Hi everyone,
Like most people I've been trying to find that optimum balance between performance and battery life in my Aria. I'm running CM7.0.3 and the latest version of drowningchild's kernel. With that kernel I switched setCPU from ondemand to smartass, and I can already see the CPU spending most of it's time in either 400 or 480 MHz, but when playing a graphic intensive game it'll go up to 806 MHz and run great.
But, here's the problem. With things like less graphic intensive games, or playing videos, smartass doesn't want to scale up to a useful clock speed, and things get choppy. I switch back to ondemand and everything smoothes out again. I don't want to keep it in ondemand all the time though, because then it's spending half the time in 806 MHz and eating up battery unnecessarily.
So, is there a better governor option for me? Or maybe a way to "whitelist" apps within setCPU, to designate apps that always get the max clock speed?
tl;dr: smartass isn't that smart in certain situations. Is there a better way?
Check out the app "Tasker" in the market. It will allow you to reconfig the governors automatically based on a slew of complex conditions.
If you want smartass roll back to 7-5 of my kernel and it should be fixed as I tweaked it to jump around less in newer versions
I'm still messing around with the new kernel released & will add smartass very soon & hopefully optimized
drowningchild said:
If you want smartass roll back to 7-5 of my kernel and it should be fixed as I tweaked it to jump around less in newer versions
I'm still messing around with the new kernel released & will add smartass very soon & hopefully optimized
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Hey yea you're right, I didn't notice you had a new kernel out. I'm running 7-5 still but I'll upgrade once smartass is working in the new version.
I've been using "conservative" setting. Although when it initial opens a resource intensive app, its stutters a little, and then compensates by clocking up. I haven't had an issue where a game didnt want to run smooth (also at 806mhz).
I run on demand at 320/768. This to me seems to be a very good combo. The 320 min makes a noticeable difference in responsiveness without much sacrifice to battery. I've found the Max cpu setting doesn't make too much of a difference in most situations.
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I've been running some really basic tests on the new Roms and kernels that are starting to pop up and I want to know if any of you agree with me on this. While using Cherryblur v1.4d and the stock ATT kernel I can get around 3500 on Quadrant Standard (I know its not the best benchmarking tool out there). Thats on a fresh reboot 2nd run. Then I flashed Faux123 OC, pushed the clock speed to max 1.1 and min 1.1, set on boot, ran the same test. Fresh reboot, 2nd run and got the exact same score...weird. So if this is the case whats the point of the OC? Has anyone else seen similar results? Or is there perhaps something I'm missing?
Hi,
You are only overclocking by 10%, even if it was 50%, Quadrant is not a cpu benchmark, what will impact it most is the 3D bits and the database tests. Data2Ext on the htc legend will almost double the scores with a fast external sd card used for data.
For these kernels you should be asking yourself, where did the source come from and is it a later version than what is compiled stock, and was it even designed for the Atrix?
Cheers!
Ya...quadrant isn't really designed for CPU but I'm pretty sure it takes it into some type of performance boost. Like on my Nexus the same .1 overclock boosts the Q score a good bit.
Yeah, quadrant scores are sketchy at best.
My cm7 nook color OC'd to 1300 scored 3100+
I finally quit over-thinking the sucky battery drain on the new Miui. Originally, I thought using the Bali Kernel would solve this (it did in the older versions) but on the new version 9.23 Miui, the Bali 2.21 would not flash.
Well, went back to my old way of thinking and doing, and just changed the voltage settings on the current kernel
The result was dramatic, went from 10 hours (100% to 5%) on my phone to 15 hrs (100% to 35%) This makes it good enough for me to work all day use my phone ( Phone, camera, text, video, etc) without having to do an interim recharge.
For those who need more on how to, here is a link along with the app you can use:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829731
There is another link inside this posting that explains voltage settings you should read it will help you get the gist of UV settings
I set to 1.2 = -75mv, 1.0 = -50mv 800 = -50mv and 400 =-25mv
This worked well for me but you need to check to make sure it is stable.
