ok, so I picked up the VZW Touch Pro tonight. Everything is great except for the sucky feeling I got jipped on memory compared to the Sprint.
Those of you who bought the Sprint model and have Verizon service, did Verizon still honor any warranty or insurance service on it? My big fear is I pay cash to Sprint for the phone, flash it to work on Verizon, and then I drop it, etc.
While I don't think the memory limit is going to hurt me much today, with 6.5 coming out I suspect it might.
What to do, what to do...
I bought my TP from ebay, it worked great for a month then the charge port broke. I bought spare batteries and chargers and used it for a while because nobody (verizon or sprint) would warranty the phone. Then, a bad flash reset the phone to having a msl of NOT 000000 anddwiping the MIN and MDN back to 0's.
I bought a squaretrade warranty at the time from ebay, so the device is off getting fixed and I am using my titan again for the time being. I f they fix the phone (warranty was a little under $50) then it is the same price as insurance and I will be happy. I can only report my opinions after I receive a working device back though
Moral of this story: If you do not have the original receipt, HTC will not warranty it. Verizons insurance wont cover a sprint phone, most you would get back is a verizon Pro. Sprint won't touch it unless you have a line of service with them.
Hope this squaretrade deal works out...
Kdj,
I'd be really curious how this works out for you, as I have 29 days to decide if I want to go that route.
My Titan ear piece speaker died and VZW swapped it out no problem. I would hate to have something similar with the TP, and not be able to get it fixed.
Good luck!
Yeah, I will definitely chime in on this thread when I get it back. Should be within a week if they work as fast as they claim!
So far, I filed a claim online with them, they emailed me a prepaid UPS returns label and I printed it and stuck it on a box and it is enroute as we speak. If they are able to replace or repair it and have it back in a reasonable fashion I will be pleased.
I also would be very interested in seeing your results. I have a Verizon Touch Pro I got about 2 weeks ago and am loving it so far but also cant help but feel like I got jipped with the -96mb.......... but there is a certain ammount of security in buying from Verizon , you get great support and service for your Verizon device that you wont be getting for the Sprint one from either provider.
Anyways I am waiting to hear your results. Thanks!
Verizon only provides my data and voice access, XDA and PPCgeeks provide the rest!
As an update Squaretrade has received my pro, so I am really getting anxious as to how this proceeds from here. I have been doing research about squaretrade, and most things I hear are good. But I have yet to read anything but random posts or articles saying they are good. Does anybody know personally or can give testimony to the quality of worksmanship they can provide?
Would any body like to see a thread specifically devoted to Squaretrade warranties and feedback from actual users? If this pans out, a one year warranty from them is cheaper than most providers Asurion policies. Maybe I will start a thread in the general section...
Easy answer!
Guys listen up. I was with Verizon for several years and I must say their network and coverage is great. BUT Verizon's pricing is way up there and I was paying a lot every month for 2 Blackberries with data plans and 3000 minutes. $300+ per month got old after about a year of those outrageous bills kept coming each month. So I started shopping all the carriers service plans and NO carrier can compete with Sprint's pricing and plan packages or offer as much as Sprint does for the money. And these days money is an important thing to be using sparingly and we all need to watch our spending. So I jumped ship from Verizon and hopped on Sprint's "Simply Everything" plan and my bill for 2 pda's with unlimited everything Sprint has to offer is only half of what I was paying over at Verizon. And I was only getting 3000 minutes and data with nothing else. I had to pay extra for the text messaging plan. You get the idea...
So now that I got all that out of the way lets get to the question at hand. Which Touch Pro should a person go with??? Ofcourse I went with the Sprint version. (the Verizon version is too square and the sharp corners make it ugly to me as well as less memory and crippled ofcourse as always with Verizon devices). There are a few factors you need to concider when making your decision to stay with the Verizon version or to go with the Sprint version.
1. Network? First things first...decide which network works best for you where you will be using your service most of the time. If the network's coverage in your area blows then don't go with that carrier no matter which device they have that you want.
2. Pricing? If this is of any concern to you then there is an obvious winner in this dept. It's Sprint hands down! You get literally everything for one low flat rate so no suprize phone bills.
3. Devices offered by the two carriers Sprint and Verizon. Both carriers have nice offerings BUT Verizon is famous for crippling their phones while Sprint does not. (another big reason I left Verizon... locked gps on my verizon Blackberry and others and forcing customers to pay extra for a factory equipped gps chip had me furious to say the least! Sprint devices have gps that is as free as a bird to use with any 3rd party app of your choosing).
