Not sure if anyone else has tried these tweaks with the atgs2 yet. I used them on my infuse and loved them, so decided to try them on Unnamed and they work great. I definitely notice the phone is faster and more responsive. Doesnt matter but quad scores went up too, my highest was 5,126 while overclocked to 1.6
Do our phones really need this? I can't see any difference
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I read that when in cwm you have to flash it twice. first time it aborted 2nd time it went finished. Maybe its just me but i notice a slight difference
Most of those tweaks either don't really do anything, aren't optimized for a device with 1GB RAM, or have potential serious negative side effects.
I believe that acidtweaks disables a bunch of filesystem syncs, which puts it in the "dangerous" category. (I am positive Samsung Adrenaline Shot does...) Of course, he doesn't bother to warn you of this.
If these tweaks were really THAT good with no negative impacts, they'd be Google's defaults.
I personally use these tweaks http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
They work great, been using them ever since I had my captivate and wont run a ROM without these.
LamboDroid19 said:
I personally use these tweaks http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
They work great, been using them ever since I had my captivate and wont run a ROM without these.
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Those leaks are pointless... They optimize the lowmemkiller for a device with low memory - but that is NOT what our device is, we have 1GB RAM. I'd be surprised if many people have ever triggered the LMK at all on the GSII.
It not just the LMK that gets tweaked. The OOM gets tweak and a lot more that I don't understand. I don't know how you say it useless because I can tell a difference
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Is a speed tweak even necesary with this phone? This thing is so fast and smooth, I can't see it getting any faster. Seeing that it's lightning fast right out of the box, I think these tweaks would have to make it significantly faster to even notice. I"m speaking of OS operations only. I"d like to have faster browsing but I think that's more a function of ATT giving us more. The ONLY lag I have is the home button lag that is caused by the voice command. There's a fix but I kinda like VC right now.
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Those leaks are pointless... They optimize the lowmemkiller for a device with low memory - but that is NOT what our device is, we have 1GB RAM. I'd be surprised if many people have ever triggered the LMK at all on the GSII.
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All I know is that they have a setting just for devices with a gig of ram
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Most of those tweaks either don't really do anything, aren't optimized for a device with 1GB RAM, or have potential serious negative side effects.
I believe that acidtweaks disables a bunch of filesystem syncs, which puts it in the "dangerous" category. (I am positive Samsung Adrenaline Shot does...) Of course, he doesn't bother to warn you of this.
If these tweaks were really THAT good with no negative impacts, they'd be Google's defaults.
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Thanks Entropy I know you from the infuse, you definitely know what your talking about. so you recommend I uninstall the tweaks?
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I've had my vibrant since it came out. They have 512 of ram hardware. I know we've gotten up to 344 or so with tweaking, but why can't we get the full 512 at all?
I have a feeling it has to do with Samsung or drivers, but with everything I've seen devs overcome I can't see why this is still a problem.
I have a nook color which has inferior hardware overall, but the biggest reason I see it as more stable is it never has memory management issues(running any rom). My biggest reasons to dump my vibrant for a Hercules or comparable is because of the constant ram issues the vibrant has that they wont, along with better hardware.
Maybe the answer is out there, but I haven't seen it in a whole year(so answers could be outdated), nor it brought up for a very long time.
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That 512 MB is shared ram. So some of it is dedicated to the video processor which is built into CPU. Phones have to be slim and light I don't think well be seeing dedicated videocards and soundcards anytime soon.
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The simple answer is that our system needs to set aside a certain amount of ram for the actual OS to use, nothing that we can necessarily touch. Certain apps occupy memory at all times and we're left with whatever memory hasn't been allocated by OS. I'm not the most technical but that's the general consensus from what I've read over the last 2 years of running Android.
If you want to really push the limits of what free ram you can achieve, I would highly suggest reading the OP of this thread. In there you'll see how you can adjust the way your system handles recently opened and closed apps. My phone feels a million times better, just using those simple to use tweaks/scripts.
Let me know if you need any help.
- Mat
dardani89 said:
That 512 MB is shared ram. So some of it is dedicated to the video processor which is built into CPU. Phones have to be slim and light I don't think well be seeing dedicated videocards and soundcards anytime soon.
