i was wondering if it's okay to install the v6 supercharger script for rooted at&t s3?
any thoughts?
thanks.
primod808 said:
i was wondering if it's okay to install the v6 supercharger script for rooted at&t s3?
any thoughts?
thanks.
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Don't know why it would hurt. Have at it. Just make a nandroid before you attempt.
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I did it for my S3 but for Sprint, havent really seen any difference yet.
have never been impressed with these script packs......they seem to do minimal to everyday tasks....I honestly feel they are mostly snake oil. they appear good in theory but have never had a positive experience with them
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have never been impressed with these script packs......they seem to do minimal to everyday tasks....I honestly feel they are mostly snake oil. they appear good in theory but have never had a positive experience with them
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lulz....
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lulz....
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you can lulz all you want, but they only made marginal improvements and over time they actually degraded and caused problems.....been doing this a long time so it's not like I was doing it wrong all the time...and I gave it plenty of a fair chance.....I don't say things like that about a developers work after only giving it a "lulz" effort.....so no offense....but most of it was placebo and could only be seen on synthetic benchmarks even when it did work
lulz because you're comparing apples and oranges... you don't even know what SuperCharger is... and it really has no effect on benchmarks.
Kick Ass Kernel should but not SuperCharger.
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you can lulz all you want, but they only made marginal improvements and over time they actually degraded and caused problems.....been doing this a long time so it's not like I was doing it wrong all the time...and I gave it plenty of a fair chance.....I don't say things like that about a developers work after only giving it a "lulz" effort.....so no offense....but most of it was placebo and could only be seen on synthetic benchmarks even when it did work
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The v6 script was originally developed for the milestone, which, now, is terribly outdated. However, from what I can tell, it improves performance on lower end devices (512mb RAM 700mhz~ processor). Our higher end devices with 1GB+ RAM and 1Ghz+ cpus mainly just produce the placebo effect or only marginal improvements in performance.
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Thats what they said about 512 mb devices too.
Here's the cycle... hardware improves... then the OS and it's apps get more bloated.
You know... kinda like how nature hates a vaccuum so it always gets filled...
Or the effect of inflation on wages... sure... wages go up... but buying power stays the same...
etc... etc... lol
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Thats what they said about 512 mb devices too.
Here's the cycle... hardware improves... then the OS and it's apps get more bloated.
You know... kinda like how nature hates a vaccuum so it always gets filled...
Or the effect of inflation on wages... sure... wages go up... but buying power stays the same...
etc... etc... lol
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True. But there is always that slight lag between hardware updates and software updates where the new hardware doesn't need any improvements to run the software significantly better than the old hardware.
If only the manufacturers would stop throwing money into upgrading hardware and put that money into better, more elegant software development, then the older hardware would be supportable longer. Sadly, its never going to happen.
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lulz because you're comparing apples and oranges... you don't even know what SuperCharger is... and it really has no effect on benchmarks.
Kick Ass Kernel should but not SuperCharger.
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i don't want to start anything, because I appreciate anything done to improve performance on these devices, but i know one thing....every time it is mentioned in a post or a signature....it's sold as this super duper chromed up be all end all solution that is going to "supercharge" your android experience. it doesn't matter if I don't know what it is because my knowledge of what it is has nothing to do with "how awesome it is".....it's sold as this ultimate thing that makes **** faster....it has this huge following...and it's got this fancy signature logo and all these options and it's advertised as being oh so great.....and then I used it......
for me, across a couple different devices, that hasn't happened at all, not even close, it didn't even do that in one particular situation......it just really didn't do anything for any of my android devices.....unfortunately...it actually degraded performance over time......i'll leave it at that
I can tell you were probably using update 8 or at the very least... a VERY long time ago
Well thanks.
