for me in Linpack are 17.52 points.
I'm still trying to get more than 777 points in Quadrant...
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The more cache heapsize, the faster big apps (like huge games) are running. But small and medium size apps run slower.
The less cache heapsize is, the faster small apps run, but this can be cause of FC of huge apps.
for example, with 12 MB heapsize, small apps will fly on your phone instanly, but medium-size and huge apps will crash everytime.
If u are not playing games and use huge apps, u can set cache heapsize to 24 MB, else the 32 MB is good solution for all in my opinion
Flo95 said:
I didn't brick my X10. Mine is smoother now.
In Quadrant I get almost on every run more than 750 points now and in Linpack almost on every run more than 17.35 points. New record for me in Linpack are 17.52 points.
I'm still trying to get more than 777 points in Quadrant...
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Hm how did that work?
I'm on 2.1 JIT enabled, global FW... I'm restoring it to the J+Z W 2.1 anyways haha!
I might try it again though, if I can be bothered, I'll post results I'll do it more carefully next time
changed to 36m on mine now. SE-Shipped-Lite ROM
hmmmm...seems smoother
Well, guys... same here) Changed to 36, and have everything smoother. Even if everybody recommends changing between 12-32 only, 36 fits perfect our x10s.
hi, thanks for feedback
i have played with my phone these day, and have no problems
linpack now 17.186 before believe at 16, but not over 17
when somebody have problems, you can go back to 32 or 24 vm heapsize
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Hm how did that work?
I'm on 2.1 JIT enabled, global FW... I'm restoring it to the J+Z W 2.1 anyways haha!
I might try it again though, if I can be bothered, I'll post results I'll do it more carefully next time
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I changed 32 to 36 with Root Explorer, saved it and rebooted my device. That's it.
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Placebo effect.
I made that change and did not notice anything different or more smother, Linpack and Quadrant give lower values
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I changed 32 to 36 with Root Explorer, saved it and rebooted my device. That's it.
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I think I missed out the 36(m <--) bit XD silly me T_T
Will changing it make running 3D gameloft game smoother? Is the build file under /system folder
tiggerbcn said:
Placebo effect.
I made that change and did not notice anything different or more smother, Linpack and Quadrant give lower values
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Right. Little apps are slower than before.
I changed it back to 32.
Has someone found a value, that makes the X10 faster? With better benchmarks etc
has anyone tested 18 or 24?
hi you can test it and report it
think it's just a feeling, maybe a bit of fine-cut not for the dramatic performance gains
Flo95 said:
Right. Little apps are slower than before.
I changed it back to 32.
Has someone found a value, that makes the X10 faster? With better benchmarks etc
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It does say that a smaller vm will make smaller apps faster and larger apps slower. I tend to use news readers and browsers rather than games and the like, so I would if I could be bothered, take it down to 24
Edit: just changed it to 24 and it does feel faster. I was able to use it sooner after boot and my custom animations were lovely and smooth. Thanks for the tip op
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If you are not a gamer and are an average user with the average apps, then 24 is good. I changed down to 24.
IMO the default value 24 is the best fit for our X10i. Never have a problem and can't feel any different when changing it to 32. Even when I'm in 32, I have to relaunch several apps twice before it works correctly.
So I think I'll stick with 24. ^^
The original heap size of the X10 are 24?
And JIT changes it to 32?
I think 32 is better, because the benchmarks are much better.
Hey guys, this thing poped up a while ago over at the Galaxy S forums
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=981125
its suppose to increase overall smoothness of the phone in general, no porting was required to go on to basically all the other galaxy s and works for most of the froyo Roms. This is not suppose to change the benchmark scores in anyway, so the increase/decrease is most likely due to something else
Flashing the update.zip WILL NOT WORK, you have to use the alternative method which is replacing the files with root explorer, or something similar.
So it seems we have a mixed bag of results, if you actually applied the tweak (properly), please please vote if it works for you or not.
and of course, i take absolutely no credit for the work
Interesting post. I just backed up those two files:
/system/bin/app_process
/system/bin/system_server
...and then installed it through xRecovery. It seems to work fine. I mean, the bootanimation is still there, and nothing seems to crash (except Angry Birds for some reason, but I think that was already happening before I installed this). I can't say whether or not it's had a big effect though. Scrolling though the app drawer (in ADWLauncher EX) seems pretty smooth, as does scrolling in Root Explorer. I'll have to try it longer.