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I know the nook has no dedicated gpu, but it makes use of most if not all of that ram.. unless I am playing a graphically intensive game, it rarely drops below 100mb available ram, usually staying around 150+ until I've opened a ton of apps. Oh, and many phones that are coming out have a dedicated gpu, such as all of the variants of the samsung galaxy S II. it has a Dual-core 1.2GHz ARM Cortex-A9 proccessor, Mali-400MP GPU, Exynos chipset.. and awesome battery life I have heard.
Either way, my nook color doesn't experience the laggyness that my vibrant does until I have used so much it makes sense, but considering my vibrant stays around 60mb of available ram +/- most of the time..
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The simple answer is that our system needs to set aside a certain amount of ram for the actual OS to use, nothing that we can necessarily touch. Certain apps occupy memory at all times and we're left with whatever memory hasn't been allocated by OS. I'm not the most technical but that's the general consensus from what I've read over the last 2 years of running Android.
If you want to really push the limits of what free ram you can achieve, I would highly suggest reading the OP of this thread. In there you'll see how you can adjust the way your system handles recently opened and closed apps. My phone feels a million times better, just using those simple to use tweaks/scripts.
Let me know if you need any help.
- Mat
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You have no idea how hard I have been trying to find that app, I was going to try it when I was running simply honeyv5 because the memory issues were so horrible, but I couldn't find it again, and minfreemanager was the next best thing.. so I am VERY glad you posted it.
Are you using a specific set of pre-made settings, a specific script, or some custom setup, and which?
I am just trying to get my vibrant as usable as possible until the hercules and other comparable phones come out, so I can weigh them against each other. I don't regret my vibrant, but I wish I had waited a little longer so I had made a more informed choice.. if I can make it kickass again, at least for a few months, I will be a happy guy. Thanks again.
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I know the nook has no dedicated gpu, but it makes use of most if not all of that ram.. unless I am playing a graphically intensive game, it rarely drops below 100mb available ram, usually staying around 150+ until I've opened a ton of apps. Oh, and many phones that are coming out have a dedicated gpu, such as all of the variants of the samsung galaxy S II. it has a Dual-core 1.2GHz ARM Cortex-A9 proccessor, Mali-400MP GPU, Exynos chipset.. and awesome battery life I have heard.
Either way, my nook color doesn't experience the laggyness that my vibrant does until I have used so much it makes sense, but considering my vibrant stays around 60mb of available ram +/- most of the time..
You have no idea how hard I have been trying to find that app, I was going to try it when I was running simply honeyv5 because the memory issues were so horrible, but I couldn't find it again, and minfreemanager was the next best thing.. so I am VERY glad you posted it.
Are you using a specific set of pre-made settings, a specific script, or some custom setup, and which?
I am just trying to get my vibrant as usable as possible until the hercules and other comparable phones come out, so I can weigh them against each other. I don't regret my vibrant, but I wish I had waited a little longer so I had made a more informed choice.. if I can make it kickass again, at least for a few months, I will be a happy guy. Thanks again.
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No problem man. I'm actually using option #9 in V8 right now and it's been a dream. It stops holding apps in memory after not using them a few seconds, which is great for what I'm looking for. What you'll find is that it manages the memory and how quickly things are slotted around (different priorities that android gives particular applications; Launcher, Dialer, Messaging, etc.). You can actually try every option and see which you find the best.
I started out with option #2 and then moved all the way down as I found things I didn't like in some, but liked in others.Give it a shot man!
- Mat
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No problem man. I'm actually using option #9 in V8 right now and it's been a dream. It stops holding apps in memory after not using them a few seconds, which is great for what I'm looking for. What you'll find is that it manages the memory and how quickly things are slotted around (different priorities that android gives particular applications; Launcher, Dialer, Messaging, etc.). You can actually try every option and see which you find the best.
I started out with option #2 and then moved all the way down as I found things I didn't like in some, but liked in others.Give it a shot man!