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You're welcome... tho that also means you've missed out on massive improvements lol
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After last weeks DX farce with 2Ghz and 3Ghz Im cautious however these guys seem to have the benchies to back it up. We've long heard the potential for the hummingbird was 1.6. Only sad part is they say no Fascinate development till they get one. Removing the 56fps cap is nice too
I've never heard of these guys before? Legit? Renowned? Anyone know.
I would say all is BS until proven other wise. In my opinion the hardware would burn up at those speeds.
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I would say all is BS until proven other wise. In my opinion the hardware would burn up at those speeds.
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While not safe, I seriously doubt it would burn up.
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While not safe, I seriously doubt it would burn up.
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Agreed. 1.6 has long been discussed as an achieveable speed. Dirrk was tinkering with it weeks ago. Its voltage requirement obviously is high and near the threshold point given the non-active cooling for the cpu. But I would not be surprised this could be achieved. I mean shoot we have 1.25Ghz on less than stock voltage already.
Benchmarks in one hand, stability in the other. When I see a posted kernel with good reviews for a week or so, I'll do more than raise an eyebrow. lol.
It's on the OCLF kernel, which if I remember, is well known for posting high quadrant scores without giving any real performance benefit.
Also, benchmark overclock's in the desktop world are always just for demonstration, not an application. Ever seen that 7GHz overclock benchmark they did on a Pentium 4?
This is no BS. The devs working on this are reputable and put out some of the best Vibrant ROMs out there. They're stable at 1.6ghz and are talking about pushing it to 1.8/2.0.
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This is no BS. The devs working on this are reputable and put out some of the best Vibrant ROMs out there. They're stable at 1.6ghz and are talking about pushing it to 1.8/2.0.
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This doesn't suprise me. I could push my Droid to 1.32ghz. That's well over a 100% overclock. Achieving a 60% overclock shouldn't be too hard, especially on newer and much better hardware.
I find it tough to believe that most phones will be stable at a 60% overclock. Granted, Im only speaking from my experience with desktop CPUs... What type of software do people run to test stability?
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This is no BS. The devs working on this are reputable and put out some of the best Vibrant ROMs out there. They're stable at 1.6ghz and are talking about pushing it to 1.8/2.0.
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Thats encouraging
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I find it tough to believe that most phones will be stable at a 60% overclock. Granted, Im only speaking from my experience with desktop CPUs... What type of software do people run to test stability?
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What has been your experience with desktop cpu's. I cannot remember the last desktop cpu I have which at least 50% so I dont find 60% outrageously unreasonable. Active cooling obviously makes a difference.
With the battery life Im seeing on Dirrks UV kernels and even what I got on stock voltages pre-OC I would feel confident I could still get a full day off a 1.4-1.5Ghz hummingbird even if the voltage had to be raised to 1400mv.
I'm having trouble with stability with the 1.2 OC kernals...
So I checked out the thread in the vibrant section. This is def for real! Looks awesome! I had trouble with dirrks lv 1200. But every other kernel has ran fine. I'm sure that eventually we'll have everything we can dream on this phone. Good thing its already so great that I don't mind waiting. I hope I don't have to find an excuse to exchange my phone in search of one that can handle more.
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After last weeks DX farce with 2Ghz and 3Ghz Im cautious however these guys seem to have the benchies to back it up. We've long heard the potential for the hummingbird was 1.6. Only sad part is they say no Fascinate development till they get one. Removing the 56fps cap is nice too
I've never heard of these guys before? Legit? Renowned? Anyone know.
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@teamwhiskey is a god send. they have pulled the download though,due to flaws in their kernal. they are in the process of re-vamping it and re-testing. it seems while the kernal did improve performance it is unknown how much because it was also manipulating the internal clock speed.
def legit.
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@teamwhiskey is a god send. they have pulled the download though,due to flaws in their kernal. they are in the process of re-vamping it and re-testing. it seems while the kernal did improve performance it is unknown how much because it was also manipulating the internal clock speed.
def legit.