4. Customer Service??? Honestly Verizon and Sprint both have good customer service so that's not such a concern here.
5. Device warranty? Both carriers are equal in that dept. too. Very good for both.
OK... knowing what I know now, if I were you guys I would return the Verizon Touch Pro asap if you are still within your 30 day "no worry guarantee" period and go over to Sprint and pick up their Touch Pro which is better in every way. Appearance is nicer looking, more memory, gps isn't locked, etc. And ofcourse you are going to save a lot of money AND get a lot more at the same time. That's a win win if you ask me!
Since I've been with Sprint, apx. 6 months) I have had very good network coverage, call quality, etc. It is at least as good as Verizon if not better. Oh there is one thing that is definetely better with Sprint... it's data speeds are far faster than Verizon. This I do know for a fact because I used data with Verizon on several pda devices the past 3 years or so. Sprint's data speeds are faster. If you are stuck in a Verizon contract then your stuck unless you are willing to pay early termination fees. If you're currently with Sprint then you are in the right place. As for using a Sprint branded Touch Pro on Verizon's network, I didn't know Verizon started allowing non Verizon branded devices on it's network. But if they do then that's all good but you will not be doing the Sprint Touch Pro any justice since Verizon doesn't offer what Sprint does. And it would be simply dumb to activate a Verizon branded Touch Pro on Sprint's network, if that's even possible. I tried to activate my Verizon BlackBerry Curve on my Sprint account and that was a huge big fat negative. The device esn's are in each carrier's data bases and if it's from a different carrier then they will not activate it period. That goes for both Sprint and Verizon. I know Sprint will not do it. Verizon on the other hand unless they just recently started allowing non Verizon branded devices on their network, they will not do it either. The bottom line in my post is to go with the better device (Sprint's Touch Pro) on a very good network with awesome plan pricing as well as all the bells and whistles that you can't get with Verizon. Did I mention Sprint is a lot cheaper??? HELL YES I DID!!!
It's a no brainer guys. times are getting rough so you better start thinking about saving $$$ anywhere you can! And we all no that we will pay our cell phone bills no matter what and not pay something else if it comes down to it. Sorry for the long post and I hope this helps some people put some thought into the subject.
That is the classic Sprint convert post
Thanks for your opinion, but sprint and verizons data networks are prety much the same. In the northwest for the most part in far out places that I travel, sprint users have to roam ont verizon network to make calls and data roaming is a whole other animal. I agree that sprint has better pricing and their coverage is getting better. Sprint does not have any roaming agreements with ACS to my knowledge, which serves alaska especially on the kenai peninsula where I travel often. I am not sure if there are many if any GSM coverage up there, as no one in alaska outside of anchorage that I have ran into uses ATT or tmobile. These are my observations and I could be wrong, but when I take my verizon phones to alaska, they play nice with ACS and even recently have allowed EVDO data roaming for me which is nice. I even roam with telus and bell out of canada for reasonable rates. Lets not start another Ford/Chevy/Dodge/Verizon/Sprint/ATT debate
Kinda back on topic, I started a thread in the general section regarding getting opinions on Squaretrade if anyone is looking for options on insuring their Sprint/Alltel/whatever device on a foreign network:
HERE And I hope we can get some feedback.
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That is the classic Sprint convert post
Thanks for your opinion, but sprint and verizons data networks are prety much the same. In the northwest for the most part in far out places that I travel, sprint users have to roam ont verizon network to make calls and data roaming is a whole other animal. I agree that sprint has better pricing and their coverage is getting better. Sprint does not have any roaming agreements with ACS to my knowledge, which serves alaska especially on the kenai peninsula where I travel often. I am not sure if there are many if any GSM coverage up there, as no one in alaska outside of anchorage that I have ran into uses ATT or tmobile. These are my observations and I could be wrong, but when I take my verizon phones to alaska, they play nice with ACS and even recently have allowed EVDO data roaming for me which is nice. I even roam with telus and bell out of canada for reasonable rates. Lets not start another Ford/Chevy/Dodge/Verizon/Sprint/ATT debate
Kinda back on topic, I started a thread in the general section regarding getting opinions on Squaretrade if anyone is looking for options on insuring their Sprint/Alltel/whatever device on a foreign network:
HERE And I hope we can get some feedback.
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It's true Verizon has great coverage and roaming agreements. In your case living way out where you live/work you probably don't have too many choices and gsm networks just suck so that's totally out of the question, especially for you. As for most people, we live in metro areas that have good coverage where we commute on a daily basis. As for my post being a "classic" Sprint convert... sorry I wasted your time but it's my personal take and nothing that needs to be titled as classic or however you see it way out in the boonies where you live.