- Mat
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I'm actually using number 2 now in the allandroidv8 script, and if anything maybe it is too aggressive, but it has it's snappiness back. Looking at how they set the rom I'm using and the one before it, it looks like they didn't tweak it at all from stock cm7.. if anything I think they've made tweaks it more recent nightlies better than those roms! Simply honey(who brags about how great they are) and Biff ron both need some tweaking.. I'm gonna play with it, but thanks for posting what I was trying so hard to find
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So I installed SetCPU today. Been testing the kernels ability to work underclocked at the max of 918mhz. Also set the scaling to conservative. After a days use it's been as good as normal full speed, 1512mhz
The battery lasted throughout the day, compared to my first two days of stock settings with only 6 hours of good use.
I'll keep playing. Still want to do some testing and benchmarks to make sure it's not under performing. But at least at the user level it seems to react the same.no lag.
I did confirm the clock speed out side of SetCPU using system panel.
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Don't bother using benchmarks to rate a phones performance that is a fatal error there. Benchmarks never effectively rate a phones performance. I just go by how smooth the phone runs and it does it run everything I throw at it. If so gg pz end of story.
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Don't bother using benchmarks to rate a phones performance that is a fatal error there. Benchmarks never effectively rate a phones performance. I just go by how smooth the phone runs and it does it run everything I throw at it. If so gg pz end of story.
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True, but people still like to get the general idea. There are many factors.hence why I said the over all feel seems the same. Im going to use antutu, and quadrant. 5 times each to get a range.=-)
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True, but people still like to get the general idea. There are many factors.hence why I said the over all feel seems the same. Im going to use antutu, and quadrant. 5 times each to get a range.=-)
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Well whatever works for you. Just saying Quadrant is a poor tool to use to bench for many reasons which I won't go over. Antutu is nice for SD speed testing I think, oter than that meh. Benches are just for numbers for people to flex their epeens with. They just really don't truly gauge a devices performance.
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Well whatever works for you. Just saying Quadrant is a poor tool to use to bench for many reasons which I won't go over. Antutu is nice for SD speed testing I think, oter than that meh. Benches are just for numbers for people to flex their epeens with. They just really don't truly gauge a devices performance.
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Benchmarks do have a some good uses... while comparing different phone models with benchmarks can be iffy, it can give an overall insight, (things like graphics capabilities with very GPU extensive games) but in the end user experience and daily use are the real judges.
Where benchmarks can be of the most use, is when comparing changes to the same phone model.
E.G. Comparing performance impacts of AOSP vs Sense, overclocking and under-clocking, and de-sensing/bloat removal.
When used for these reasons, you can get a really good feel for how changes are affecting your device overall. Even then, benchmarks are not the be all end all, and user experience is still important. As you may introduce lag or other performance issues that do not show up in benchmarks.
Which temp root method are you using? Mine isn't staying rooted long enough for me to justify using setCPU at all...
The new version and the one that comes with the newest clean tool stays until reboot.
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The new version and the one that comes with the newest clean tool stays until reboot.
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Thx for the info, guess I must still be using the outdated method. I'll run the latest version of Scott's Clean tool and give it a shot.
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So I installed SetCPU today. Been testing the kernels ability to work underclocked at the max of 918mhz. Also set the scaling to conservative. After a days use it's been as good as normal full speed, 1512mhz
The battery lasted throughout the day, compared to my first two days of stock settings with only 6 hours of good use.
I'll keep playing. Still want to do some testing and benchmarks to make sure it's not under performing. But at least at the user level it seems to react the same.no lag.
I did confirm the clock speed out side of SetCPU using system panel.
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Please let us know what settings you use that work for you.
I generally stay temprooted unless I'm going to be away from a charger for a bit and need BT (since you can't turn BT back on after temproot). I wouldn't have SetCPU autostart on boot (since it won't ever be able to get root access immediately after boot).
Meanwhile, I also set it to conservative and will see what that accomplishes.
A kernel needs to support setcpu, stock kernels do not. You need to flash a custom kernel, so you need a development phone or s-off.
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This kernel apparently does work with SetCPU. I've confirmed using other cpu monitoring apps that the clock speed changes are capped.