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That sounds like what Dirrk ran into at 1.6 as well
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That sounds like what Dirrk ran into at 1.6 as well
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Yea its going to be a pain to get that kink worked out. But from what ive heard theyre making headway. Now if only I could get a.perm root for the g2 lol.
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Yes this is for real. I personally run it. Heres quadrant I ran last night. This kernel should be ported to all SGS phones. As long as they get a good dev with this phone to help port.
CPU didnt see near the gain I had hoped it would.
ya the CPU is getting destroyed by the N1. And what is with the ridiculous I/O. Did someone port a PCI express array of SSD's on the Vibrant? Maybe they just developed the GOD file system.
I make jokes, but I want the screen of my Fascinate to say 3439 also haha
I am on a mesmerize niw coming from a vibrant. I used this kernel. There was a timing issue. The io scores come from oclf which cheats quadrant. Those guys have released a pretty stable 1.4 oc that is real. I got 68 fps in neocore. Truth be told guys there is no need for oc in my opinion. With froyo the phone plays flash easily. Only application of oc to me is emulation and bragging rights. A good voodoo kernel works wonders honestly.
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wooow way to bring this one back from the dead
Okay, so I just ran the CPU Benchmark test and got 1100mhz and 1000mhz with 430ms and 497ms.
What's everyone else getting? Just curious to compare numbers.
I stop benchmarking back when i had the heroc lol. Scores don't really mean anything. ****ty phones out score dual core phones at times, so my advice would be 2 just delete any benchmark apps on your phone asap or scores will drive you crazy...take it from someone thats owned at least 15 android devices since launch its for the best.
FYI overclocking is out and undervolting is in. These days these phones are already fast enough id undervolt to save battery
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I stop benchmarking back when i had the heroc lol. Scores don't really mean anything. ****ty phones out score dual core phones at times, so my advice would be 2 just delete any benchmark apps on your phone asap or scores will drive you crazy...take it from someone thats owned at least 15 android devices since launch its for the best.
FYI overclocking is out and undervolting is in. These days these phones are already fast enough id undervolt to save battery
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That is your opinion, and to me your opinion is bleh. I love benchmarks and they do mean quite a bit regardless of what you might think. Undervolting isn't in for me at all, I want max overclock with max over volt. I care less about battery saving, these phones do not save battery and minusing a little voltage from the CPU will not only make it severely unstable it is sometimes worse than overvolting. I have been overclocking since the 333mhz CPU. And I can tell you that benchmarks do mean a lot, they tell you quite a bit about your setup and what you could improve on. Not just one single benchmark, you would need a few. That is my main reason for flashing. I want a fast phone, not just fast, faster than yours! That is just how I am.
I would not suggest deleting your benchmarks, keep them, and compare, always, then you will know your phone, and I mean really know your phone. That is my opinion, and it ROCKS!
lol
No offense Kenny, just a little drunk, having some fun!
-DJ
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That is your opinion, and to me your opinion is bleh. I love benchmarks and they do mean quite a bit regardless of what you might think. Undervolting isn't in for me at all, I want max overclock with max over volt. I care less about battery saving, these phones do not save battery and minusing a little voltage from the CPU will not only make it severely unstable it is sometimes worse than overvolting. I have been overclocking since the 333mhz CPU. And I can tell you that benchmarks do mean a lot, they tell you quite a bit about your setup and what you could improve on. Not just one single benchmark, you would need a few. That is my main reason for flashing. I want a fast phone, not just fast, faster than yours! That is just how I am.
I would not suggest deleting your benchmarks, keep them, and compare, always, then you will know your phone, and I mean really know your phone. That is my opinion, and it ROCKS!
lol
No offense Kenny, just a little drunk, having some fun!
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That's cool i respect your opinion dude but you'll learn someday that with Android benchmarks don't mean ****. Why care who's phone scores the highest i could care less abt adding inches to my e-penis. Also, Undervolting has been around for a while and isn't unstable where have you been? You might be one of the few people who still believes overclocking is the ****.....
