OTA update ? - Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys, I'm kind of new to the rooting scene yet and I heard Verizon pushed an update out that fixes a lot of things with the tb. If I apply this update from the settings menu will it unrooot and turn s-on back on? I have not updated my device since I got it, about 2 months ago. I am running bamf Rom , at least I think that's the name of it . version 1.6 .3 something like that. so, what do I have to do to get my radio updated and everything else updated without losing my root or s off ? I see a bunch of topics that have to do with RUU BUT I don't understand what that means
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I don't think you will be able to if your running bamf. You need to flash the new radio in the bootloader, then any Rom based off the new ruu to apply the fixes and keep s-off. Check to op of your rom
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duddy11 said:
I am running bamf Rom , at least I think that's the name of it . version 1.6 .3 something like that. so, what do I have to do to get my radio updated and everything else updated without losing my root or s off ?
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Read the first post in the BAMF thread. If you are running v1.6.3 and you installed it correctly, you already have the update, it's based on the leaked copy of the Verizon update that's out now.

Jacquestrapp said:
Read the first post in the BAMF thread. If you are running v1.6.3 and you installed it correctly, you already have the update, it's based on the leaked copy of the Verizon update that's out now.
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This is exactly correct... AND NEVER ACCEPT AN OTA WHILE ROOTED! IT COULD CAUSE THERMO-NUCLEAR WAR...LOL. No really though, people who are trying to install the ota even with the stock ROM are getting stuck in a boot loop.
Just to reiterate op, if you are rooted you have no reason to install any ota ever! The developers incorporate it into their roms long before an ota starts. And...as long as you are rooted with s-off never install an ota! You quite frankly never know what will happen...
Hope this helps...
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im pretty sure das bamf 1.6.3 already has the latest ota update included. its based of the 1.13.605.7 ruu, which is the one included in the ota. so if your on that rom theres no need to apply the update, you already have it. i personally never accept ota's since most of the time you can find a rom that will include it way before the actual ota is released. and usually with way better features included

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Issues upgrading when the OTA 2.1 gets released

My Eris has the 3rd 2.1 leak (Build 2.26.605.4) which seems to be working great so far,(Phone is not rooted) and whenever the official OTA ROM gets released and posted on this site, I should have no issues upgrading?
Thank you!
-Tony
theres a 3rd leak?
Official ROM
Yes there is
link ?
you SHOULDNT have a problem though, might have to do the full install with your comp though. :X
Leaked rom
anom69 said:
there's a 3rd leak?
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Yes there is...
anom69 said:
link ?
you SHOULDNT have a problem though, might have to do the full install with your comp though. :X
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Got you...thanks!
Please put non development questions in the appropriate forums, and please use the search function.
agree with what jcase says, but i feel like being in a giving mood right now.
no one knows for sure when you can upgrade from any of the leak builds to the official build, but it is concluded with almost full certainty that yes, you can upgrade to the official version from a leak version. also, you dont have to get the official version from here, even tho it will most likely be on here. if it is sent via OTA then you should be able to get the upgrade through there.
leak versions go as follows:
1. 2.1 leak v1
2. 2.1 leak v2
3. 2.1 leak root
Official ROM
Jcase,
Sorry about that.......and thank you ECLIPS3!
can someone send me the Lu.k to the third one. also I don't know how to load up my cache when I do the new leaks. help
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yeah I need that 3rd leak as well.
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So if I have this: 3. 2.1 leak root I am rooted? How would I check?
Just to clarify, the 2.26.605.4 is the SECOND 2.1 leak, not the third. As far as I know there has not been a 3rd leak yet.
@TDianna: If you have 2.1 leak you do not have root unless you went from 1.5 stock to a 2.1 rooted rom.
Just to clarify, the 2.26.605.4 is the SECOND 2.1 leak, not the third. As far as I know there has not been a 3rd leak yet.
@TDianna: If you have 2.1 leak you do not have root unless you went from 1.5 stock to a 2.1 rooted ROM.
ECLIPS3
agree with what jcase says, but i feel like being in a giving mood right now.
no one knows for sure when you can upgrade from any of the leak builds to the official build, but it is concluded with almost full certainty that yes, you can upgrade to the official version from a leak version. also, you don't have to get the official version from here, even tho it will most likely be on here. if it is sent via OTA then you should be able to get the upgrade through there.
leak versions go as follows:
1. 2.1 leak v1
2. 2.1 leak v2
3. 2.1 leak root
Ok, what version is the 3rd leak?
2.1 Leak
ECLIPS3 said:
agree with what jcase says, but i feel like being in a giving mood right now.
no one knows for sure when you can upgrade from any of the leak builds to the official build, but it is concluded with almost full certainty that yes, you can upgrade to the official version from a leak version. also, you don't have to get the official version from here, even tho it will most likely be on here. if it is sent via OTA then you should be able to get the upgrade through there.
leak versions go as follows:
1. 2.1 leak v1
2. 2.1 leak v2
3. 2.1 leak root
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What number is the 3rd leak and If I install it and root it will I still have access to the OTA update?
GRDLCK has a all-in-one rooting program. I wonder if this will work....sorry, I am just a little concerned about bricking my phone.
Never mind...it helps when you read the post....this all in one program is for 1.5/6 users.
2.1 Leak
Here is a pic of what I have installed.
no your not rooted.
2.1 Leak
Thanks,
I have read in a post that the rooted 2.1 has many issues. I am just going to stay put on what I have right now and wait............for the OTA of 2.1.
Thank all of you for answering all my questions!
-Tony
Thats what i have and im rooted theres a way you can go into the sdk at the cmd and it will tell you if you phone is rooted btw i am using the 2.1 v2 rooted rom the only diff. is the radio.
Just for my own clarification, the 3rd "2.1 root" is a special cooked ROM that is used to get root users the latest 2.1 software.
It CANNOT be used to by those of us who flashed the 2.1 leaks, that are NOT already rooted, right?