I own 7 android phones, and have been rooting, overclocking, undervolting each and every single one of them (well one I still cant get rooted). I know when the cpu is under clocked and when it is not. Been doing these tweaks for 4 years now. If you use a tool like System Panel, at stock settings you can see the max cpu around 1500 on our little bad boy. When it peaks out the clock speed is shown. When you under clock it, then check again it won't go beyond the max cpu set in my testing I put a ceiling at 918mhz. System Panel reported full CPU usage (100%) at clock speed 918mhz. Typically with stock kernels, your absolutely right, changes to SetCPU do nothing at all to the real cpu. Which is confirmed, when I reboot and dont have root, if I attempt to use SetCPU and make the changes, System Panel reports 1500mhz (roughly) at full load regardless of what I set it to in SetCPU. If I did this to any of my other phones with stock kernels, you are correct it makes no difference as SystemPanel reports the stock max setting.
No I'm not being mean or aggressive, just saying. =-) And no don't believe me, but test it yourself and confirm or prove me wrong some other way and I admit error. Either way, half the fun is messing with the phone and trying to get it to do things it should not do.
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A kernel needs to support setcpu, stock kernels do not. You need to flash a custom kernel, so you need a development phone or s-off.
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No I'm not being mean or aggressive, just saying. =-) And no don't believe me, but test it yourself and confirm or prove me wrong some other way and I admit error. Either way, half the fun is messing with the phone and trying to get it to do things it should not do.
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Or I would say, "half the fun is messing with the phone and trying to get it to do things it should have always been allowed to do...." Just sayin'.
Are you using the profiles at all? Im interested to know what seems to be working out the best for you.
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True, but people still like to get the general idea. There are many factors.hence why I said the over all feel seems the same. Im going to use antutu, and quadrant. 5 times each to get a range.=-)
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In my view, the "benchmarks" would be an OK measurement if you were comparing apples to apples.
I tried running both Linpack and Quadrant on the very recently and dearly departed Incredible right after a fresh reboot and having charged the battery overnight...when the thing should have been at it's freshest.
I got wildly different scores each time I ran it after a reboot...knowing that on both programs the scores would improve the more times you ran the test.
It didn't seem to me that either program was a reliable indicator of what my phone was capable of. I didn't even trust them to tell me whether something I'd done...cleared cache or deleted bloatware...had any real effect.
It simply boils down to how the phone feels. That's not scientific, but it works for me.
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In my view, the "benchmarks" would be an OK measurement if you were comparing apples to apples.
I tried running both Linpack and Quadrant on the very recently and dearly departed Incredible right after a fresh reboot and having charged the battery overnight...when the thing should have been at it's freshest.
I got wildly different scores each time I ran it after a reboot...knowing that on both programs the scores would improve the more times you ran the test.
It didn't seem to me that either program was a reliable indicator of what my phone was capable of. I didn't even trust them to tell me whether something I'd done...cleared cache or deleted bloatware...had any real effect.
It simply boils down to how the phone feels. That's not scientific, but it works for me.
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Linpack and Quadrant are not reliable benchmarks. TBH I don't take any of the benchmarks seriously, they are more for entertainment for me. But to each their own right?
Yeah some of the benchmark apps are a bit unreliable to say the least...
If I use one, I try to use ones that Anandtech uses. I trust them to find the better benchmark tools.
Can anyone give me some info on possibly running a v6 supercharger on my note? I am running the solarisprime rom...
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Can anyone give me some info on possibly running a v6 supercharger on my note? I am running the solarisprime rom...
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You going to have to wait for a kernel that supports it im asuming.
it works......
but the note does not need it.
thanks for the info 2rrell
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it works......
but the note does not need it.
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check out my post
thanks bison.. will definitley look into it.
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I use it on most of my phones....I noticed my memory from using stock task manger it goes to around 150-180mb ram left....which shows a huge difference compared to how stock uses memory..but I also noticed a lot of lag in my keyboard...so I went back to just stock....just use a few build tweaks you find suitable....I use the wifi scan. mot delay on phone and ring delay tweaks.
I have a question as well ?..why is are dalvik heap size 128mb ?...all other devices and galaxy s2 and skyrocket have the most 48.... people change it 48mb in most build prop tweaks....but cannot figure out why are devices are set so high?...can that be a bad thing?