I know how fast my phone is based on performance and benchmark apps arent an indicator of speed/performance. Most bench apps only run one core to test they don't support dual so?
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I stop benchmarking back when i had the heroc lol. Scores don't really mean anything. ****ty phones out score dual core phones at times, so my advice would be 2 just delete any benchmark apps on your phone asap or scores will drive you crazy...take it from someone thats owned at least 15 android devices since launch its for the best.
FYI overclocking is out and undervolting is in. These days these phones are already fast enough id undervolt to save battery
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+1 about scores, they can easily be manipulated for e-penis reasons, CM on the evo3d is stupid fast, but I read benchmarks are horrible. Evo3d is a faster phone but the proton scores significantly higher is a good example, I frequently get lag on my MoPho.
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+1 about scores, they can easily be manipulated for e-penis reasons, CM on the evo3d is stupid fast, but I read benchmarks are horrible. Evo3d is a faster phone but the proton scores significantly higher is a good example, I frequently get lag on my MoPho.
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Very true, my photon scored higher than my evo 3D across the board but i know the 1.2 dual snapdragon can out perform the tegra 2 anyday. Owning a 3D for a month was awful though lol. So glad i got my photon.
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That's cool i respect your opinion dude but you'll learn someday that with Android benchmarks don't mean ****. Why care who's phone scores the highest i could care less abt adding inches to my e-penis. Also, Undervolting has been around for a while and isn't unstable where have you been? You might be one of the few people who still believes overclocking is the ****.....
I know how fast my phone is based on performance and benchmark apps arent an indicator of speed/performance. Most bench apps only run one core to test they don't support dual so?
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I do think overclocking is the ****. I do it as a passion, but undervolting isn't the best way to go. Yes it can be stable with undervolting, but I think you can go way to far also. And there are apps out there that test both cores, and there will be more out there that test both cores. Dual-core phones are still pretty new. But its really a moot point, I like it, you don't, we can leave it at that. I am going to try to start working on kernels myself and learning about them. Maybe I will come up with something you like that gets the best of both worlds. I would love for there to be a kernel out that you could just switch modes. High performance, and low battery use. etc. I don't just mean governor switching, switching the kernel, I'm sure that would require just reflashing different kernels, but maybe someday it wont.
-DJ
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Very true, my photon scored higher than my evo 3D across the board but i know the 1.2 dual snapdragon can out perform the tegra 2 anyday. Owning a 3D for a month was awful though lol. So glad i got my photon.
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I believe you are completely wrong here, the 3d sucked. The Photon can crush that snapdragon chip. I too had the 3d, but I know the Photon outperforms that thing by a long shot. The 3d was an asynchronous processor, the tegra is not.
http://www.intomobile.com/2011/03/24/nvidia-tegra-2-outperforms-qualcomm-dualcore-1015/
I found this to be quite neat:
As an upstart in the mobile industry, NVIDIA is moving at a lightning-fast pace. The company is already working on a quad-core processor called Kal-El and this should be in a retail product as early as August.
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Ppl say snapdragon is faster because of what the chip can do theoretically but in real world it can only playback 1080p videos smoother.
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I have both the evo3d and the photon, I know for a fact that the evo3d is faster, the E3d overall just feels snappier and never had a problem with lag. The proton on the other hand would frequently lag when im running tune in and using another app like the browser or while texting. The EVO or the evo3d never did that. Ill go out and say that I feel the proton is all around better phone as far as build and quality goes, but it does not beat the Evo3d as far as processing power, multitasking and efficiency, and that's in real world use.
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I have both the evo3d and the photon, I know for a fact that the evo3d is faster, the E3d overall just feels snappier and never had a problem with lag. The proton on the other hand would frequently lag when im running tune in and using another app like the browser or while texting. The EVO or the evo3d never did that. Ill go out and say that I feel the proton is all around better phone as far as build and quality goes, but it does not beat the Evo3d as far as processing power, multitasking and efficiency, and that's in real world use.