Go to the Apps store and D/L "stability test" app. Very useful.
If you want a different app for voltage settings take a look at setVsel app it will also work well.
Either way, an easy fix with a very acceptable outcome.
Hope this helps some of you...
you may want to do some stability testing, because if you're not on Glitch ML or LL, -75uv on 1.2 tends to be unstable, at least in my experience. You have more leeway on the low end than the high. For instance, -50uv at 1ghz and above is typical for most users, but for 800 and below you can easily go to -100uv, or even -150uv or -200uv for 200mhz and 100mhz.
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you may want to do some stability testing, because if you're not on Glitch ML or LL, -75uv on 1.2 tends to be unstable, at least in my experience. You have more leeway on the low end than the high. For instance, -50uv at 1ghz and above is typical for most users, but for 800 and below you can easily go to -100uv, or even -150uv or -200uv for 200mhz and 100mhz.
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Not Raining at all Like I said I used what worked for me, phones are all different and in my case my phone is a business tool so my approach has to more conservative and this works perfectly as configured for this phone.
I agree it does not resolve some of the bigger issues that Stockish Kernels possess, but under-volting did resolve the extreme battery drain I was experiencing.
I would prefer using Bali kernel by DrHonk but the new 9.23 Miui build had a few things added to it which will require a change of code and a re-syncing of the revised Bali kernel. DrHonk is aware and is working on this already. Until then, this fix will suffice until there is a update kernel release
BTW, thank you for the lower setting recommendations, I ll play around with that on the weekend.
Just updated the settings in my signature after a bit more testing with the Glitch Medium Leak (ML) Kernel. Was a little surprised that the settings were stable, but after 12hrs, they are rock solid, and battery life is noticeably better.
Did the same thing for my Samsung Fascinate (wifi only, as a poor-man's iPad) and while I couldn't get the settings above 1000mhz stable, the 1000mhz and under settings I used on my Vibrant were stable on the Fascinate as well.
Did you keep the other UV settings for example like 1.3 = -0mv or did you disable them (in SetCPU this is done by unchecking them)?
ANTUTU BENCHMARKING :- The "OPEN" Discussion (11/12/12) 10125 BEST SCORE SO FAR
First things First
I HAVE THE EXTENDED BATTERY
Secondly
TO ME
Benchmarks DO gauge the ACTUAL Performance of MY phone (when pushed)
right your still reading
HELLO
BENCHMARKING
I've had my phone since day one of the uk release, and have flashed many many many roms, and kernels, and hboot's , experimenting with different oc programs, governors, frequencies and voltages, and ui in comparison to smoothness is greatly improved the higher the antutu score
REGARDLESS OF BATTERYLIFE.
that said.
the best concoction I cooked up, with the best ingredients from many experienced chefs (so far) is
Rom:- HTC Stock ICS LATEST
Kernel:-Yoda 10.1
Tweaks:- Pedja kernel tweak app v3.3.3/ Chainfire 3D/ Pimp My Rom
oc'd @ max and min 1.836 ghz
Uv @ 1312 mv
performance CPU Governor
I/0 Scheduler SIO @ 2048kb sd cache
No vsync
my score was]
10125
Please leave detailed Descriptions of
ROM
KERNEL
PATCHES
CPU GOVERNOR
I/O SCHEDULER
SD CLASS/SIZE
OV/UV CHANGES
THANKS IN ADVANCE
mOAr voltz
argument invalid, benchmark numbers does not equal performance. research how to trick benchmarking apps.
gav-collins1983 said:
first things first, I HAVE THE EXTENDED BATTERY. secondly, TO ME, benchmarks DO gauge the performance of MY phone, ......
right your still reading, hello,
benchmarking, I've had my phone since day one of the uk release, and have flashed many many many roms, and kernels, experimenting with different oc programs, governors, frequencies and voltages, and ui in comparison to smoothness is greatly improved the higher the antutu score, regardless of battery life.
that said.
the best concoction I cooked up, with the best ingredients from many experienced chefs (so far) is
leedroids rom v 5.3.0
leedroids kernel v4.1.0
system tuner pro 1.863 Max 192 min (added 0.25mv to 1.863 frequencie because it seemed to struggle)
and leedroids ondemand forced dual core patch
my score was 7004
rant over , lol
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Jesus Christ is this what this site has came to?
bloodrain954 said:
argument invalid, benchmark numbers does not equal performance. research how to trick benchmarking apps.