Does it really make a difference?
Using the 1000HP setting on mine I feel things are a lot snappier (could always be a placebo effect), but the memory management is a bit too aggressive for me. I can't run any navigation software in the background with it enabled, and many of my chat apps won't stay open for long while multitasking.
I'll probably reset back to stock before I go to bed and see if I notice a difference tomorrow.
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Using the 1000HP setting on mine I feel things are a lot snappier (could always be a placebo effect), but the memory management is a bit too aggressive for me. I can't run any navigation software in the background with it enabled, and many of my chat apps won't stay open for long while multitasking.
I'll probably reset back to stock before I go to bed and see if I notice a difference tomorrow.
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use calculated or 768 HP values
whoa! there's the man now...zep himself..... zep which script do you think is best for us. just the latest one?...
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use calculated or 768 HP values
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Actually I tried 768 after the first time I noticed it was killing my navigation, but that just made everything laggy for whatever reason. Enabling the lag nullifier didn't seem to make a difference, so I went back to 1000.
Last night I reverted back to stock and left it to charge overnight. Today everything seems much better. Dead Space and Shadowgun were nearly unplayable while using the supercharger, but I tried them both today and they run quite fluidly and nice. Everything seems to be snappier and just run better without the supercharger. This phone really doesn't seem to need it like some of my other devices.
i was wondering if it's okay to install the v6 supercharger script for rooted at&t s3?
any thoughts?
thanks.
primod808 said:
i was wondering if it's okay to install the v6 supercharger script for rooted at&t s3?
any thoughts?
thanks.
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Don't know why it would hurt. Have at it. Just make a nandroid before you attempt.
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I did it for my S3 but for Sprint, havent really seen any difference yet.
have never been impressed with these script packs......they seem to do minimal to everyday tasks....I honestly feel they are mostly snake oil. they appear good in theory but have never had a positive experience with them
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have never been impressed with these script packs......they seem to do minimal to everyday tasks....I honestly feel they are mostly snake oil. they appear good in theory but have never had a positive experience with them
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lulz....
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lulz....
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you can lulz all you want, but they only made marginal improvements and over time they actually degraded and caused problems.....been doing this a long time so it's not like I was doing it wrong all the time...and I gave it plenty of a fair chance.....I don't say things like that about a developers work after only giving it a "lulz" effort.....so no offense....but most of it was placebo and could only be seen on synthetic benchmarks even when it did work
lulz because you're comparing apples and oranges... you don't even know what SuperCharger is... and it really has no effect on benchmarks.
Kick Ass Kernel should but not SuperCharger.
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you can lulz all you want, but they only made marginal improvements and over time they actually degraded and caused problems.....been doing this a long time so it's not like I was doing it wrong all the time...and I gave it plenty of a fair chance.....I don't say things like that about a developers work after only giving it a "lulz" effort.....so no offense....but most of it was placebo and could only be seen on synthetic benchmarks even when it did work
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The v6 script was originally developed for the milestone, which, now, is terribly outdated. However, from what I can tell, it improves performance on lower end devices (512mb RAM 700mhz~ processor). Our higher end devices with 1GB+ RAM and 1Ghz+ cpus mainly just produce the placebo effect or only marginal improvements in performance.
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Thats what they said about 512 mb devices too.
Here's the cycle... hardware improves... then the OS and it's apps get more bloated.
You know... kinda like how nature hates a vaccuum so it always gets filled...
Or the effect of inflation on wages... sure... wages go up... but buying power stays the same...
etc... etc... lol
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Thats what they said about 512 mb devices too.
Here's the cycle... hardware improves... then the OS and it's apps get more bloated.
You know... kinda like how nature hates a vaccuum so it always gets filled...
Or the effect of inflation on wages... sure... wages go up... but buying power stays the same...
etc... etc... lol
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True. But there is always that slight lag between hardware updates and software updates where the new hardware doesn't need any improvements to run the software significantly better than the old hardware.
If only the manufacturers would stop throwing money into upgrading hardware and put that money into better, more elegant software development, then the older hardware would be supportable longer. Sadly, its never going to happen.