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^^^^^ +1 on this. Tegra is more about gpu/gfx while dual snap dragon is all about raw processing power. Though this is my first tegra device and i must say its amazing but the dual snap has more power. Im a huge nvidia fan by the way and these processors are just amazing. Cant wait to see tablets shipping with quad core nvidia processors!
Yea I never really played any games, my evo3d had too many touch screen issues lol.
I won't own another HTC phone. I don't care what processor it has. Unless it can either A) Dive for me or B) Build my cars I have no interest what so ever in it. So I'm happy with the chipset we have. :]
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^^^^^ +1 on this. Tegra is more about gpu/gfx while dual snap dragon is all about raw processing power. Though this is my first tegra device and i must say its amazing but the dual snap has more power. Im a huge nvidia fan by the way and these processors are just amazing. Cant wait to see tablets shipping with quad core nvidia processors!
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I don't think you even read my link, it is proven that the tegra has 10-15% more power thn the snap. regardless of what you think you can 'feel' real numbers do tell quite a bit. More than you can tell by 'feeling'.
Not saying that your specific phone isn't faster than your specific other phone, but in real time and real life, the tegra is 10-15% faster than the snap. Sorry.
-DJ
I have the Photon, Evo 3d, and Now the Epic, and still have my OG Evo, here are my personal stats
Photon: amazing and the smoothest for gaming
Evo 3d: pretty much amazing with everything
Epic: fast and smooth and best for battery life
OG Evo: best for customization, ROM flashing, kernal flashing, and for lasting the longest out of every sprint smartphone
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I don't think you even read my link, it is proven that the tegra has 10-15% more power thn the snap. regardless of what you think you can 'feel' real numbers do tell quite a bit. More than you can tell by 'feeling'.
Not saying that your specific phone isn't faster than your specific other phone, but in real time and real life, the tegra is 10-15% faster than the snap. Sorry.
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Lol you're funny bro. I did read your link and it doesn't prove anything. You give me a link from a site dated 3/24/11 when the 3D wasn't even around neither were dual core snap dragons and you expect me to just all of a sudden believe a tegra 2 can out perform a dual snap? Lololol you're getting your information from some site thats barely credible and they start their article with "NVIDIA SAID". No **** nvidia will SAY their product is better bro! Just because that site said 10-15% in march doesnt mean its proven. Cmon dude you can do better than that, thanks for the morning laugh though! Now let me tell you again, dual core snap dragon packs more POWER than the tegra 2 and out performs it no matter what old outdated article you're believing in! SORRY....
Dual core snap dragon runs circles around the tegra 2. Talking out of your ass is never a good idea
http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/8484/20110912125517.jpg
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/2179/20110912125531.jpg
Go compare the devices yourself @ http://www.glbenchmark.com/
Lol
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I downloaded a couple of games off the nvidia game zone, I am very impressed with the quality of games and how well they run. Im gonna probably sink a lot of money into it lol. As far as nvidia vs snapdragon, its all and always been about personal preference. Both perform well for what they're designed to do.
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Lol you're funny bro. I did read your link and it doesn't prove anything. You give me a link from a site dated 3/24/11 when the 3D wasn't even around neither were dual core snap dragons and you expect me to just all of a sudden believe a tegra 2 can out perform a dual snap? Lololol you're getting your information from some site thats barely credible and they start their article with "NVIDIA SAID". No **** nvidia will SAY their product is better bro! Just because that site said 10-15% in march doesnt mean its proven. Cmon dude you can do better than that, thanks for the morning laugh though! Now let me tell you again, dual core snap dragon packs more POWER than the tegra 2 and out performs it no matter what old outdated article you're believing in! SORRY....