Thanks!
Edit: Wait, I don't think it installed properly. I checked the filesizes and they're still the originals. I'll try it again. Hold on.
hmmm no noticeable change but it did seem to boost my linpack
could be placebo but it does seem slightly smoother, like maybe it maxes your fps or something along those lines
Yup, not very noticeable but seem to increase my quadrant 10%. Still need to test more.
But, install in xrecovery, file date still 2008, file size fixed with new install. Anybody, have same issue?
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Yup, installing it through xRecovery does nothing. It doesn't give an error, but it doesn't copy the files either. I managed to install the files properly using adb through xRecovery. I tried though adb while the phone was booted normally, but it couldn't overwrite the files because they were in use.
After installing, it works, but same story as above. I can't tell if it's better or worse. Quadrant scores about the same (~1300 for me) and Linpack scores around 34 (instead of 30 normally). The Linpack score could be because I had just rebooted though.
BTW, this is on FreeX10 beta 4.
Yup, just applied it (using Root Explorer) on CM 6.1.3 V4.4, after reading your post.. Killed boot-animation (to show its there), and doesn't seem to harm anything besides that. Hard to tell the difference, but maybe less laggy (I use Go Launcher (as cube) and LOTS of widgets) and apps loading slightly faster/ smoother.. Think I'll keep it!
Thank you for pointing, and thanks to nikademus! )
I'm on cm6.1.3 4.5.7, my x10 run at maximum 600mhz (setcpu) to save power. It's seem better speed. Just keep it, at least it's not harmful
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Can anyone confirm if it actually does something really noticeable? Like maybe making the arc launcher a bit less laggy in Wolfbreak's rom??
abdurahman said:
Can anyone confirm if it actually does something really noticeable? Like maybe making the arc launcher a bit less laggy in Wolfbreak's rom??
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it does definitely seem to improve scores at least, like stated though you need to use root explorer to move the files into the system/bin/ folder yourself. flashing the zip doesn't work
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Can anyone confirm if it actually does something really noticeable? Like maybe making the arc launcher a bit less laggy in Wolfbreak's rom??
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How noticeable does it really need to be? I love the Go Launcher because HS can be configured as rotating cube (a bit like my Linux with Compiz), but it had begone to feel a little laggy and now its perfectly smooth again.. Good enough for me!
thats weird, i don't think its suppose to raise any scores. But i guess on a different device it might have different effects.
FWIR what its suppose to do is raise the FPS across the phone and hold it constant.
Just in case imma backup using nandroid then ill install these two files and see what they do!
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killed boot animation which i dont care.
and seems a bit smoother as far as scrolling goes.
so i'd say it did some good and no harm as of now.
I did test quadrant with 1ghz and confirmed not increase my quadrant. But during 3d test fps go up and down unlike before. Xrecovery intallation worked for me, it's kill my bootanimation too.
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Does it really kill boot animation. But I like the cyanogen animation. Does it replace it with something else?
Also do I have to do anything with that Meta file?
Is it possible to reinstall the boot animation or is it impossible with this mod?
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Is it possible to reinstall the boot animation or is it impossible with this mod?
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I installed it using root explorer earlier and a can't see much difference to be fair...
The fps do seem a lil more consistent
And no I looked on the galaxy s thread and couldnt find anything to do with replacing it correct me if I'm wrong mate
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I replaced both of the files by Root Explorer also made a backup.
Then set my cpu speed to (Performance) max 576Mhz min 245.
Phone performance - maintain (scrolling smoother) but manage to save me more battery.
Can't tell the performance for gaming as I'm not a big fans of games.
But it did make my x10i smooth, and save battery!
Edit : Angrybirds running smooth
If you look closely enough, the X10 drops frames severely with this tweak applied. To see what I mean, keep a close eye on the GFX benchmarks in Quadrant, you will notice it drops frames after every 5-8 seconds.
I tested it on Angry Birds too, it drops frames - you just have to watch closely and you will see it. I don't know if it has affected my Quadrant score 'coz I never benchmarked it before replacing the files, and with these 2 files replaced, my score is 1329.