Back to the post topic... Does Verizon even allow non Verizon devices to be activated on their network? The Sprint devices esn's will not be in Verizon's database so even if you flash the Sprint Touch Pro with Verizon firmware that's still not going to change the esn or rebrand the device. Someone enlighten me if this carrier policy has been lifted...
There is a large thread on ppcgeeks devoted to getting Sprints touch pro on verizon network. I have one that was fully functional (minus the charge port issues stated) and the process has worked for various other HTC models including the diamond and mogul too. If you can load a verizon PRL on a device and change the MSL to 000000, it can be on verizons network. Verizon customers can call *228 and choose option 3, which programs whatever phone your calling from to your account and number.
And calm down, I was teasing you about being a sprint convert!
So technically, we know we CAN use a Sprint phone on the Verizon network. It's just the "What if it dies" factor is still there. It's not an inexpensive device, so the thought of carrying it around all day, potentially losing it, is pretty deterring.
Let's hope your warranty works out
I agree with tx_dbs_tx. He gave pros and cons for both sides. I personally agree with him choosing Sprint's version over Verizon's for the performance, memory, and looks of the device. The Sprint Pro is slick and sturdy, there data speeds ARE faster than Verizon's and I have seen the numbers to prove it. Sprint's data is the #1 reason I have service with them, #2 reason is the great prices, #3 the insurance and service and repair is nice and have always had good luck with that. If you REALLY want to do it, and have found the correct way to use the device on that network then go for it, but you won't be disappointed with Sprint.
Thank you all for your opinions, but the original topic was about insuring the device, not which service is better.
As a little update, they sent me an email today saying my device had been repaired and it has already left via UPS second day air. Got an email with tracking number from UPS too. I think they may exchange it for a refurb unit for how fast it took them, but I am not too concerned with that. Post back with final results in a few days.
So far, I am pleased with my experience regarding Squaretrade.
For anyone interested, Squaretrade fixed my charge port and shipped my Touch pro back the same day they received it. I got the actual same device back and the port works and I have been able to reprogram it and get it working again. For $47.99 and no deductible for part failure I would definitely say it was worth it to buy their warranty.
They even replaced the little friction slide in my stylus hole that I accidently ripped out trying to take it apart They stand behind their claims and are inexpensive, so I would recommend them to anyone buying phones off of ebay.
I bought a sprint TP on ebay after trying the phone @ both Sprint and Verizon. The verizon phone had a lag by comparison. Memory is the key here. Interestingly enough the Verizon party line is that they lowered the memory to keep the cost down. HMMM... They still charge more than Sprint for the phone.
Moving the phone off Sprint to Verizon was not for the faint of heart, but not all that difficult if you are willing to invest the time. The one thing you will have to put up with (at least I have not figured it out) is that the phone will show that you are roaming at all times.
Oh, and the Sprint phone looks better...
IMHO
You can definately move devices between networks.
You need QPST 2.7.3+, DUMA KEYS, YOUR MSID, bITPIM, MODEM DRIVER, and some guts.
You can find good instructions and tools @ PPC GEEKS.
Search "Sprint Touch Pro on VZW Network Tutorial "
MM
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I bought a sprint TP on ebay after trying the phone @ both Sprint and Verizon. The verizon phone had a lag by comparison. Memory is the key here. Interestingly enough the Verizon party line is that they lowered the memory to keep the cost down. HMMM... They still charge more than Sprint for the phone.
Moving the phone off Sprint to Verizon was not for the faint of heart, but not all that difficult if you are willing to invest the time. The one thing you will have to put up with (at least I have not figured it out) is that the phone will show that you are roaming at all times.
Oh, and the Sprint phone looks better...
IMHO
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There are some patched PRLs over at ppcgeeks that gets rid of the roaming triangle, and you can use QPST to change your carrier banner. I never was able to update my ERI.
Thanks. I actually found those after leaving my post. The ERI did not work for me either.
First let me say i just joined xdz last night am brand new so please be patient and i apologize if i waist someone's time.
second, I am paying almost $120 for sprint w/o 4G access. I have been thinking of switching to Boost or straight talk and from my research, boost seems to be the best comparison to what i have now. that being said, i have been reading how to make the evo 3d work on boost, but honestly, i'm not tech savvy enough to do it myself. i have found someone on craigslist that says the evo 3d can work on boost, that i can port my number from sprint to boost, & for $100 and if i "go to teamviewer.com and download for personal use, send user id and password created a tech will login and verify computer to confirm". I am skeptical of this 1. to allow some one access to my computer from who knows where and bu who know who. 2. paying an unknown person money for something that may or may not work.
my questions are:
1. is the HTC EVO 3d able to be used on boost? is it worth paying someone to see if it can be done or instead, spend the money for a bb style (since the current android lineup for boost seems under par)?