Dual core snap dragon runs circles around the tegra 2. Talking out of your ass is never a good idea
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Woah bud, I never meant it like that. But an asynchronous cpu will not out perform our tegra2 chips, sorry but you are wrong. I am not sure as to why the hostility, was just making you aware of yes, what nvidia said, but it is true. That is simple physics. Thats why when the evo 3d got overclocked the performance increase wasn't ****. I had one too, I know all about it. One of the reasons I got the photon. But no matter, believe whatever you want. No sweat off my back. Those benchmarks mean nothing to me by the way, sorry.
Hard to have a simple debate on these forums. Sucks
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Woah bud, I never meant it like that. But an asynchronous cpu will not out perform our tegra2 chips, sorry but you are wrong. I am not sure as to why the hostility, was just making you aware of yes, what nvidia said, but it is true. That is simple physics. Thats why when the evo 3d got overclocked the performance increase wasn't ****. I had one too, I know all about it. One of the reasons I got the photon. But no matter, believe whatever you want. No sweat off my back. Those benchmarks mean nothing to me by the way, sorry.
Hard to have a simple debate on these forums. Sucks
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Those benchmarks mean nothing but some random site that simply said its 10% better does lol? What are you going to base you statement off then? Can make a claim without facts right? I gave you facts that REAL WORLD test prove dual snapdragon is more powerful, faster, and etc. You're just saying "sorry you're wrong" id say you're the one that doesn't know how to debate. I mean you're asking for a debate but you got nothing but your word and some sketchy old website....lol
Not sure if anyone else has tried these tweaks with the atgs2 yet. I used them on my infuse and loved them, so decided to try them on Unnamed and they work great. I definitely notice the phone is faster and more responsive. Doesnt matter but quad scores went up too, my highest was 5,126 while overclocked to 1.6
Do our phones really need this? I can't see any difference
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I read that when in cwm you have to flash it twice. first time it aborted 2nd time it went finished. Maybe its just me but i notice a slight difference
Most of those tweaks either don't really do anything, aren't optimized for a device with 1GB RAM, or have potential serious negative side effects.
I believe that acidtweaks disables a bunch of filesystem syncs, which puts it in the "dangerous" category. (I am positive Samsung Adrenaline Shot does...) Of course, he doesn't bother to warn you of this.
If these tweaks were really THAT good with no negative impacts, they'd be Google's defaults.
I personally use these tweaks http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
They work great, been using them ever since I had my captivate and wont run a ROM without these.
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I personally use these tweaks http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
They work great, been using them ever since I had my captivate and wont run a ROM without these.
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Those leaks are pointless... They optimize the lowmemkiller for a device with low memory - but that is NOT what our device is, we have 1GB RAM. I'd be surprised if many people have ever triggered the LMK at all on the GSII.
It not just the LMK that gets tweaked. The OOM gets tweak and a lot more that I don't understand. I don't know how you say it useless because I can tell a difference
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Is a speed tweak even necesary with this phone? This thing is so fast and smooth, I can't see it getting any faster. Seeing that it's lightning fast right out of the box, I think these tweaks would have to make it significantly faster to even notice. I"m speaking of OS operations only. I"d like to have faster browsing but I think that's more a function of ATT giving us more. The ONLY lag I have is the home button lag that is caused by the voice command. There's a fix but I kinda like VC right now.
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Those leaks are pointless... They optimize the lowmemkiller for a device with low memory - but that is NOT what our device is, we have 1GB RAM. I'd be surprised if many people have ever triggered the LMK at all on the GSII.
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All I know is that they have a setting just for devices with a gig of ram
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Most of those tweaks either don't really do anything, aren't optimized for a device with 1GB RAM, or have potential serious negative side effects.
I believe that acidtweaks disables a bunch of filesystem syncs, which puts it in the "dangerous" category. (I am positive Samsung Adrenaline Shot does...) Of course, he doesn't bother to warn you of this.
If these tweaks were really THAT good with no negative impacts, they'd be Google's defaults.
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Thanks Entropy I know you from the infuse, you definitely know what your talking about. so you recommend I uninstall the tweaks?