Edit : I'm on Wolfbreak's CM 6.1.3 [2.2.1] v4.4 with MattedBlues theme applied. If neither of you experience dropped frames, it might as well be the theme or the ROM, not sure.
Not sure if anyone else has tried these tweaks with the atgs2 yet. I used them on my infuse and loved them, so decided to try them on Unnamed and they work great. I definitely notice the phone is faster and more responsive. Doesnt matter but quad scores went up too, my highest was 5,126 while overclocked to 1.6
Do our phones really need this? I can't see any difference
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I read that when in cwm you have to flash it twice. first time it aborted 2nd time it went finished. Maybe its just me but i notice a slight difference
Most of those tweaks either don't really do anything, aren't optimized for a device with 1GB RAM, or have potential serious negative side effects.
I believe that acidtweaks disables a bunch of filesystem syncs, which puts it in the "dangerous" category. (I am positive Samsung Adrenaline Shot does...) Of course, he doesn't bother to warn you of this.
If these tweaks were really THAT good with no negative impacts, they'd be Google's defaults.
I personally use these tweaks http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
They work great, been using them ever since I had my captivate and wont run a ROM without these.
LamboDroid19 said:
I personally use these tweaks http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
They work great, been using them ever since I had my captivate and wont run a ROM without these.
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Those leaks are pointless... They optimize the lowmemkiller for a device with low memory - but that is NOT what our device is, we have 1GB RAM. I'd be surprised if many people have ever triggered the LMK at all on the GSII.
It not just the LMK that gets tweaked. The OOM gets tweak and a lot more that I don't understand. I don't know how you say it useless because I can tell a difference
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Is a speed tweak even necesary with this phone? This thing is so fast and smooth, I can't see it getting any faster. Seeing that it's lightning fast right out of the box, I think these tweaks would have to make it significantly faster to even notice. I"m speaking of OS operations only. I"d like to have faster browsing but I think that's more a function of ATT giving us more. The ONLY lag I have is the home button lag that is caused by the voice command. There's a fix but I kinda like VC right now.
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Those leaks are pointless... They optimize the lowmemkiller for a device with low memory - but that is NOT what our device is, we have 1GB RAM. I'd be surprised if many people have ever triggered the LMK at all on the GSII.
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All I know is that they have a setting just for devices with a gig of ram
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Entropy512 said:
Most of those tweaks either don't really do anything, aren't optimized for a device with 1GB RAM, or have potential serious negative side effects.
I believe that acidtweaks disables a bunch of filesystem syncs, which puts it in the "dangerous" category. (I am positive Samsung Adrenaline Shot does...) Of course, he doesn't bother to warn you of this.
If these tweaks were really THAT good with no negative impacts, they'd be Google's defaults.
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Thanks Entropy I know you from the infuse, you definitely know what your talking about. so you recommend I uninstall the tweaks?
Can we use the V6 Supercharger Script with our Rezounds?
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I havent tried this yet since the device is fast enough. I believe this requires init.d support which only one rom fully supports I believe. my guess is the script might produce lag
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ok thanks for the reply. I used to use the script on my inspire 4g. I don't think I know exactly what the script does. Could you explain for me? I got the script to run but when I tried the kernelizer script it just sent me into a boot loop. My understanding of the supercharger script which I read while it was running was that it frees up memory and changed the scheduler.
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Try latest update that I just posted.. it's REALLY polished and many niggly things have been taken care of.
You can say no to io scheduler tweaks in the KAK script if it caused a bootloop.
It's good for all roms as long as you're rooted and read the help file
Best way to know for sure is do a full nandroid backup.then flash the file and take it for a spin. If it sucks, do a wipe and restore.
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Try latest update that I just posted.. it's REALLY polished and many niggly things have been taken care of.
You can say no to io scheduler tweaks in the KAK script if it caused a bootloop.
It's good for all roms as long as you're rooted and read the help file
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Sound good I'll give it a try. Do you have a guide of what I should basically set things at when it tells me? Like which number (s) to choose. I just wanna be running smooth and fast and maybe be able to choose. It really made a difference on my inspire
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Well RC5 would make a recommendation on which HP settings to choose but there is also the calculated settings that seem to be working really well for anybody who has commented on that feature
If you select option 10 to custoomize it should first ask if you want to use the calculated values so you don't have to type them in.