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lulz because you're comparing apples and oranges... you don't even know what SuperCharger is... and it really has no effect on benchmarks.
Kick Ass Kernel should but not SuperCharger.
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i don't want to start anything, because I appreciate anything done to improve performance on these devices, but i know one thing....every time it is mentioned in a post or a signature....it's sold as this super duper chromed up be all end all solution that is going to "supercharge" your android experience. it doesn't matter if I don't know what it is because my knowledge of what it is has nothing to do with "how awesome it is".....it's sold as this ultimate thing that makes **** faster....it has this huge following...and it's got this fancy signature logo and all these options and it's advertised as being oh so great.....and then I used it......
for me, across a couple different devices, that hasn't happened at all, not even close, it didn't even do that in one particular situation......it just really didn't do anything for any of my android devices.....unfortunately...it actually degraded performance over time......i'll leave it at that
I can tell you were probably using update 8 or at the very least... a VERY long time ago
Well thanks.
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You're welcome... tho that also means you've missed out on massive improvements lol
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lcis.seeder
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Has anyone tried it on their rooted Prime? I would love to try it but mine is gone for yet another RMA.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lcis.seeder
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Has anyone tried it on their rooted Prime? I would love to try it but mine is gone for yet another RMA.
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Nope, but I'm just about to. I'll report back. Nice spot. Thanks for sharing.
Installed on my Stock but rooted prime now. Appears to eliminate all the stock browser lag I used to have. It's now blazing fast, and I can scroll while its still loading stuff which I was never able to do before. Holy mother of all fixes it seems like:good:
I installed it last night on my prime. It does lot for my prime. I also did some of the early investigation to what was really being fixed by this hack. I am glad Cyanogen has confirmed some of my theories. If you are rooted I would highly recommend installing it.
-l4k
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Nope, but I'm just about to. I'll report back. Nice spot. Thanks for sharing.
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Tried this and also read up a bit on what it does. Unfortunately I don't think what this tries to do is an issue on the Prime. This basically makes sure there is always random data available for apps from a location that will block if there's none available. However, when I ran a command that was constantly consuming all the random data (cat /dev/random > /dev null), I could see that the random data was getting consumed but it wasn't causing a perceptibly adverse effect on anything else.
I also just ran the app for a while, and I didn't notice anything being more responsive. It will consume extra battery though.
Take look at my write up on the Google bug. That is what the author originally thought the problem was. What is probably going on is kernel lock contention due to the code that generates entropy when the pool is depleted.
Installed it just now, no discernible effect. Quick reboot... Chameleon launcher, app switching, Chrome, all smooth as butter. I am gobsmacked! I think have a feeling this works well for me because of the number of connections made by Chameleon, logged in accounts (I have 9 accounts logged in at all times) and apps syncing that I regularly exhaust the block device. Add to our already slow IO, any blocking at the kernel level will be multipled.
Going to monitor it some more and report back on battery life and any further observations. Thanks for the share! :good:
To all using this: please post some real before & after data. Anecdotes do nothing but cause confusion and misinformation.
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To all using this: please post some real before & after data. Anecdotes do nothing but cause confusion and misinformation.
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it has no effect on any benchmarks so its hard to quantify. for my use it does not make a discernible difference in anything I do with my prime is about the best data you can get.
It has no effect whatsoever: https://plus.google.com/u/0/115049428938715274412/posts/GWr72W9zmY2
Will give it a try.
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To all using this: please post some real before & after data. Anecdotes do nothing but cause confusion and misinformation.
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It has no effect whatsoever: https://plus.google.com/u/0/115049428938715274412/posts/GWr72W9zmY2
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I have done some benchmarks and it makes no difference to those whatsoever. This bothers me because I can't understand if this is supposed to do nothing, how does my device run orders of magnitude snappier all the time while running this compared with intermittent lag that I usually get (for example: waiting 1-3 seconds for the recent app list to show normally vs instant with this mod) . The CPU governor can't be it: I set cpu to max and use the performance governor and I still have massive lag. I have tried numerous things for I/O: different schedulers, different mount options to reduce writes on reads and improve write speed ie. noatime, nodiratime, discard, and nothing works! I have tried to narrow down a single process that causes the lag, no dice. I know I only have just under 2 days of testing behind me and yes I only have anecdotal evidence but I have been running this a long enough time with absolutely zero lag that I can't say it makes no difference for me. I'll continue testing but so far it has been too long to be placebo IMO.