For the convenience of writing,Overclock shall be referred to as OC.
So,the Ace has started recieving OC kernels,which is a good thing but OC is dangerous too.I decided to make a thread and warn all users who don't know much and overclock.So,with this thread,I intend to educate all newbies about OCing before users start bricking their phone.
I shall write about overclocking,what overclocking does and then discuss abotut the various advantages and disadvantages it comes with
WHAT IS OVERCLOCKING?
Overclocking is the process of operating a computer component at a higher clock rate.In our case,the processor.Most people overclock their phones for perfomance but this so-called perfomance comes at a price which every user who oc should know about.So,I am going to discuss it
Android phones are clocked at a safe level when we buy it.However,we exceed this 'safe level' when oc it.
ADVANTAGES OF OVERCLOCKING:
1.Perfomance-OCing gives perfomance and thats what most people go after when they oc.
2.Cost-saving-Some people who have extensive knowledge about OCing do it to save money.For eg-Some people claim that they can get clock speeds upto 1GHz
when they oc.SGS has a clock speed of 1GHz(but when they overclock,they get better speeds I just put this one in so that people can have better knowledge)
DISADVANTAGES OF OVERCLOCKING:
1.Excess heat production-OCing produces more heat,nothing to be added
2.Lifespan decreases-By overclocking to extreme levels,you are actually killing your phone.Because of the excess heat generated,some interior parts may get damages.
3.Damage to GPU-Because of the heat generated(i think)
4.Excess Battery consumption-Because of the intense heat generated and the unusual number of charge cycles,battery consumption becomes high.As you might already know,Ace's battery is really suckish.With OC,its going to be even worse.
5.Permanent effects-If you were having weird effects when you OCed for a long time,you are not going to feel much better when you right-clock again
6.Instability-Stability levels of various phones vary Some get OC speeds near 1GHz while others are having trouble getting over 900MHz
7.FCs,Reboots and other errors-You have a chance of getting constant reboots and FCs when you OC,it depends.Some have even complainde of their touchscreen having complains when they switch to OC kernel
FINAL WORDS:
IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING,DON'T DO IT
OCing experiences/Suggestions:
Valakas:
Im used to OCing almost all the PC's i had, and my SGA wasnt an exception but sadly i didnt notice any huge improvement in the performance or in the lags i had in some huge games.
OC is a good way of wasting battery life and perhaps burn your phone. i wouldnt advise anybody to do it because its just not worthy.
P4qui7o:
I better get a new and stronger phone instead doing this !
Anyway you're phone is gonna "howl" some day after OC, and if you don't have money to buy another one, you've better keep it at 800Hz, stock ... my opinion
Yukinok25:
I have been OC's my HTC HERO since I bought it (2009), it's an old ARMv6 525mhz, which I pushed to 710mhz/MAX.
I NEVER had any issue for my OC's, I obviously can say that it becames maybe slightly warmer than the stock clock but nothing near hot.
Thanks to this, my Hero is running all the lastest rom with no lag for this two years, and so the other people in the Hero forum (basically 90% of the people OC's).
I am agree with the opener that OC's could be dangerous and it might decrease the lifespan of your device, but I also think it depends on the hardware, and I am not agree when I just read is "not" useful, because it DOES give a huge boost to your device.
Besides you can undervolting your CPU when your smartphone is in Idle (my MIN is 19 mhz), so the heat won't be generated anymore, you will save battery life, and the paradox... you will extend the life cicle of your CPU.
Also keep in mind that developers are improving the OC's working on new governors and kernels all the time.
There are risks also when we flash a rom or a new radio version, but that doesn't mean they are not useful. We flash them because we want to enhance our devices
Pardon me,if there are any mistakes,technical or grammatical,if i have missed anything.
Thanx to Wikipedia,PujitJuneja and Google
P.S. I didn't copy-paste it from anywhere,wrote it all down.So,a click on the thanks button will be greatly appreciated
Cheers
I think this was a good piece to explain risks and rewards of OCing.