2. am i better off buying an used boost phone then try to get my 3d switched or going to a boos location and purchase the cheapest phone there?
3. am i better off sticking with sprint untill june 2013 then see what is available both in competition and technology?
I want to save as much money as i can (in the long run the money i save by switching is still more even with paying an etf if i have too) and I want the best service I can get.
What is your advice? Thank you for your assistance.
I am flashed over to Cricket. Boost is also cdma if I remember, so theoretically , yes. I personally get good 3g coverage. You wont get 4g tho,.
So I have an EVO LTE, and have a couple questions.
Okay, so my question is, if I'm on a corporate/business account, how do a switch phones if said business is closed? Like, say, I drop my phone on the weekend or something? Here's a bit of back story:
My university offers their own wireless program (sprint, vzw, att) and I picked sprint. I pay a discounted rate, and I get corporate PRL's, which makes me assume they have one massive corporate account and they sell phones from it to students. Seems semi-not-legal, but meh, my phone plan is like $60 a month so I can't complain at all.
I'm wondering how I can switch phones on my own. Before noob-flaming me, keep in mind I've had GSM phones my entire phone-life and just swapped out sims. This is my first CDMA phone. If my phone were to break, let's say, during spring break when my university is closed down, what could I do? Am I still able to call sprint and activate a backup phone? Or am I totally SOL? I'm not sure of Sprint's corporate limitations. Anybody have any idea of whether or not I could actually switch phones without going through my university? If so, how would I do that?
Thanks in advance for any help!
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So I have an EVO LTE, and have a couple questions.
Okay, so my question is, if I'm on a corporate/business account, how do a switch phones if said business is closed? Like, say, I drop my phone on the weekend or something? Here's a bit of back story:
My university offers their own wireless program (sprint, vzw, att) and I picked sprint. I pay a discounted rate, and I get corporate PRL's, which makes me assume they have one massive corporate account and they sell phones from it to students. Seems semi-not-legal, but meh, my phone plan is like $60 a month so I can't complain at all.
I'm wondering how I can switch phones on my own. Before noob-flaming me, keep in mind I've had GSM phones my entire phone-life and just swapped out sims. This is my first CDMA phone. If my phone were to break, let's say, during spring break when my university is closed down, what could I do? Am I still able to call sprint and activate a backup phone? Or am I totally SOL? I'm not sure of Sprint's corporate limitations. Anybody have any idea of whether or not I could actually switch phones without going through my university? If so, how would I do that?
Thanks in advance for any help!
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Regardless of what kind of account it is, you need to do an esn swap on it. This has to be done at Sprint's end, via an online tool, chat, customer care, store, etc. I have dealt with business accounts before, they are similar to personal accounts. The chat on business accounts is way better they don't treat you like a newb & it's way quicker. I'm not sure on a corporate account, I would have to think if you have a corporate account you would not be responsible for the bill at which point you would have to contact whoever is in charge of the phone program. If you have a login/pass to sprint to pay your bill you can just do the esn swap yourself. I use the online tool and if it's down I use chat. I can't stand calling or going to the store so I use other methods. Another tip the online esn swap tool works best if you are swapping for similar phones. Example, Evo LTE to Samsung GSIII. These are both LTE phones so they are provisioned similarly. Now if you are going from say evo LTE to an older evo 3D or wimax phone I would just skip the tool and use chat. It will prompt you to change your plan because technically you are changing your plan even though your really not. I wish sprint would fix this but they haven't at least last time I checked. So as long as you pay your own bill you can do the ESN swap yourself via the methods described above. Keep in mind if it's 3 in the morning on Sat you are at the mercy of the online tool which a lot of times Sprint takes the site down at night for maintenance or you will run into issues if you are swapping LTE to Wimax or non-4g phone since they provision these phones differently.