gunzy83 said:
I have done some benchmarks and it makes no difference to those whatsoever. This bothers me because I can't understand if this is supposed to do nothing, how does my device run orders of magnitude snappier all the time while running this compared with intermittent lag that I usually get (for example: waiting 1-3 seconds for the recent app list to show normally vs instant with this mod) . The CPU governor can't be it: I set cpu to max and use the performance governor and I still have massive lag. I have tried numerous things for I/O: different schedulers, different mount options to reduce writes on reads and improve write speed ie. noatime, nodiratime, discard, and nothing works! I have tried to narrow down a single process that causes the lag, no dice. I know I only have just under 2 days of testing behind me and yes I only have anecdotal evidence but I have been running this a long enough time with absolutely zero lag that I can't say it makes no difference for me. I'll continue testing but so far it has been too long to be placebo IMO.
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Haha benchmarks dont equate to real life performance. Benchmark scores have been decreasing since gingerbread even though the new software makes everything faster
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The reason why your device *feels* snappier is because constant I/O activity ensures the CPU will remain at rather high clocks, producing the effect of a smoother experience at the expense of massive battery drain. The explanation of increasing the entropy does nothing by itself, you could cause a lot of I/O activity to anywhere in the emmc and it would produce a similar effect.
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Haha benchmarks dont equate to real life performance. Benchmark scores have been decreasing since gingerbread even though the new software makes everything faster
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Indeed. That was my point, benchmark results were unchanged but user experience is different. Hrrrm
Didn't do anything for me. Uninstalled it.
Thanks for finding this
I was skeptical as many are about this. I did not see any improvement in Quadrant scores. I installed this for one reason only and it works!
I stream .m4v movies from my NAS drive to my TV through my TP. Before this was installed I would have problems with stuttering no matter what player I tried. Sometimes I would have problems right away, and depending on the player/movie I could watch about an hour before the stuttering/lag begins. I have been beyond frustrated, especially since my wife has an IPad 2 that plays the same movies flawlessly.
Since installing this I can now play my movies without a hitch. I don't know why, but it works. I only use it for this purpose as my other testing showed no major difference. I turn it off when I am not watching movies as I have read that the battery drain is increased.
I streamed 3 movies this weekend without a problem and 2 of them were back to back and I only used approx 35% battery.
Running AndroWook 1.51 and with 1.6 oc kernal.
f'n around said:
I was skeptical as many are about this. I did not see any improvement in Quadrant scores. I installed this for one reason only and it works!
I stream .m4v movies from my NAS drive to my TV through my TP. Before this was installed I would have problems with stuttering no matter what player I tried. Sometimes I would have problems right away, and depending on the player/movie I could watch about an hour before the stuttering/lag begins. I have been beyond frustrated, especially since my wife has an IPad 2 that plays the same movies flawlessly.
Since installing this I can now play my movies without a hitch. I don't know why, but it works. I only use it for this purpose as my other testing showed no major difference. I turn it off when I am not watching movies as I have read that the battery drain is increased.
I streamed 3 movies this weekend without a problem and 2 of them were back to back and I only used approx 35% battery.
Running AndroWook 1.51 and with 1.6 oc kernal.
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+ 1 here. Running last JB update + rooted, wasn't able to play heavy games since the update to JB when we lost the OC kernel from ICS, games were laggy, freezing,almost unplayable. After seeder.apk installation, <i am again able to play NOVA 3, Batman, Spiderman, Asåhalt 7, without any lag and high FPS, seems even better than when my Prime was on ICS OC to 1600. I don't care about what people say but what I experience o preformance, this is something I've learnt after all those years using Android devices. Give it try expecially if you run heavy apps. Battery is a bit worse, but who cares when the prime isnot overheating and run a lot better.
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I want to install it too, but as I understand there is no root for current JB yet, or am I wrong?!
as the uninstall?