All d noobies should take a look at this.
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EmoBoiix3 said:
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Empty Reply?
Anyways, this is an awesome thread for people who don't know a lot about Overclocking
EmoBoiix3 said:
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Whats that supposed to be,empty post?
pujitjuneja said:
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Anyways, this is an awesome thread for people who don't know a lot about Overclocking
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Couldnt have done it without you
I better get a new and stronger phone instead doing this !
Anyway you're phone is gonna "howl" some day after OC, and if you don't have money to buy another one, you've better keep it at 800Hz, stock ... my opinion
Prawesome said:
Couldnt have done it without you
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Hehe, always happy to help (Well only for some people )
Thank for ur info
devilsking said:
Thank for ur info
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Well done
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Great work!
And to add to this maybe..
The battery will get effed up pretty soon coz of the rapid discharging and the more than usual number of charge cycles and also the heat
Im used to OC almost all the PC's i had, and my SGA wouldnt be the exception to that rule. But sadly i didnt notice any huge improve in the performance or in the lags i had in some huge games.
OC is a good way of wasting battery life and perhaps burn your phone. i wouldnt advise anybody to do it because its just not worthy.
Thanx for the suggestion guyz...Will add them
Without cooler (radiator) OC on SGA its a danger experiment-be care full. Sorry for my weak English.
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Thanks for the useful info here ....
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Thanks for the useful info here ....
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Anytime
PafcioPjay said:
Without cooler (radiator) OC on SGA its a danger experiment-be care full. Sorry for my weak English.
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Its already written-heating effect
Anyone check this out?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032
http://lifehacker.com/5973002/seeder-kills-lag-in-android-seriously-boosts-your-phones-performance
Sounds legit, but seems android team at google says it isn't...
bigworm50 said:
Anyone check this out?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032
http://lifehacker.com/5973002/seeder-kills-lag-in-android-seriously-boosts-your-phones-performance
Sounds legit, but seems android team at google says it isn't...
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Ha, ha! I just posted a thread about this in the "General" sub forum. I'm running it on both my OG and N7, and I haven't tried any massive games yet on either, but I did notice a significant decrease in just general loading times for things like Facebook, Chrome and the stock launcher on my Nexus 7. Can't tell a difference on my OG, but then, I've never noticed any lag on it either. Maybe if someone could run a benchmark it might give us some additional info.
It makes no difference in Quadrant scores on the LGOG the scores with and without were the same.. I have two friends who are using it on the Nexus 7 that both claim speed increases, as for on my LGOG I have been running it for a couple days and can't really tell if it does anything or not.. This phone already doesn't lag.
whoamanwtf said:
It makes no difference in Quadrant scores on the LGOG the scores with and without were the same.. I have two friends who are using it on the Nexus 7 that both claim speed increases, as for on my LGOG I have been running it for a couple days and can't really tell if it does anything or not.. This phone already doesn't lag.
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I figured as much. The only reason I put it on my OG was because I'd already bought the app in the Play Store (support the devs :good, so figured I'd try it out. Due to the minor security concerns and possible battery issue, I'll probably just disable it until the day comes when I find my phone lagging. Hopfully waaaay in the future.
Looks like it's been debunked already..
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/entropy-seed-generator-not-all-its-hacked-up-to-be/
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Looks like it's been debunked already..
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/entropy-seed-generator-not-all-its-hacked-up-to-be/
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Not quite. It's still being hotly debated. It's just that XDA is withdrawing their "seal of approval" until this gets settled. It might be placebo, but my Nexus 7 was loading apps noticably faster (in my mind anyway). I'll have to time the loading of some apps later to unscientifically compare. Might run some benchmarks too just for S&G.
Edit: As of right now, it seems that everyone has confirmed it DOES speed up the Nexus 7 and some other devices, but they're still trying to figure out exactly why it works: https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=42265