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Regardless of what kind of account it is, you need to do an esn swap on it. This has to be done at Sprint's end, via an online tool, chat, customer care, store, etc. I have dealt with business accounts before, they are similar to personal accounts. The chat on business accounts is way better they don't treat you like a newb & it's way quicker. I'm not sure on a corporate account, I would have to think if you have a corporate account you would not be responsible for the bill at which point you would have to contact whoever is in charge of the phone program. If you have a login/pass to sprint to pay your bill you can just do the esn swap yourself. I use the online tool and if it's down I use chat. I can't stand calling or going to the store so I use other methods. Another tip the online esn swap tool works best if you are swapping for similar phones. Example, Evo LTE to Samsung GSIII. These are both LTE phones so they are provisioned similarly. Now if you are going from say evo LTE to an older evo 3D or wimax phone I would just skip the tool and use chat. It will prompt you to change your plan because technically you are changing your plan even though your really not. I wish sprint would fix this but they haven't at least last time I checked. So as long as you pay your own bill you can do the ESN swap yourself via the methods described above. Keep in mind if it's 3 in the morning on Sat you are at the mercy of the online tool which a lot of times Sprint takes the site down at night for maintenance or you will run into issues if you are swapping LTE to Wimax or non-4g phone since they provision these phones differently.
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Thank you for the information! I heard that there was an online tool thing, I pay my own bill and get one monthly, so I'm assuming I'm considered "responsible" for my own account. I may test this out by switching to my roommate's S3 via online, and if that doesn't work, via chat. I just don't want to be SOL this spring break, especially since I'll be traveling haha
So I want to take advantage of the HTC One $100 trade-up promotion which has a purchase deadline of 5/19. I ordered the unlocked version from Letstalk.com and they pushed it back until the end of May. I'm thinking of ordering it from T-Mobile's website instead. My question is in regards to the activation process.
My current AT&T's billing cycle ends on May 27th. Thus, I don't want to switch service until then, but I must meet the 5/19 HTC One Trade-up promotion deadline of 5/19. Can I go ahead and order from T-Mobile, get the device, and not activate it until 5/27? The number porting doesn't happen until I activate right? Or does it happen as soon as I checkout from the T-Mobile site?
You can skip the number porting when you order. I had to in order to get my phone to actually ship. When you activate, you'll get a temp number. Simply call t-mobile, say you want to port, give them the info for both accounts, and you'll be ported in the next 24 hours (aka when original carrier gives up the number).
Just did it today, extremely painless.
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You can skip the number porting when you order. I had to in order to get my phone to actually ship. When you activate, you'll get a temp number. Simply call t-mobile, say you want to port, give them the info for both accounts, and you'll be ported in the next 24 hours (aka when original carrier gives up the number).
Just did it today, extremely painless.
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Hm. Would service for TMobile start when I activate then? I don't want service to overlap. Would your method allow me to receive the phone, sit on it until the end of May, call in to activate, then port my #, then have my TMobile plan start at the end of May?
I don't know that, as I haven't gotten a bill so I've been unable to determine if it started when shipped or when activated.
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I don't know that, as I haven't gotten a bill so I've been unable to determine if it started when shipped or when activated.
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So I called T-Mobile and asked about activating once I received the equipment. They said they can do a delay activation so I can go ahead and place the order now for the HTC One. I did. They said I can call in at the end of the month to activate service and port my number! I should be getting the phone next week.
Now this brings up a new dilemma. My original intent was just to get the phone and go with T-Mobile's $30 prepaid plan. The T-Mobile stores either wouldn't sell me the phone straight up or are out of stock. What is stopping me from just getting the phone, never activating it with the $50 plan, and just activate it with the $30 plan instead?
By the way, I learned the entire remaining balance on the phone becomes due once you cancel service with them. I keep hearing people say you continue to pay the $20/month for the phone. Nope!
the 12 on page plus isnt available on the rezound, since thats the case whats the cheapest plan one can get on the rezound with just 3g and a couple hundred minutes? i do also have some donor phones for a meid swap (not sure about the legality of that, but i do outright own both the donor phone and the rezound, not sure if that makes a difference). I have heard a friend of mine using cdma workshop to do the swap, and from my understanding it is legal if you outright own both phones and never sell the MEID donor phone. Basically, im just looking at getting a rezound to have voice capability for emergency purposes for a child, otherwise its strictly on wifi for goofing off purposes.
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the 12 on page plus isnt available on the rezound, since thats the case whats the cheapest plan one can get on the rezound with just 3g and a couple hundred minutes? i do also have some donor phones for a meid swap (not sure about the legality of that, but i do outright own both the donor phone and the rezound, not sure if that makes a difference). I have heard a friend of mine using cdma workshop to do the swap, and from my understanding it is legal if you outright own both phones and never sell the MEID donor phone. Basically, im just looking at getting a rezound to have voice capability for emergency purposes for a child, otherwise its strictly on wifi for goofing off purposes.
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Why not just get a cheap voice only GSM prepaid SIM? You don't have to go through anything special as long as the firmware is fairly current, there are some for like Consumer Cellular have 200 minutes for $15/month, add 200 SMS messages a month for $5 and for $20 a month you have a minimal working phone.