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it's not an argument, I clearly state, that this is to "ME" on "MY" phone,
also, I'm not trying to trick my benchmarking app, what I've seen over 28 weeks is a clear indication, to "ME" on "MY" phone , that ui is smoother and faster on higher benchmark scores, simple as that
Well duh, having an overclocked CPU results in higher benchmarks because the phone can complete things faster. This translates to a smoother UI.
The problem is that benchmarks are affected by so many things that might not reflect accurately the performance of the phone. And comparing different phones is useless because of skins and different hardware performing better in tests but worse in real life.
Faster CPU = higher benchmarks and smoother UI. That doesn't mean that higher benchmarks = smoother UI.
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SoraX64 said:
Well duh, having an overclocked CPU results in higher benchmarks because the phone can complete things faster. This translates to a smoother UI.
The problem is that benchmarks are affected by so many things that might not reflect accurately the performance of the phone. And comparing different phones is useless because of skins and different hardware performing better in tests but worse in real life.
Faster CPU = higher benchmarks and smoother UI. That doesn't mean that higher benchmarks = smoother UI.
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it does to me from what I've seen, I've made that white clear,
what's with all the hating on evo 3d , we never had this in the desire hd forums.
gav-collins1983 said:
it does to me from what I've seen, I've made that white clear,
what's with all the hating on evo 3d , we never had this in the desire hd forums.
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Lololol your not in Kansas anymore
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one time, at band camp...
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SoraX64 said:
Well duh, having an overclocked CPU results in higher benchmarks because the phone can complete things faster. This translates to a smoother UI.
The problem is that benchmarks are affected by so many things that might not reflect accurately the performance of the phone. And comparing different phones is useless because of skins and different hardware performing better in tests but worse in real life.
Faster CPU = higher benchmarks and smoother UI. That doesn't mean that higher benchmarks = smoother UI.
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No, not, duhhhhh, overclocking also causes instability in some cases, more so if incorrect/not optimized voltages per frequency and governor in kernel, and smooth ness is affected
gav-collins1983 said:
first things first, I HAVE THE EXTENDED BATTERY. secondly, TO ME, benchmarks DO gauge the performance of MY phone, ......
right your still reading, hello,
benchmarking, I've had my phone since day one of the uk release, and have flashed many many many roms, and kernels, experimenting with different oc programs, governors, frequencies and voltages, and ui in comparison to smoothness is greatly improved the higher the antutu score, regardless of battery life.
that said.
the best concoction I cooked up, with the best ingredients from many experienced chefs (so far) is
leedroids rom v 5.3.0
leedroids kernel v4.1.0
system tuner pro 1.863 Max 192 min (added 0.25mv to 1.863 frequencie because it seemed to struggle)
and leedroids ondemand forced dual core patch
my score was 7004
rant over , lol
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People will hate me for this, and I waited a long time to post this on this thread, but I just have to do it.
Cool Story Bro.
tgruendler said:
People will hate me for this, and I waited a long time to post this on this thread, but I just have to do it.
Cool Story Bro.