•Question•

I had a thought that came to my mind.
I understand that the big issue with the rollback is the bootloader or w/e
I'm so tired of my v1 of the 2.1 leak.
Is it possible to use an image of the OTA 2.1 since I'm assuming the bootloader from the OTA and the leak is the same....
Any ideas?
Re: •Question•
You would think so but issue with bootloader is they are the same version with s- on. With that the device assumes the its is same version as leak and you get an error when trying to flash. Say in version you are trying to load is older than the one you have. If that weren't true then rooting would be possible on the leak. Sorry.
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I'd think you should be able to flash the OTA update. Since you're on leak v1, you stand to get quite a few improvements and bug fixes, at the very least. It won't help you root unfortunately, but it would still be an upgrade for you, if you don't mind a brand new flash.
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Yeah you would think but ota has lower version of bootloader. The leak has 1.49 and ota has 1.46 or 1.47. And device assumes ota is older version of Android. The only version you can flash once on leak is desire ruu which is a new release. There is I post for it in the Android development forum.
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What about leak v3? It's basically the same as the OTA and you should be able to update to that.
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Download ROM HERE
It seems to be a Verizon Droid Eris 2.1 Official ROM.
RUU_Desire_C_Verizon_WWE_2.36.605.1_release_signed_with_driver.exe
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Yes you can use leak version 2 or 3. Or the release which they are installing on all phones as they produced them in Feb. Before Eris got discontinued.
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Alright so if I'm reading all this correctly I should be able to flash into a newer leak...
Does anyone have any idea how I'm supposed to do this?
Do I flash to Leak V3 or to the desire ruu rom?
Thanks for all the great answers by the way.
From the looks of things I'm not as stuck as I thought I was.
comptontravis said:
Alright so if I'm reading all this correctly I should be able to flash into a newer leak...
Does anyone have any idea how I'm supposed to do this?
Do I flash to Leak V3 or to the desire ruu rom?
Thanks for all the great answers by the way.
From the looks of things I'm not as stuck as I thought I was.
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If i were you i would flash with the RUU rom.
Granted they're both the same OS, its the official one from Verizon.
Better safe than sorry
Nikolai2.1 said:
If i were you i would flash with the RUU rom.
Granted they're both the same OS, its the official one from Verizon.
Better safe than sorry
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Sounds good, Thanks again everyone!
I'll go ahead and flash and let everyone know how it goes.
Nikolai2.1 said:
If i were you i would flash with the RUU rom.
Granted they're both the same OS, its the official one from Verizon.
Better safe than sorry
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Yep thats what I did. I put the RUU over Leak v3 and at the least I am "offical" now since I couldnt do anything anyway (root, etc). Simple process with the RUU.
Can someone point me in the right direction as to how I use the Ruu?
Do I install it on my computer first or just put it directly onto my SD card like with the v1 rom?
comptontravis said:
Can someone point me in the right direction as to how I use the Ruu?
Do I install it on my computer first or just put it directly onto my SD card like with the v1 rom?
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Nevermind I figured it out : D
mortymouse said:
Yep thats what I did. I put the RUU over Leak v3 and at the least I am "offical" now since I couldnt do anything anyway (root, etc). Simple process with the RUU.
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Yeah same here. You might has well seeing as like you said we cant do anything with root yet. I havent noticed any changes since i did that but hey why not?
Well the RUU Rom loaded nicely.
Finally no more 2.1 v1 leak!!!
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Good to hear, let's just hope we won't be on it long and jcase can crack this thing.
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N/M (whoops - didn't see you got it done above. good deal.)