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Well RC5 would make a recommendation on which HP settings to choose but there is also the calculated settings that seem to be working really well for anybody who has commented on that feature
If you select option 10 to custoomize it should first ask if you want to use the calculated values so you don't have to type them in.
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alright. So what's better to use the calculated settings or the recommendations?
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haha... well I don't know what you like better if you want more apps in memory or if you want maximum snappiness with less multitasking or a balance.
Best if you try both.
I came up with the calculated values because alot of devices actually fall between HP categories so if you'rr right in the middle of 2 categories then maybe the calculated one.
If rather have snappiness. So go with the calculated?
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I went with option 10 all good so far. It says in the script that option 9 is recommended for my device tho. I also have a question about the widget. When I put it on the screen it only shows an icon that starts the script. Is that all it does?
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You can make widgets to quickly powershift to a different set of minfrees, bulletproof one shots, the vac, superclean and engine flush scripts too
How do I do that? When I choose the widget it just makes a shortcut icon
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AWESOME!!!!!!
Can't wait to try this out! Every little bit helps. This script worked wonders for my friend's DX/DX2.
You still with me zepp? Lol
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I just had two boot loops =( one yesterday and one this morning. It was boot looping for probably like a half hour. My alarm didn't go off this morning because of it..
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Did you update to RC5.2?
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I just had two boot loops =( one yesterday and one this morning. It was boot looping for probably like a half hour. My alarm didn't go off this morning because of it..
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I had a bootloop today also, while on the charger. Were you on the charger also?
The only thing that i've done differently lately is this script, but i'm not blaming this script. I havent had a bootloop in 2 weeks, back when I was trying out another kernel.
I guess I'll have to keep an eye on it.
Can anyone give me some info on possibly running a v6 supercharger on my note? I am running the solarisprime rom...
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Can anyone give me some info on possibly running a v6 supercharger on my note? I am running the solarisprime rom...
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You going to have to wait for a kernel that supports it im asuming.
it works......
but the note does not need it.
thanks for the info 2rrell
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it works......
but the note does not need it.
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check out my post
thanks bison.. will definitley look into it.
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check out my post
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I use it on most of my phones....I noticed my memory from using stock task manger it goes to around 150-180mb ram left....which shows a huge difference compared to how stock uses memory..but I also noticed a lot of lag in my keyboard...so I went back to just stock....just use a few build tweaks you find suitable....I use the wifi scan. mot delay on phone and ring delay tweaks.
I have a question as well ?..why is are dalvik heap size 128mb ?...all other devices and galaxy s2 and skyrocket have the most 48.... people change it 48mb in most build prop tweaks....but cannot figure out why are devices are set so high?...can that be a bad thing?
Does it really make a difference?
Using the 1000HP setting on mine I feel things are a lot snappier (could always be a placebo effect), but the memory management is a bit too aggressive for me. I can't run any navigation software in the background with it enabled, and many of my chat apps won't stay open for long while multitasking.
I'll probably reset back to stock before I go to bed and see if I notice a difference tomorrow.
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Using the 1000HP setting on mine I feel things are a lot snappier (could always be a placebo effect), but the memory management is a bit too aggressive for me. I can't run any navigation software in the background with it enabled, and many of my chat apps won't stay open for long while multitasking.
I'll probably reset back to stock before I go to bed and see if I notice a difference tomorrow.
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use calculated or 768 HP values
whoa! there's the man now...zep himself..... zep which script do you think is best for us. just the latest one?...
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use calculated or 768 HP values
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Actually I tried 768 after the first time I noticed it was killing my navigation, but that just made everything laggy for whatever reason. Enabling the lag nullifier didn't seem to make a difference, so I went back to 1000.
Last night I reverted back to stock and left it to charge overnight. Today everything seems much better. Dead Space and Shadowgun were nearly unplayable while using the supercharger, but I tried them both today and they run quite fluidly and nice. Everything seems to be snappier and just run better without the supercharger. This phone really doesn't seem to need it like some of my other devices.