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:thumbup:
From the Beast : Galaxy Note
gav-collins1983 said:
first things first, I HAVE THE EXTENDED BATTERY. secondly, TO ME, benchmarks DO gauge the performance of MY phone, ......
right your still reading, hello,
benchmarking, I've had my phone since day one of the uk release, and have flashed many many many roms, and kernels, experimenting with different oc programs, governors, frequencies and voltages, and ui in comparison to smoothness is greatly improved the higher the antutu score, regardless of battery life.
that said.
the best concoction I cooked up, with the best ingredients from many experienced chefs (so far) is
leedroids rom v 5.3.0
leedroids kernel v4.1.0
system tuner pro 1.863 Max 192 min (added 0.25mv to 1.863 frequencie because it seemed to struggle)
and leedroids ondemand forced dual core patch
my score was 7004
rant over , lol
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7000 score in Antutu @ 1.86 GHz? That seems low... I right around the same score at 1.65GHz
gav-collins1983 said:
first things first, I HAVE THE EXTENDED BATTERY. secondly, TO ME, benchmarks DO gauge the performance of MY phone, ......
right your still reading, hello,
benchmarking, I've had my phone since day one of the uk release, and have flashed many many many roms, and kernels, experimenting with different oc programs, governors, frequencies and voltages, and ui in comparison to smoothness is greatly improved the higher the antutu score, regardless of battery life.
that said.
the best concoction I cooked up, with the best ingredients from many experienced chefs (so far) is
leedroids rom v 5.3.0
leedroids kernel v4.1.0
system tuner pro 1.863 Max 192 min (added 0.25mv to 1.863 frequencie because it seemed to struggle)
and leedroids ondemand forced dual core patch
my score was 7004
rant over , lol
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*Sips his Earl Grey* You like high numbers? You clearly did not like high numbers when you tipped me for my "bedroom" services!
gav-collins1983 said:
No, not, duhhhhh, overclocking also causes instability in some cases, more so if incorrect/not optimized voltages per frequency and governor in kernel, and smooth ness is affected
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Anybody who knows anything about overclocking knows to make sure it's stable..
Seriously, if you think your high quadrants means your phone outperforms the leaked scores of a quad core Tegra 3 phone by almost double, then you're in denial.
Let me put this in words you can understand.
Faster clock speed = faster graphics and calculations.
Faster clock speed = higher benches.
Higher benches != better performance. They're just linked.
Sure, if you're pulling over 4000 in quadrant, your device is performing quite well. But that doesn't make your Evo 3D a super phone twice as good as the rest of ours.
There are so many factors involved that simply saying "my quads are high, and that indicates performance" is ignorant and naive. Once you can explain to me how your phone "performs" better than a quad core device, then maybe I'll spare your thoughts my time.
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I can't wait to see where this thread goes from here. Also, my phone is completely usable, fast, smooth, and has amazing battery life and I just scored an 1100 on Antutu. Benchmarks are worthless except to raise your eEsteem. See my thread about GeekBench from a few nights ago for proof.
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Yes, as I stated in the other thread, quadrant is simply the equivalent of measuring mobile phone penis size and nothing more.
From the Beast : Galaxy Note
7000? Pics or get out.
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my score was OVER 9000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What! Over 9000! THERE'S NO WAY THAT CAN BE RIGHT!
I have sammy kernel installed, i tried all the included governors and schedulers, all of them OC'd at 1.9Ghz and i still don't get better Vellamo or GL benchmark results. Stock unrooted, i was able to get 2350 in vellamo, now OC'd to 1.9 i barely get 2100.
Has anybody else not seen any improvement while OCing and actually felt a decrease in performance??
not all CPUs are the same, yours might not be able to handle 1.9 try bumping it down a little. There are also a lot of variables in these crap if you ask me benchmark apps, just because you OC doesn't mean the scores will always go up. Just use it and see if it feels smoother to you or if it's sluggish
Well i'm able to go down to 1ghz and still get a very smooth experience...even the vellamo score was around 1800 for a 1/3 of the cpu
I'm really satisfied with the S4 Snapdragon, it barely heats up
Benchmarks mean nothing. My old atrix had better benchmarks than the gs3 (both stock) and that phone is half as fast as this one. Go by feel and day to day use. Not buy some random numbers that appear on your screen.
If it make you feel better I officially give your phone a bench mark of 999999!
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