Is it possible to take a OTA update while rooted?

Is it possible to take a OTA update while rooted? I am still on the stock Rom. And if so, will it unroot me?
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Nope I believe that is one of the benefits of s-off
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Nope I believe that is one of the benefits of s-off
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Wrong!
You can take the update, it will unroot you, AND if the new update includes a new HBOOT it will flash over and give you a security warning and/or S-ON.
your best bet is to wait a few hours and someone will make a rooted version of the new ota... but chances are we will have the ota update weeks before it is ever pushed to any non rooted phones... at the moment .6 is stock.. and all the roms are .9 so all I"m waiting on is a new radio update to hopefully fix this wacky 3g signal I get
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Wrong!
You can take the update, it will unroot you, AND if the new update includes a new HBOOT it will flash over and give you a security warning and/or S-ON.
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What he Said but I Think you have to be Rooted Running stock kernel/Rom for it to even take the OTA
HorsexD said:
What he Said but I Think you have to be Rooted Running stock kernel/Rom for it to even take the OTA
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If it detects you are a lower version then the OTA it will still attempt to upgrade.
Ok. From what I understand, the OTA won't automatically install if I am rooted. Which is good. But if I wanted to I could force the OTA to install?
But from what some people in this thread say, it's not worth it, and I could just get a unrooted version of the OTA from here at some point?
Is that all correct?
I am only interested because I heard there was a big OTA coming on the 16th, and I expect that it will fix a bunch of random stuff on the TB. So I'd like to get it.
I'm pretty sure you need to have stock recovery installed to install the OTA. If using CWM it will not install.
Wow this is interesting...i flashed a new radio yesterday is this the new ota update.
jcase said he thinks the leaked ruu is supposed to be the first OTA.

Will the OTA Update be unrootable?

I haven't found a straight answer yet, so I am posting here. I am currently stock but I would like to root some time in the near future. I would also like to try the update before rooting. However, I am concerned that if I apply the update that the root method in the development forums may no longer be valid. Is it possible that Verizon could lock down the phone with this OTA update such that I will not be able to root after it is applied?
Thanks,
Josh
The ota is the exact same as what was leak about 2 weeks ago. JCase compared both and made that determination. I believe he also made a root unsigned copy for down load. Most devs have already incorporated this update into their roms. The only thing is the new radio will need flashed. Check out the development section and look for the roms posted by jcase. It is best not to run the ota/leaked on the older radio as they compliment each other. Any other questiins pm.
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I thought this update included the new radios?
U would have to flash the entire ruu, and that will give u everything. Most rooted flash the rom through recovery the flash radio through hboot. Jcase has a nice op in the development section.
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So if I update my stock phone via the ota update, I can still root afterwards if I decide no problem?
It appears that yes you should be able to root the ota via JCase's root tutorial.
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If u decide to flash a custom rom, the update is in most of them, u would just have to flash the radio separate.
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Hey Guys,
I rooted my Thunderbolt but I really don't like it anymore. I'm really new to this and just want to go back to the factory settings. I can't get the OTA update doing it manually and its pissing me off.... can anyone help me?
reilly44 said:
Hey Guys,
I rooted my Thunderbolt but I really don't like it anymore. I'm really new to this and just want to go back to the factory settings. I can't get the OTA update doing it manually and its pissing me off.... can anyone help me?
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If you're rooted, you could have gotten the OTA update weeks ago. But if you are determined to return to stock for whatever reason, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1009423.
A lot of roms already have the OTA's long before they are released, i use those and dont even bother with OTA's anymore. I would really consider staying with root. theres so much more you can do i dont see why anyone wouldnt want it. but if you are determined to then the link mentioned above works fine.
What radio should I flash via hboot on Das BAMF v1.6.3? There are 4 combos to choose from.
Which radio combo is included in the OTA that just went out a few days ago? Is that the one I should choose for Das BAMF v1.6.3?

MR2 radio

So just saw the post on the leak of the new mr2 software and radio. Has anyone had problems with it yet? I want to upgrade the radio and then go to an mr2 room ( i think thunderrom was the only one i could find that had ingegrated it) but i want to make sure it's all good to go first. Also would be nice if someone could post the radio link cuz I already lost it lol. Oh and would it be better to wait for gingerbread release since its supposed to be out by q2 and Im gonna do that anyway or should i do this since it's probably gonna be delayed?
Android Police MR2 leak
I've been running MR2 stock RUU since the leak and have had no issues.
The market app was an older version, but that was it really, no reboots yet!
Yea i flashed this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1115714 when it leaked and flashed almost every gingerbread/sense rom available without any problems so far
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Wait Im more confused now... I thought this was a radio that worked for froyo not gingerbread. Is this just a more improved version if the previous gingerbread radio leak?
Alright after reading up some more it appears that this is the latest radio that will work for either gingerbread or froyo is that correct? Because the perfect storm and gingerbamf both use the mr2 radio but there on two different software versions. and unless Im wrong the perfect storm is still froyo
it will work on all gingerbread based roms, but only SOME froyo. I think PlainJane works (double check just in case). I just jumped straight to GB to get this radio
dak_181 said:
Wait Im more confused now... I thought this was a radio that worked for froyo not gingerbread. Is this just a more improved version if the previous gingerbread radio leak?
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It works on both but only on newer froyo releases released in the past few days or so. There is a thread on the full ruu that explains this. Sorry I'm not at a computer or I'd post a link. I think it was posted by chingy or jcase...
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dak_181 said:
Wait Im more confused now... I thought this was a radio that worked for froyo not gingerbread. Is this just a more improved version if the previous gingerbread radio leak?
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easy answer this radio works with both. however it will not work with the froyo our phones came with or with the recent fail OTA update. It works with the newly leaked OTA update (MR2) which is still froyo but with an updated base. It also works with ALL the Gingerbread ROM's based off the gingerleak.
I've been running since perfect storm 1.5 was released and it runs flawless. for fun i have flashed some of the gingerbread rom's and it works fine except for the usual gingerbread bugs that are still being worked on.
hope this helps
Thanks for the fast replies everyone that helped a ton! One last question should I update my radio or install the new Rom first? I've seen it both ways and also with a flash, battery pull, and then straight to hboot but which is best?
dak_181 said:
Thanks for the fast replies everyone that helped a ton! One last question should I update my radio or install the new Rom first? I've seen it both ways and also with a flash, battery pull, and then straight to hboot but which is best?
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doesn't matter...i find it easier to boot into recovery and flash rom...pull battery and boot in bootloader to flash radio and good to go...
it's just easier that way cuz if you flash radio first you gotta delete PG05IMG to get into recovery (which means pulling sd card and putting into adapter for computer)...or you have to fully boot into your old rom which will no longer work and then boot into recovery from there.
good luck
How can I tell if I successfully installed the new MR2 ruu.
My TB is rooted
Here's what I did: I restored my Stock Rom. I replaced the other(MR1) file with the one that I downloaded from the leak post. I turned off the phone. Held vol - and power. That got me to HBoot, then it asked if I wanted to update. Clicked yes and it did it's thing. Rebooted, wiped data, cache, dalvik. Installed The perfect Storm v1.5. It didn't brick so I think it didn't take.
How can I tell if the phone is running the new radio?
Jetfire_R$ said:
How can I tell if I successfully installed the new MR2 ruu.
My TB is rooted
Here's what I did: I restored my Stock Rom. I replaced the other(MR1) file with the one that I downloaded from the leak post. I turned off the phone. Held vol - and power. That got me to HBoot, then it asked if I wanted to update. Clicked yes and it did it's thing. Rebooted, wiped data, cache, dalvik. Installed The perfect Storm v1.5. It didn't brick so I think it didn't take.
How can I tell if the phone is running the new radio?
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Baseband will be 1.39blahblah
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This is what my Software says, look about right?
newest radio, newest froyo software. your good to go
Sweet. Do you think I should be worried about random brick?
only a problem with a pre release radio for gingerbread roms. dont fool around with anything you dont know about and youll be fine. i would recommend doing a clockwork backup though
Been running it since it leaked, no issues on two different GB ROMs.
Jetfire_R$ said:
Sweet. Do you think I should be worried about random brick?
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The devs think the bricking issue is related to Hardware, not the software or radios. Read up on it. There are some things you can do to mitigate the risk, but the possibility is still there. You are running Froyo I think (PS 1.5?). MR2 will run that til you are ready to move to GB.
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been running it since it came out no issues the best leak yet

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